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Gbadugbakun:
No teacher has the right to barb the hair of a child without the consent of the parents. If you try that with my child you're going to jail because I'll pay influencers to drag you and the school on social media and say that you use children's hair for rituals that's why you barb them without their parents consent.

Then I'll have the teacher arrested for rituals, she'll be remanded in jail while investigations go on. God help you if my child falls sick during that period, your own don be.

Just focus on your teaching and leave the kids alone.


Edit: ‎Its clear that many Nigerian don't understand what discipline truly means. I've been receiving emotional quotes with regards to my opinion. No wonder the world sees us as a jungle.
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‎I never Said discipline is bad I said shaving a child's hair without the consent of the parents is totally wrong and shouldn't be counted as discipline. Please try to read and understand with your head before quoting me.
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‎If you're a teacher in Europe or America would you shave a child's hair without informing the parents, you'll loose your license as a teacher and go to jail. There are some nonsense I cannot tolerate as a parent.

It's better for you to keep your child at home and train him yourself since you don't want teachers to discipline him/her.

When you were a kid, did your parents ever go to school to fight teachers; compare how you turned out to the insolent and indolent kids we have these days who have largely gone out of control

Agree

Gbadugbakun:
No teacher has the right to barb the hair of a child without the consent of the parents. If you try that with my child you're going to jail because I'll pay influencers to drag you and the school on social media and say that you use children's hair for rituals that's why you barb them without their parents consent.

Then I'll have the teacher arrested for rituals, she'll be remanded in jail while investigations go on. God help you if my child falls sick during that period, your own don be.

Just focus on your teaching and leave the kids alone.


Edit: ‎Its clear that many Nigerian don't understand what discipline truly means. I've been receiving emotional quotes with regards to my opinion. No wonder the world sees us as a jungle.
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‎I never Said discipline is bad I said shaving a child's hair without the consent of the parents is totally wrong and shouldn't be counted as discipline. Please try to read and understand with your head before quoting me.
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‎If you're a teacher in Europe or America would you shave a child's hair without informing the parents, you'll loose your license as a teacher and go to jail. There are some nonsense I cannot tolerate as a parent.

You like to imagine things because you think you're educated or enlightened

Take a seat

Mattswaggz:
So violating the kids human rights and displaying gross disrespect to the parents consent instead of tabling the matter to the parents or the school authorities to know the procedures available for such scenario is more civil to you right?. .

Most of them spoil their kids in the name of I don't want to be like my parents

MarkNsukkaBread:
It's better for you to keep your child at home and train him yourself since you don't want teachers to discipline him/her.

When you were a kid, did your parents ever go to school to fight teachers; compare how you turned out to the insolent and indolent kids we have these days who have largely gone out of control

I had the opportunity to be a part-time teacher in a private school. The problem is from the school (private) and the parents. If one school did not promote a child another school would accept the child with open arms. Parents do not even monitor their children school notes and assignments believing it is the work of the teacher. The reality is after school hours, the work of the teacher is closed till the next school day.

They feed kids junk because they think it's enjoyment.

You'll hear "I want to give my kids the kind of life I never had"

These little children become obese and are made fun of in the class. Worst, they can't even do what other kids are doing.

To any parent out there, you turned out fine, trust me, your kids will turn out better if you don't indulge them.

It's the kind of life you wanted. Your kids didn't tell you they wanted the kind of life you never had.

This is why some rich people have their kids spoilt and they tend to hate them because they ene up forcing "the enjoyment life" they imagine they would have wanted in their own childhood on the innocent kid.

Because you think "oh my parents should have protected me, or my parents should not have allowed any teachers to touch me" doesn't mean it's the best life for your kids.

Some of you parents need to grow up

SAMBARRY:
na them

Na those mothers wey go buy 1 carton of popcorn, ice cream ,indomie and all manner of junks and then be wondering why the child's attention span is low,why she's lazy,dull and not bright .all they want their kids to do is dance on tiktok all day,eat, watch TV,sleep.reading to them is punishment and doing assignments is abusive.

Coming to class late is good sef in their own dictionary. Wonkin shoromo

Parents don't understand this honestly.

School owners don't care about your kids. In fact if they will lie down for your kids to walk all over them so you continue keeping your kids in the school they will gladly do it.

They will do anything to keep your children happy and want to stay in that school.

No work, no discipline, just playing and long breaks. Even telling teachers to upgrade their scores, change remarks about their performances, no positions in class (no parents will be happy with their kids coming last) I've seen it all as a teacher.

