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While many debate and others watch on let's consider this two verses


surah 2 vs 191 :
"And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and oppression is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al-Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."


Surah 47:4 (Surah Muhammad):
So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens...

Pn the above We believe that verses like this fuel this killings and ransom for kidnapping



Surah 5:33 : Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief in the land is death, crucifixion, cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, or exile from the land. This ˹penalty˺ is a disgrace for them in this world, and they will suffer a tremendous punishment in the Hereafter.

The above verse was used on debeorah


https://www.tiktok.com/video/7643123682549796116/

I just hope you are not a Christian?

CannibalEast:
I just hope you are not a Christian?

Why do u say soo? Because the Bible didn't tell us to kill anyone.

If u are referring to events that happened when the isrealite left Egypt into canaan land where they are instructed to desposess the inhabitants.


We Christians the Bible taught us that we fight not against flesh n blood but against spiritual weakness in high places.




But why is boko haram beheading soldiers

Let's point out your selective hypocrisy.

From the first verse you wrote. Did you read where it says kill them wherever they fight you. That alone should point out the context in which the verse was revealed.

Secondly, just like you decide to turn a blind eye, I will help you point out the obvious. It was stated explicitly that when "in battle".


So, safe to say that your hatred led you to reject critical reasoning for blackmail.


Now help me explain the below verses

1. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:3 KJV

2. 10-15 Before you attack a town that is far from your land, offer peace to the people who live there. If they surrender and open their town gates, they will become your slaves. But if they reject your offer of peace and try to fight, surround their town and attack. Then, after the Lord helps you capture it, kill all the men. Take the women and children as slaves and keep the livestock and everything else of value.

16 Whenever you capture towns in the land the Lord your God is giving you, be sure to kill all the people and animals. 17 He has commanded you to completely wipe out the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. 18 If you allow them to live, they will persuade you to worship their disgusting gods, and you will be unfaithful to the Lord. Deuteronomy 20



I think this is the best source of inspiration for bandits or what do you think?

OAkanni001:
Let's point out your selective hypocrisy.

From the first verse you wrote. Did you read where it says kill them wherever they fight you. That alone should point out the context in which the verse was revealed.

Secondly, just like you decide to turn a blind eye, I will help you point out the obvious. It was stated explicitly that when "in battle".


So, safe to say that your hatred led you to reject critical reasoning for blackmail.


Now help me explain the below verses

1. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:3 KJV

2. 10-15 Before you attack a town that is far from your land, offer peace to the people who live there. If they surrender and open their town gates, they will become your slaves. But if they reject your offer of peace and try to fight, surround their town and attack. Then, after the Lord helps you capture it, kill all the men. Take the women and children as slaves and keep the livestock and everything else of value.

16 Whenever you capture towns in the land the Lord your God is giving you, be sure to kill all the people and animals. 17 He has commanded you to completely wipe out the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. 18 If you allow them to live, they will persuade you to worship their disgusting gods, and you will be unfaithful to the Lord. Deuteronomy 20



I think this is the best source of inspiration for bandits or what do you think?

Not that I cared about what the op said, but please these are old testament.

Christ came and provided us with new instruction of love. So can you show us any of such quote from you since the time of Jesus Christ?

dettolgel:
Not that I cared about what the op said, but please these are old testament.

Christ came and provided us with new instruction of love. So can you show us any of such quote from you since the time of Jesus Christ?

Your god is bloodthirsty.
The Bible is like a diary of murder and mayhem, sanctioned killings of entire populations. It doesn't matter if it's Old Testament or not.

HenryWilliams:
Your god is bloodthirsty.
The Bible is like a diary of murder and mayhem, sanctioned killings of entire populations. It doesn't matter if it's Old Testament or not.

Yati yati, why are you crying? Your prophet was a jihadist and all his atrocities were documented in your koran. No be me write am

Jesus Christ our Lord and personal saviour came to teach love and all his life activities were also properly documented. His life reflects love peace unlike that guy that some of you believe in

Nextjs:
Why do u say soo? Because the Bible didn't tell us to kill anyone.

If u are referring to events that happened when the isrealite left Egypt into canaan land where they are instructed to desposess the inhabitants.


