₦airaland Forum

HellraiZA:
For the first time ever we agree on something.Even I always thought he was necessary in our parliament to keep the ANC on its toes.But no man is above critic,hell even Mandela,SA's most beloved statesmen was never above scrutiny.It is the cult-minded attitude of the EFF members that always leaves me dumbfounded,if you criticise Juju then you are either an agent or a supporter of "white imperialism".Imagine always thinking in a one dimensional way like these people - If it's not black, it's white.

A student of Karl Marx would be very clear on the strategies employed by the EFF.

HellraiZA:
Whatever mission that is.It amazes me how you are always right there whenever I post
Sounds like obsession to me.

Always thinks he is special. I respond because I choose to.

HellraiZA:
Or you could be Tinubu's manure but don't know it yet? Mhmm🤔

Opinions are always tolerated here on nairaland. We are not in our emotions and xenophobic.

seppuku:
A student of Karl Marx would be very clear on the strategies employed by the EFF.



Always thinks he is special. I respond because I choose to.



Opinions are always tolerated here on nairaland. We are not in our emotions and xenophobic.

So you think the average EFF minion who shows up to these rallies just because there will be a bowl of rice and stew beef at the event even heard of a man called Karl Marx,let alone explain his principles? You are really overestimating the brain capacity of these guys 😂

Why shouldn't I think that? I occupy your entire being to the point of speculating who I am while I on the other hand never put you into thoughts like that.

Fair enough.

HellraiZA:
So you think the average EFF minion who shows up to these rallies just because there will be a bowl of rice and stew beef at the event even heard of a man called Karl Marx,let alone explain his principles? You are really overestimating the brain capacity of these guys 😂

You are describing a majority of "people" attached to any kind of organization. Their self-interests are seldom tied to the complexities of ideologies or objectives but rather to the most primordial of sentiments or needs.

Take your members of March and March and the likes for example. You really believe those half naked men dressed in feathers roaming the streets with whips understand the complexities of global migration or the laws that have been established to govern them.

This does not take away from the fact that a majority of the cadre in the EFF are university educated folk who are very versed in its ideology and willingly want to be part of it.

HellraiZA:
Why shouldn't I think that? I occupy your entire being to the point of speculating who I am while I on the other hand never put you into thoughts like that.

Fair enough.

Your ego is outstanding.

seppuku:
You are describing a majority of "people" attached to any kind of organization. Their self-interests are seldom tied to the complexities of ideologies or objectives but rather to the most primordial of sentiments or needs.

Take your members of March and March and the likes for example. You really believe those half naked men dressed in feathers roaming the streets with whips understand the complexities of global migration or the laws that have been established to govern them.

This does not take away from the fact that a majority of the cadre in the EFF are university educated folk who are very versed in its ideology and willingly want to be part of it.




Your ego is outstanding.

Except that March and March is not a registered political party and don't carry the same responsibilities as the EFF.The EFF conducts itself in a way that is unbecoming of a party that has its members in Parliament and leaves one to wonder what kind of a country will we have under such.

You are stretching it with that "majority".I watch SA Parliamentary proceedings and I can tell you there isn't much to write home about.


Just look at the trail of the egotistical self praising you have been doing here,calling yourself a "God" and you will see who has a big ego here.

HellraiZA:
Except that March and March is not a registered political party and don't carry the same responsibilities as the EFF.The EFF conducts itself in a way that is unbecoming of a party that has its members in Parliament and leaves one to wonder what kind of a country will we have under such.

You are stretching it with that "majority".I watch SA Parliamentary proceedings and I can tell you there isn't much to write home about.


Just look at the trail of the egotistical self praising you have been doing here,calling yourself a "God" and you will see who has a big ego here.

We are essentially wasting our time on people who are obsessed of South Africa to detriment of their own issues.. look at what's happening in Nigeria..its beheadings after beheadings..do you see the same outrage? Libya once sold Nigerians like cattle, I never once saw the same outrage, the same pan-Africanism speeches and what not.. these people are hypocrites man.. we should just let them talk, its afterall what they are good at

HellraiZA:
Except that March and March is not a registered political party and don't carry the same responsibilities as the EFF.The EFF conducts itself in a way that is unbecoming of a party that has its members in Parliament and leaves one to wonder what kind of a country will we have under such.

