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Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by geoworldedu: 7:51am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
Meaning what exactly?
Even a slow person knows that Trump would have bombed Iran to the stone ages but for checks and balances inherent in the American system, that don't exist in Russia.

This below is exactly what Trump would have done (and IRGC putting women and children would not have stopped him)
And you think Putin couldn't have bombed Ukraine to stone age? Dey play.
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by PepeXKermit: 7:56am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
Putin emphatically CAN'T! Unlike Iran, Ukraine has serious air defense system, navy, airforce, and dollars
You must be a dreamer.. who gave ukraine airdefense?
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by frankson1(m): 8:04am On Jun 04
SpaceX:
remember iran currently has no leadership, no air force, no air defense and limited access of their navy. They are on life support and Netanyahu(SAW) is ever ready to finish the job.
Iran is on a life support and trump has been begging for a ceasefire cheesy

Iran is on a life support and trump still can't cross the strait of Hormuz cheesy


Ogbeni, not everyone here is mentally lazy undecided
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Caseless: 8:08am On Jun 04
madridguy:
grin grin grin

Another joke from a toddler as usual.
They don't think.
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Caseless: 8:09am On Jun 04
Obedience40:
You certainly don't have any iota of idea on how the US government works!!..

Hope you know that there's a huge distinction between the US House and the US Senate!!😂

For such resolution to be binding it has to pass through the US Senate!! The House resolution will still needs approval from the Republican-controlled US Senate

Potus Trump also has within his presidential powers to veto the measure!!!!

Even if the resolution were to pass through the Senate which is impossible, considering the hardliners trump circles in the Republicans are currently domicile there.. the constitution gives the president the right to allow him use the military for a limited number of days!!!

This is a mere rebuke nothing else!!
They're the ones begging for a ceasefire, what does that tell you?
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Caseless: 8:18am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
Well now, Ayatollah and his entire family and all Iranian top echelons and all their potential successors also got wiped off
where the fools who started this war got it wrong. They're stronger than they were before those people were killed. They're still fighting and holding strait of Hormuz.

I just feel embarrassed seeing a kid who's probably into fraud or praying for American visa mocking Iran that's fighting 2 of the strongest militaries in the world, while your country cannot even generate electricity. You can't even chase bandits, let alone fighting a war. You should learn from iran instead of mocking them. Religious bigotry should not blind you to extreme idiocy - read and learn.

Be ashamed of yourself.
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by UrVillageChief: 8:21am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
If Trump were a dictator like Putin Iran would have long ceased to exist as a we know it.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5908560-iran-war-resolution-house/
…and this is unfortunately the reason why I hate democracy and the reason why terrorism hardly thrives in places governed by dictators. Yes, Islamic terrorism can’t survive in Russia and China. What China did to Islam can not be replicated in the US all because of all these yeye democratic system. China restricts Islam and banned Islamic things like the name Mohammad, Ramadan, Mosques and open practice of the religion in a bid to arrest terrorism, can the US replicate same? No and this is because democracy is a stupid system of government where a leader is not given the maximum freedom and will to do what he thinks is right (though, this is because Trump is a weakling because a positively crazy President would still find a way to have his way and teach these terrorists a lesson) I miss people like the Bush family, the US has unfortunately turned into a country that protects and negotiates with terrorists.
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by masterfactor(m): 8:35am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
No mind am. All Iranian leadership are dead. Almost all their military gone. Infrastructure destroyed, plus some 4000 Iranians dead - and he's here carping nonsense
Is Iran still standing or not, Yes or No. Mr know it all
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by SonofElElyonRet: 8:36am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
If Trump were a dictator like Putin Iran would have long ceased to exist as a we know it.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5908560-iran-war-resolution-house/
Still needs the Senate to agree .. and even if this happens, Trump will veto it so makes no difference grin
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Rayjnr: 8:38am On Jun 04
Safe to say the USA lost the war, Iran won
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by masterfactor(m): 8:45am On Jun 04
One thing to understand about some USA and Israel supporters here on Nairaland:

Some are pushing narratives because they benefit from it.

Some reduce everything to a Christian vs Muslim issue.

But history, in my view, has often shown that Iran is not usually the side that fires the first shot.
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Watcharena: 8:56am On Jun 04
But Ukraine is exiting and their comedians president is still alive

Abeg tell me something more slavish
QuinQ:
If Trump were a dictator like Putin Iran would have long ceased to exist as a we know it.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5908560-iran-war-resolution-house/
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Neoteny(m): 8:57am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
Meaning what exactly?
Even a slow person knows that Trump would have bombed Iran to the stone ages but for checks and balances inherent in the American system, that don't exist in Russia.

This below is exactly what Trump would have done (and IRGC putting women and children would not have stopped him)
You know what would have stopped him?

Reality.

