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Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by tanigororo: 5:16am On Jun 03
Gotocourt:
Things fall apart, iran caused all this mess for Lebanon.
Ehen, seeing someone reasoning backward amazes me.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Teymanhenry(f): 5:21am On Jun 03
chatinent:
Israel cannot say NO to Trump.

The Israel today is an American creation. They are nothing without America.

Meanwhile, you seem to invest more time supporting established terrorists. I hardly see you condemn the atrocities down home.. you are more of an Iranian.
Any post condemning Iran is hardly brought to front page. Is this platform controlled by terrorists or terrorist simpertizers?
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Leepeak(m): 5:36am On Jun 03
Wispower:
If Iran catches any of you guys they will roast you like blacksmits do to irons for misleading them with your fake supports that has sent them to 2 thousand years backwards, Israel is never a mate of Iran.Lebanon can testify that nowadays, distance yourselves from terrorists and be free from Israel treatments
Terrorists calling people one too many Americans movie is really affecting you
So Lebanon na terrorists
Iran na terrorists
Then enter the war and see how Hollywood movies be
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by educatedfool: 5:45am On Jun 03
ponziponzi:
US is the father, without their backing, how will the state of Isreal survive. They don’t even have their own GNSS, they relay on US GPS. They don’t current operate any domestically produced fighter jets, they are all produced by the US.
No mind him abeg
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by numericalguy(m): 5:47am On Jun 03
ponziponzi:
This is an ignorant statement! There is no doubt that the influence of Jewish communities has grown in recent decades, largely due to the enormous pity and guilt many Western countries carry over the atrocities committed against Jews in the early 1900s. Millions were killed in cold blood across many European countries simply for being Jewish. Even those who did not directly participate did little to stop it.

After WW2, Jews were widely seen as victims and were protected. Many in the older generation still carry that sense of guilt and feel a responsibility to protect them. However, things have been changing recently because of the situation in Gaza. Many young people in the West, who do not share the same historical guilt over what happened to the Jews, are no longer viewing them primarily as victims but increasingly as aggressors, similar to how Russia is viewed in Ukraine.

If this continues, support will likely wane, and their influence in the West may reduce. In fact, this shift is already beginning to happen.
Whatever atrocities carried out on Jews was child's play as compared to what blacks face in the hands of the whites for over 400 years yet there is no single guilt for the black race and even till this day, many blacks in the same America are being racially attacked by the American police and the general American people.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by numericalguy(m): 5:50am On Jun 03
Basicend:
Iran cannot defeat Israel in a war currently. Even if the US backs off.

The consequence of such a war will be a serious mess and destruction of most of the entire region. Both countries have prepared many years for this.

Israel have an option of last resort.
Which will be very babaric. And Iran will rush ballistic missiles at them too.

It's not funny.
The bolded is the result of When you have been completely brainwashed by Jewish controlled western media.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Demonic01(m): 6:19am On Jun 03
Isreal is nothing without USA, argue with your forefathers and live in denial. ‼️‼️
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Raf4: 6:28am On Jun 03
bewla:
No then let's face Iran without usa
Trump is the reason Israel has not finished the war with Iran yet. Left for Netanyahu, Israel would have obliterated all of the Iran's backbone eg all the oil & gas facilities, seaports, power plants, nuclear facilities, infrastructure and all their sources of economic and military strength. All these are within the reach of Israel, already having unhindered access to Iran's airspace, but Trump is blocking majority of this. Both US and Israel were actually doing selective bombings in Iran.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by louqas: 6:28am On Jun 03
Basicend:
Unipolar era has officially died. We are welcome to a new Bipolar world order, driven by the American and Chinese trading systems.
Western Puppets finally humbled
They've been warned for decades
What finally shocked them was discovering china silently reducing its US exposure and putting more money into gold reserves knowing the US dollars dominance is coming to an end , the world will still do lots of trade with dollars but now most countries have alternative

I now finally agree Trump knows some art of the deal
See as he humble before Xi , even threw Taiwan under the bus
But I know it's just to save face in November, Once the midterms are over and Trump not going to be on the ballot next election, he will resume the war on Iran, just hope Bibi will also behave sensibly and not do anything that will make US angry with him, though he has many of them in his pockets across both major parties , he still knows they can pull the plug on him
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Reference(m): 6:41am On Jun 03
Well, my interpretation of the end times is that Israel will be abandoned to it's fate and face all it's adversaries completely alone.

