₦airaland Forum

Princedapace:
No country with high rate of corruption has ever risen.

benardtotti:
I will try my very best to answer you not as a supporter of the apc but as a Nigerian who advocates proper governance .

First the decay didn't start with this government, it is over 50 years old , when nigeria found wealth with oil in the 70s Gowon made that famous statement that Nigeria's problem is not money but how to spend it , that was the beginning of the lack of accountability that entered governance in nigeria as politicians ajd even the military ended up spending money on white elephant projects, doing subsidy ,and dashing our fellow african countries money .

Meanwhile other countries like uae who also found wealth in oil around the same time sat down and mapped out a blueprint on how to use the oil wealth to develop their country .

You can blame tinubu all you want but the reason I admire his courage is that he didn't come in and do the same populist nonsense other leaders that got us into the mess in the first place , at least he tried to reform the system.

No politician in his first term will try what tinubu did .

Finally , after all said and done even if he looses and a new person comes in how sure are you that they won't continue with Tinubu’s policies ?
Will they revoke the tax act ?
Will they bring back subsidy and begin to pay dangote to supply fuel at 500 per litre ?

Where will they get funds to pay off all our debts ?etc

Forget partisan politics for an instance and go thru all I wrote logically and reply .

Sheuns:
Those posts above are funny.

They forget one thing, the more you earn, the more you’re likely to spend.

The OP and co-travellers are lunatics that can NEVER be rich.

Go and read the 'Richest Man In Babylon'

Even billionaires don't always flex their wealth.

With that amount, you can save so much that you can invest that will give you returns to live the life you crave for - vacations and the rest.

OkanlawonB:
30M naira annually or 2.5M naira monthly is still a big money.
If this level of earnings is sustainable, you can afford to live fine not just surviving.

ogawisdom:
Depends on location, family size and lifestyle. But very few can earn 6m pa and they are doing fine

Tenses:
Oh boy 👦 you don feed Me with statistics sotey my belle won burst open.

nedekid:
Did they tell you they are doing just fine? Oga you earn 6m yearly you are in poverty, you cannot afford the basic things of life, you just eat, sleep and nack the mrs at home, what quality of life can the person enjoy? After paying rent, feeding, transport cost, school fees, utilities etc money don finish, na to start to borrow money left right and center, abi why do you think they call naija abegistan?
Gosh it is so bad these days. Yesterday my bedroom TV broke so I rushed down to fouani on Allen to get a replacement, they were not opened so I entered cash and carry. Omo the begging level was crazy, after testing the TV while putting it back in box the sales guy started asking me to find him something, I told him straight what kind of rubbish is this, is that how they operate here, if not next time I will rather go elsware, that was not the end, the lady giving the warrantee paper at the entrance started begging, I got to the car, the gate en were all begging, Haba! Real abegistan! The begging I assume is to make additional income because their salaries is certainly not enough. I understand entering buses cost as high as 1k a drop, imagine spending 5k daily on transport to work and feeeing, so if they beg well enough maybe they can use that to sort out transport and feeding cost so they do it aggressively.

lawani:
There are many countries if we go by ranking that are ranked higher than Nigeria in corruption but that are industrialized and even respected eg Russia. There is no country without corruption but all countries will take care of what is giving them revenue

bobogogo:
lmao
this your comment is making me to laugh all day.
abeg o!
somebody help me o!
dis guy don finish me o!

ogascomax:
Na you decide to go and likely to be living above the 30 millionaire. How many family earn 10 millionaire yearly self. That money will make you to live over comfortable.

nedekid:
Lol, Bros no be small thing. The begging at that cash and carry on Allen avenue just before fouani LG store is on a PhD level.

Princedapace:
The west made u believe Russia is corrupt, they play.
And Russia has low income tax rate. They rely heavily on VAT. I have said that again and again, a resource rich country should focus more in VAT than income tax. A crazy 25 percent income tax for such a poor country is evil.
I have explained that ur money has lost value. So, in your 20m per year, govt considers u as a high earner, but u are not. The money has become useless.
Focus on VAT.
Look at this statement:
"Why Russia's Income Tax is Kept LowState Revenue Structure: Russia is a resource-rich nation. The federal budget relies heavily on taxes and duties from oil, gas, and other natural resource exports rather than relying on citizens’ paychecks"
Can u see? This is exactly what Nigeria should be doing because it is rich. Tax the natural resources, more. Leave the income people make. Tax VAT when people spend their money. That is better taxation. The aggrevated taxation by Tinubu is old model, UK driven, colonial driven, wicked and slavery.
A resource rich country should invest to system that will help them convert their lithium into finished batteries and sell to earn money, okay?