We Christians the Bible taught us that we fight not against flesh n blood but against spiritual weakness in high places.




But why is boko haram beheading soldiers

Both bible and quran should be ban because they both promote violence.

All bandits are Muslim
All terrorist are Muslim

CannibalEast:
Both bible and quran should be ban because they both promote violence.

Why should u banned Christians Who are followers of jesus Christ?

Jesus never encouraged violence
He told us to pray for our enemies
When they wanted to arrest him he told Peter to put away his sword.
He forgive the thief on the cross of calvery.
Prayed for those who killed him.


Compared him to Muhammed teachings who forbid moslems from wishing peace to the jews n unbelievers.
Muhammed lived by the sword and encourage his followers to be on military campaigns to spread his teachings

dettolgel:
Not that I cared about what the op said, but please these are old testament.

Christ came and provided us with new instruction of love. So can you show us any of such quote from you since the time of Jesus Christ?

exactly.
Christians are Christ followers so he should post where Christ ordered us to kill disbelievers abi wetin Quran dey call am

OAkanni001:
Let's point out your selective hypocrisy.

From the first verse you wrote. Did you read where it says kill them wherever they fight you. That alone should point out the context in which the verse was revealed.

Secondly, just like you decide to turn a blind eye, I will help you point out the obvious. It was stated explicitly that when "in battle".


So, safe to say that your hatred led you to reject critical reasoning for blackmail.


Now help me explain the below verses

1. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:3 KJV

2. 10-15 Before you attack a town that is far from your land, offer peace to the people who live there. If they surrender and open their town gates, they will become your slaves. But if they reject your offer of peace and try to fight, surround their town and attack. Then, after the Lord helps you capture it, kill all the men. Take the women and children as slaves and keep the livestock and everything else of value.

16 Whenever you capture towns in the land the Lord your God is giving you, be sure to kill all the people and animals. 17 He has commanded you to completely wipe out the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. 18 If you allow them to live, they will persuade you to worship their disgusting gods, and you will be unfaithful to the Lord. Deuteronomy 20



I think this is the best source of inspiration for bandits or what do you think?

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Keep quiet forever!!! Stop supporting evil!!! Get our of here. You stink of supporting evil. Get our!!!

Defending islam with the current situation of things happening is the most difficult job. Imagine beheading people and singing praise to allah,

OAkanni001:
Let's point out your selective hypocrisy.

From the first verse you wrote. Did you read where it says kill them wherever they fight you. That alone should point out the context in which the verse was revealed.

Secondly, just like you decide to turn a blind eye, I will help you point out the obvious. It was stated explicitly that when "in battle".


So, safe to say that your hatred led you to reject critical reasoning for blackmail.


Now help me explain the below verses

1. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:3 KJV

2. 10-15 Before you attack a town that is far from your land, offer peace to the people who live there. If they surrender and open their town gates, they will become your slaves. But if they reject your offer of peace and try to fight, surround their town and attack. Then, after the Lord helps you capture it, kill all the men. Take the women and children as slaves and keep the livestock and everything else of value.

16 Whenever you capture towns in the land the Lord your God is giving you, be sure to kill all the people and animals. 17 He has commanded you to completely wipe out the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. 18 If you allow them to live, they will persuade you to worship their disgusting gods, and you will be unfaithful to the Lord. Deuteronomy 20



I think this is the best source of inspiration for bandits or what do you think?

Ur whole argument is void from d beginning, cos u don't even understand wat u r saying.. Religion is in practice not texts... Assuming Muslims are not killing people in Allah' s name, most people wouldn't know these verses exist, Islam in practice is a time bomb n not good for any society...

Mind u, d verses u quote from d old testament l, when Jesus came in d new testament, it all changed. It's no longer an eye for an eye, no longer d law of Moses, but just one

LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS UR FATHER IN HEAVEN LOVED YOU...

TURN THE OTHE CHEEK WEN U ARE SLAPPED

NO GREATER LOVE A MAN HAS FOR HIS NEIGHBOR DAN TO LAY HIS LIFE DOWN FOR HIS NEIGHBOR....

That's y u don't see Christians go haywire like Muslims, cos there are no verses dat support killing, instead forgiveness...