And with the way their leaders are going about things this is exactly the scenario they are creating for themselves with their zero sum push.

Trump said it all. They are losing their allies one after the other and 'hate' for that state is growing exponentially.

The only reason why they are not completely surrounded by their Arab neighbors is the Iranian adversity. For as long as the Persian empire remains a threat to them they will tolerate the culling offered by the Jewish state.

The day this dynamic no longer applies is probably the day this world will have lit the fuse to it's end.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Reference(m): 6:56am On Jun 03
louqas:
Western Puppets finally humbled
They've been warned for decades
What finally shocked them was discovering china silently reducing its US exposure and putting more money into gold reserves knowing the US dollars dominance is coming to an end , the world will still do lots of trade with dollars but now most countries have alternative

I now finally agree Trump knows some art of the deal
See as he humble before Xi , even threw Taiwan under the bus
But I know it's just to save face in November, Once the midterms are over and Trump not going to be on the ballot next election, he will resume the war on Iran, just hope Bibi will also behave sensibly and not do anything that will make US angry with him, though he has many of them in his pockets across both major parties , he still knows they can pull the plug on him
Yes, Israel has considerable influence over both the Democrats and the Republicans but this is highly disproportionate.

The Democratic support for Israel is largely along the lines of the Jewish identity, cultural and religious. There are a lot of Jews that identify with the Democratic party, bldescendants of immigrants from conflicts in Europe that settled on the Eastern flank (traditional democratic states) of the US all those years ago.

The Republican support is all that plus the considerable Christian Conservative bloc that dominates middle America. The bloc that is the backbone of the Trump administration. The bloc that the Vice President represents.

Their support for Israel is moderated by their desire to see America out of foreign wars. This is the quandary that Trump is severely testing and if this war drags on Israel risks losing the edge a US Republican government brings.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Iamzik: 7:06am On Jun 03
Kingray10:
I don know what Israel is feeling like.
For God sake it's people they are killing.
And Hezbollah are killing ants right?

I cannot understand how you people sympathise with terrorists so much. No wonder Fulani people are doing rounds all over Nigeria and you people cannot say anything
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Salt06(m): 7:07am On Jun 03
God1000:
A lot of confusion now in the enemies camp, Taco got played by satanyahu and he suddenly woke up
Terrorist Sympathizer. Do u ever see the evil of terrorists?
Ive not seen your comments against the terrorists that kidnapped teachers and kids in oyo state or the killings by evil people in our nation. Your agenda is hatred for Israel.
May evil hearts be exposed
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by geoworldedu: 7:13am On Jun 03
LordIsaac:
Israel can very much say so. America is what it is today because they have been in the camp of the Lord's chosen. They can only appeal to Israel.
Jehovah that's in his spiritual cage or which Lord are you talking about again? undecided
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by bluefilm:
chatinent:
Israel cannot say NO to Trump.

The Israel today is an American creation. They are nothing without America.

Meanwhile, you seem to invest more time supporting established terrorists. I hardly see you condemn the atrocities down home.. you are more of an Iranian.
You're not entirely correct

Israel may be america's creation

But the entire US government is being controlled by Israel now

Think Epstein Files
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Barzinime(m): 7:16am On Jun 03
How are you so different from the people joining Boko-Haram & ISIL? undecided
LordIsaac:
Israel can very much say so. America is what it is today because they have been in the camp of the Lord's chosen. They can only appeal to Israel.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by ElevationD: 7:32am On Jun 03
frankson1:
STOP spreading lies and fake news!

Trump didn't let off Iran. Trump begged and pleaded for a ceasefire. It was the ceasefire that gave the US the opportunity to be at the position they're now after they made attempt to cross the Strait of Homuz without success.

Trump has been calling for a ceasefire extensions.

It won't be shocking if you think Iran is not hurting the US back after destroying military assets worth billions of dollars.

No be everybody be children for here o undecided undecided
No be everybody be children for here, but you just gave yourself off as one.