If you like don't watch your child. E go perform well for paper but na olodo for reality.

Ajoself:
I had the opportunity to be a part-time teacher in a private school. The problem is from the school (private) and the parents. If one school did not promote a child another school would accept the child with open arms. Parents do not even monitor their children school notes and assignments believing it is the work of the teacher. The reality is after school hours, the work of the teacher is closed till the next school day.

In submission, as a parent if u notice that there's a cut on ur child's hair that u weren't aware of u would be cool about it...... or is cutting the child's hair a new form of punishment now.... Read a lot of stuff that really passed me.... being a teacher is overwhelming, try being a parent (I'm talking about a responsible parent)

God save us all

If your child's hair is cut in primary school it always mean one thing: it was bushy and unkept.

Most of us that grew up in the village know this. Every Monday was inspection day where they check your uniform to see if it's clean, your nails to see if it's short and your hair and teeth.

Teaching goes beyond ABCD. The teachers also want these kids to be healthy.

As a parent if you fail in this responsibility, your kids will often bear the repercussions. In those days, they will use a metre rule to flog your nails or carry a scissors to scatter the hair. If the use the scissors to make two lines in front of the bushy hair, the kid becomes ashamed of his scattered hair, forcing the parent to barb the hair.

This is why I'm not taking this mother seriously because if she loved her child as much as she want us to believe, he'll not be going to school with bushy and dirty hair and nails.

She's a terrible mother and it's reflecting on the kid.

RockyEyo:
In submission, as a parent if u notice that there's a cut on ur child's hair that u weren't aware of u would be cool about it...... or is cutting the child's hair a new form of punishment now.... Read a lot of stuff that really passed me.... being a teacher is overwhelming, try being a parent (I'm talking about a responsible parent)

God save us all

To discipline an unserious child especially in the academic space is not a bad thing but it should be control in a manner that it will NOT put his or her health at risks.

I think we need to study the logic used in advance countries, we don't hear about such controversies and at the same time their kids perform even better than our kids in most cases.

Advanced countries bring guns to school and kill each other.

You ever wondered why advanced countries are importing doctors instead of having them in abundance?

Because their school system is failing. These kids are fighting their teachers literally.

No be everything we suppose copy

gbagyiza:
To discipline an unserious child especially in the academic space is not a bad thing but it should be control in a manner that it will NOT put his or her health at risks.

I think we need to study the logic used in advance countries, we don't hear about such controversies and at the same time their kids perform even better than our kids in most cases.

A very nice write-up. Keep it up !!!!

Host78:
They feed kids junk because they think it's enjoyment.

You'll hear "I want to give my kids the kind of life I never had"

These little children become obese and are made fun of in the class. Worst, they can't even do what other kids are doing.

To any parent out there, you turned out fine, trust me, your kids will turn out better if you don't indulge them.

It's the kind of life you wanted. Your kids didn't tell you they wanted the kind of life you never had.

This is why some rich people have their kids spoilt and they tend to hate them because they ene up forcing "the enjoyment life" they imagine they would have wanted in their own childhood on the innocent kid.

Because you think "oh my parents should have protected me, or my parents should not have allowed any teachers to touch me" doesn't mean it's the best life for your kids.

Some of you parents need to grow up

leave them,make them dey argue blindly

Them no dey tell person

Mattswaggz:
When you're done spewing the gibberish that has nothing to do with the post nor my question then you should come back to reality and answer appropriately......are you in support of extrajudicial justice system and would like to be a victim of it with your entire household eh mini Yekini?.

I support appropriate discipline of a child and if you know you don't want that for your child, home school your child yourself

Mattswaggz:
You can keep on insulting me and answer the question while at it......are you the kids god......from your write up you were creating an impression that any kid that doesn't follow ur so called discipline will end up as a very terrible person in life.... someone that can end up keeling their guardian.....and I asked if you're anyone's god then you're suddenly getting all worked up. .

Stop deceiving yourself.....life isn't the Nollywood that have brainwashed U......you're not Mr know it all and should you cross your boundaries you'll be well dealt with accordingly.

keep crying here

Na una type go dey find lawyers and therapist. E pain you abi?

No train your child you hear,na the child go train you

Host78:
If your child's hair is cut in primary school it always mean one thing: it was bushy and unkept.

Most of us that grew up in the village know this. Every Monday was inspection day where they check your uniform to see if it's clean, your nails to see if it's short and your hair and teeth.

Teaching goes beyond ABCD. The teachers also want these kids to be healthy.

