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Kobojunkie:
Nonsense! How did you know he left his body? Let me guess... because he said so? Come on! Are you f-king kidding me? 😒

2. Ah! Darius said something; therefore, we all live forever? Common sense is indeed not common! 😒

CaptainJune:
Gosh, this thread is proof that the devil is the CEO of deception.

People want to believe there is no Being to whom they owe the accountability of their lives when they die.

Once a person dies he or she heads straight for judgment - Hebrews 9:27. There is no reincarnation, or purgatory. These are lies designed and sold by the devil, and those who hate Christ who formed them and separated them from the womb find it easier to digest than the truth about eternal reward in heaven and punishment in hell.

Not every NDE is true. The devil has built his own cases of NDEs to deceive the world because he is a deceiver from the beginning. Yes, we live forever...but where? The answer to that question depends on you whether you turn your life over to Christ now or not. For many people it is now or never.

Napata77:
➜Darius is not the first to talk about his out of body experience. There are websites with tens of thousands of testimonies from the public. Oh sure, they are all lying. The truth resides only in a 3,000 year old book by desert cattle rearers forced on you by England.
➜GROW UP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience www.nderf.org

Kobojunkie:
1. So, if a 1000 men claimed they have at one time or another left their bodies, you take that as proof that it is possible to leave one's own body? If a man claims the soul is eternal, without reproducible proof, do you take that to mean it is indeed the case? That is sort of like telling me the claims made by the many celebrities at the church of Scientology were fact, simply because lots of celebrities said so. 😒

2. You have not shown anyone here that you are yourself grown when all you have is a link to a website about untested/unproven ideas...pseudoscience... to back up your claims? 😒

Napata77:
➜USE YOUR BRAIN.
What do you mean by '1,000 men'?
I just asked AI ChatGPT:
''How many people have reported NDEs?''
Response:
...............
There’s no exact global count, but researchers estimate that hundreds of millions of people have reported Near-Death Experiences (NDEs).
The most commonly cited estimates are:
Around 4%–10% of the general population report having had an NDE.
Some studies estimate about 1 in 20 people (5%) will experience one in their lifetime.
Among people who nearly die — especially cardiac arrest survivors — the numbers are much higher, often 10%–23%.
Using today’s world population, even the conservative 5% estimate would mean over 400 million people worldwide may have reported or experienced an NDE.
Researchers studying NDEs include institutions such as:
International Association for Near-Death Studies
University of Virginia Division of Perceptual Studies
Commonly reported features include:
- moving through a tunnel,
- seeing a bright light,
- out-of-body experiences,
- meeting deceased relatives,
- intense peace or love,
- and life reviews.
- AI
.............
This is the digital age. Of Information. Yet you are stuck in the 1990s.
Why somebody would be so antagonistic to reports of survival of death, I've no idea.
Is it because it contradicts your so-called holy book?
TOUGH LUCK. DEAL WITH IT.

Kemetian:
The funny thing about all these stories is that this is what our African ancestors and African traditional religion has believed for thousands of years, before the British colonial invaders came with their Christianity and Bible, and claimed we needed to "accept" their religion in order to be "saved".

It was all a lie.

The Land of the Ancestors - where they call "Heaven" is our true home from where we all came.

We were there, and agreed to be born into this Earth for a temporary experience in a tough world that's like a boot camp.

We even chose our parents.

The idea is to let the soul see the opposite of the love and abundance of heaven, and then return Home more appreciative of what he enjoys in the Land of the Ancestors.

It's similar to when a millionaire sends his pampered kids to the village or to some poor relative's house, so they can get small sense about how life is. Because if all you know is luxury and abundance, you will not be as wise and deep as somebody who has seen all sorts of things in life.

Saturnalia:
While I agree that there are “Out of Body” experiences also known as “Soul Travel” by the Eckists, every information on this thread is inaccurate.

There are atleast 7 different Alien-Species that are living with us on Earth.

The Anunnaki whom the majority of the masses worship as “Gods”.

They are “gods” in the sense because they created the “Homo Sapiens” (which is us) from the “Homo Erectus” (Ape Men) they met on Earth when they landed through “Genetic Engineering”.

They did this by binding their own DNA into the DNA of the Homo Erectus.

Now, here’s what I want you to pay attention to: We, the Humans, refer to these Anunnaki as “Gods” because they were dishonest and hid the truth from us.

Now, the Anunnaki themselves have their own “GodS” (Plural - because they are a race just like Anunnaki themselves) whom they “Creator of All”.

https://enkispeaks.com/marduk-satan-clashed-with-enlil-yahweh-nannar-allah-until-federation-rep-galzu-ordered-dawning-of-age-of-enki-on-earth/

The Anunnaki were created by the “LYRANS” whom they call “Creator of All”.