If you as little as read without bias, the activities of the last five days before the ceasefire, you would have noted and understood that the Iranian infrastructures were finally targeted. You would have read that the Iranian leadership, with their usual cowardly behavior, got women and children to stand behind their critical state infrastructures, to prevent a blow up. You would have heard the very clear threat from the USA and the cry of the Mullahs to the whole world for help to stop the Americans from committing what the evil leadership in Iran and their proxies always term as genocide. Nothing would have been left in Iran if Trump went on the effect the destruction on deadline day. You can talk now because Trump stopped Netanyahu from proceeding to target whatever was left in Iran to destroy and return the Mullahs to the stone age. Netanyahu is the only man on earth who understands the language of terrorists. He would have finished the mullahs off long ago if not for Trump who saved them.

Maybe you do not understand that all wars guarantee mutual destruction, irrespective of the advantage of the stronger nation. That’s why today, Russia suffers losses despite their military advantage over Ukraine. Weapons are built to be used. They are not built for decoration. So you must expect the USA and Israel to suffer losses.

But why don’t you simply compare the economy of the three nations. While Iran suffers huge economic losses, with their economy in shambles, go and study the wartime economy of Israel, not to talk of the USA. As little as the state of Israel is, surrounded by such enemies around, is it not a shame that the enemies are not able to prevail? Rather the enemies suffer losses in the economy and lands taken over by the Israelis.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by correctguy101(m): 7:32am On Jun 03
masterfactor:
A son must respect his father

Israel must respect America because Israel is standing today because of America
Sometimes I feel that's what the Israeli wants everyone to believe and it's a colossal ruse.

That's ever since I started seeing the hand of the Jewish owned BlackRock group in almost all facets of today's industries. They hold controlling stakes in almost everything. See the US congress even, Dem plenty for there...

The shadow controllers are the most fearsome...

They're making it seem the US controls them but they're in fact controlling the US.

That's just my suspicion...

Smh
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by ElevationD: 7:37am On Jun 03
bluefilm:
You're not entirely correct

Israel may be america's creation

But the entire US government is being controlled by Israeal now

Think Epstein Files
Israel IS NOT an American creation. Please go and read the history of the nation of Israel, from the fall of the Ottoman Empire until 1973.

Those Islamic hypocrites who come in social media to display their ignorance must be told the truth always. Until they come to terms with the fact that Israel as a nation must exist, then they cannot find peace. Until they come to terms that they cannot defeat the state of Israel, they cannot find peace. As long as they keep indoctrinating their children and making vampires of them, weaponizing their minds with hatred, they cannot find peace.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by ElevationD:
correctguy101:
Sometimes I feel that's what the Israeli wants everyone to believe and it's a colossal ruse.

That's ever since I started seeing the hand of the Jewish owned BlackRock group in almost all facets of today's industries. They hold controlling stakes in almost everything. See the US congress even, Dem plenty for there...

The shadow controllers are the most fearsome...

They're making it seem the US controls them but they're in fact controlling the US.

That's just my suspicion...

Smh
America is a country of migrants. A very close look at the industries and names, show you Israeli names. You cannot wipe Israel away from America. Silicon Valley and a huge percentage of American organizations have Israeli imprints. That’s what the Muslims are trying to erase, starting with the likes of the mayor of New York and the Somali democratic lady.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by bluefilm: 8:07am On Jun 03
ElevationD:
Israel IS NOT an American creation. Please go and read the history of the nation of Israel, from the fall of the Ottoman Empire until 1973.

Those Islamic hypocrites who come in social media to display their ignorance must be told the truth always. Until they come to terms with the fact that Israel as a nation must exist, then they cannot find peace. Until they come to terms that they cannot defeat the state of Israel, they cannot find peace. As long as they keep indoctrinating their children and making vampires of them, weaponizing their minds with hatred, they cannot find peace.
I think you're the one missing it

No one is saying that Israel must not exist

What people are trying to say is that existence of Israel should not lead to the total extermination of Palestine and Palestinians

So don't it get twisted
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by bewla(m): 8:14am On Jun 03
Wispower:
Don't let Iran hear this from your gaulible mouth
gullible what huh??