That's y wen u c or hear a Christian or pastors commit atrocities, dey always say it's d devils work... But a Muslim will never say dat, cos dey have justification in d quran...

And a book (quran) dat is believed by muslims to be dictated by allah, directly to prophet Mohammad, n such it's content can't be altered, edited or revised, cos dey believe it's revealed by allah...

U c d problem now..

A religion dat believed in dat if someone leaves he should be killed, Jihad, sharia, nikka mutah(which I call prostitution), yizia, fatuas n all... U still here defending such in dis modern era....

A religion dat makes up 90% of terrorists in d world, yet u defend it.. a religion dat uphold itself above humanity, yet u believe it.. baba, u must be sick

A religion dat rapes, kill, behead, give out kids for marriage, makes women second class citizens, commits suicide, a religion believed to b above d constitution of any country dey reside... Dats madness

Surah At-Tawbah (9:5): Often referred to as the "Sword Verse," it states: "But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way.

Surah Al-Anfal (8:12): Describes divine intervention in battle: "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. So strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip." 

Thanks be to God who says: "O Prophet, fight the infidels and the hypocrites and be harsh with them. Their abode is hell, and what an unfortunate fate ...

Surah An-Nisa 4:24
"So for whatever you enjoy (istamta'tum) of marriage from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation." (This is nikka mutah, temporary marriage in Islam,it can be for a hours, den u pay) Wats d difference with prostitution, cos both gets paid..

Let me end here.... If u wanna debate Islam, just let me know, so we arrange n bring facts from ur Quran n surah

Ebenezer2021:
exactly.
Christians are Christ followers so he should post where Christ ordered us to kill disbelievers abi wetin Quran dey call am

He can't, he is just ignorant. Most uninformed muslims are quick to quote old testament forgetting that we Christians are followers of Christs and His teachings. No where in His teaching did He instruct Christians to do such outragenous things.

Eye witnesses who survived often says the first shout they here is allah ku aba and then u see killings.


Its important we critically examine the teachings from the quran. Although some moderate moslems will try to distance themselves.

But the truth remains the truth.

U hardly see moslems preach their messages by doorstep. It has always been by swoord and conquest

I don't need to read beyond your first sentence to know the whole of your argument is not worth my time.

All religious practices must derive their legitimacy from the a sacred religion book they believe to be divine from which practices are established.

The fact that a lot of Nigerians all over the world are known for pushing drugs does not means it has a constitutional or moral backing in our society.

Secondly, we will rather advocate for the particular individuals be punished rather than stereotype a whole country for the crime of few.

Islam also advocate love in numerous texts which you and your biased media will intentionally ignore. Let me serve you some to educate you.

"None of you [truly] believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself," (Saheeh Bukhari)

"....whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely." Quran 5:23

I want you to note where it says "soul" and not "Muslim" because are souls are sacred before Allah and you only where necessary and with the backing of those in authorities.

Under Islamic law, those bandits and Boko Haram that claim to advocate for Shariah would be its first to be brought to book because their conduct is totally against the Shariah.

So you mean if I slap you now, you will turn the other cheek back to me?

Well, we both know how foolish that sounds.

Islam will tell you to take revenge and ensure you don't trespass. But if you forgiveness is the best option.

"If you punish, then punish with the like of that with which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for the patient" Q42:40


The fact that few people choose to misinterpret the Qur'an to suit their whims and desires does not represent what Islam is.

I will also want you to know that most of the crimes happening in the name of Islam have political undertones. This has been well established by lot of American officials confessing live on camera to sponsoring terrorism.

Now give me those justifications, so we can both have a look at it.

I don't want to talk about the bible or the pastors or whatever.


Those things you listed there shows you lack understanding of what Islam is. I put it to you, What is Jihad and What is Shariah?

You just keep parroting whatever you heard online.

Do you know it part of Shariah to do good to your parents, establish family ties, be good to your neighbors and never consume each other's wealth unlawfully except in a lawful manner e.g trade?

And as for Nikkah Mut'ah, Sunni Muslims (i don't know if you will understand) are against it. It was once permissible but later abrogated.

There's nothing wrong with them only that you lack understanding of what it entails and rather than sit and learn from authentic sources, you choose to be blinded by your ignorance and desire to be woke.

