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LordIsaac:
Israel can very much say so. America is what it is today because they have been in the camp of the Lord's chosen. They can only appeal to Israel.

Your comment is filled with ignorance...

America feeds Israel both economically and militarily, una go just open mouth waaaaa...

A 5 year old kid knows Israel CANNOT survive without America, after una go claim sey una go school...

https://www.cfr.org/articles/us-aid-israel-four-charts

ElevationD:
America is a country if migrants. A very close look at the industries and names, show you Israeli names. You cannot wipe Israel away from America. Silicon Valley and a huge percentage of American organizations have Israeli imprints. That’s what the Muslims are trying to erase, starting with the likes of the mayor of New York and the Somali democratic lady.

Extremely difficult to achieve the bolded....

These guys were long prepared and even in the Muslim circles, they probably have mossad agents everywhere...

Or how else Hamas would switch to pagers all of a sudden for security reasons, the pagers were used to attack them?

KingOfAmebo:
Your comment is filled with ignorance...

America feeds Israel both economically and militarily, una go just open mouth waaaaa...

A 5 year old kid knows Israel CANNOT survive without America, after una go claim sey una go school...

https://www.cfr.org/articles/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Your ignorance reeks of the fact that you do not know about the covenant God made with Abraham. For your information, God created the designers of the nuclear weapons.

correctguy101:
Extremely difficult to achieve the bolded....

These guys were long prepared and even in the Muslim circles, they probably have mossad agents everywhere...

Or how else Hamas would switch to pagers all of a sudden for security reasons, the pagers were used to attack them?

Tiny as they are, the imprints of the Israelis are all over technological developments in the whole world. Nothing flies past without the Israelis noticing. They are much more advanced than all the nations in the Middle East put together.

LordIsaac:
Your ignorance reeks of the fact that you do not the covenant God made with Abraham. For your information, God created the designers of the nuclear weapons.

You just proved you lack wisdom...So, God created Israel that was created in 1948 (a Synagogue of Satan created by men)...

It is obvious you read your Bible upside down...

Are you saying if Israel is God's Chosen people like you ignorantly believe then YOU and your FAMILY and the rest of the world are Devils chosen...

Na which kind brain una take dey think sef?...

GeneralOuki:
They don't fund IDF budget, at least not in the way you think they do. And it's not because if of funding that made Israel stop producing their own fighter jets, the reason why they pressured Israel was because the Lavi was a direct competitor to the US jets .

IDF budget in a year is $30 billion, US military aid to Israel is just $3.6b, so tell me how they're funding IDF? Besides, the US military aid to Israel is not in cash transfer but a grant that Israel must spend within the US military complex. Not a single bit of that $3.6b leaves US shores. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

They will not need any US technology or supply, they built the Lavi which rivaled the F-16 without any US technology or supply or anything.

The F-35 is a product of Lockheed yes, but it's being co produced with Israel and other NATO countries, Israel just has an exclusive right to modify their version and theirs is not like the regular F-35s being produced by Lockheed. This is a very open knowledge my guy, try read more on this things.

Lol... You're not well versed on this subject, no doubt. Israel doesn't need US for everything. The entire US aid to Israel is less than 10% of Israel's annual budget. Their existence has never depended on the US support, this is the misconceptions that anti Israel people make, they erroneously think that without US the state of Israel will cease to exist, that's an ignorant thing to believe.

Their economy is self sufficient, they don't need the US, they produce so many military hardwares which are sort after by many European and Asian countries. They're very technologically advanced, you have to be to be able to develop the defence systems that they use, be able to modify the f-35 etc. Go and read up on the indigenous technologies produced in Israel. Go and take a look at their desalination technology which is the best in the world.

I don't have the strength for this pen.is swinging contest.

Just know that most Israeli technology depends on US IP and technology. Their entire semiconductor industry is US-based, and even when it's not directly US, they depend on US tools and IP. Even their almighty Iron Dome is heavily dependent on US technology. Most of their tech companies also rely heavily on money from the US, like Wall Street.