Princedapace:
U are speaking from the mindset of poor!
30m supposed to make u live well, but due to inflation, u cant anymore. 30m supposed to place u as a middle class, but due to the situation of the country, u arent even close to that.
By the time u fuel ur car, fuel ur gen, pursue 24/7 electricity, eat healthy fruits, live in comfortable area, pay children school fee, use quality health care, eat good foods that are healthy, baba, u don drain already. If u come add flight for ur family, vacation, u are finished. Can u now see?
Some of u dont understand the post and it is basically due to poverty

lawani:
Lagos and Abuja or PH maybe expensive because of rent and if you really have high income you would be able to afford to go off grid so electricity costs would not be significant. We are not talking of a luxury lifestyle here but comfortable living. Flying in Nigeria today is a luxury and it is even more expensive here than in high income countries. The most senior civil servants are not paid ten million naira per annum after decades of service and you are saying thirty million naira is not enough for you in an average Nigerian city? Can a senior civil servant in any state be described as poor?

favor914:
Just imagine, during Goodluck Jonathan’s time?

Princedapace:
I genuinely want to understand people who still support the current state of Nigeria. I want to see things from their perspective and understand what exactly gives them hope or confidence in the system.

Here are some of the reasons why I have become deeply frustrated with Nigeria as a country.

Nigeria took control of our God-given natural resources, declared them government property, made enormous amounts of money from them for decades, yet the results are disappointing.

No Proper Public Water Supply
Most citizens still have to dig boreholes just to access water. In many places, there is no reliable treated water system provided by the government.
No Stable Electricity
Even after digging your own borehole, you still struggle with electricity to pump the water. I remember how stressful it was carrying my heavy generator downstairs several times a week just to pump water. It is exhausting.
Poor Network and Internet Services
You constantly battle with poor network coverage. Please do not tell me network is good in your area. Good network should be standard across all major cities, state capitals, and urban centers. Starlink practically came to rescue internet access for many Nigerians, just as generators and solar systems became alternatives to failed electricity infrastructure.
Healthcare Is a Nightmare
Many of our best doctors have left the country in search of better pay and better working conditions. We are left with fewer doctors, poorly funded hospitals, and overwhelmed healthcare systems. Even the hospital I use had to install massive solar infrastructure, and the cost was indirectly transferred to patients like us.
Insecurity Has Become Terrifying
Going to bed in Nigeria now feels frightening. You could be kidnapped. Your children could be kidnapped. Armed bandits have taken over many highways and rural communities. The number of Nigerians kidnapped monthly from their homes and roads is alarming.

Personally, I have not traveled outside the state I currently live in for about three years because of insecurity. The last time I had to travel, I used a flight because the roads no longer felt safe.

The economy is brutal too. One million naira disappears before you even realize it. Citizens practically fund every social need by themselves.

Even as an individual earning ₦30 million yearly, if you are a family man, you can still feel financially drained unless you are willing to lower your standard of living significantly. The moment you try to maintain a higher quality of life, the expenses become overwhelming.

To afford:

24/7 electricity
Reliable water supply
Proper healthcare
Quality education for your children
Good internet like Starlink
Healthy feeding
One or two family vacations yearly

…you may still spend the entire year struggling financially despite earning what should normally be considered a strong income.

Nigerians Pay Heavy Taxes Without Real Value in Return
The government makes enormous amounts of money from citizens. When we heard how much companies like MTN paid in taxes, many people celebrated. But where did that money come from? It came from ordinary Nigerians paying for services.

Nigerians are heavily taxed, whether people realize it or not.

Every USSD transaction attracts charges. Bank transfers attract charges. Driver’s licenses, passports, imports, exports, ATM withdrawals, and countless services all come with taxes, levies, or fees.

You could earn ₦100,000 and unknowingly spend over ₦15,000 through different forms of indirect taxation and service charges.

Companies like Meta and Google also pay taxes to the Nigerian government, but that money still ultimately comes from hardworking Nigerians using their platforms and services.

Yet despite all this, the government still wants to widen income taxation, especially targeting the informal sector — people who built businesses and survived without meaningful government support.

Housing Costs Are Becoming Unbearable
Rent keeps increasing while purchasing power keeps dropping drastically. So how exactly are citizens expected to afford decent housing?

And then people ask why crime is increasing. Survival itself has become extremely difficult.

Nigeria is also a highly dependent society where one individual is often responsible for supporting parents, siblings, spouse, and children at the same time.

