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Trippledots:
I don't know if my response is still needed but will drop all the same.

I have bought a unit from them and paid before pickup. I didn't pickup myself, but rather had a regular dispatch guy on bolt do the pickup for me.

I told him what I wanted him to pickup and that he will need to snap the battery before he leaves.

It went well. And I've since installed the battery.

No complaint so far.

I like that they use a BMS with Bluetooth too.

Cheers.

me too

AyobamiOluwole:
Very typical 😫
You did not even answer my question. You are just blabbing.

Interesting. The easy recourse to insult by children who have more data than sense has also crept here. You asked a silly question, but I chose to respond to you with education and your erudite response is I'm blabbing!

Hello house. I have a 6kw deye hybrid inverter the plastic body that's trending. Anyways the PV port seems to be outputting AC current somehow. If you put your tester in the port it illuminates and if you connect the PV breaker to the SPD and then earth the SPD my inverter and appliances will be shocking. How can I solve this . Is the inverter having factory issues?

Valto:
95% of all real pure sine wave sachet inverters are all rated at peak, the continuous power are half of the rated power and everyone buying them are aware or made to be aware! i can't advertise something different from what the manufacturer stated!

Your response is very interesting and deliberately misleading. It is not everyone that is an expert on the poor ethics of sachet inverter manufacturers that will recognize that a 3000W inverter actually means 1500W. I'm familiar with inverters and even I don't understand a system that inflates inverter powers using their short-lived peak output. That was why I asked you. And I expected that you will respond with their true nominal powers, not hiding under this "manufacturers' claims".

Even Aliexpress sellers clearly indicate the nominal ratings of their inverters, not just leave it to buyers to guess. This is an example from Aliexpress:

[/b]Warm reminder: Dear buyer!

Inverter 2000W, continuous power is 900W, peak power is 2000W.
Inverter 3000W, continuous power is 1300W, peak power is 3000W.
Inverter 4000W, continuous power is 1600W, peak power is 4000W.
Inverter 5000W, continuous power is 2200W, peak power is 5000W.
Inverter 6000W, continuous power is 2500W, peak power is 6000W.
Inverter 8000W, continuous power is 3000W, peak power is 8000W.[b]

When you advertise your inverters next time, please do the same. Include their real nominal outputs so that buyers know exactly what they are getting. It is the honest thing to do. And as you can see, real power is not always "half of their rated powers", it is often less than half.

Valto:
95% of all real pure sine wave sachet inverters are all rated at peak, the continuous power are half of the rated power and everyone buying them are aware or made to be aware! i can't advertise something different from what the manufacturer stated!

Would say Not everyOne is aware they all are rated at PEAK but funny enbough, if you decide going the extra mile to point those out and your words becomes length, dem go call am epistle. Now e short, dem still complain.

MoreOver, marketingWise, trust ain't to be expected always

Topper33:
Guys, Please what are your take on this:

So i have been following this tread for some time and from poplular recommendations to others , I was convinced and then I ordered and received a 3.2kwh battery from a buider on this forum. The delivery was fast, no delays. Although the set did not come with any accessories, no baterries cable etc . This was as stated by the builder. ....(only the battery box in a plastic build with a small bms screen and a button). All as advertised. So no issues there. This setup cost #550k (delivery inclusive). All i got in addition was the waybill receipt

The truth is, my friend who ordered for a 26.5v(100Ah) itel 2.5kwh battery, received theirs yesterday:
To my supprise, the itel battery Bank alone was 2.5 to 3 times heavier than mine, the setup was built in a solid steel housing case, has 3 internet communication ports, and 3 other advanced looking ports. Came with ALL the comm ports cables, also came with two 20 mm solid +/- battery cables , 3 year warrenty card, thick steel wall brackets, metallic wall screws, some addtional bolts and nuts and many more.
And all this cost #481k (including delivery fee).

Now I know why people crave the itel battery pack.

Although I have to say I over expected much for mine, but the person i bought mine from did not give me the kind of attention(as a first time customer as i would have wanted) the response sometimes was quite slow (had to literally push for any information with response coming anything it comes) no step by step on how to do much. I had to ask about value to set for bulk and float etc, Had to push and ask or most times google some stuff on my own. (I am not saying the seller did anything wrong o) but sincerly I dont think I may patronise the person in the future.I like my business partners to be approacheable irrespective of the value or amount involved in the trade......(my choice)

So, the itel on the other had virtually a full hands on manual that explains EVERYTHING you can do, clearly defined warranty card and many more quality of life stuffs you know.....