As a parent if you fail in this responsibility, your kids will often bear the repercussions. In those days, they will use a metre rule to flog your nails or carry a scissors to scatter the hair. If the use the scissors to make two lines in front of the bushy hair, the kid becomes ashamed of his scattered hair, forcing the parent to barb the hair.

This is why I'm not taking this mother seriously because if she loved her child as much as she want us to believe, he'll not be going to school with bushy and dirty hair and nails.

She's a terrible mother and it's reflecting on the kid.

those were when mothers were mothers,not the type of apology we have now,especially the one crying from page to page deceiving herself

Ajoself:
I had the opportunity to be a part-time teacher in a private school. The problem is from the school (private) and the parents. If one school did not promote a child another school would accept the child with open arms. Parents do not even monitor their children school notes and assignments believing it is the work of the teacher. The reality is after school hours, the work of the teacher is closed till the next school day.

exactly

Host78:
You like to imagine things because you think you're educated or enlightened

Take a seat

lol she go explain taya

You go know say e really pain am gir body

Fake woke mothers everywhere.trying to form western parenting by force

Everybody want to cry human rights to appear educated.

She knows human rights not to touch her kids. But not the human decency to care about her kids appearance.

In the whole class only her coming to fight probably only her kid was dirty but because she has no shame, she came to disgrace herself further.

With barbing saloon all over the place, she cannot give her son N500 to barb his hair and appear neat and smart.

An excuse of a mother but well she knows her human rights

SAMBARRY:
those were when mothers were mothers,not the type of apology we have now,especially the one crying from page to page deceiving herself

Major7:
Home school your children if you don't want them to be disciplined. It's not just about teaching in class room alone but discipline is the other side of the coin of teaching,it can't be separated. It help the society to be a better place. I have seen a soldier barb the hair of a guy because of indecent hairstyle,he took the guy to a nearby barber and paid,then flogged the guy. We are Africans,stop copying what's bad

How can you just be flogging someone in the road who ddnt commit any crime in the name of discipline . And you think this is okay…?

Yall are just used to violence from your folks since childhood, so u see it as a norm

Host78:
Everybody want to cry human rights to appear educated.

She knows human rights not to touch her kids. But not the human decency to care about her kids appearance.

In the whole class only her coming to fight probably only her kid was dirty but because she has no shame, she came to disgrace herself further.

With barbing saloon all over the place, she cannot give her son N500 to barb his hair and appear neat and smart.

An excuse of a mother but well she knows her human rights

U are desperately trying to justify wrong doing by hiding it under discipline …

I love how you guys like taking arguments and twisting it like there was no cause.

So a teacher will just flog every student without a cause?

How una dey see some of us like mumu nau?

WatchYourSix:
How can you just be flogging someone in the road who ddnt commit any crime in the name of discipline . And you think this is okay…?

Yall are just used to violence from your folks since childhood, so u see it as a norm

Host78:
Parents can be dramatic at times as we have seen in this recent video of the woman confronting her kids teacher.

Most of these kids can come home and narrate issues not as they were but as they feel it is.

I used feelings. Kids can easily feel things differently and exaggerate unnecessarily.

I used to teacher a primary school class with 11 kids in total.

Primary 5 then.

When I started, I was preparing them for common entrance exam immediately but I had a problem: most of the kids could not read properly.

Like 5 of them could not read a whole line in their textbooks without looking up to me for help.

Now these are kids going to jss 1 the next year. We all know in jss 1, you're expected to know how to read at least from my secondary school experience.

But there was one in particular that could not read at all.

I had to confront their previous teacher from primary 4 because I found it very sad that they will keep promoting these kids like that.

But she explained that the kids won't do their homework, she can't discipline them because they don't want to loose their kids to other schools (the proprietors instructions).

But I was determined to make sure these kids can read before they leave the school.

It's not small work o. I introduced them to Ugo c. Ugo.

Everyday, they are solving 50 maths questions as assignments. I remember the very first one, none got up to 5.

I punished them myself. Not harsh but since they were not used to any punishment, it was for them.

I made sure they crammed multiplication table from 2x1 up to 15x15.

For the reading, I reduced their break time to less than 15 minutes.

Most of them became better readers but this girl continued struggling. Not improving.

Then I started forcing her to attend my extra lessons. All the others attend after school but she's the only one not attending.

She said her parents don't have money (in the real sense she never informed them about it).

Anyways, I said OK. But she must attend the lesson. So even without pay, I still made her stay for the lesson.

I focused on her reading and maths (you always have to get this foundation right. Aside maths and English.. Reading, everything else from primary school is almost useless).

