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Nefort:
That's great!!! And I am also saying that if I use this your reasoning to assess Tinubu's performance he will also be a failure because there were things Tinubu was supposed to do that he failed to do, and the failures were the reasons for all the criticisms he received. Why is this difficult to download into ?

The only difference is that after you use my reasoning to assess Tinubu's performance, he still supercedes Obi exponentially.

My position is not that Tinubu is the best thing after sliced bread. Though I rate him higher than many past governors of Lagos state before him, I see him as a corrupt politician. I may reassess him after his presidency. Though, no evidence for that corruption yet. Nevertheless, it is indisputable that Tinubu is the one responsible for the new face of Lagos as you see it today. How I wish Obi also gave Anambra a new face, or at least a new name. Anambra may not have the same resources as Lagos, but it also doesn't have the same humongous needs as Lagos. No governor should leave money in accounts when the state still has many needs to be met. Has Obi solved all of Anambra's problems before he stashed the monies away?

I don't have any bias for Tinubu, neither do I have for Obi. It's you Nefort that has sold out your thinking cap.

Tinubu actually was doing everything he could to make Lagos more livable. And that's the fact. I didn't see that same deal replicated in Obi.

But, you see, a fowl can't see any difference between black and white even if you show it to him a hundred times. Any human with a fowl-level reasoning wouldn't fare better. He doesn't have that strength of reasoning to spot the difference. Even a blind man knows that Tinubu engaged in massive projects to give Lagos a facelift. What did Obi do exactly in smaller Ananbra? Even you, in all your empty headedness cannot give us anything Obi did except 8,000km road, and yet you see it as a reason for bragging. We're talking about projects here. Not just policies.

The very lack of sound reasoning is the only reason why anyone will praise a governor who left money untouched while the state he's governing still needs a lot for the people to enjoy the dividend of democracy. Even if Ananbra had everything and was as developed as Lagos, why can't the governor take it further and make it like New York instead of keeping the money away. Is he so myopic ? Is that how he'll keep money away as president while doctors go on strike for their salaries, infrastructural gaps remain unclosed, no new schools are built, etc, and the country continues to suffer infrastructural deficits? Did the fraud not condemn the coastal highway as wastage? Such a mentality. The only reason why Obi sees himself as somebody is because many simpletons like nefort are singing his praise. Such mediocrity.

Can you just imagine an illiterate equating the father of modern Lagos with the father of a failed alcohol business who has no project to his name other than 8,000 km road?

Tell us exactly the massive and imposing projects Obi delivered as governor like Tinubu did in Lagos? Very simple question that you've failed to answer.

You would have nothing to say than to rant.People like you don't deserve good leaders. You deserve the mediocre leaders you celebrate.

FxMasterz:
The only difference is that after you use my reasoning to assess Tinubu's performance, he still supercedes Obi exponentially.

Honestly it is not as simple as that and you haven't yet provided any strong compelling argument to prove that Tinubu significantly outperformed Obi. Lagos state and Anambra states are two different states subject to different conditions. I didn't say Tinubu failed but I would debate his actual performance score and it definitely wouldn't reach 60%. Tinubu's performance score should be calculated by the amount of resources he had access to and what he actually did with it. The same formula should also used to assess Peter Obi as well. Lagos state is a wealthier state so I expect Tinubu to do more than Peter Obi who governed a poorer state. It would have been easier to compare their performances if they were both past governors of Lagos state.

No governor should leave money in accounts when the state still has many needs to be met. Has Obi solved all of Anambra's problems before he stashed the monies away?

It was proven that Peter Obi saved a lot of money for Anambra and I agree with you that money should be spent on development and not storage. But I can't really tell why he made the decision to save money rather than spend on more projects. There could possibly be challenges ahead that prompted the decision to save money. Regarding stashing of money away I don't really understand what you mean by that. There was no record proving that he stashed money to his own bank account. It was reported that he saved the money for Anambra

Tinubu actually was doing everything he could to make Lagos more livable. And that's the fact. I didn't see that same deal replicated in Obi.

You can never see it because you are forcing your mind to see Obi as a failure. If Peter Obi failed AI would have pointed it out straightaway after analyzing public data. But AI pointed that he still achieved a number of things in spite of the criticisms you have against him. And when you balance his achievements with his criticisms then you get a decent performance.

Even you, in all your empty headedness cannot give us anything Obi did except 8,000km road, and yet you see it as a reason for bragging. We're talking about projects here. Not just policies.