In truth, The EFF are a disgruntled segment of the ANC and so is UMKOTO. Together the three parties are one and the same who make up the majority of the center, center left which is truly where your country leans on the political spectrum. Their chances of becoming a majority are slim so why are you panicking?

HellraiZA:
Just look at the trail of the egotistical self praising you have been doing here,calling yourself a "God" and you will see who has a big ego here.

"god" with a small "g".

seppuku:
In truth, The EFF are a disgruntled segment of the ANC and so is UMKOTO. Together the three parties are one and the same who make up the majority of the center, center left which is truly where your country leans on the political spectrum. Their chances of becoming a majority are slim so why are you panicking?





"god" with a small "g".

EFF is not centre left, they are full left wing

IronGalaxy:
We are essentially wasting our time on people who are obsessed of South Africa to detriment of their own issues.. look at what's happening in Nigeria..its beheadings after beheadings..do you see the same outrage? Libya once sold Nigerians like cattle, I never once saw the same outrage, the same pan-Africanism speeches and what not.. these people are hypocrites man.. we should just let them talk, its afterall what they are good at

Irongalaxy.

Been itching to chime in eh!

Welcome back. We have several topics running simultaneously on Nairaland so stop it with the obsession.

On your pan-Africanism reference there. We know South Africans have been isolated from real Africa for a good amount of time so struggle with what this idea was all about.

It represents the idea that as a continent and racial block which experienced centuries of similar exploitation, dispersal and dominance, it is necessary we build economic, cultural, technological and systematic, coalitions amongst ourselves to be able to survive the world order as it is being formulated and has little to do with what your people continue to be fed down there about congregating in South Africa to displace you.

andrewza:
EFF is not centre left, they are full left wing

You are lucky they are not extreme left.

IronGalaxy:
We are essentially wasting our time on people who are obsessed of South Africa to detriment of their own issues.. look at what's happening in Nigeria..its beheadings after beheadings..do you see the same outrage? Libya once sold Nigerians like cattle, I never once saw the same outrage, the same pan-Africanism speeches and what not.. these people are hypocrites man.. we should just let them talk, its afterall what they are good at

Funny enough it was Ramaphosa who brought light to the enslavement of Nigerians and other Africans in Libya.But it's us they want to mobilize the African Union against? Huahahahaha

HellraiZA:
Funny enough it was Ramaphosa who brought light to the enslavement of Nigerians and other Africans in Libya.But it's us they want to mobilize the African Union against? Huahahahaha

Why are you angry at the fact that a lot of African countries are also tired of you camouflaging "hate" as attending to "illegal immigration" matters and see through your B.S.

If you are so mad then cut all ties with the rest of the continent and go it alone. Who is stopping you from lobbying your government to do that.

seppuku:
Irongalaxy.

Been itching to chime in eh!

Welcome back. We have several topics running simultaneously on Nairaland so stop it with the obsession.

On your pan-Africanism reference there. We know South Africans have been isolated from real Africa for a good amount of time so struggle with what this idea was all about.

It represents the idea that as a continent and racial block which experienced centuries of similar exploitation, dispersal and dominance, it is necessary we build economic, cultural, technological and systematic, coalitions amongst ourselves to be able to survive the world order as it is being formulated and has little to do with what your people continue to be fed down there about congregating in South Africa to displace you.

Nah.. engaging you is akin to engaging a rock.. absolute waste of time..

IronGalaxy:
Nah.. engaging you is akin to engaging a rock.. absolute waste of time..

Which is why you continue to lurk around my conversations with your other compadres.

HellraiZA:
Funny enough it was Ramaphosa who brought light to the enslavement of Nigerians and other Africans in Libya.But it's us they want to mobilize the African Union against? Huahahahaha

They are shameless hypocrites that's why

seppuku:
Which is why you continue to lurk around my conversations with your other compadres.