Education Is Becoming Unsafe and Unreliable
Honestly, many public schools look abandoned. Some of the videos online make government schools resemble neglected facilities. A lot of parents no longer trust public education, so they are forced into expensive private schools.

So, what exactly is my benefit as a Nigerian citizen?

I know how much money Nigeria takes from me yearly. Even as a freelancer before this aggressive tax expansion, VAT was already deducted from many services and transactions I paid for. The government already made significant money from me indirectly.

Now, after paying VAT across products and services, people are still expected to surrender a large percentage of their income through direct taxation.

Copying systems from countries like the UK without building equivalent infrastructure and public services first is unfair.

I am honestly drained. Nigeria feels suffocating.

And the worst part?

Corruption remains deeply rooted.
Politicians still abuse public institutions.
Elections are still heavily questioned.
Huge amounts of money are spent maintaining politicians and their families.

Citizens are constantly told to endure hardship. But why does it seem like only ordinary Nigerians are expected to suffer?

Can politicians not endure too?

Are citizens alone supposed to make sacrifices while the political class continues living comfortably?

For those who still strongly support the current state of Nigeria, I genuinely want to understand your reasons.

ozo13:
15M is more than enough to ball in a year and u can comfortably save another 15m.no deceive urself.15m is like spending 1.25m monthly.400k is more than enough to fuel car in a month (like around 300litre- where u wan even go with 300litre in a month) 500k more than enough for good quality food
300k for miscellaneous .
Infact how many families even fit afford 1m for monthly spending in this 9ja.

franchasng:
Me and you are not on the same level or wavelength.

I don't have a Nigerian Governor.


I am only pressing for a better Nigeria for people like you. We want you guys to experience good life and good governance in your lifetime so that you will realize that Nigeria has been under bondage for years.



And for your information leadership flows from top to bottom and not from bottom to top.


If the President is performing, other lower government officials will fall in line.

Only the President have the constitutional power and resources to fight insecurity and combat corruption in all cadres of government.


The buck stops at the President's office.


A better Nigeria can only start from a better President and not Governor or Senator or LGA Chairmen

mrvitalis:
How about house
Electricity
Health
Internet
Food
Outings
Cloths
Subscriptions
Vacation
Hobby

Princedapace:
I genuinely want to understand people who still support the current state of Nigeria. I want to see things from their perspective and understand what exactly gives them hope or confidence in the system.

Here are some of the reasons why I have become deeply frustrated with Nigeria as a country.

Nigeria took control of our God-given natural resources, declared them government property, made enormous amounts of money from them for decades, yet the results are disappointing.

No Proper Public Water Supply
Most citizens still have to dig boreholes just to access water. In many places, there is no reliable treated water system provided by the government.
No Stable Electricity
Even after digging your own borehole, you still struggle with electricity to pump the water. I remember how stressful it was carrying my heavy generator downstairs several times a week just to pump water. It is exhausting.
Poor Network and Internet Services
You constantly battle with poor network coverage. Please do not tell me network is good in your area. Good network should be standard across all major cities, state capitals, and urban centers. Starlink practically came to rescue internet access for many Nigerians, just as generators and solar systems became alternatives to failed electricity infrastructure.
Healthcare Is a Nightmare
Many of our best doctors have left the country in search of better pay and better working conditions. We are left with fewer doctors, poorly funded hospitals, and overwhelmed healthcare systems. Even the hospital I use had to install massive solar infrastructure, and the cost was indirectly transferred to patients like us.
Insecurity Has Become Terrifying
Going to bed in Nigeria now feels frightening. You could be kidnapped. Your children could be kidnapped. Armed bandits have taken over many highways and rural communities. The number of Nigerians kidnapped monthly from their homes and roads is alarming.

Personally, I have not traveled outside the state I currently live in for about three years because of insecurity. The last time I had to travel, I used a flight because the roads no longer felt safe.

The economy is brutal too. One million naira disappears before you even realize it. Citizens practically fund every social need by themselves.

Even as an individual earning ₦30 million yearly, if you are a family man, you can still feel financially drained unless you are willing to lower your standard of living significantly. The moment you try to maintain a higher quality of life, the expenses become overwhelming.

To afford:

24/7 electricity
Reliable water supply
Proper healthcare
Quality education for your children
Good internet like Starlink
Healthy feeding
One or two family vacations yearly

…you may still spend the entire year struggling financially despite earning what should normally be considered a strong income.

Nigerians Pay Heavy Taxes Without Real Value in Return
The government makes enormous amounts of money from citizens. When we heard how much companies like MTN paid in taxes, many people celebrated. But where did that money come from? It came from ordinary Nigerians paying for services.