I previously listed all that Peter Obi was credited for doing and you only singled out 8000km of roads as his only achievement? Have you seen you are the one being dubious?

Is that how he'll keep money away as president while doctors go on strike for their salaries, infrastructural gaps remain unclosed, no new schools are built, etc

I previously mentioned that ruling Anambra is not the same as ruling Nigeria. The heat you get from ruling Nigeria is hotter than the heat you get from ruling Anambra. He knows Nigeria has a lot to be fixed and he dare not keep money away. At least I am sure he wouldn't have embarked on wasteful projects like the coastal highway which Nigeria doesn't urgently need. As a financially prudent person I bet he would have channeled the funds to invest in important areas like power supply industrialization. He has mentioned it several times that he intends to move Nigeria from consumption to production and this is exactly what will have a direct impact in the lives of Nigerians, and not Tinubu's audio "international watchdog" policies that doesn't reflect in the lives of the masses

Tell us exactly the massive and imposing projects Obi delivered as governor like Tinubu did in Lagos? Very simple question that you've failed to answer.

I have repeatedly it several times that there is no way that Anambra can match Lagos in massive projects because they don't have the same purse size. Peter Obi worked with the lesser finances available to him. I previously listed Peter Obi's achievements and you are still ignoring them because you are hell bent on believing that Peter Obi is a failure.

Nefort:
Honestly it is not as simple as that and you haven't yet provided any strong compelling argument to prove that Tinubu significantly outperformed Obi. Lagos state and Anambra states are two different states subject to different conditions. I didn't say Tinubu failed but I would debate his actual performance score and it definitely wouldn't reach 60%. Tinubu's performance score should be calculated by the amount of resources he had access to and what he actually did with it. The same formula should also used to assess Peter Obi as well. Lagos state is a wealthier state so I expect Tinubu to do more than Peter Obi who governed a poorer state. It would have been easier to compare their performances if they were both past governors of Lagos state.


It was proven that Peter Obi saved a lot of money for Anambra and I agree with you that money should be spent on development and not storage. But I can't really tell why he made the decision to save money rather than spend on more projects. There could possibly be challenges ahead that prompted the decision to save money. Regarding stashing of money away I don't really understand what you mean by that. There was no record proving that he stashed money to his own bank account. It was reported that he saved the money for Anambra


You can never see it because you are forcing your mind to see Obi as a failure. If Peter Obi failed AI would have pointed it out straightaway after analyzing public data. But AI pointed that he still achieved a number of things in spite of the criticisms you have against him. And when you balance his achievements with his criticisms then you get a decent performance.


I previously listed all that Peter Obi was credited for doing and you only singled out 8000km of roads as his only achievement? Have you seen you are the one being dubious?


I previously mentioned that ruling Anambra is not the same as ruling Nigeria. The heat you get from ruling Nigeria is hotter than the heat you get from ruling Anambra. He knows Nigeria has a lot to be fixed and he dare not keep money away. At least I am sure he wouldn't have embarked on wasteful projects like the coastal highway which Nigeria doesn't urgently need. As a financially prudent person I bet he would have channeled the funds to invest in important areas like power supply industrialization. He has mentioned it several times that he intends to move Nigeria from consumption to production and this is exactly what will have a direct impact in the lives of Nigerians, and not Tinubu's audio "international watchdog" policies that doesn't reflect in the lives of the masses


I have repeatedly it several times that there is no way that Anambra can match Lagos in massive projects because they don't have the same purse size. Peter Obi worked with the lesser finances available to him. I previously listed Peter Obi's achievements and you are still ignoring them because you are hell bent on believing that Peter Obi is a failure.

You are the one who failed to understand. My position from the onset is this:

1. Both Tinubu and Obi are the same crop of politicians that made Nigeria to be what it is today.

2. Tinubu has his shortcomings but he actually did well in Lagos. He wasn't perfect. He could have done much better than that, but he did exceptionally well. He could do more though. He was very futuristic in his governance.

3. Obi has his strengths but he didn't unleash his full potential on Anambra. If he knew he'll vie for president, he probably would have done much better. The areas in which he failed such as 13 months strike, mass none indigene civil servant retrenchment, lack of solid projects, etc except roads overshadowed any little achievement he had.