First, their munitions are largely depleted from the 1st go without much impact on Iran's missiles and drones. Some of these munitions can take a couple of years to replenish, meaning the US is at a strategic disadvantage.

Second, the disruption to global oil supply is seriously hurting the world's economy, especially some Asian allies of the US. Also, the US strategic petroleum reserve is being depleted at an alarming rate.

Third, Iran can cause significant damage to neighboring Gulf countries which would expand the war, further erode oil supply, weaken the dollar, and worsen the global economic situation.

Fourth, each day costs the US hundreds of millions to maintain strikes, the armada, munitions, and provides China an open window to US military strategy. Also, every day that carrier strike groups are around the Arabian Sea is another day without US deterrence elsewhere such as around Asia.

Fifth, the war is deeply unpopular in the US and is likely to cause the GOP significantly in the looming midterms, especially with the low approval rating of the president. The cost of living is rising for average Americans who voted for Trump because of lower costs of living.

Sixth, Trump, despite his outward bravado, is not really apathetic to mass murder. His legacy matters to him as a Greatest President ever and doesn't want the specter of George Bush's legacy tarnishing his cultivated image. He'd rather be known for "deals" than death and destruction.

So yeah, reality about the war's cost, both materially and otherwise, put a damper on how far Trump can go. They clearly overestimated air superiority and underestimated the Iranian resolve for scotched earth warfare and resilience.
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by malware: 9:16am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
If Trump were a dictator like Putin Iran would have long ceased to exist as a we know it.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5908560-iran-war-resolution-house/
The same way Ukraine ceases to exist abi? The same way Putin killed Supreme Leader Zelensky right?
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by ocelot2006(m): 9:39am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
If Trump were a dictator like Putin Iran would have long ceased to exist as a we know it.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5908560-iran-war-resolution-house/
Two nuclear powers (one, a superpower) threw everything they had (except nukes) against Iran, yet Iran not only survived, but fought back STUBBORNLY and still STANDS. 'ever heard of the Honey Badger?
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Emeskhalifa(m): 9:48am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
How can you be tired of war that was never even declared while your economy is booming and you've lost only 13 people total (civilians and soldiers)?
Yet Iranians have never for once called for ceasefire. In fact, yesterday they fired at America's ship cheesy
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by QuinQ(op): 10:08am On Jun 04
UrVillageChief:
…and this is unfortunately the reason why I hate democracy and the reason why terrorism hardly thrives in places governed by dictators. Yes, Islamic terrorism can’t survive in Russia and China. What China did to Islam can not be replicated in the US all because of all these yeye democratic system. China restricts Islam and banned Islamic things like the name Mohammad, Ramadan, Mosques and open practice of the religion in a bid to arrest terrorism, can the US replicate same? No and this is because democracy is a stupid system of government where a leader is not given the maximum freedom and will to do what he thinks is right (though, this is because Trump is a weakling because a positively crazy President would still find a way to have his way and teach these terrorists a lesson) I miss people like the Bush family, the US has unfortunately turned into a country that protects and negotiates with terrorists.
Exactly
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by dru23(m): 10:10am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
You pay higher for fuel doesn't mean the economy is not booming. See below
Meanwhile Iran is in TOTAL depression and super hyper inflation
People are spending more on fuel than on food. Groceries prices are also high due to the cost of fuel. Whatever GB chat is telling is a total nonsense..

People are spending at least $200 more monthly on fuel than before. So people will have to cut down in other areas .

People will cut down on going out to restaurants , movies etc this will eventually create a gap


iran will be fine. Keep in mind Iran has been under sanctioned for years and they managed to survive. Iran still controls the strait of Hormuz and their is nothing the USA can do about it. So far this war has cost the USA billions of dollars. Who is going to pay for it ...

The US based region that are destroyed who is going to pay for that damage. And what is the US getting in return... This was senseless war that had no exit strategy. All the stock piles missiles that were used to defend the gulf region has been used up ...

Imagine two super countries couldn't handle Iran . This is two against one. Do you think this is a fair fight. The only way the US can win this war is to use nuclear weapons, which of coz will never happen coz it will lead to WW3.

Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by QuinQ(op): 10:13am On Jun 04
Watcharena:
But Ukraine is exiting and their comedians president is still alive

Abeg tell me something more slavish
malware:
The same way Ukraine ceases to exist abi? The same way Putin killed Supreme Leader Zelensky right?
That's the point. Don't compare US to Russia. If US were in Russia and fighting Ukraine and had a dictatorship, Ukraine would have become part of US long ago
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by malakaimoscondo: 10:16am On Jun 04
Obedience40:
You certainly don't have any iota of idea on how the US government works!!..

Hope you know that there's a huge distinction between the US House and the US Senate!!😂

For such resolution to be binding it has to pass through the US Senate!! The House resolution will still needs approval from the Republican-controlled US Senate

Potus Trump also has within his presidential powers to veto the measure!!!!