So we spent extra 2 hours drilling maths and English together.

Into their second term, I saw dramatic changes in their work.

But something happened one day. I gave them their usual 50 questions assignment and she looked at me straight in the eyes and said she would not do it.

I told her if you don't do it, don't even bother coming to school because I'll flog nonsense from your body.

She then said she'll report me to her mother. I told her to try it first.

The next day she came to school and truly she didn't do it.

After marking everything, I flogged shege from her body that day.

The next day, the mother was already shouting from the road leading to school dragging her daughter along shouting and speaking yoruba angrily.

I didn't get a word because I don't understand yoruba.

So I ask her to speak with the cleaner and interpret to me.

She spoke that so I want to kill her daughter. So you single my child out because you don't like her and all manner of stuff.

I could have gotten angry but I didn't. I explained everything to her.

Then I asked the girl to bring her books same as her classmates. They all brought their books.

And proudly I showed her everything. The weekly increases in their scoring from each assignment.

They all read a full passage from their textbook in front of her. You need to see her happy that day.

She apologized and asked me to calculate my lesson fee she's owing but I never did.

I later gained admission into the university. At that time, one of the mother of the boys in my class came and was saying when she took her son to one Ansarudeen lesson, the teachers were really happy because he could solve questions faster and in different methods than all the other kids (he was average in my class then).

But I never stayed to see all of them get into secondary school though.

I remember back then because of the dramatic change in their performance, the proprietor for the first time had to enroll them in an all primary quiz.

This was the first ever time she had tried it because according to her she didn't want to go and disgrace her school in such competition.

Although we didn't qualify but I strongly believe if the foundations had been right and they had been more strict, we would have done better.

Little discipline goes a long way in shaping kids. Kids don't know their left from their right, yet they can be very stubborn in their ways.

As you are entrusting them to teachers, learn to trust their judgments. But more importantly, if there's an issue, don't go fighting.

Teachers can easily neglect your child and watch her self destruct in that school, not only physically but academically.

Instead, go to them to reason with them. Find out the issue. Communicate your feelings and make them understand you and you too try to understand them.

No teacher, well, maybe some and very few at that will ever single your child with the aim of maltreating them.

Even some, will have their best interests at heart while punishing them severely but don't know that they are crossing your personal line.

Communicate this to them peacefully. Don't even let your child to be in the same room while this is going on.

My one piece

Nice narrative.
But you narrative placed same side with the parents your objective was to drag.
Our problem with analysis is that we allow ourselves to be too shallow and follow narrow parts. And tend to always leap before we look when analysing such incidents.
We all do not know the full story that led to the shaving of the girls hair and the cutting of her nails, but no amount of goodwill as a teacher confers unlimited powers to a teacher to act in whichever way he chooses in instilling discipline upon her students.
Students are minors and as such need parental approval for most things.

You can't support the shaving of primary school pupils hair and cutting of her nails for any reason. It is a no no. You channel whatever complaints you have to the parents.
Teachers no longer have absolute powers.
One day the male teacher go shave female students pubic hair all in the name of discipline.

The same children wey teachers discipline well well those days, Na them dey finish this country so.

Point out any desperation in my write up.

Point out anywhere I'm wrong where discipline is suggested and it's not because of prior indiscipline which is aimed at being corrected.

WatchYourSix:
U are desperately trying to justify wrong doing by hiding it under discipline …

Again, you guys always like to swing your arguments to the extreme just to make a point.

Especially of things that may never exist.

No one is in support of male teachers shaving female pubic hair. Such examples are extreme and never done for discipline.

Secondly, if you read my write up it clearly stated "why" parents needs to confront teachers but more importantly, "how" this should be done.

But coming to say, no teacher should discipline the kids or coming to fight them is never the right thing.

Teachers should be able to discipline kids. The extent of such discipline is an individual thing.

Since such is individualized, parents should always make their displeasures known to the teacher as soon as they crossed the line.

The teacher cut the child's nails most likely because they are dirty. All of us know she wanted to do good.

Now as a parent, you know this. Your child is not in any immediate danger from the cut nails.

You can work up to the teacher, "ma/sir I noticed you did this or that to my child. I understand you meant the best for them but next time can you inform me before hand? Here's my phone number or better still you can write it in a note and give it to him and he'll bring it to me at home"

Instead the mother went there to prove to her baby that I love you so much and would not allow anything or anyone to touch you.

That's all the mother wanted to prove to her child, the school and more importantly to herself.

And this is what most parents today want to do. They want to prove that they love their kids so much, they don't understand that love goes with discipline.

