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SourYoghurt:
it's not working, we bought it by 5pm issh and with the AC, it didn't work when we replaced, when he bypass by that 5pm issh no indicator of panel connection it just look like I put off the charging switch. The sad thing about it is that I have the AC breaker and protector but didn't install it since I wasn't using Grid to charge the system. Now I have 2 at home.

Is there a way to charge using external charger and bypass the in-built charging in the inverter?

bassdow:
First of all, don't blame yourSelf for having "AC breaker" and not using it as you don't need it when not using Grid (NEPA / PHCN / Generator).

As for now, so long the hybrid inverter still recognises battery, would suggest your technician first tests the solar panels output to ensure it's reading and so long the Solar panel works, you got 2 options: either Fix your hybrid inverter OR get an external charge Controller

SourYoghurt:
thank you but will the wire from the roof be sparking if there is a problem from the roof?
I don't have the opportunity to fix it immediately because that'll mean I'll be without power for days as I am in a village. In addition do you have suggestions for external charger controller? What's the price range?

XPaul:
Hello everyone

I stumbled upon this thread as I am trying to get a solid power backup. But omo, I can't go through all the 2k+ threads.

So currently, I have a Luminous Zelio 12V 1KVA inverter (pic attached) with 2 Luminous Inverlast 220AH Tubular batteries. However, I think the batteries are weak now as they don't last more than 2-3hours on a simple MTN FiberX router.

I want to ask if I can use a 12V LiFePO4 battery with inverter.

If I can pair the inverter with a LiFEPO4 batteery, which battery should choose between wattcycle and HumsiENK. (you may recommend any other option). I am on a tight budget and I am trying to get the best possible value for money.

Thank you

SourYoghurt:
the sky is bright and clear but it's still not charging, or showing signs of charging but supplying power. I used "tester" screwdriver with led to check the two wires coming directly from the roof into the breaker, no sign of current and I am electrophobic I'd have touched the wire. I went outside and saw some of the wire that was used in the connection exposed, I mean on the roof.

The thunder were very very significant that I have a 5w bulb to know if there's grid, thunder kee am.

And the house is earthed and the thunder arrestor is standing like a Vatican church, so na waste of money


cc: Oloet dollarnaira

favouredbymercy:
From that 5w bulb that died, it is obvious the thunder passed through the grid line into your house. I always say that grid is always d weak link of solar systems. I advice you put AC spd on both your input and output of your systems. And when it rains with thunders, REMOVE YOUR CUT OUT FUSE if you are connected to grid. I never fail to do such, cause thunder always passes through our grid lines when it thunders over here.

bassdow:
Actually, so long an inverter is 12v from any brand, it would work with whatEver 12v battery (from any brand) you give to it.
When it comes to how to recharge the batteries, except you intends using Solar panels, you need be sure the inverter supports Lithium based batteries. What that means is, if you intends charging the batteries using the inverter's built-in charger via Generator / NEPA / PHCN, then be sure the inverter's inbuilt-charger supports Lithium based battery (most old ones don't) BUT if you intends using Solar panels, then no issue.

As for being on tight budget, everyOne is, just came back from Enugu where the client used similar phrase YET spent over 3-million naira. na Big man cry pass

XPaul:
Hello everyone

I stumbled upon this thread as I am trying to get a solid power backup. But omo, I can't go through all the 2k+ threads.

So currently, I have a Luminous Zelio 12V 1KVA inverter (pic attached) with 2 Luminous Inverlast 220AH Tubular batteries. However, I think the batteries are weak now as they don't last more than 2-3hours on a simple MTN FiberX router.

I want to ask if I can use a 12V LiFePO4 battery with inverter.

If I can pair the inverter with a LiFEPO4 batteery, which battery should choose between wattcycle and HumsiENK. (you may recommend any other option). I am on a tight budget and I am trying to get the best possible value for money.