Although, I for one became a bit skeptical about the build i received (when i recall the itel heavy weight and quality) but everytime i checked the jk bms app, i showed all the cells adds up to 3.2kwh (see image). Even still, my mind still tells me I should have gone with the Itel due to its solid built, wall handing capability, solid customer and aftersales support, the quality of work and support it has.
(I thought going for "3.2kwh" was better than "2.5kwh" so i had to stop my initial itel order for the local build).

Its well sha


Forgive me for my long epistle...Just wanted to air my thoughts man.

Thanks Guys

Honestly, you really can't say which is better qualityWise until you get idea of quality of cells used. Hopefully quality of the Cells of your custom built pack is better else it would be very painFool.

A lot of times, we tend to priotize LOWest Price because wouldn't be surprised said battery didn't wasn't from @Valto or @mrReed you patronized.

Then again, hopefully this ain't an iTel advert

adrusa:
Your response is very interesting and deliberately misleading. It is not everyone that is an expert on the poor ethics of sachet inverter manufacturers that will recognize that a 3000W inverter actually means 1500W. I'm familiar with inverters and even I don't understand a system that inflates inverter powers using their short-lived peak output. That was why I asked you. And I expected that you will respond with their true nominal powers, not hiding under this "manufacturers' claims".

Even Aliexpress sellers clearly indicate the nominal ratings of their inverters, not just leave it to buyers to guess. This is an example from Aliexpress:

[/b]Warm reminder: Dear buyer!

Inverter 2000W, continuous power is 900W, peak power is 2000W.
Inverter 3000W, continuous power is 1300W, peak power is 3000W.
Inverter 4000W, continuous power is 1600W, peak power is 4000W.
Inverter 5000W, continuous power is 2200W, peak power is 5000W.
Inverter 6000W, continuous power is 2500W, peak power is 6000W.
Inverter 8000W, continuous power is 3000W, peak power is 8000W.[b]

When you advertise your inverters next time, please do the same. Include their real nominal outputs so that buyers know exactly what they are getting. It is the honest thing to do. And as you can see, real power is not always "half of their rated powers", it is often less than half.

Many a time, it is common knowledge that the buyers are already used to the Chinese terminology in how they brand their product. Hence people that buy from him are already in the game. they want to get theirs quickly without wating for AliExpress delivery time.

adrusa:
Your response is very interesting and deliberately misleading. It is not everyone that is an expert on the poor ethics of sachet inverter manufacturers that will recognize that a 3000W inverter actually means 1500W. I'm familiar with inverters and even I don't understand a system that inflates inverter powers using their short-lived peak output. That was why I asked you. And I expected that you will respond with their true nominal powers, not hiding under this "manufacturers' claims".

Even Aliexpress sellers clearly indicate the nominal ratings of their inverters, not just leave it to buyers to guess. This is an example from Aliexpress:

[/b]Warm reminder: Dear buyer!

Inverter 2000W, continuous power is 900W, peak power is 2000W.
Inverter 3000W, continuous power is 1300W, peak power is 3000W.
Inverter 4000W, continuous power is 1600W, peak power is 4000W.
Inverter 5000W, continuous power is 2200W, peak power is 5000W.
Inverter 6000W, continuous power is 2500W, peak power is 6000W.
Inverter 8000W, continuous power is 3000W, peak power is 8000W.[b]

When you advertise your inverters next time, please do the same. Include their real nominal outputs so that buyers know exactly what they are getting. It is the honest thing to do. And as you can see, real power is not always "half of their rated powers", it is often less than half.

oga rest abeg,,if you have complaints reach the manufacturers and not @valto the reseller….or go to Aliexpress and order…Or just go into the business and advertise your own like that….You just Dey type type type on top sachet inverter wey no get value

Collione:
Hello house. I have a 6kw deye hybrid inverter the plastic body that's trending. Anyways the PV port seems to be outputting AC current somehow. If you put your tester in the port it illuminates and if you connect the PV breaker to the SPD and then earth the SPD my inverter and appliances will be shocking. How can I solve this . Is the inverter having factory issues?

There's defintely leakAge somewhere. A technician could assist with that.

Also you didn't inform us if said inverter is connected to Grid (NEPA / PHCN), neither did you inform us if said system is earthed.

AyarmBoye:
oga rest abeg,,if you have complaints reach the manufacturers and not @valto the reseller….or go to Aliexpress and order…Or just go into the business and advertise your own like that….You just Dey type type type on top sachet inverter wey no get value

Even if it is only one person who is saved from buying 2500W inverter while thinking that they were buying 6000W, my job would have been done. It costs nothing to be totally upfront with a customer who may not be familiar with the fraudulent ratings practice by the Chinese. I will never buy an inverter without knowing the real power ratings even if they are inflated by the manufacturers using Peak power to advertise it.