Before the Anunnaki came to Earth, there were the “DRACOS” who are also the REPTILIANS (they look like snakes & lizards).

There were also the “GREYS”.

There were also the “LYRANS” that look like “White European People with 12ft height “. They inhabited a place called “ATLANTIS”.

The DRACOS (Reptilians) inhabited a place called “LEMURIA”.

There is the “GALACTIC FEDERATION” (Just like our own United Nations) set up to oversee the “GALAXIES” controlled mostly by the “LYRANS” (ATLANTEANS).

The DRACOS are a Power-Hungry Race that ventured into SPACE conquering every Planet they could find.

Now, the Atlanteans (LYRANS) bombarded Lemuria with electromagnetic pulses that sunk most of Lemuria whose “only parts above water were the Hawaiian Islands, the California Coast west  of the San Andreas Fault, Australia, New Zealand, the South Pacific Islands, Japan, the Philippines, Taiwan, and the islands of southeast Asia.

On Atlantis, “whenever the Atlanteans detected underground Reptilian activity, they blasted the inner Earth with lasers and electromagnetic pulses to kill them.  This weakened the upper crust of the Earth’s top mantle.  After several millennia of these attacks, the Atlantean continent started to break up.” 

http://enkispeaks.com/how-lyrans-dracos-pleiadians-martians-venusians-agarthans-came-to-earth-swerdlow-exposes-cia-info/

Anybody that understands how Earth was colonized will immediately abandon religion.

The exploits of the Anunnaki on Earth and Nibiru will open the eyes and mind of anybody that has been seeking for answers.

ENLIL = YAHWEH

ENKI = LUCIFER

MARDUK = SATAN

NANNAR (ENLIL’s Youngest Son) = ALLAH

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/sitchinbooks_enki.htm

Kushites:
IT HAS BEEN PROVEN MANY TIMES.

Have you heard of Near Death Experiences? NDE?

There are literally MILLIONs of documented NDE accounts today.

An NDE is when you are certified clinically dead (meaning you are totally unconscious with every bodily function ceased). In fact you are biologically dead apart from your heartbeat. But due to modern medical advances, you can be revived (if lucky). Many have been revived and described more or less the same type of conditions, including coming out of their bodies and seeing their body on the bed, with doctors and nurses around them or relatives etc...

Many have been revived and have described what was happening inside the room and even in other parts of the hospital during the time they were unconscious.

Here, you can read thousands of NDE testimonies from ordinary people.

https://www.nderf.org/Archives/NDERF_NDEs.html

CaptainJune:
Gosh, this thread is proof that the devil is the CEO of deception.

People want to believe there is no Being to whom they owe the accountability of their lives when they die.

Once a person dies he or she heads straight for judgment - Hebrews 9:27. There is no reincarnation, or purgatory. These are lies designed and sold by the devil, and those who hate Christ who formed them and separated them from the womb find it easier to digest than the truth about eternal reward in heaven and punishment in hell.

Not every NDE is true. The devil has built his own cases of NDEs to deceive the world because he is a deceiver from the beginning. Yes, we live forever...but where? The answer to that question depends on you whether you turn your life over to Christ now or not. For many people it is now or never.

Truthseeker10:
What exactly is this "soul" that you are talking about.?

Kemetian:
The SOUL is your Consciousness, including your Sub-Conscious.

The YOU that is occupying your body.

The YOU that is aware, and thinking, and typing this question.

It's an IMMORTAL ENTITY.

It can never die.

YOU are not your body.

Your body is just a vessel or space suit that allows your SOUL to exist meaningfully in this frequency band we call Earth.

A disembodied SOUL can still live on Earth if he chooses, but he will be invisible to humans.

There are likely millions of them on Earth at any given moment, just here to observe..

Kobojunkie:
I see that the point I was making there about facts not being established by count but by established provable truths. You actually concluded that I was attempting to make a case that truth was established by numbers and not by facts? Yikes! 😒😒😒

Kemetian:
➜NOBODY OWES YOU ANY CONVINCING. Believe whatever you want to believe. OKAY?

Kobojunkie:
Finally, you admit to not having any proof that the man in fact left his body, yet you wish for us to believe he did? 😒

Kemetian:
➜IF that is what your head concludes from all the above posted information, great. MOVE ALONG.