Thank you

AyarmBoye:
the inverter is a transformer based inverter which doesn’t support the charging lithium batteries..however as bassdow have said,,you can use solar to charge the lithium battery or get an external lithium charger…but when you connect the inverter to lithium battery don’t connect the inverter to grid cause it will start undercharging the lithium…

Meanwhile using 1kva 12v inverter with 2 200ah batteries doesn’t make sense without external charger…the ikva inverter bearly has 15-17amps charging capacity for the 2 batteries..maybe nah watin cause the luminous batteries to go bad be that..You may have been undercharging them while constantly deep discharging them

oloet:
Remind me , what's the distance between the contacts of your cutout fuse?

AyarmBoye:
the inverter is a transformer based inverter which doesn’t support the charging lithium batteries..however as bassdow have said,,you can use solar to charge the lithium battery or get an external lithium charger…but when you connect the inverter to lithium battery don’t connect the inverter to grid cause it will start undercharging the lithium…

Meanwhile using 1kva 12v inverter with 2 200ah batteries doesn’t make sense without external charger…the ikva inverter bearly has 15-17amps charging capacity for the 2 batteries..maybe nah watin cause the luminous batteries to go bad be that..You may have been undercharging them while constantly deep discharging them

cyif2003:
I feel he shud test each battery on d inverter to find d faulty one. Kus I believe one of d battery is still good.

bassdow:
Actually, so long an inverter is 12v from any brand, it would work with whatEver 12v battery (from any brand) you give to it.
When it comes to how to recharge the batteries, except you intends using Solar panels, you need be sure the inverter supports Lithium based batteries. What that means is, if you intends charging the batteries using the inverter's built-in charger via Generator / NEPA / PHCN, then be sure the inverter's inbuilt-charger supports Lithium based battery (most old ones don't) BUT if you intends using Solar panels, then no issue.

As for being on tight budget, everyOne is, just came back from Enugu where the client used similar phrase YET spent over 3-million naira. na Big man cry pass

XPaul:
Thank you for your response.

How much would an external lithium charger cost?

XPaul:
Thank you for your response.

How much would an external lithium charger cost?

twinskenny:
The kind of roof I love!

Done over the weekend

10kva srne inverter

16kwh of deriy inverter

14 no of 625w jinko

Setup to power this 8 room hotel somewhere in Lekki

08051355133

AyarmBoye:
12v 20a is about 45k 30a about 60k….but do note that if you are on prepaid e Dey chop light o….30ah 12v is about 360watts per hour…Solar is better 2 pieces of 400-500 watts will do well with better Mppt cc….maybe 45a cc should do the trick sha…..initially it will be expensive but on the long run u will save a lot

fuckboys:
Solar people how una Dey enjoy the current weather ?
I haven’t had a full charge on my battery for 2 days now, totally off grid system no nepa or gen charging.

favouredbymercy:
Bros, i kid you not. Since i dey remove am, surge nor dey enter from grid anymore. That was d only solution that works, taking change over to neutral alone doesnt work for it.

XPaul:
The thing is our light is very stable ( I am on band A) so i need a back-up for router and laptop for the few times there won't be light. My work is hybrid. I am not planning to go off-grid.

If 30ah is about 360watts per hour, it means that a 100ah lithium battery will consume about 1.2kwhs of grid light. That costs about NGN 1k on band A (am I right?). I think that is fair if my analysis is correct.

Do you know anyone selling the charger?

fuckboys:
Solar people how una Dey enjoy the current weather ?
I haven’t had a full charge on my battery for 2 days now, totally off grid system no nepa or gen charging.

favouredbymercy:
From that 5w bulb that died, it is obvious the thunder passed through the grid line into your house. I always say that grid is always d weak link of solar systems. I advice you put AC spd on both your input and output of your systems. And when it rains with thunders, REMOVE YOUR CUT OUT FUSE if you are connected to grid. I never fail to do such, cause thunder always passes through our grid lines when it thunders over here.