By the way, keep the insults coming, it tells me the kind of persons you are.

Collione:
Hello house. I have a 6kw deye hybrid inverter the plastic body that's trending. Anyways the PV port seems to be outputting AC current somehow. If you put your tester in the port it illuminates and if you connect the PV breaker to the SPD and then earth the SPD my inverter and appliances will be shocking. How can I solve this . Is the inverter having factory issues?

Disconnect the AC output and see if your tester is still illuminating. Ensure that the misconnection is not coming from your house wiring before technicians start playing with your inverter.

adrusa:
Interesting. The easy recourse to insult by children who have more data than sense has also crept here. You asked a silly question, but I chose to respond to you with education and your erudite response is I'm blabbing!

Oga all this your English is unnecessary. Go and rest. You have no point.

adrusa:
Even if it is only one person who is saved from buying 2500W inverter while thinking that they were buying 6000W, my job would have been done. It costs nothing to be totally upfront with a customer who may not be familiar with the fraudulent ratings practice by the Chinese. I will never buy an inverter without knowing the real power ratings even if they are inflated by the manufacturers using Peak power to advertise it.

By the way, keep the insults coming, it tells me the kind of persons you are.

I didn’t insult you boss..apologies if it sounded like that…I just think sachet inverters aren’t worth the stress…

adrusa:
Your response is very interesting and deliberately misleading. It is not everyone that is an expert on the poor ethics of sachet inverter manufacturers that will recognize that a 3000W inverter actually means 1500W. I'm familiar with inverters and even I don't understand a system that inflates inverter powers using their short-lived peak output. That was why I asked you. And I expected that you will respond with their true nominal powers, not hiding under this "manufacturers' claims".

Even Aliexpress sellers clearly indicate the nominal ratings of their inverters, not just leave it to buyers to guess. This is an example from Aliexpress:

[/b]Warm reminder: Dear buyer!

Inverter 2000W, continuous power is 900W, peak power is 2000W.
Inverter 3000W, continuous power is 1300W, peak power is 3000W.
Inverter 4000W, continuous power is 1600W, peak power is 4000W.
Inverter 5000W, continuous power is 2200W, peak power is 5000W.
Inverter 6000W, continuous power is 2500W, peak power is 6000W.
Inverter 8000W, continuous power is 3000W, peak power is 8000W.[b]

When you advertise your inverters next time, please do the same. Include their real nominal outputs so that buyers know exactly what they are getting. It is the honest thing to do. And as you can see, real power is not always "half of their rated powers", it is often less than half.

It's your job to do some research then. Almost all satchet inverter buyers are aware of this fact. If you don't know then you probably shouldn't be buying one.

You can politely ask questions to learn, but accusing someone of false advertising on something that is common knowledge doesn't make you sound as smart as you think.

If by page 2,374 you still dey blow big grammar on this topic then what you need is research & education on the topic, not claims. The pricing alone suppose trigger your curiosity.

bassdow:
There's defintely leakAge somewhere. A technician could assist with that.

Also you didn't inform us if said inverter is connected to Grid (NEPA / PHCN), neither did you inform us if said system is earthed.

Thanks for your feedback it's connected to the grid but even with grid absent and this is at night it still shocks. The inverter is earthed. From the pv port on the body of the inverter with a tester you will see the AC current flowing. Once the SPD is connected and earthed everything will start shocking. I suspect the current leaks from the pv port to the SPD and to the earthing wire which causes the shock. The house is earthed but the way.

adrusa:
Disconnect the AC output and see if your tester is still illuminating. Ensure that the misconnection is not coming from your house wiring before technicians start playing with your inverter.

This test was done but no changes. It's frustrating because asides from the shocking everything else works perfectly

Collione:
This test was done but no changes. It's frustrating because asides from the shocking everything else works perfectly

one thing I would suggest is your technician should do a thorough check to spot where issue is coming from. Who knows, could even be from your inverter sef as transformerLess inverters lack the issolation that transformer based inverters have.

Another is, is the earthing properly done ?

At end of the day, it's easier for those with physical access to spot the issue than the gueses we doing here

Unfaized:
It's your job to do some research then. Almost all satchet inverter buyers are aware of this fact. If you don't know then you probably shouldn't be buying one.