Nigerians are heavily taxed, whether people realize it or not.

Every USSD transaction attracts charges. Bank transfers attract charges. Driver’s licenses, passports, imports, exports, ATM withdrawals, and countless services all come with taxes, levies, or fees.

You could earn ₦100,000 and unknowingly spend over ₦15,000 through different forms of indirect taxation and service charges.

Companies like Meta and Google also pay taxes to the Nigerian government, but that money still ultimately comes from hardworking Nigerians using their platforms and services.

Yet despite all this, the government still wants to widen income taxation, especially targeting the informal sector — people who built businesses and survived without meaningful government support.

Housing Costs Are Becoming Unbearable
Rent keeps increasing while purchasing power keeps dropping drastically. So how exactly are citizens expected to afford decent housing?

And then people ask why crime is increasing. Survival itself has become extremely difficult.

Nigeria is also a highly dependent society where one individual is often responsible for supporting parents, siblings, spouse, and children at the same time.

Education Is Becoming Unsafe and Unreliable
Honestly, many public schools look abandoned. Some of the videos online make government schools resemble neglected facilities. A lot of parents no longer trust public education, so they are forced into expensive private schools.

So, what exactly is my benefit as a Nigerian citizen?

I know how much money Nigeria takes from me yearly. Even as a freelancer before this aggressive tax expansion, VAT was already deducted from many services and transactions I paid for. The government already made significant money from me indirectly.

Now, after paying VAT across products and services, people are still expected to surrender a large percentage of their income through direct taxation.

Copying systems from countries like the UK without building equivalent infrastructure and public services first is unfair.

I am honestly drained. Nigeria feels suffocating.

And the worst part?

Corruption remains deeply rooted.
Politicians still abuse public institutions.
Elections are still heavily questioned.
Huge amounts of money are spent maintaining politicians and their families.

Citizens are constantly told to endure hardship. But why does it seem like only ordinary Nigerians are expected to suffer?

Can politicians not endure too?

Are citizens alone supposed to make sacrifices while the political class continues living comfortably?

For those who still strongly support the current state of Nigeria, I genuinely want to understand your reasons.

ozo13:
15M is more than enough to ball in a year and u can comfortably save another 15m.no deceive urself.15m is like spending 1.25m monthly.400k is more than enough to fuel car in a month (like around 300litre- where u wan even go with 300litre in a month) 500k more than enough for good quality food
300k for miscellaneous .
Infact how many families even fit afford 1m for monthly spending in this 9ja.

ozo13:
15M is more than enough to ball in a year and u can comfortably save another 15m.no deceive urself.15m is like spending 1.25m monthly.400k is more than enough to fuel car in a month (like around 300litre- where u wan even go with 300litre in a month) 500k more than enough for good quality food
300k for miscellaneous .
Infact how many families even fit afford 1m for monthly spending in this 9ja.

anonimi:
The eyesore on Bourdillon Road
2nd January 2025

Beyond his neighbours, there is something about the sight of people hanging around a president’s residence that does not speak well of his leadership capabilities. Maybe no one has nudged him to see it, but the impression that spectacle on Bourdillon Road generates is that Tinubu enjoys the sight of suffering humans and thrives in—and through— their poverty.

If all these years, impoverished people hang around you and you remain comfortable enough to keep them just so they can be handed tokens of your large heart, then it means you have a pro-poverty mindset. Such a frame of mind is oriented toward cultivating poverty rather than stimulating abundance.

That is why he could unproblematically relate the story of his “friend” who went from using five Rolls Royce to a far-less valued car and not consider the import of the nonsense he was saying. That spurious account was an indication that this is a man for whom poverty—of others, not himself—is an ideal.

https://punchng.com/the-eyesore-on-bourdillon-road/

Princedapace:
No Stable Electricity

Even after digging your own borehole, you still struggle with electricity to pump the water. I remember how stressful it was carrying my heavy generator downstairs several times a week just to pump water. It is exhausting.

Princedapace:
No Proper Public Water Supply

Most citizens still have to dig boreholes just to access water. In many places, there is no reliable treated water system provided by the government.

InvertedHammer:
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It is by far better than Enugu.

500 gallons of water go for N20k. Multiply by 4 in a month, that's N80k. By extrapolation, that's N960k in a year on water alone. Why? Because the governor believes that clean and accessible water is the least of his worries. Yet they prance around like Enugu is Abuja even though the red muddy soil will have residents looking like they went tomb-raiding at night.