That 90% you quoted now was from which source please? I'm educated and I don't entertain unsubstantiated proof. Quote a source to back it up and then you establish the accuracy of your source.

If you can't do that, I repeat you're better off putting down that lie you wrapped up there as a fact.

For each one of those claims you make, come up with the evidence as we Muslims back up our practices from the Qur'an. We don't take our practices from daddy GO or missioner or one founder.


You just displayed your ignorance once more. Surah means chapter and Tawbah means repentance. How does that correlate with the sword verse?

Those verses you quoted were taken out of context.

I will give you a brief context and I believe if you're sincere, you will understand but if you choose to be blinded by your hatred, then know all you spew there are lies.

Those verses were revealed to battles ongoing between the Muslims and the unbelievers then. After so much persecution, they were allowed to retaliate as found in the verse below:

"Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory." Q22:39


For the last part, The verse was talking about Mahr (bridal dowry) not that definition you gave to it. This is the view I hold and other billions of muslims except for rare minority who have a distorted view of the Qur'an.


I won't dignify you with a response anymore because it shows you lack knowledge of what Islam entails. All you did was some copy and paste from some website some where. I'm better off ignoring you.

Edojoma:
Ur whole argument is void from d beginning, cos u don't even understand wat u r saying.. Religion is in practice not texts... Assuming Muslims are not killing people in Allah' s name, most people wouldn't know these verses exist, Islam in practice is a time bomb n not good for any society...

Mind u, d verses u quote from d old testament l, when Jesus came in d new testament, it all changed. It's no longer an eye for an eye, no longer d law of Moses, but just one

LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS UR FATHER IN HEAVEN LOVED YOU...

TURN THE OTHE CHEEK WEN U ARE SLAPPED

NO GREATER LOVE A MAN HAS FOR HIS NEIGHBOR DAN TO LAY HIS LIFE DOWN FOR HIS NEIGHBOR....

That's y u don't see Christians go haywire like Muslims, cos there are no verses dat support killing, instead forgiveness...

That's y wen u c or hear a Christian or pastors commit atrocities, dey always say it's d devils work... But a Muslim will never say dat, cos dey have justification in d quran...

And a book (quran) dat is believed by muslims to be dictated by allah, directly to prophet Mohammad, n such it's content can't be altered, edited or revised, cos dey believe it's revealed by allah...

U c d problem now..

A religion dat believed in dat if someone leaves he should be killed, Jihad, sharia, nikka mutah(which I call prostitution), yizia, fatuas n all... U still here defending such in dis modern era....

A religion dat makes up 90% of terrorists in d world, yet u defend it.. a religion dat uphold itself above humanity, yet u believe it.. baba, u must be sick

A religion dat rapes, kill, behead, give out kids for marriage, makes women second class citizens, commits suicide, a religion believed to b above d constitution of any country dey reside... Dats madness

Surah At-Tawbah (9:5): Often referred to as the "Sword Verse," it states: "But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way.

Surah Al-Anfal (8:12): Describes divine intervention in battle: "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. So strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip." 

Thanks be to God who says: "O Prophet, fight the infidels and the hypocrites and be harsh with them. Their abode is hell, and what an unfortunate fate ...

Surah An-Nisa 4:24
"So for whatever you enjoy (istamta'tum) of marriage from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation." (This is nikka mutah, temporary marriage in Islam,it can be for a hours, den u pay) Wats d difference with prostitution, cos both gets paid..

Let me end here.... If u wanna debate Islam, just let me know, so we arrange n bring facts from ur Quran n surah

Nextjs:
While many debate and others watch on let's consider this two verses


surah 2 vs 191 :
"And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and oppression is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al-Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."


Surah 47:4 (Surah Muhammad):
So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens...

Igbadun jina siyin
Wellness is far from You
So you are saying all the soldiers posted to the North's are Christians?
All Soldiers dying so far are Christians?

OAkanni001:
I don't need to read beyond your first sentence to know the whole of your argument is not worth my time.

All religious practices must derive their legitimacy from the a sacred religion book they believe to be divine from which practices are established.

The fact that a lot of Nigerians all over the world are known for pushing drugs does not means it has a constitutional or moral backing in our society.