3. Obi could achieve more than he did but he decided to keep money in accounts instead of unleashing the monies for the wealth and development of the state. This is why I and many others regard him a failure. He didn't measure up to expectations. Anambra is not as rich as Lagos but Ananbra does not have as much needs as Lagos. 8000km road could mean a lot for Anambra but means little to Lagos. There are several things he could have done for Anambra that would mean a lot for Anambra but mean little for Lagos. No one is expecting a Lagos treatment for Anambra. Any governor just has to do his work, it will be very obvious. It is much more difficult to perform well as Lagos Governor than as Anambra. Lagos is more tasking. Highly demanding. Anyone who does well I. Lagos' governance is a high performer. If you can't do well in Ananbra, you would not be able to do anything at all for Lagos if you were put there. Lagos was rough, dangerous, achaia, etc. Tinubu changed all of that. He tried. Obi needs very little efforts to replicate that in Ananbra but did he?

4. The things Obi was supposed to do that he didn't do, coupled with the very glaring shortcomings of his government (his people complained bitterly during his tenure) produced the current perception many of us have of him.

5. Obi is presenting himself as an exceptional leader when everyone know he didn't lead Anambra exceptionally. To be able to make that presentation in all honesty and acceptability, he should first detach himself from his unexceptional past and recast a new imagery of himself. Honestly, if I meet Obi one on one, and I tell him this, he'll immediately see the wisdom in that advice. This is all he needs to do to get the whole of Nigeria in his pocket. I don't know why you are failing to see this. It will work for any politician.

You should just throw away your biases for any politician. You'll see clearly that I hate mediocrity.

FxMasterz:
You are the one who failed to understand. My position from the onset is this:

1. Both Tinubu and Obi are the same crop of politicians that made Nigeria to be what it is today.

2. Tinubu has his shortcomings but he actually did well in Lagos. He wasn't perfect. He could have done much better than that, but he did exceptionally well. He could do more though. He was very futuristic in his governance.

3. Obi has his strengths but he didn't unleash his full potential on Anambra. If he knew he'll vie for president, he probably would have done much better. The areas in which he failed such as 13 months strike, mass none indigene civil servant retrenchment, lack of solid projects, etc except roads overshadowed any little achievement he had.

3. Obi could achieve more than he did but he decided to keep money in accounts instead of unleashing the monies for the wealth and development of the state. This is why I and many others regard him a failure. He didn't measure up to expectations. Anambra is not as rich as Lagos but Ananbra does not have as much needs as Lagos. 8000km road could mean a lot for Anambra but means little to Lagos. There are several things he could have done for Anambra that would mean a lot for Anambra but mean little for Lagos. No one is expecting a Lagos treatment for Anambra. Any governor just has to do his work, it will be very obvious. It is much more difficult to perform well as Lagos Governor than as Anambra. Lagos is more tasking. Highly demanding. Anyone who does well I. Lagos' governance is a high performer. If you can't do well in Ananbra, you would not be able to do anything at all for Lagos if you were put there. Lagos was rough, dangerous, achaia, etc. Tinubu changed all of that. He tried. Obi needs very little efforts to replicate that in Ananbra but did he?

4. The things Obi was supposed to do that he didn't do, coupled with the very glaring shortcomings of his government (his people complained bitterly during his tenure) produced the current perception many of us have of him.

5. Obi is presenting himself as an exceptional leader when everyone know he didn't lead Anambra exceptionally. To be able to make that presentation in all honesty and acceptability, he should first detach himself from his unexceptional past and recast a new imagery of himself. Honestly, if I meet Obi one on one, and I tell him this, he'll immediately see the wisdom in that advice. This is all he needs to do to get the whole of Nigeria in his pocket. I don't know why you are failing to see this. It will work for any politician.

You should just throw away your biases for any politician. You'll see clearly that I hate mediocrity.

If you believe Peter Obi failed then that's your own opinion. But my opinion is that he didn't fail. His performance was just okay. The reason why his supporters are giving him is a chance is not really because of his performance as governor. We intend to give him a chance because he has shown seriousness to do better.

Nefort:
If you believe Peter Obi failed then that's your own opinion. But my opinion is that he didn't fail. His performance was just okay. The reason why his supporters are giving him is a chance is not really because of his performance as governor. We intend to give him a chance because he has shown seriousness to do better.

If you have low expectations of him and believe that his slow paced leadership style can bring quick turn around to a nation, you're good to go. I have higher standards for evaluating leaders. Nigeria is lagging much behind its actual status. It needs aggressive turnarounds.