The US defense budget is more than $1 trillion, so what's $30 billion/year? Funding the IDF isn't just about giving money or weapons alone. A lot of the technology comes from what the US has developed because of their enormous R& investment. All this myth that Israel is an island, that they're some kind of superhuman with super intelligence who can do anything, is just bullshit. They are a regional military power propped up by a global superpower's supply chain. Without US tools, IP, and spare parts, their high-tech military grinds to a halt. They know this, that is which is why they are desperately trying to lock in the relationship permanently, not walk away from it, and they shouldn't.

Kingson28:
You're very ignorant. Let Israel fire missiles indiscriminately at Iran just as Iran did and watch all Iran go up in flames within a week. Iran that has no active missiles defence systems presently

You are very "stew-pidd". Are you not aware of the land mass of Iran relative to that of Israel. And that if Iran fires multiple drone, missiles, IBMs etc targeted only at Israel, that Israel's Iron Dome will be completely overwhelmed. Apart from that, do you not know that the Iron Dome has a 90% success rate; meaning that if 3000 missiles and IDM are fired at Israel, at least, 300 missiles and IDMs will penetrate the Israeli air defense system and that number is way too much for a country as small as Israel.

And for your information, I am pro-Israel, but we have to call a spade a spade. Israel should be grateful to Donald Trump, and she should not over-stretch her luck.

[quote author=Breaker001 post=139608991]You are very "stew-pidd". Are you not aware of the land mass of Iran relative to that of Israel. And that if Iran fires multiple drone, missiles, IBMs etc targeted only at Israel, that Israel's Iron Dome will be completely overwhelmed. Apart from that, do you not know that the Iron Dome has a 90% success rate; meaning that if 3000 missiles and IDM are fired at Israel, at least, 300 missiles and IDMs will penetrate the Israeli air defense system and that number is way too much for a country as small as Israel.

And for your information, I am pro-Israel, but we have to call a spade a spade. Israel should be grateful to Donald Trump, and she should not over-stretch her luck.


[I don't argue with individuals who are so uncouth and unrefined as to call someone they don't know whether he is old enough to father them 'stew-pidd'. It shows their low morals.]

ponziponzi:
I don't have the strength for this pen.is swinging contest.

Just know that most Israeli technology depends on US IP and technology. Their entire semiconductor industry is US-based, and even when it's not directly US, they depend on US tools and IP. Even their almighty Iron Dome is heavily dependent on US technology. Most of their tech companies also rely heavily on money from the US, like Wall Street.

The US defense budget is more than $1 trillion, so what's $30 billion/year? Funding the IDF isn't just about giving money or weapons alone. A lot of the technology comes from what the US has developed because of their enormous R& investment. All this myth that Israel is an island, that they're some kind of superhuman with super intelligence who can do anything, is just bullshit. They are a regional military power propped up by a global superpower's supply chain. Without US tools, IP, and spare parts, their high-tech military grinds to a halt. They know this, that is which is why they are desperately trying to lock in the relationship permanently, not walk away from it, and they shouldn't.

Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about, you're just spitting out Popular talk points without understanding what they really mean and how they apply with US and Israel partnership. The iron dome was conceived, developed and originally produced entirely by Israel, The Iron Dome was born out of a direct Israeli need after the 2006 Lebanon War, against the advice of the U.S. at the time. It was developed by Israel's Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, with the radar from Elta and the command and control from mPrest. A former manager of the project stated clearly in a 2021 interview, "The US didn't have anything to do with the technology of the Iron Dome; Israel developed the whole thing on its own."

While the R& D was Israeli, scaling up mass production of the interceptor missiles (Tamir) was extremely expensive. The 2016 U.S/ Israel Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) provided the critical strategic top-up.