Secondly, we will rather advocate for the particular individuals be punished rather than stereotype a whole country for the crime of few.

Islam also advocate love in numerous texts which you and your biased media will intentionally ignore. Let me serve you some to educate you.

"None of you [truly] believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself," (Saheeh Bukhari)

"....whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely." Quran 5:23

I want you to note where it says "soul" and not "Muslim" because are souls are sacred before Allah and you only where necessary and with the backing of those in authorities.

Under Islamic law, those bandits and Boko Haram that claim to advocate for Shariah would be its first to be brought to book because their conduct is totally against the Shariah.

So you mean if I slap you now, you will turn the other cheek back to me?

Well, we both know how foolish that sounds.

Islam will tell you to take revenge and ensure you don't trespass. But if you forgiveness is the best option.

"If you punish, then punish with the like of that with which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for the patient" Q42:40


The fact that few people choose to misinterpret the Qur'an to suit their whims and desires does not represent what Islam is.

I will also want you to know that most of the crimes happening in the name of Islam have political undertones. This has been well established by lot of American officials confessing live on camera to sponsoring terrorism.

Now give me those justifications, so we can both have a look at it.

I don't want to talk about the bible or the pastors or whatever.


Those things you listed there shows you lack understanding of what Islam is. I put it to you, What is Jihad and What is Shariah?

You just keep parroting whatever you heard online.

Do you know it part of Shariah to do good to your parents, establish family ties, be good to your neighbors and never consume each other's wealth unlawfully except in a lawful manner e.g trade?

And as for Nikkah Mut'ah, Sunni Muslims (i don't know if you will understand) are against it. It was once permissible but later abrogated.

There's nothing wrong with them only that you lack understanding of what it entails and rather than sit and learn from authentic sources, you choose to be blinded by your ignorance and desire to be woke.

That 90% you quoted now was from which source please? I'm educated and I don't entertain unsubstantiated proof. Quote a source to back it up and then you establish the accuracy of your source.

If you can't do that, I repeat you're better off putting down that lie you wrapped up there as a fact.

For each one of those claims you make, come up with the evidence as we Muslims back up our practices from the Qur'an. We don't take our practices from daddy GO or missioner or one founder.


You just displayed your ignorance once more. Surah means chapter and Tawbah means repentance. How does that correlate with the sword verse?

Those verses you quoted were taken out of context.

I will give you a brief context and I believe if you're sincere, you will understand but if you choose to be blinded by your hatred, then know all you spew there are lies.

Those verses were revealed to battles ongoing between the Muslims and the unbelievers then. After so much persecution, they were allowed to retaliate as found in the verse below:

"Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory." Q22:39


For the last part, The verse was talking about Mahr (bridal dowry) not that definition you gave to it. This is the view I hold and other billions of muslims except for rare minority who have a distorted view of the Qur'an.


I won't dignify you with a response anymore because it shows you lack knowledge of what Islam entails. All you did was some copy and paste from some website some where. I'm better off ignoring you.

Nikka was never abrogated, shiite practice it... They are Muslims, are verses are valid, just because u chose humanity first doesn't mean others do, so u chose to practice d verses dat are comfortable with u, dats how other Muslims practice others dey deem comfortable with as well...

And u can't touch d problem, dats d difference with Christianity. Jesus came and ended all u quoted in d Bible, yet dere is no place dat categorically claim in Islam dat those verses are invalid. Cos u can't review or edit d quran, since it was revealed directly to Mohammed by allah...

If u have d guts to do so, den claim n say right now dat Mohammed marrying a 9yr old n sleeping with her at 12 is crap... Can u give out ur 9yr old daughter in marriage

Say Mohammad at is wrong if u can, cos I no u exercise ur rational thinking as human, thus I believe u won't marry a 9yr old..

Just say right now dat wat Mohammad did was rubbish.... As a Muslim say it, u can't ...

tanigororo:
Igbadun jina siyin
Wellness is far from You
So you are saying all the soldiers posted to the North's are Christians?
All Soldiers dying so far are Christians?

The average northern doesn't see the yorubas as true moslems

The average Arabs don't see black moslems as true moslems.

Boko haram don't see moderate moslems as moslems.