A leader that can aggressively lead the country, step on toes, spread his tentacles everywhere, implement multiple gigantic projects and drive the country forward without minding public opinion or minding whose horse was gorged is my man.

FxMasterz:
If you have low expectations of him and believe that his slow paced leadership style can bring quick turn around to a nation, you're good to go.

He left office as governor 12 years ago. 12 years is a long time to develop new beliefs, life realignment and objectives. So I wouldn't really say the Peter Obi who "failed" as governor is exactly the same person which will guarantee the same leadership style as president.

I have higher standards for evaluating leaders. Nigeria is lagging much behind its actual status. It needs aggressive turnarounds.

If you have higher standards for evaluating leaders you wouldn't be supporting Tinubu. You have to be talking about a premium economist to lead Nigeria. Someone like Akinwumi Adesina. That's the kind of person you will bring and I will forget about Peter Obi. The reason I currently support Peter Obi is just because I feel he is the better candidate among the top candidates that can win a general election. That doesn't mean he is the best Nigeria can provide.

A leader that can aggressively lead the country, step on toes, spread his tentacles everywhere, implement multiple gigantic projects and drive the country forward without minding public opinion or minding whose horse was gorged is my man.

Peter Obi can still possibly do all you mentioned. Using past records of his leadership of Anambra doesn't guarantee what his leadership approach will be as president after leaving office as governor since 2014. We have already seen what Tinubu can do and it is now worth trying someone different because we have never had any candidate who has presented his case like Peter Obi to rule Nigeria. Don't be too comfortable with Tinubu. Even if we elect Peter Obi the worst that will happen is that things will remain the same as Tinubu's tenure without much improvement. Buhari was clueless but the country still survived destruction. Peter Obi has a far better idea than Buhari so it wouldn't be under his watch that the country will be destroyed.

Nefort:
He left office as governor 12 years ago. 12 years is a long time to develop new beliefs, life realignment and objectives. So I wouldn't really say the Peter Obi who "failed" as governor is exactly the same person which will guarantee the same leadership style as president.


If you have higher standards for evaluating leaders you wouldn't be supporting Tinubu. You have to be talking about a premium economist to lead Nigeria. Someone like Akinwumi Adesina. That's the kind of person you will bring and I will forget about Peter Obi. The reason I currently support Peter Obi is just because I feel he is the better candidate among the top candidates that can win a general election. That doesn't mean he is the best Nigeria can provide.


Peter Obi can still possibly do all you mentioned. Using past records of his leadership of Anambra doesn't guarantee what his leadership approach will be as president after leaving office as governor since 2014. We have already seen what Tinubu can do and it is now worth trying someone different because we have never had any candidate who has presented his case like Peter Obi to rule Nigeria. Don't be too comfortable with Tinubu. Even if we elect Peter Obi the worst that will happen is that things will remain the same as Tinubu's tenure without much improvement. Buhari was clueless but the country still survived destruction. Peter Obi has a far better idea than Buhari so it wouldn't be under his watch that the country will be destroyed.

Now, this is better talk than affirming Peter Obi's past. The shift you made now has a better outlook. You're not supporting the Peter Obi of 2014. You're supporting a probabilistic Peter Obi for 2027. But, what if nothing has changed?

My support for Tinubu is based on the fact that he did better than his competitors in previous leadership assignments. Not because he is the best of the best that Nigeria could have. I have many candidates of South Western and South Eastern extraction I still prefer over him. But, the issue is that I don't see what anyone would do differently if he becomes president in Tinubu's stead. Here is it:

1. For Nigeria to move forward, both fuel and forex subsidies must be removed.

2. This will similarly increase the cost of living as it is today. Any president that cannot do away with subsidy is already a failure. It means he's maintaining the status quo. Nigeria would collapse in less than 10yrs by my projection.

3. If the president is concerned about infrastructural development considering how far behind Nigeria has being infrastructurally, he might borrow money to close up the gaps.

4. Tinubu's reforms are absolutely necessary if Nigeria would move forward. No lily livered president can have the boldness to implement the reforms Tinubu is implementing. Many presidents would soft pedal the moment the masses cry out against them. Meanwhile, the reforms are extremely necessary. The only issue I have with the reforms is that the government should have taken the time to educate the masses on the necessity of the reforms before and during implementation.

