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Re: Fix Oyo First – Presidency Tackles Makinde Over Attack On Tinubu by AMINDA: 1:11pm On May 30
Well, APC just gave itself away. This validates those who have opined that the incident in Oyo was engineered to sabotage Seyi Makinde's presidential campaign. Unfortunately, "when it comes to issues of insecurity, the bulk stops at the president's desk". That's a direct quote from Tinubu to Goodluck Jonathan.
Re: Fix Oyo First – Presidency Tackles Makinde Over Attack On Tinubu by BrickandLace(f): 1:13pm On May 30
Olamideayomide:
Instead of the presidency to work with the state government on how to rescue the kidnapped citizens, they are throwing words with the governor.

FG control the security architecture of the whole control, cos there's limitation for the state government on the securities.
So only Amotekun with dane guns will face terrorists with AK's and RPG abi.

Not sorry to say those that surrounds Mr. President doesn't wish him well o, they are not giving him better updates and advise.
Nawa oooo....how does this FG rant rescue our children.
I can't wait to see these vagabonds voted out and probed.
Re: Fix Oyo First – Presidency Tackles Makinde Over Attack On Tinubu by happney65: 2:25pm On May 30
Lithiumite:
100 vehicles,what vehicles,26 years old tokunbo sienna's or JMC Chinese pick ups not upto 20m a piece.....i was expecting to see pics,you think securing a state is all about buying vehicles....oyo has a population of about 9m.joker abeg go and sit down somewhere.
You are the one that is a joker and should cover your face in shame. grin grin. I thought you said they are underfunded? I showed you real time funding you are now crying. Show me any Amotekun in the SW tht is as funded as that of Oyo state? Show me and I'll give you 100K today today

Even members of the APC card carrying APC folks in Oyo know that he has done excellently well in terms of funding Amotekun and the police force. Not to even talk of the police. Amotekun got over 400bikes as startup and currently over 200 trucks for Amotekun. Note, I'm not talking about the police o..let's not talk about them yet

But you joker,who claims Amotekun is not funded,who is not on ground in Oyo,be crying here.

I have told you,show me a state in the SW,that has funded their force as much as Oyo and I will give you 100K today

Your time starts NOW!
Re: Fix Oyo First – Presidency Tackles Makinde Over Attack On Tinubu by Lithiumite: 2:52pm On May 30
happney65:
You are the one that is a joker and should cover your face in shame. grin grin. I thought you said they are underfunded? I showed you real time funding you are now crying. Show me any Amotekun in the SW tht is as funded as that of Oyo state? Show me and I'll give you 100K today today

Even members of the APC card carrying APC folks in Oyo know that he has done excellently well in terms of funding Amotekun and the police force. Not to even talk of the police. Amotekun got over 400bikes as startup and currently over 200 trucks for Amotekun. Note, I'm not talking about the police o..let's not talk about them yet

But you joker,who claims Amotekun is not funded,who is not on ground in Oyo,be crying here.

I have told you,show me a state in the SW,that has funded their force as much as Oyo and I will give you 100K today

Your time starts NOW!
The article you posted quoted that vehicles were given to amotekun and other security agencies.....lets even agree without conceding, is it only buying vehicles......why are you the mouth piece of the oyo givt,let them come out and show us what they have done lets judge......how many amotekun security post are in that village where the incident happened,how many surveillance equipments,how many vehicles?

Security isn't all about buying vehicles,its far beyond that,what's the operational capabilities of the amorekun,can you put them at lar with the rrs in Lagos.......what is the security situation report from amotekun since this incident happened? They are visibly not on ground......the simple truth my friend is that majority of the govs are hugely underperforming in the area of security.
Re: Fix Oyo First – Presidency Tackles Makinde Over Attack On Tinubu by happney65: 4:13pm On May 30
Lithiumite:
The article you posted quoted that vehicles were given to amotekun and other security agencies.....lets even agree without conceding, is it only buying vehicles......why are you the mouth piece of the oyo givt,let them come out and show us what they have done lets judge......how many amotekun security post are in that village where the incident happened,how many surveillance equipments,how many vehicles?

Security isn't all about buying vehicles,its far beyond that,what's the operational capabilities of the amorekun,can you put them at lar with the rrs in Lagos.......what is the security situation report from amotekun since this incident happened? They are visibly not on ground......the simple truth my friend is that majority of the govs are hugely underperforming in the area of security.
In one breath you will say it isn't about vehicles,in another breath it is about asking what is this and that in the village. You need to be focused one one point and stop beating around

The truth of the matter is that Govornors are just chief security officers of their state on paper. And that is the truth. Even with that,I don't know of other state o,in Oyo the security agencies are well funded and it is in public you should Google it.

Oyo police have gotten more than 300 vehicles since 2019. And a purchase of two helicopters which is currently being assembled at the Airforce in Lagos. You can Google it. Still yet,the Govornor cannot still order the police around. They have to get orders from Abuja. That is what we are saying is wrong

The Govornors are like a Man with no teeth and you give him meats to chop. You want to solve insecurity,give us state police then you can blame the Govornor of any state. But for now,all the Govornors can do is to furnish the national police who still won't take orders from them until from Abuja yet Abuja is currently playing politics with insecurity

P.S. I guess you have forgotten an episode of a police officer in public embarrassing Sanwo Olu and telling him he doesn't take orders from him. He even told him he can't call his boss that he can only give the Govornor his boss number for he Govornor to call his boss and then his boss will call him. Were you not in Nigeria then or you didn't see it?