For an example in kwara state when they attack woro communities. The king or emir said they came and told them that they are coming to preach their version of moslems when they refused they launched their attack

OAkanni001:
I don't need to read beyond your first sentence to know the whole of your argument is not worth my time.

All religious practices must derive their legitimacy from the a sacred religion book they believe to be divine from which practices are established.

The fact that a lot of Nigerians all over the world are known for pushing drugs does not means it has a constitutional or moral backing in our society.

Secondly, we will rather advocate for the particular individuals be punished rather than stereotype a whole country for the crime of few.

Islam also advocate love in numerous texts which you and your biased media will intentionally ignore. Let me serve you some to educate you.

"None of you [truly] believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself," (Saheeh Bukhari)

"....whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely." Quran 5:23

I want you to note where it says "soul" and not "Muslim" because are souls are sacred before Allah and you only where necessary and with the backing of those in authorities.

Under Islamic law, those bandits and Boko Haram that claim to advocate for Shariah would be its first to be brought to book because their conduct is totally against the Shariah.

So you mean if I slap you now, you will turn the other cheek back to me?

Well, we both know how foolish that sounds.

Islam will tell you to take revenge and ensure you don't trespass. But if you forgiveness is the best option.

"If you punish, then punish with the like of that with which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for the patient" Q42:40


The fact that few people choose to misinterpret the Qur'an to suit their whims and desires does not represent what Islam is.

I will also want you to know that most of the crimes happening in the name of Islam have political undertones. This has been well established by lot of American officials confessing live on camera to sponsoring terrorism.

Now give me those justifications, so we can both have a look at it.

I don't want to talk about the bible or the pastors or whatever.


Those things you listed there shows you lack understanding of what Islam is. I put it to you, What is Jihad and What is Shariah?

You just keep parroting whatever you heard online.

Do you know it part of Shariah to do good to your parents, establish family ties, be good to your neighbors and never consume each other's wealth unlawfully except in a lawful manner e.g trade?

And as for Nikkah Mut'ah, Sunni Muslims (i don't know if you will understand) are against it. It was once permissible but later abrogated.

There's nothing wrong with them only that you lack understanding of what it entails and rather than sit and learn from authentic sources, you choose to be blinded by your ignorance and desire to be woke.

That 90% you quoted now was from which source please? I'm educated and I don't entertain unsubstantiated proof. Quote a source to back it up and then you establish the accuracy of your source.

If you can't do that, I repeat you're better off putting down that lie you wrapped up there as a fact.

For each one of those claims you make, come up with the evidence as we Muslims back up our practices from the Qur'an. We don't take our practices from daddy GO or missioner or one founder.


You just displayed your ignorance once more. Surah means chapter and Tawbah means repentance. How does that correlate with the sword verse?

Those verses you quoted were taken out of context.

I will give you a brief context and I believe if you're sincere, you will understand but if you choose to be blinded by your hatred, then know all you spew there are lies.

Those verses were revealed to battles ongoing between the Muslims and the unbelievers then. After so much persecution, they were allowed to retaliate as found in the verse below:

"Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory." Q22:39


For the last part, The verse was talking about Mahr (bridal dowry) not that definition you gave to it. This is the view I hold and other billions of muslims except for rare minority who have a distorted view of the Qur'an.


I won't dignify you with a response anymore because it shows you lack knowledge of what Islam entails. All you did was some copy and paste from some website some where. I'm better off ignoring you.

Crimes are committed for several reasons.

It could be for personal reasons, economic gains, tribal or religious reasons.

Have u taken ur time to watch videos of their attacks and who do they call? Allah ku agba. That's their shout.

Survivors often say they hear Allah ku agba then chaos set in

Again survivors often say they are asked to renounce their fate and accept Islam


You can watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lcO0XOz0mg?si=GX5Q0wPRoe7Dv5zZ

I will keep saying it that you keep opening your mouth and exposing your ignorance.

I said Nikkah Mut'ah was abrogated not Nikkah. The Shiite you mentioned are a faction who are extreme in their understanding and interpretation of the Quran. So, when I mentioned the Muslim or Islam, I'm referring to Sunni Muslims.