5. When you look at how Tinubu is touching all government parastatals with his reforms, you should commend him. He's reforming, overturning, reinventing and rejigging many institutions at a go in a bid to inject fresh life into the nation. He has decentralized some programs that were being monopolized by the north, and didn't bulge when the north cried out. Several other presidents would chicken out for fear of reelection.

6..He is not afraid of the north. The North has been the bane of Nigeria. That's the kind of president we need.

7. I believe Tinubu would do more in his 2nd term than he did in the first. Especially in the area of insecurity. Tinubu will crush the north to put an end to the menace. Right now, he is taking it slowly because continuity matters.

8. Leadership is not magic. Tinubu himself is an accomplished accountant, and knows what he's doing. But, it's still too early to rate his economic performance. I am giving him 5 years on that. Presently, the economy is looking positive. Price does not necessarily have to come down but money must be easily accessible to the masses. That's what matters. Not price. Developed nations have extremely high prices for goods and services compared to Nigeria. However, they're livable because the money is easily accessible. I'm looking to see that accessibility in 5 years of this government.

9. Looking at the crop of aspirants vying for the presidency now, I don't see anyone who'll do better than Tinubu among them:

1. Atiku: A well known politician with high level corruption as his identity. While there's no evidence of corruption on Tinubu yet, Atiku has multi-billion dollar evidences against his name.

2. Obi: He MAY be sincere but his sincerity is in doubt. If we must separate him from his past performance as you opined, we still have to look at his capability to take decisive actions without tearing the north. This issue is much more important than merely having good intentions.

3. Sowore: Grossly inexperienced. He has the seal but zeal is not enough to turn around the fortunes of a nation. Sowore lacks any governance experience to lead a complex and multidimensional Nigeria in my opinion.

I started observing Tinubu more closely during his pre -election campaigns when he said "Other nations cannot be progressing while Nigeria remains on its knees." That statement comes only from the lips of someone who is pained by underdevelopment. It made him look sincere. I still didn't vote him anyway, but the things he's doing in his presidency shows he really meant what he said.

Nigeria had already gone to the dogs. Tinubu is steering the country in a new direction. This sudden change of course coupled with the internal shakeups would bring temporal hardship. We must endure a few years. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. We cannot continue maintaining the status quo. The country will die.

FxMasterz:
Now, this is better talk than affirming Peter Obi's past. The shift you made now has a better outlook. You're not supporting the Peter Obi of 2014. You're supporting a probabilistic Peter Obi for 2027. But, what if nothing has changed?

My support for Tinubu is based on the fact that he did better than his competitors in previous leadership assignments. Not because he is the best of the best that Nigeria could have. I have many candidates of South Western and South Eastern extraction I still prefer over him. But, the issue is that I don't see what anyone would do differently if he becomes president in Tinubu's stead. Here is it:

1. For Nigeria to move forward, both fuel and forex subsidies must be removed.

2. This will similarly increase the cost of living as it is today. Any president that cannot do away with subsidy is already a failure. It means he's maintaining the status quo. Nigeria would collapse in less than 10yrs by my projection.

3. If the president is concerned about infrastructural development considering how far behind Nigeria has being infrastructurally, he might borrow money to close up the gaps.

4. Tinubu's reforms are absolutely necessary if Nigeria would move forward. No lily livered president can have the boldness to implement the reforms Tinubu is implementing. Many presidents would soft pedal the moment the masses cry out against them. Meanwhile, the reforms are extremely necessary. The only issue I have with the reforms is that the government should have taken the time to educate the masses on the necessity of the reforms before and during implementation.

5. When you look at how Tinubu is touching all government parastatals with his reforms, you should commend him. He's reforming, overturning, reinventing and rejigging many institutions at a go in a bid to inject fresh life into the nation. He has decentralized some programs that were being monopolized by the north, and didn't bulge when the north cried out. Several other presidents would chicken out for fear of reelection.

6..He is not afraid of the north. The North has been the bane of Nigeria. That's the kind of president we need.

7. I believe Tinubu would do more in his 2nd term than he did in the first. Especially in the area of insecurity. Tinubu will crush the north to put an end to the menace. Right now, he is taking it slowly because continuity matters.

8. Leadership is not magic. Tinubu himself is an accomplished accountant, and knows what he's doing. But, it's still too early to rate his economic performance. I am giving him 5 years on that. Presently, the economy is looking positive. Price does not necessarily have to come down but money must be easily accessible to the masses. That's what matters. Not price. Developed nations have extremely high prices for goods and services compared to Nigeria. However, they're livable because the money is easily accessible. I'm looking to see that accessibility in 5 years of this government.