You can politely ask questions to learn, but accusing someone of false advertising on something that is common knowledge doesn't make you sound as smart as you think.

If by page 2,374 you still dey blow big grammar on this topic then what you need is research & education on the topic, not claims. The pricing alone suppose trigger your curiosity.

I don't think we should assume that all sachet buyers know that the inverters are rated at their peak power. As a user, if not for this forum, I believed that all inverters were rated at their continuous power.
That is why I am afraid of installers - they are used to not telling clients the truth about many things.
Users want to know things like peak power, continuous power, SOC, etc. These things help you to manage your installation well.
My two cents.

adrusa:
[s]Your response is very interesting and deliberately misleading[/s] It is not everyone that is an expert on the poor ethics of sachet inverter manufacturers that will recognize that a 3000W inverter actually means 1500W. I'm familiar with inverters and even I don't understand a system that inflates inverter powers using their short-lived peak output. That was why I asked you. And I expected that you will respond with their true nominal powers, not hiding under this "manufacturers' claims

anybody that enters my dm to place order, already knows or is made to know that the real power is half! check my jiji page ,it is the same info. i am not the producer,neither do i change the label in Nigerian , the ones in aliexpress are labelled the same in peak!

AyarmBoye:
oga rest abeg,,if you have complaints reach the manufacturers and not @valto the reseller….or go to Aliexpress and order…Or just go into the business and advertise your own like that….You just Dey type type type on top sachet inverter wey no get value

I tire ooo
Satchet inverters that are disposables

Valto:
anybody that enters my dm to place order, already knows or is made to know that the real power is half! check my jiji page ,it is the same info. i am not the producer,neither do i change the label in Nigerian , the ones in aliexpress are labelled the same in peak!

example

Valto:
example

Lols. See Valto o. You Dey shalaye?

You really get time for that ITK. Nor mind that guy.

AyobamiOluwole:
Lols. See Valto o. You Dey shalaye?

You really get time for that ITK. Nor mind that guy.

Oga rest na

No be everybody be expert like you.

Allow other learn abeg

You guys should leave satchet inverter users alone. Go to China to change what had been a fact if you don't like the label --- @adrusa.

Hybrid labels cannot be the same as satchet inverters.

Hybrid is labelled as continuous
Satchet is labelled as peak.

Don't wait for installers to tell you everything. All that is needed is the ability to read English or use Google translate to understand Chinese labels.

Nothing will spoil if we explain the difference between sachet and hybrid inverter power differences to people.
Experts can be arrogant at times.

Tdoctor:
Nothing will spoil if we explain the difference between sachet and hybrid inverter power differences to people.
Experts can be arrogant at times.

Goto WhatsApp AI you will learn and become a pro . Just type it in finish as you don't need to wait for anyone. E no hard na...

Collione:
Hello house. I have a 6kw deye hybrid inverter the plastic body that's trending. Anyways the PV port seems to be outputting AC current somehow. If you put your tester in the port it illuminates and if you connect the PV breaker to the SPD and then earth the SPD my inverter and appliances will be shocking. How can I solve this . Is the inverter having factory issues?

1. Check the SPD linked to PV from panel to ensure that it’s not AC SPD that’s used in place of DC SPD.
2. Check and also test the AC output wires from the inverter to ensure that live and neutral were not interchanged.
3. Check and also test the AC input wires to the inverter to ensure that live and neutral wires were not interchanged.

Pls someone should recommend the best PWM charge controller to buy to be used for a Lithium ion battery cells

Tdoctor:
I don't think we should assume that all sachet buyers know that the inverters are rated at their peak power. As a user, if not for this forum, I believed that all inverters were rated at their continuous power.
That is why I am afraid of installers - they are used to not telling clients the truth about many things.
Users want to know things like peak power, continuous power, SOC, etc. These things help you to manage your installation well.
My two cents.

Bros leave them; they know that many (most) people don't know this things AND it's to their (technicians / sellers / installers) advantage.

When working with clients, I go chat with them so tey e go be like say na them dey give instructions BUT guess what, deep down I know those making millions in the business don't talk much. In fact a lot wouldn't take a client serious if said customer decides buying things themSelves. Ask question anyHow and they begin vex.

Oooh you (customer) seem to have some idea of the project, they (installers/engineers) hate it.

Bryanluke:
Pls someone should recommend the best PWM charge controller to buy to be used for a Lithium ion battery cells

Why PWM and not MPPT

Also when you say "BEST" , hope you're aware that word is relative. Either way, let me respond accordingly, buy from the likes of morningStar, epEver, etc. They have good PWM charge controllers