Iran is my state to
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by Originalsly: 8:24am On Jun 03
The man is right... Netanyahu can say no to Trump ... but he wouldn't in public. He knows the American public is against him and saying no publicly will just escalate the hatred. Israel will do what it wants to do ... and the US will do what Israel wants it to do. Of course those who don't understand how Israel controls the US will disagree. Bomb Beirut.... a civilian center... a war crime... they're not even trying to give a reason to justify the bombing... as in terrorist cells are scattered in Beirut ... it's all about mayhem... destruction and maximum casualties. If we understand what exactly the Zionists mean when they say they are "the Chosen People"... we will understand their actions. They say they are "the Chosen People"... and sooo many of the dumb Christians support them saying they're "God's Chosen People". That's not what the Zionists ever say. The Zionists are Satanists ... "the Chosen People" means chosen by Satan. All other people they do not consider humans ... the reason they are sooo inhumane. Trump knows what would be his fate if he only try to block Israel from doing what it wants to do
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by ElevationD: 8:36am On Jun 03
bluefilm:
I think you're the one missing it

No one is saying that Israel must not exist

What people are trying to say is that existence of Israel should not lead to the total extermination of Palestine and Palestinians

So don't it get twisted
You all get it twisted as you fail to read history. Reading with understanding helps. Reading without bias helps.

Ask yourself and the same others if the Palestinians want Israel to exist. Meet every Palestinian living in Gaza and ask them what they want about Israel. It’s only one word, death. If they do not ask for the extermination of Israel, they tell you that they want the Israelis removed from that area. Ask them where they want the Israelis to go, they say anywhere, but just leave that area.

For your information, the two state solution has come up several times, absolutely consented to by the Israelis. The Palestinians have failed to agree. Their leaders have always refused. The leaders simply like wars and violence. That’s what, along with Shariah, that they use to suppress and deceive their people.

I wonder how some of you just follow the crowd without reading. The stock in trade of the Palestinians is propaganda. They kill first and shout genocide when the Israelis respond.

There was absolutely no need by Hamas to invade Israel in 2024. They were already progressing towards an agreement. But the intolerance of Iran would not let them. Seeing that Saudi Arabia was on the edge of coming to agreement with Israel, they made that wrong move. Today, it is genocide and people have forgotten that Hamas invaded a country and killed close to 1,500 people for nothing. So the Mullahs and their proxies have their propaganda advantage, the Israelis work hard to protect themselves and their nation.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by udemzyudex(m): 8:44am On Jun 03
Kingray10:
I don know what Israel is feeling like.
For God sake it's people they are killing.
You expect them to watch and allow these people kill them first just like they did in October 7? You think Israeli government is like your government here?

They'll never allow October 7 repeat itself again.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by engrchykae(m): 9:21am On Jun 03
chatinent:
Israel cannot say NO to Trump.

The Israel today is an American creation. They are nothing without America.

Meanwhile, you seem to invest more time supporting established terrorists. I hardly see you condemn the atrocities down home.. you are more of an Iranian.
Israel was created in1948 by the British mandate for Palestine.
They started pushing for it by Theodore Herzl almost immediately the British won the Ottoman Turk in WW1.

It was a British creation, USA inherited it.
But Israel can go overdrive sometimes against USA.
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by engrchykae(m): 9:21am On Jun 03
chatinent:
Israel cannot say NO to Trump.

The Israel today is an American creation. They are nothing without America.

Meanwhile, you seem to invest more time supporting established terrorists. I hardly see you condemn the atrocities down home.. you are more of an Iranian.
Israel was created in1948 by the British mandate for Palestine.
They started pushing for it by Theodore Herzl almost immediately the British won the Ottoman Turk in WW1.

It was a British creation, USA inherited it.
But Israel can go overdrive sometimes against USA.
...
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by engrchykae(m): 9:21am On Jun 03
chatinent:
Israel cannot say NO to Trump.

The Israel today is an American creation. They are nothing without America.

Meanwhile, you seem to invest more time supporting established terrorists. I hardly see you condemn the atrocities down home.. you are more of an Iranian.
Israel was created in1948 by the British mandate for Palestine.
They started pushing for it by Theodore Herzl almost immediately the British won the Ottoman Turk in WW1.

It was a British creation, USA inherited it.
But Israel can go overdrive sometimes against USA. .....
...
Re: Time To Say No To Trump: Ben Gvir Urges Netanyahu Over Beirut Strike Call-off by MrGerald(m): 9:29am On Jun 03
BarrElChapo:
Say no to Trump. The day the US turns it back on Israel, they become common in every sense.
It'll never happen, all these happening is written and they're divine.
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