Even if the resolution were to pass through the Senate which is impossible, considering the hardliners trump circles in the Republicans are currently domicile there.. the constitution gives the president the right to allow him use the military for a limited number of days!!!

This is a mere rebuke nothing else!!
u don't know how the US government work.... either..forget about hardline support the president enjoys from Senate...vis a vis GOPs........if the both houses past resolution to end the war..and the voting is not overwhelmingly of tow third majority.the president can vetoed it..cos he has vetoed power.but for four Republican to join force with demos to pass the resolution in reps it means d war is no longer popular
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by QuinQ(op): 10:23am On Jun 04
educatedfool:
Ayatollah is 35 years yonger now grin
And is constantly hospitalized and dare not be seen in public
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by QuinQ(op):
Emeskhalifa:
Yet Iranians have never for once called for ceasefire. In fact, yesterday they fired at America's ship cheesy
Caseless:
where the fools who started this war got it wrong. They're stronger than they were before those people were killed. They're still fighting and holding strait of Hormuz.

I just feel embarrassed seeing a kid who's probably into fraud or praying for American visa mocking Iran that's fighting 2 of the strongest militaries in the world, while your country cannot even generate electricity. You can't even chase bandits, let alone fighting a war. You should learn from iran instead of mocking them. Religious bigotry should not blind you to extreme idiocy - read and learn.

Be ashamed of yourself.
masterfactor:
Is Iran still standing or not, Yes or No. Mr know it all
Firstcitizen:
grin grin grin American movies don kpai this one skull
Rayjnr:
Safe to say the USA lost the war, Iran won
Caseless:
They're the ones begging for a ceasefire, what does that tell you?
frankson1:
Iran is on a life support and trump has been begging for a ceasefire cheesy

Iran is on a life support and trump still can't cross the strait of Hormuz cheesy


Ogbeni, not everyone here is mentally lazy undecided
PepeXKermit:
You must be a dreamer.. who gave ukraine airdefense?
geoworldedu:
And you think Putin couldn't have bombed Ukraine to stone age? Dey play.
ocelot2006:
Two nuclear powers (one, a superpower) threw everything they had (except nukes) against Iran, yet Iran not only survived, but fought back STUBBORNLY and still STANDS. 'ever heard of the Honey Badger?
Watcharena:
But Ukraine is exiting and their comedians president is still alive

Abeg tell me something more slavish
malware:
The same way Ukraine ceases to exist abi? The same way Putin killed Supreme Leader Zelensky right?
Honestey:
This is retreat! retreat!! Iran is too stubborn,! retreat!!!
Iran is NOT fighting any war. Iran has NOTHING that can stop American carpet bombing!
US is not even in a war! America is NOT in a war unless Congress declares it. A war is someone comes to bomb you and you shoot them down like Ukraine does! See below.
So please how is Iran FIGHTING a war? Their answer to threat of carpet bombing by Trump is to put civilians on bridges and infrastructure!😅

There is no one "Iran" to ask for a ceasefire. Some "Iran" has definitely asked for and desperately wants a ceasefire while some IRGC would rather die.
Bottom line, US can easily destroy Iran if they wanted and there's nothing Iran can do to stop it!

Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by masterfactor(m): 10:40am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
Thrr is no one that is "Iran". Some "Iran" has definitely asked for and desperately wants ceasefire.










Iran is NOT fighting any war. Iran has NOTHING that can stop American carpet bombing! US is not even in a war! America is NOT in a war unless Congress declares it. A war is someone comes to bomb you and you shoot them down like Uktaine does! See below
So please how is Iran FIGHTING a war? Their answer to threat of carpet bombing by Trump is to put civilians on bridges and infrastructure!😅
Coming from someone who doesn't pay TAX to the American Government.
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Honestey: 10:42am On Jun 04
This is retreat! retreat!! Iran is too stubborn,! retreat!!!
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by QuinQ(op): 10:52am On Jun 04
Neoteny:
You know what would have stopped him?

Reality.

First, their munitions are largely depleted from the 1st go without much impact on Iran's missiles and drones. Some of these munitions can take a couple of years to replenish, meaning the US is at a strategic disadvantage.

Second, the disruption to global oil supply is seriously hurting the world's economy, especially some Asian allies of the US. Also, the US strategic petroleum reserve is being depleted at an alarming rate.

Third, Iran can cause significant damage to neighboring Gulf countries which would expand the war, further erode oil supply, weaken the dollar, and worsen the global economic situation.

Fourth, each day costs the US hundreds of millions to maintain strikes, the armada, munitions, and provides China an open window to US military strategy. Also, every day that carrier strike groups are around the Arabian Sea is another day without US deterrence elsewhere such as around Asia.