But then, considering where it was before Peter Mba, one can understand the accolades being that he moved the town from 16th Century to 17th Century but not anywhere near 20th Century. 21st Century is a stretch. EEDC? The worst of all.

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fergie001:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5v-F81hNTs

The Permanent Secretary, Office of Drainage Services and Water Resources in Lagos State, Mahmood Adegbite, has said that people drilling borehole in the Lekki axis of the state is probably drinking ‘’shit water.”

While speaking at a stakeholders meeting in the state recently, Adegbite noted that contaminated boreholes in Lekki pose health risk and added that treatment of waste water would eradicate any form of disease that may arise from it.

He said, “On waste water treatment, I will say that everyone digging borehole within the Lekki axis is probably drinking what I will call ‘shit water.’

https://punchng.com/video-everyone-digging-borehole-in-lekki-is-probably-drinking-shit-water-lagos-govt/?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwMABDJjbGNrAwAEK2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEewOd7728C0FSKQJNWar4yKRxNpNKt1owSlw47y57FKAux2QxvQL24Iu18rtw_aem_3kB5Sd2GjpdqjN6zFuIs7w

Azazyel:
30m a year is good money. Nothing like survival here. 2.5M a month is not survival in Nigeria unless you are living above your means.

nedekid:
Dhe end, the lady giving the warrantee paper at the entrance started begging, I got to the car, the gate en were all begging, Haba! Real abegistan! The begging I assume is to make additional income because their salaries is certainly not enough. I understand entering buses cost as high as 1k a drop, imagine spending 5k daily on transport to work and feeeing, so if they beg well enough maybe they can use that to sort out transport and feeding cost so they do it aggressively.

benardtotti:
I will try my very best to answer you not as a supporter of the apc but as a Nigerian who advocates proper governance .

First the decay didn't start with this government, it is over 50 years old , when nigeria found wealth with oil in the 70s Gowon made that famous statement that Nigeria's problem is not money but how to spend it , that was the beginning of the lack of accountability that entered governance in nigeria as politicians ajd even the military ended up spending money on white elephant projects, doing subsidy ,and dashing our fellow african countries money .

Meanwhile other countries like uae who also found wealth in oil around the same time sat down and mapped out a blueprint on how to use the oil wealth to develop their country .

You can blame tinubu all you want but the reason I admire his courage is that he didn't come in and do the same populist nonsense other leaders that got us into the mess in the first place , at least he tried to reform the system.

No politician in his first term will try what tinubu did .

Finally , after all said and done even if he looses and a new person comes in how sure are you that they won't continue with Tinubu’s policies ?
Will they revoke the tax act ?
Will they bring back subsidy and begin to pay dangote to supply fuel at 500 per litre ?

Where will they get funds to pay off all our debts ?etc

Forget partisan politics for an instance and go thru all I wrote logically and reply .

benardtotti:
I will try my very best to answer you not as a supporter of the apc but as a Nigerian who advocates proper governance .

First the decay didn't start with this government, it is over 50 years old , when nigeria found wealth with oil in the 70s Gowon made that famous statement that Nigeria's problem is not money but how to spend it , that was the beginning of the lack of accountability that entered governance in nigeria as politicians ajd even the military ended up spending money on white elephant projects, doing subsidy ,and dashing our fellow african countries money .

Meanwhile other countries like uae who also found wealth in oil around the same time sat down and mapped out a blueprint on how to use the oil wealth to develop their country .

You can blame tinubu all you want but the reason I admire his courage is that he didn't come in and do the same populist nonsense other leaders that got us into the mess in the first place , at least he tried to reform the system.

No politician in his first term will try what tinubu did .

Finally , after all said and done even if he looses and a new person comes in how sure are you that they won't continue with Tinubu’s policies ?
Will they revoke the tax act ?
Will they bring back subsidy and begin to pay dangote to supply fuel at 500 per litre ?

Where will they get funds to pay off all our debts ?etc

Forget partisan politics for an instance and go thru all I wrote logically and reply .

anonimi:
There are levels to this thing called life.

For someone at your level, it can be more than enough for you. For someone at a different level, it may not be enough, especially when Tinubu has failed to crash petrol price and dollar rate, after fighting for power and grabbing it, to hit the ground running cluelessly like a headless pig 🐖.

Promising heaven and delivering hell, is Tinubu’s regular trademark since his days as Lagos governor, after Afenifere elders allowed him to replace Engineer Funsho Williams. .

Tinubu came to destroy everything and everyone into a lower level of existence.

Know that and know peace.

Mountbatten:

I love people who know how to budget income they don't earn.