To access those U.S. funds, Israel had to agree to a co-production model. This means a significant portion of the Tamir interceptor missiles are now manufactured in the United States. In 2020, Rafael and the American defense contractor Raytheon (now RTX) formalized a joint venture called R2S in the U.S. to manufacture the Iron Dome weapon system (the interceptor and launcher) for the U.S. Marine Corps and, crucially, for Israel itself. This makes the supply chain heavily dependent on the U.S., even if the technology isn't.

The US doesn't give Israel $30b in funding my guy. That's Israel's own annual budget, what the US gives them in exchange of partnership and intelligence sharing is just $3b which is entirely spent on American tech in the US. Go and read about these things and stop sounding ignorant.

Israel is not entirely dependent on US both economically and tech wise, you've obviously been listening to ignorant tiktok influencers or podcasters who spew nonsense after nonsense to those with very little understanding of how these things work. You have a mobile device, use it and educate yourself on this matter my guy.

Kingson28:
[I don't argue with individuals who are so uncouth and unrefined as to call someone they don't know whether he is old enough to father them 'stew-pidd'. It shows their low morals.

You don't need to argue. Sometimes, all that is required is to make you see your folly, is to make you have a taste of you own pill.

You think you are refined, yet you were not intelligent enough to know that you don't get involved in a public discussion with someone you don't even know with the words "you're very ignorant..."
Look at what you came up with, at your first attempt to join a public discussion 👇👇

Kingson28:
You're very ignorant. Let Israel fire missiles indiscriminately at Iran just as Iran did and watch all Iran go up in flames within a week. Iran that has no active missiles defence systems presently.

If you will be sincere to yourself, Is the above statement an indication of how low your morals is?
My response to you was intentional, to enable you realize that you don't speak to people that way in a public space I hope you learn from this. Take good care of yourself 😎

[quote author=Breaker001 post=139613585]You don't need to argue. Sometimes, all that is required is to make you see your folly, is to make you have a taste of you own pill.

You think you are refined, yet you were not intelligent enough to know that you don't get involved in a public discussion with someone you don't even know with the words "you're very ignorant..."
Look at what you came up with, at your first attempt to join a public discussion 👇👇



If you will be sincere to yourself, Is the above statement an indication of how low your morals is?
My response to you was intentional, to enable you realize that you don't speak to people that way in a public space I hope you learn from this. Take good care of yourself 😎


[So, you chose to descend into gutters to get back at perceived insult? You must be so 'refined' indeed. Bye. ]

Kingson28:
So, you chose to descend into gutters to get back at perceived insult? You must be so 'refined' indeed. Bye.

There are people that can never be brought out from the gutters except one descends into the gutter. It was supper necessary.
And from all indications it seems you are not yet aware that you have been brought out. 😎


And by the way, it seems "you're very ignorant" on how to quote people on this platform. I could help you to learn if you will show some humility 😛

[quote author=Breaker001 post=139618636]There are people that can never be brought out from the gutters except one descends into the gutter. It was supper necessary.
And from all indications it seems you are not yet aware that you have been brought out. 😎


And by the way, it seems "you're very ignorant" on how to quote people on this platform. I could help you to learn if you will show some humility 😛


[I don't do gutter banter with gutter people. And yes, I don't take being called "very ignorant" as an insult like some 'refined' folks do. Sorry, I don't need you to teach me how to quote, lest you teach me gutter stuff. Thanks. ]

Kingson28:
I don't take being called "very ignorant" as an insult like some 'refined' folks do

You don't take calling someone you barely know and have never met "very ignorant".
And you think the world revolves around what you take or don't take?

Of a truth, you are more "stew-pidd" than I ever thought. "Very ignorant" fellow 😎

[quote author=Breaker001 post=139634249]You don't take calling someone you barely know and have never met "very ignorant".
And you think the world revolves around what you take or don't take?

Of a truth, you are more "stew-pidd" than I ever thought. "Very ignorant" fellow 😎


[Thanks for calling me stewpidd. It is very difficult to make someone of poor upbringing to act civilized and cultured. May you find the help you seriously and urgently need.]