If you love your child you'll cuddle them, not allow them to ride a bicycle because they can get injured.

But that's not love. You let them play even if they can get injured because it's necessary for their growths into capable adult humans.

Saying your child should be outside of the discipline square is totally wrong.

ponishah:
Nice narrative.
But you narrative placed same side with the parents your objective was to drag.
Our problem with analysis is that we allow ourselves to be too shallow and follow narrow parts. And tend to always leap before we look when analysing such incidents.
We all do not know the full story that led to the shaving of the girls hair and the cutting of her nails, but no amount of goodwill as a teacher confers unlimited powers to a teacher to act in whichever way he chooses in instilling discipline upon her students.
Students are minors and as such need parental approval for most things.

You can't support the shaving of primary school pupils hair and cutting of her nails for any reason. It is a no no. You channel whatever complaints you have to the parents.
Teachers no longer have absolute powers.
One day the male teacher go shave female students pubic hair all in the name of discipline.

The same children wey teachers discipline well well those days, Na them dey finish this country so.

Secondly if a girl is plaiting her natural hair, no teacher will take a scissor and start cutting it.

It's only when the school make it mandatory that all students should barb their hair regardless of sex and the girl start plaiting her hair suddenly in rebellion.

Why are we all pretending like we didn't attend school in this country?

In most schools, female students are not allowed to use attachments on their hair, if you do, most times they will loose it or cut it, prompting you to loose the attachment.

If the boys hair are bushy or they barb style not allowed by the school they are either scattered prompting the kids to go and barb the right style or sent back home.

But no, you must perform the mental gymnastics of going extremes to make nonsense points.

This is the reason I can't be a teacher because your children lives would spoil . I was a teacher in 2008 before gaining admission , and parents would literally drag their kids to me to beat for their misbehaviors at home but me , lailai I no go beat. This was when there was sanity in the system , now reverse is the case . Some parents won't train their kids , yet won't let teachers do it for them . To me , As it is done at that time , it still remains the same . If my son misbehave in school , discipline him but don't inflict injuries on him . As we all know that there is level to misbehaving , so discipline him according to the fckup . Truth is , most parents are failing and it is getting worse everyday . You don't have time for these kids to even check their assignments or know how they fair in school , you won't attend open-day because you don't have time but boom , if the kid report his teacher to you , that time you never had , the time go con de to go fight the teacher . All these being said , I don't support a teacher shaving a kid's hair without the consent of the parent . If it was back then In the days , someone like my mama go even tell the teacher thank you for saving her some money for shaving😂 she would even prefer gorimapa😂

Host78:
Point out any desperation in my write up.

Point out anywhere I'm wrong where discipline is suggested and it's not because of prior indiscipline which is aimed at being corrected.

Ur Desperation comes from you painting the mother bad just to justify the teachers actions… stylishly suggesting the child was dirty and the mother has no shame…
U even went further saying she ddnt have right to be talking about basic human right, because her kid’s hair is rough
The hair isnt even full from the picture…. it just needed brushing because of the texture of the hair…

Host78:
I love how you guys like taking arguments and twisting it like there was no cause.

So a teacher will just flog every student without a cause?

How una dey see some of us like mumu nau?

This is more desperation from you because my comment u jumped on isnt directed to you.. it’s a different context about a soldier who flogged a random person because of their hairstyle and forcefully shaved their hair…. U are just all over the place looking for validation for your extreme view….

Those days you barb styles like tyson to school teacher would put scissors in your hair and design the hair for you. Well they say they are in the GEN Z generation. I keep asking why is it that it the mother that's always going to the school why not the father?


Every parents knows what they want.

If I was looking for validation, I won't be arguing with you or opposing you, instead I'll be agreeing with everything you say so as to score cheap points.

Again, you're going to extreme to find non-existent points

WatchYourSix:
This is more desperation from you because my comment u jumped on isnt directed to you.. it’s a different context about a soldier who flogged a random person because of their hairstyle and forcefully shaved their hair…. U are just all over the place looking for validation for your extreme view….

Lolz.

Everyone suddenly talking like they didn't grow up in Nigeria.

She wants to prove to the child she loves him so much and would never allow anyone to touch him

But her love does not involve taking proper care of the child's appearance. Only when others discipline him that she will have the chance to cause chaos so the child can appreciate it

keemsleek:
Those days you barb styles like tyson to school teacher would put scissors in your hair and design the hair for you. Well they say they are in the GEN Z generation. I keep asking why is it that it the mother that's always going to the school why not the father?


Every parents knows what they want.