Fifth, the war is deeply unpopular in the US and is likely to cause the GOP significantly in the looming midterms, especially with the low approval rating of the president. The cost of living is rising for average Americans who voted for Trump because of lower costs of living.

Sixth, Trump, despite his outward bravado, is not really apathetic to mass murder. His legacy matters to him as a Greatest President ever and doesn't want the specter of George Bush's legacy tarnishing his cultivated image. He'd rather be known for "deals" than death and destruction.

So yeah, reality about the war's cost, both materially and otherwise, put a damper on how far Trump can go. They clearly overestimated air superiority and underestimated the Iranian resolve for scotched earth warfare and resilience.
You were adked a simple question: if US had a DICTATOR willing to bomb Iran to the stone ages (non-nuclear bombs), is there anything Iran can do to stop it?
That's the question
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by QuinQ(op): 10:53am On Jun 04
masterfactor:
Coming from someone who doesn't pay TAX to the American Government.
Doesn’t matter. I can THINK, unlike some people
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by masterfactor(m): 11:01am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
Doesn’t matter. I can THINK, unlike some people
You don't think, you want this war to go on for your amusement.

The United States of America are against the war because of the adverse effect it has on the country. I guess you don't fuel your car.
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Emeskhalifa(m): 11:01am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
Iran is NOT fighting any war. Iran has NOTHING that can stop American carpet bombing! US is not even in a war! America is NOT in a war unless Congress declares it. A war is someone comes to bomb you and you shoot them down like Ukraine does! See below
So please how is Iran FIGHTING a war? Their answer to threat of carpet bombing by Trump is to put civilians on bridges and infrastructure!😅

There is no one "Iran" to ask for a ceasefire. Some "Iran" has definitely asked for and desperately wants a ceasefire while some IRGC would rather die.
Bottom line, US can easily destroy Iran if they wanted and there's nothing Iran can do to stop it!
I believe you, just like Russia can destroy Ukraine by 'carpet bombing' them if they so wish to, but chose to keep playing hide and seek with Ukraine.

Same thing with China, they too can carpet bomb Taiwan anyday and anytime they wish to


Baba is still high on 24 hours by Jack Bauer grin
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Obedience40: 11:11am On Jun 04
malakaimoscondo:
u don't know how the US government work.... either..forget about hardline support the president enjoys from Senate...vis a vis GOPs........if the both houses past resolution to end the war..and the voting is not overwhelmingly of tow third majority.the president can vetoed it..cos he has vetoed power.but for four Republican to join force with demos to pass the resolution in reps it means d war is no longer popular
Wars are never popular dude!!.. the Senate is not the house!! The same resolution did not even get to the Senate floor talkless of vote... all am saying is that such resolution is hard to pass in the present day US Senate and that's true!!... the house resolution is merely symbolic. The real battle is the Senate..trust me it is easier for a carmel to pass through the eye of a needle than for such resolution to pass at the Senate!!

Veto or not, the president has within his powers to commit the US military without Congress approval for a number of days
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by Leepeak(m): 11:18am On Jun 04
QuinQ:
If Trump were a dictator like Putin Iran would have long ceased to exist as a we know it.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5908560-iran-war-resolution-house/
Sometimes I wonder who define dictator for me
You or trump
Who is a dictator
If trump were a dictator like Putin
So Putin is a dictator mtcheew nonsense talk
If Emmanuel is a dictator like Kane
Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by QuinQ(op): 11:27am On Jun 04
dru23:
People are spending more on fuel than on food. Groceries prices are also high due to the cost of fuel. Whatever GB chat is telling is a total nonsense..

People are spending at least $200 more monthly on fuel than before. So people will have to cut down in other areas .

People will cut down on going out to restaurants , movies etc this will eventually create a gap


iran will be fine. Keep in mind Iran has been under sanctioned for years and they managed to survive. Iran still controls the strait of Hormuz and their is nothing the USA can do about it. So far this war has cost the USA billions of dollars. Who is going to pay for it ...

The US based region that are destroyed who is going to pay for that damage. And what is the US getting in return... This was senseless war that had no exit strategy. All the stock piles missiles that were used to defend the gulf region has been used up ...

Imagine two super countries couldn't handle Iran . This is two against one. Do you think this is a fair fight. The only way the US can win this war is to use nuclear weapons, which of coz will never happen coz it will lead to WW3.
Same US is also making a ton of money due to high oil prices because US exports oil. See below.

The only way US can win which war?? US is not even in a,war unless cingress authorizes it.
Iran is not fighting any war. It is not a war when the other side can bomb you to oblivion at will and there's nothing you can do about it!
Once a country's air defense system, navy, airforce, are gone the country is officially defeated. All Iranian leadership are dead. Almost all their military gone. Infrastructure destroyed, plus some 4000 Iranians dead - while US has lost 13 people and their economy booming from sale of oil!

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