Kobojunkie:
Stop scamming people with obvious lies! 😒😒

Kushites:
➜Sorry, but you're the one who claims a man came to Earth who was born by a virgin impregnated by a spirit. changed 3 fishes to 500. Walked atop a sea without sinking. Put a man's ear back in it's place after it was cut off.Raised a man from dead.Changed water to wine at a party.Woke up from the dead 3 days after he was killed. And finally, flew up into heaven at a dinner table before onlookers. YOU HAVE A LOT OF NERVE CALLING OTHERS 'SCAMMERS'. When you wake up from your British colonial induced DELUSIONS, you will finally learn the truth about your existence.

Kobojunkie:
I didn't claim anything of what you say there. I read the book of the Israelite Scriptures, and I simply repeat what details are recorded in the books about only the descendants of Israel. I am not scamming anyone into believing it because if you haven't noticed, almost 99% of those on this website are Nigerians, not Israelites. So, how could I be guilty of scamming anyone? 😒

You, on the other hand, are here to literally lie to Nigerians that because some men somewhere claim to have left their bodies, therefore it must be true and so all men have eternal souls.... all this without any evidence or backing for claims made. That is literally scamming people. 😒

Kushites:
YOU BELIEVE LIES ABOUT ANCIENT MIRACLES WITH ZERO EVIDENCE OF THEIR OCCURRENCE.
YOU ATTEND CHURCH TO GIVE MORE ENERGY TO THOSE UNPROVEN LIES.
SO SHUT UP!!

Kobojunkie:
Lies? Attend Church? Stop scamming people! 😒😒

Kushites:
➜NDE's HAVE BEEN REPORTED BY OVER 400 MILLION PEOPLE ACCORDING TO AI. THAT'S SOLID EVIDENCE, UNLIKE YOUR ROTTEN CLAIMS OF "MIRACLES" MADE BY DESERT ILLITERATES 3,000 YEARS AGO!

Kobojunkie:
Here's a question for you. Islam is practiced by over 2 billion people. Does this mean Islam is true? Why?😒

Kushites:
➜EVERY RELIGION IS JUST A RELIGION. It's not your religion that counts in this life. It's your Divinity.
Your relationship to ONENESS. The Divine does not care about your religion. If it was important, EVERYBODY on EARTH would have equal access and exposure to the "true" religion.
➜ If YOU had been born in Saudi Arabia, China, or India, you would NOT be a Christian today. You would be an Imam or a Buddhist, or eating snakes in some Indian ritual.

Kobojunkie:
Here's a question for you. Islam is practiced by over 2 billion people. Does this mean Islam is true? Why?😒

Truthseeker10:
So according to your explanation of Hebrews 9:27, the people Jesus resurrected when he was on earth where either in heaven or hell fire before Jesus brought them back to earth with a resurrection?

CaptainJune:
I said when a person dies the next thing is judgment. What is the meaning of judgment to you? Does it mean heaven or hell to you? Are you trying to play ignorant to the meaning of judgment?
Where were they when Jesus brought them back to life? That is not the subject of this discussion.

MaxInDHouse:
If Jesus brought them back to life where were they before then?

The Bible says:


For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. ‭Romans 6:23 NIV‬

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. KJV

What will those who have paid for their sins with death be judged for after paying with their death? Romans 6:7🤔

CaptainJune:
Max, to begin with, the 'death' you referenced is spiritual in nature —eternal separation from God. The death you seem to imply is the physical death which all men must experience whether righteous or unrighteous. It has nothing to do with judgment. Remember the second death mentioned in the book of Revelation chapter 20? According to your logic, people who have paid for their sins with physical death must experience a second physical death, right?
In retrospect, you said people pay for their sins with death. What in the world does that even mean? What demonic doctrine is that? If people could actually pay for their sins with death then the sacrifice of Christ on the cross was irrelevant. It would also mean that the accountability required of man in judgment would become redundant as both evil and righteous men die.
When it is said that the Lord Jesus brought someone back to life the exact location of the resurrected person is technically unknown. However, one can speculate that the righeous souls went to a spiritual place of rest called Abraham's Bosom (see Luke 16:22). I say it is technically unknown because time does not work in eternity the way it works here. A person may die and may be awaiting their judgment when, through the fervent prayers of someone else or a group of people, they are resurrected. There is no cookie-cutter approach to the spiritual experiences of people who experienced clinical death and were resurrected.

MaxInDHouse:
It is written:

So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died. Genesis 5:5

Did God meant Adam will still be judged again after his death? Genesis 2:17; 3:19🤔

MaxInDHouse:
It is written:
So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died. Genesis 5:5
Did God meant Adam will still be judged again after his death? Genesis 2:17; 3:19🤔

CaptainJune:
Christ, the second Adam, who knew no sin tasted physical death as well. What then was the purpose of His physical death if it accomplished nothing?