Lurking? How can I not see JaceBlaze's comments?

seppuku:
In truth, The EFF are a disgruntled segment of the ANC and so is UMKOTO. Together the three parties are one and the same who make up the majority of the center, center left which is truly where your country leans on the political spectrum. Their chances of becoming a majority are slim so why are you panicking?





"god" with a small "g".

I'm not analysing who will make up the majority.I am questioning the conduct of a political party that got voted to occupy seats in Parliament.Most South Africans are not participating or joining Jacinta's group so why is the rest of Africa in a frenzy?

Egotistical still.

HellraiZA:
I'm not analysing who will make up the majority.I am questioning the conduct of a political party that got voted to occupy seats in Parliament.

How different is this conduct of theirs from that of the ANC or Umkotho with a bunch of inept parliamentarians. I've been watching your parliament for years now too and nothing from the EFF strikes me as grossly out of order. A little disruptive but definitely not out of order.

HellraiZA:
Most South Africans are not participating or joining Jacinta's group so why is the rest of Africa in a frenzy?

Because the incitement endangers the lives of its citizens who are lawfully and legally present within the country.

IronGalaxy:
They are shameless hypocrites that's why

Yes, we should all mind our business in our respective countries and leave our special Africans alone with their "internal issues" because its non of our business, when it actually involves our citizens.

seppuku:
Why are you angry at the fact that a lot of African countries are also tired of you camouflaging "hate" as attending to "illegal immigration" matters and see through your B.S.

If you are so mad then cut all ties with the rest of the continent and go it alone. Who is stopping you from lobbying your government to do that.

I didn't know y'all were tired,pardon my ignorance🙏

That's because we never said we want to cut ties.

HellraiZA:
I didn't know y'all were tired,pardon my ignorance🙏

2008 to 2026 is enough time to see your country men harassing "foreign"nationals.

HellraiZA:
That's because we never said we want to cut ties.

If you don't want "Africans" flocking into your country then close your embassies abroad and stop issuing Visas to them or giving them 30,60,90 visa on arrivals at the border.

It's that simple. Can't have it both ways.

That "illegal immigration" B.S is coding.

seppuku:
Yes, we should all mind our business in our respective countries and leave our special Africans alone with their "internal issues" because its non of our business, when it actually involves our citizens.

You're concerned with people told to leave a country they don't belong in.. none of that "concern" is extended to innocent people in your country being beheaded for sport. But like I said, you're like a 🪨 continue with the selective and misplaced outrage. Dont care anymore

seppuku:
2008 to 2026 is enough time to see your country men harassing "foreign"nationals.




If you don't want "Africans" flocking into your country then close your embassies abroad and stop issuing Visas to them or giving them 30,60,90 visa on arrivals at the border.

It's that simple. Can't have it both ways.

That "illegal immigration" B.S is coding.

It's been that long? Time truly flies.

Tell the AU my guy!

seppuku:
How different is this conduct of theirs from that of the ANC or Umkotho with a bunch of inept parliamentarians. I've been watching your parliament for years now too and nothing from the EFF strikes me as grossly out of order. A little disruptive but definitely not out of order.




Because the incitement endangers the lives of its citizens who are lawfully and legally present within the country.

Okay!

IronGalaxy:
You're concerned with people told to leave a country they don't belong in.. none of that "concern" is extended to innocent people in your country being beheaded for sport. But like I said, you're like a 🪨 continue with the selective and misplaced outrage. Dont care anymore

So is this only a seppuku thing, a Nigerian thing or you are directing this response to the rest of the African countries, affected?

HellraiZA:
Okay!

Seppuku always speaks the truth.

seppuku:
Seppuku always speaks the truth.

Seppuku also thinks having the last word equates to opponent conceding.

HellraiZA:
Wonderful!

It sure is!

HellraiZA:
Seppuku also thinks having the last word equates to opponent conceding.

No, its my OCD kicking in.