9. Looking at the crop of aspirants vying for the presidency now, I don't see anyone who'll do better than Tinubu among them:

1. Atiku: A well known politician with high level corruption as his identity. While there's no evidence of corruption on Tinubu yet, Atiku has multi-billion dollar evidences against his name.

2. Obi: He MAY be sincere but his sincerity is in doubt. If we must separate him from his past performance as you opined, we still have to look at his capability to take decisive actions without tearing the north. This issue is much more important than merely having good intentions.

3. Sowore: Grossly inexperienced. He has the seal but zeal is not enough to turn around the fortunes of a nation. Sowore lacks any governance experience to lead a complex and multidimensional Nigeria in my opinion.

I started observing Tinubu more closely during his pre -election campaigns when he said "Other nations cannot be progressing while Nigeria remains on its knees." That statement comes only from the lips of someone who is pained by underdevelopment. It made him look sincere. I still didn't vote him anyway, but the things he's doing in his presidency shows he really meant what he said.

Nigeria had already gone to the dogs. Tinubu is steering the country in a new direction. This sudden change of course coupled with the internal shakeups would bring temporal hardship. We must endure a few years. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. We cannot continue maintaining the status quo. The country will die.

Peter Obi has something which Tinubu doesn't have as much. And that is character. Character is also very important on the job. I am not saying Tinubu has bad character. But his character is not on par with Peter Obi. Peter Obi said he was going to remove subsidy if he gets elected. If he had been elected and he removed subsidy I trust him to go to the streets to speak with Nigerians and plead with them for their understanding and patience. This can greatly help to pacify the masses. But Tinubu can never do this. Secondly, for every one Naira that Peter Obi steals l trust Tinubu to steal 1000 Naira.

Everything you listed up there as Tinubu's advantages, Peter Obi can also accomplish them PLUS a better character, PLUS less money lost in corruption. That's why he is a more attractive candidate to me.

Nefort:
Peter Obi has something which Tinubu doesn't have as much. And that is character. Character is also very important on the job. I am not saying Tinubu has bad character. But his character is not on par with Peter Obi. Peter Obi said he was going to remove subsidy if he gets elected. If he had been elected and he removed subsidy I trust him to go to the streets to speak with Nigerians and plead with them for their understanding and patience. This can greatly help to pacify the masses. But Tinubu can never do this. Secondly, for every one Naira that Peter Obi steals l trust Tinubu to steal 1000 Naira.

Everything you listed up there as Tinubu's advantages, Peter Obi can also accomplish them PLUS a better character, PLUS less money lost in corruption. That's why he is a more attractive candidate to me.

Smiling. I think the outward show of character by Peter Obi is a farce. People like him can be very dangerous. Well, being dangerous is a good thing for a Nigerian president. Otherwise, the fellow will die before his time. He needs to be shrewd, unpredictable and stubborn at the same time. If I read between your lines, I suppose you meant people management rather than just character. Maybe Obi is good at managing people and crises. I do not know how true this is, as you didn't provide your basis for this assertion.

Politicians are cunning. Remember James Nwafor and the Eze river massacres under Obi's government. Just take a look at some past associates of Obi who left him and what they said about him, you won't see anything like character in his private dealings. That's good for Nigeria anyway. As president, if you have character, you won't achieve anything. This actually was the reason why many doubted Osibanjo. He was too nice to be president. He later proved his mettle during some of Buhari's many absenteeism though, but most people are still fixated on his niceness. I will vote Osibanjo 1,000 times before I even consider Tinubu. I also rate him higher than Akinwumi because Akinwumi has never been in government, hence you can never be very accurate about what he could do. But, for Osibanjo,I can look at his antecedents and make strong decisions on that.

But, you see, politicians are not nice generally, Osibanjo may still be an exception but I could observe how he defied the north and even pitched himself against his boss. He valued Nigeria above relationships. I'm sure you would agree with me.

So, as I was saying, no politician in Nigeria has character. They're very cunning. But, that's good for Nigeria as I said. They have individual styles of bad character. Obi's own is very covert. He's shrewd. Very shrewd. And, it's a good trait for presidency. However, I don't think he can defy the north to achieve an aim. That one can only be left to the imagination as there's no way to prove that. But Tinubu grew up as a brutal, fearless man. Someone who even pushed drugs and frolick with hooligans. Such don't hear come after they hear go. His fearlessly is tested. And you can see it in his presidency. To lead Nigeria, you must be a military man or be a tough man.