I choose Islam because it conforms with humanity not the other way round.

If humans can sit, edit and rewrite a book acclaimed to be from God, then such God can't be all knowing.

The fact that Quran have not undergo any correction or any conference for editing, says a lot. All you need is to have a detailed knowledge of it before you utter a word regarding it which is so evident that you lack.


On the issue of the marriage between Aisha and Muhammed. I laughed and this clarify the reason why I said an argument with you is a waste of time.

I will point you to an article to clarify all the doubt you've got from an historical point of view.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage


That article will cure you of your ignorance on this issue.

Edojoma:
Nikka was never abrogated, shiite practice it... They are Muslims, are verses are valid, just because u chose humanity first doesn't mean others do, so u chose to practice d verses dat are comfortable with u, dats how other Muslims practice others dey deem comfortable with as well...

And u can't touch d problem, dats d difference with Christianity. Jesus came and ended all u quoted in d Bible, yet dere is no place dat categorically claim in Islam dat those verses are invalid. Cos u can't review or edit d quran, since it was revealed directly to Mohammed by allah...

If u have d guts to do so, den claim n say right now dat Mohammed marrying a 9yr old n sleeping with her at 12 is crap... Can u give out ur 9yr old daughter in marriage

Say Mohammad at is wrong if u can, cos I no u exercise ur rational thinking as human, thus I believe u won't marry a 9yr old..

Just say right now dat wat Mohammad did was rubbish.... As a Muslim say it, u can't ...

Can you please reread what you wrote there?

The fact that I called the name of Jesus before committing say rape for instance does that means Jesus supports rape or I'm portraying his teachings?

Nextjs:
Crimes are committed for several reasons.

It could be for personal reasons, economic gains, tribal or religious reasons.

Have u taken ur time to watch videos of their attacks and who do they call? Allah ku agba. That's their shout.

Survivors often say they hear Allah ku agba then chaos set in

Again survivors often say they are asked to renounce their fate and accept Islam


You can watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lcO0XOz0mg?si=GX5Q0wPRoe7Dv5zZ

OAkanni001:
Can you please reread what you wrote there?

The fact that I called the name of Jesus before committing say rape for instance does that means Jesus supports rape or I'm portraying his teachings?

Well i have not seen anyone shouting jesus to kill, kidnap. Please if you have seen let me know or point to link let's see.

We have heard from numerous victims in Northern Nigeria who says they shout alla ku agba.

Many said they ask them to convert to moslems before they will be freed.

The popular reverend Ezekiel Dachomo are u saying his account abd videos are false?...

You didn't address this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lcO0XOz0mg?si=GX5Q0wPRoe7Dv5zZ

Or u didn't watch it?

Lastly why will a group of people be asking the oyo assembly to make laws that enforced sharia before victims are freed?

The religion of Islam was the reasons for so many unrest on earth. This religion is worst than cancer

OAkanni001:
Can you please reread what you wrote there?

The fact that I called the name of Jesus before committing say rape for instance does that means Jesus supports rape or I'm portraying his teachings?

Again here this update

Nextjs:
The average northern doesn't see the yorubas as true moslems

The average Arabs don't see black moslems as true moslems.

Boko haram don't see moderate moslems as moslems.

For an example in kwara state when they attack woro communities. The king or emir said they came and told them that they are coming to preach their version of moslems when they refused they launched their attack

How is that your own business?

Quote a verifiable and unbiased media company not one single individual that has taken a side in the conflict. Boko Haram released them just like they did to the Muslims among the Chibok girls right or other kidnapped victims.

Don't just accept every cock and bull story you read from the internet. You've got a brain to investigate not a dummy up there.

Quote a verifiable media or newspaper outlet in Nigeria.

Nextjs:
Again here this update

OAkanni001:
Quote a verifiable and unbiased media company not one single individual that has taken a side in the conflict. Boko Haram released them just like they did to the Muslims among the Chibok girls right or other kidnapped victims.

Don't just accept every cock and bull story you read from the internet. You've got a brain to investigate not a dummy up there.

Quote a verifiable media or newspaper outlet in Nigeria.

Are you now defending boko haram?

What about thr woro attacks where boko haram came to preach and was resisted before the killings?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dkd3llw1lo