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| Re: June 30 "Deadline" For Undocumented Foreign Nationals To Leave South Africa by Kobojunkie: 2:43pm On Jun 04 |
jaxxy:Tagging them losers for exercising their right to protest helps nothing. The fact is they have a right to not want mass migration into their country by foreigners and they also have a right to demand all illegal immigration be put a stop to. 🥱 If the people gain nothing or see no benefit to having foreigners in their country, they have every right to demand their government ship the foreigners back to where they came from. Similar is happening in many countries across the world. 🥱 Protest is a right citizens have in their own country. Xenophobia is not a criminal offense or a thing of shame. Crime is what everyone should instead be against.🥱 |
| Re: June 30 "Deadline" For Undocumented Foreign Nationals To Leave South Africa by jaxxy(m): 5:42pm On Jun 04 |
Kobojunkie:They are against only black migrants legal or illegal and u think that is a human right? Is it a human right to be racist or xenophobic? Just listen to urself. ![]() Black southafrican commit the most domestic crimes in africa and also highest carrriers of HIV so whos really talking about value? |
| Re: June 30 "Deadline" For Undocumented Foreign Nationals To Leave South Africa by Kobojunkie: 5:48pm On Jun 04 |
jaxxy:1. I have instead seen stories highlight attacks against illegal black Africans and Middle Easterners. ![]() 2. Racism/Xenophobia/Tribalism/hate are not regulated by the criminal code in most countries,i.e., they are not considered criminal. 3. First of all, all illegal immigrants are criminals as well. So, pretending their acts should be compared to those of natives makes no sense. Just because black South Africans commit the most domestic crimes is no reason to provide an excuse for illegal immigration, another crime. ![]() The main reason why countries allow immigrants into their borders is mainly for the net positive benefits they wish to gain from opening their gates. When that does not apply, then the country has every right to close its borders and deport immigrants already within its gates. ![]() |
| Re: June 30 "Deadline" For Undocumented Foreign Nationals To Leave South Africa by jaxxy(m): 5:53pm On Jun 04 |
RandDigital:Are they employing illegals? Let the right employent or business agencies addresses any issues with their employment quota. Not u killing black africans and attacking them. There is no excuse for xenophobia. If u dont want black migrants go and protest to ur government so they can ban black people from coming to southafrica. Or more sensibly reduce the amount of specific type of migrant visas. There are sensible and legal ways to balance population or migrants. The UK and US governments do it. They dont just tell blacks or africans to go they use policies to state who they want to allow as visitors and permanent residents or even give citizenship. Do it the right way not with raw hate and mindless stupidity. ![]() |
| Re: June 30 "Deadline" For Undocumented Foreign Nationals To Leave South Africa by jaxxy(m): 5:57pm On Jun 04 |
Kobojunkie:Have u heard me ever say allow illegal migrants anywhere be is southafrica or Uk or US? I have always stood by the laws of the lands and the lawful process anywhere. Racism, xenophobia and tribalism are not crimes and long as they respect other peoples rights once they cross the legal boundries they consitute a crime. ![]() |
| Re: June 30 "Deadline" For Undocumented Foreign Nationals To Leave South Africa by Kobojunkie: 6:01pm On Jun 04 |
jaxxy:If you have been following, you would have noted up until this point that I have been simply saying that the protest be separated from the crime or any personal biases. ![]() 2. They do not become crimes when they are a motive behind particular crimes. They are simply not crimes. For instance, if a man kills another man because the other is of another race that the first man hates, the crime is the murder and not the fact that the first man has racist motives. It is kind of like greed, which in and of itself is not a crime. ![]() |
| Re: June 30 "Deadline" For Undocumented Foreign Nationals To Leave South Africa by jaxxy(m): 6:10pm On Jun 04 |
Kobojunkie:Like i said people can be racist, tribal bigots and xenophobic all they want they can identify themselves as such its nobodys business but when u take that motive and let it cause u to break the law the xenophobic killing and attacking people intead of doing their xenophobia in their house them we have a problem and a crime. If tribal bigots attack and hurt other tribes we have a problem cos then it becomes a crime. So i cant stop anyone from being anything just dont break the law. Southafrican xenophobic are breaking the law and their government is doing nothing that is the only reason im talking. I dont care is they are racist or whatever just dont break the law in the name of racism or xenophobia. |
| Re: June 30 "Deadline" For Undocumented Foreign Nationals To Leave South Africa by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Jun 04 |
jaxxy:1. And that is why I keep highlighting the crime separately from all other things, including the right to protest. ![]() 2. Then the focus should be on making the government do something about people committing crimes, not attacking the protesters for exercising their right. ![]() |
| Re: June 30 "Deadline" For Undocumented Foreign Nationals To Leave South Africa by jaxxy(m): 7:20pm On Jun 04 |
Kobojunkie:The protesters are not protesting they are killing and attacking people and they are all xenophobic. Or did i tell u the xenophobic people killing people are not protesters? Let them protest without attacking people then i will still call them xenophobic but not criminals. Right now they are both cos they are not protesting pracefully or lawfully. |
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