If by character, you meant people management or crisis management, I may oblige you because Tinubu and his lieutenants have not demonstrated enough skill in this area.

Oh, and I remember you said Tinubu steals better than Obi. We cannot tell o because they both have the same style. They'll steal and you'll never know how much because of the style they've both perfected..

FxMasterz:
Smiling. I think the outward show of character by Peter Obi is a farce. People like him can be very dangerous. Well, being dangerous is a good thing for a Nigerian president. Otherwise, the fellow will die before his time. He needs to be shrewd, unpredictable and stubborn at the same time. If I read between your lines, I suppose you meant people management rather than just character. Maybe Obi is good at managing people and crises. I do not know how true this is, as you didn't provide your basis for this assertion.

Politicians are cunning. Remember James Nwafor and the Eze river massacres under Obi's government. Just take a look at some past associates of Obi who left him and what they said about him, you won't see anything like character in his private dealings. That's good for Nigeria anyway. As president, if you have character, you won't achieve anything. This actually was the reason why many doubted Osibanjo. He was too nice to be president. He later proved his mettle during some of Buhari's many absenteeism though, but most people are still fixated on his niceness. I will vote Osibanjo 1,000 times before I even consider Tinubu. I also rate him higher than Akinwumi because Akinwumi has never been in government, hence you can never be very accurate about what he could do. But, for Osibanjo,I can look at his antecedents and make strong decisions on that.

But, you see, politicians are not nice generally, Osibanjo may still be an exception but I could observe how he defied the north and even pitched himself against his boss. He valued Nigeria above relationships. I'm sure you would agree with me.

So, as I was saying, no politician in Nigeria has character. They're very cunning. But, that's good for Nigeria as I said. They have individual styles of bad character. Obi's own is very covert. He's shrewd. Very shrewd. And, it's a good trait for presidency. However, I don't think he can defy the north to achieve an aim. That one can only be left to the imagination as there's no way to prove that. But Tinubu grew up as a brutal, fearless man. Someone who even pushed drugs and frolick with hooligans. Such don't hear come after they hear go. His fearlessly is tested. And you can see it in his presidency. To lead Nigeria, you must be a military man or be a tough man.

If by character, you meant people management or crisis management, I may oblige you because Tinubu and his lieutenants have not demonstrated enough skill in this area.

Oh, and I remember you said Tinubu steals better than Obi. We cannot tell o because they both have the same style. They'll steal and you'll never know how much because of the style they've both perfected..

Future events are still unfolding. So all I can say at this point is let's watch and see what is coming up ahead. The future will prove you right or wrong. Especially if Peter Obi becomes president in future. Then we can actually compare the performances of Bola Tinubu and Peter Obi as president.

Nefort:
Future events are still unfolding. So all I can say at this point is let's watch and see what is coming up ahead. The future will prove you right or wrong. Especially if Peter Obi becomes president in future. Then we can actually compare the performances of Bola Tinubu and Peter Obi as president.

Yeah, and it would likewise prove you right or wrong too. But, I hardly make wrong political choices. All those who almost fought me for asking them to reject Buhari in 2014 later wished they listened to me. Their shouts of "Change dole" turned to weeping. Buhari did absolutely nothing for Nigeria. He was just a waste of the presidential seat. They guy only came to settle his family and embolden his kinsmen to fulfil the vision of their forefathers in taking all of Nigeria. That'd all.

But, you see this Tinubu, you just have to see beyond the horizon to know he's doing what any good president would do for the country.

I usually refrain from voting if I cannot trust any of the candidates presented by the political parties. I'll just stay home and sleep. For example, I cannot be a fool to vote Buhari or Atiku into the presidency. The two most prominent parties each presented these two crooks. I just went home to sleep. I did the same in 2019 and 2023. I will not vote any devil if all the political parties present each party his own devil. My orientation about Tinubu only changed after hr became president. Maybe it'll change about Obi too if he one day has his wishes fulfilled. I criticized Tinubu heavily before he became president, just as I'm currently doing Obi.

FxMasterz:
But, you see this Tinubu, you just have to see beyond the horizon to know he's doing what any good president would do for the country.

See you later after Tinubu's tenure.