If such can happen in public do you know which will happen in private? So leave sentiments apart and tell tinubu to do the right thing as that is what can solve insecurity and not this current one we are doing
Re: Fix Oyo First – Presidency Tackles Makinde Over Attack On Tinubu by Lithiumite: 4:50pm On May 30
happney65:
In one breath you will say it isn't about vehicles,in another breath it is about asking what is this and that in the village. You need to be focused one one point and stop beating around

The truth of the matter is that Govornors are just chief security officers of their state on paper. And that is the truth. Even with that,I don't know of other state o,in Oyo the security agencies are well funded and it is in public you should Google it.

Oyo police have gotten more than 300 vehicles since 2019. And a purchase of two helicopters which is currently being assembled at the Airforce in Lagos. You can Google it. Still yet,the Govornor cannot still order the police around. They have to get orders from Abuja. That is what we are saying is wrong

The Govornors are like a Man with no teeth and you give him meats to chop. You want to solve insecurity,give us state police then you can blame the Govornor of any state. But for now,all the Govornors can do is to furnish the national police who still won't take orders from them until from Abuja yet Abuja is currently playing politics with insecurity

P.S. I guess you have forgotten an episode of a police officer in public embarrassing Sanwo Olu and telling him he doesn't take orders from him. He even told him he can't call his boss that he can only give the Govornor his boss number for he Govornor to call his boss and then his boss will call him. Were you not in Nigeria then or you didn't see it?

If such can happen in public do you know which will happen in private? So leave sentiments apart and tell tinubu to do the right thing as that is what can solve insecurity and not this current one we are doing
In your mind are you saying oyo state is well secured whats emergency response time,os ut 300 vehicles you will use for your state police,security is serious business......however, don't get me wrong,I am not saying the oyo incident falls within the purview of the kidnap incident tinubu deserves the blame but you cannot also absolve the govs they deserve to be blamed too.
Re: Fix Oyo First – Presidency Tackles Makinde Over Attack On Tinubu by happney65: 5:00pm On May 30
Lithiumite:
In your mind are you saying oyo state is well secured whats emergency response time,os ut 300 vehicles you will use for your state police,security is serious business......however, don't get me wrong,I am not saying the oyo incident falls within the purview of the kidnap incident tinubu deserves the blame but you cannot also absolve the govs they deserve to be blamed too.
300 vehicles is a good start. Vehicles fully fitted with communication gadgets ni o.
Before now they didn't have anything working. Coupled with Amotekun is over 500 with two helicopters just purchased to arrive in June

Even with the impediments of the constitution,Oyo is doing well. It is still better than none. With no state policing Seyi and late Akeredolu tried to set up Amotekun to help pending the time state police will be granted. It is so simple. You are talking as if nothing is being done at all yet they are still incapticated. They can't buy AK7's or better ammunitions. Malami didn't even want Amotekun at all. They dragged it back and forth

Which region in Nigeria as a sort of mini state police like the SW yet you are saying this and that. Let tinubu do the right thing and give state policing. That is what will solve insecurity . People will leave any state that is not secure and the blame for insecurity will be on the steps of the Govornor. Not these ones they are just figureheads chief security officers
Re: Fix Oyo First – Presidency Tackles Makinde Over Attack On Tinubu by Lithiumite: 6:31pm On May 30
happney65:
300 vehicles is a good start. Vehicles fully fitted with communication gadgets ni o.
Before now they didn't have anything working. Coupled with Amotekun is over 500 with two helicopters just purchased to arrive in June

Even with the impediments of the constitution,Oyo is doing well. It is still better than none. With no state policing Seyi and late Akeredolu tried to set up Amotekun to help pending the time state police will be granted. It is so simple. You are talking as if nothing is being done at all yet they are still incapticated. They can't buy AK7's or better ammunitions. Malami didn't even want Amotekun at all. They dragged it back and forth

Which region in Nigeria as a sort of mini state police like the SW yet you are saying this and that. Let tinubu do the right thing and give state policing. That is what will solve insecurity . People will leave any state that is not secure and the blame for insecurity will be on the steps of the Govornor. Not these ones they are just figureheads chief security officers
You will get your state police certainly we all want it but that cant be before the next election because the logistics and administrative chaos will be a disaster......you need an enabling framework to effectively set up law enforcement units in a state and you need funding,even if you claim oyo is capable, several other states arent,the fg needs to find a way to balance this out and thats no easy task that can be enabled by mere presidential Fiat.
Re: Fix Oyo First – Presidency Tackles Makinde Over Attack On Tinubu by happney65: 7:26pm On May 30
Lithiumite:
You will get your state police certainly we all want it but that cant be before the next election because the logistics and administrative chaos will be a disaster......you need an enabling framework to effectively set up law enforcement units in a state and you need funding,even if you claim oyo is capable, several other states arent,the fg needs to find a way to balance this out and thats no easy task that can be enabled by mere presidential Fiat.
The FG is just footdragging and it is all because of politics. Everything tinubu wanted to do he has always done so why is this being footdragged? He has the more than majority in the house,all he needed to do is to send the bill to the house and it will be voted and granted and areas where there will be issues will be deliberated on

But almost 4 years in his administration nothing is being done. Trump might be a crazy fellow,but he is pushing forward to his agendas and plans 100 percent without being bothered about who's ox is gored

So what are we saying? It is all because the president isn't serious and does not want to offend the North while playing politics with human lives.

A whole 4years doing nothing when it is first term they tend to try and do things while their second term for most is majorly for frivolities
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