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Host78:
If you care so much about your child you'll keep their hair and nails clean so no teacher will correct them.

It's always the bad parents coming to fight on their badly behaving kids behalf.

Check very well, you correct a kid who is badly behaved and they call their terrible parents who comes around to fight, displaying their poor behavior which is being reflected in the kids.

The apple never falls far from the tree. Tueh!

Nailed it!

Host78:
Again, you guys always like to swing your arguments to the extreme just to make a point.

Especially of things that may never exist.

No one is in support of male teachers shaving female pubic hair. Such examples are extreme and never done for discipline.

Secondly, if you read my write up it clearly stated "why" parents needs to confront teachers but more importantly, "how" this should be done.

But coming to say, no teacher should discipline the kids or coming to fight them is never the right thing.

Teachers should be able to discipline kids. The extent of such discipline is an individual thing.

Since such is individualized, parents should always make their displeasures known to the teacher as soon as they crossed the line.

The teacher cut the child's nails most likely because they are dirty. All of us know she wanted to do good.

Now as a parent, you know this. Your child is not in any immediate danger from the cut nails.

You can work up to the teacher, "ma/sir I noticed you did this or that to my child. I understand you meant the best for them but next time can you inform me before hand? Here's my phone number or better still you can write it in a note and give it to him and he'll bring it to me at home"

Instead the mother went there to prove to her baby that I love you so much and would not allow anything or anyone to touch you.

That's all the mother wanted to prove to her child, the school and more importantly to herself.

And this is what most parents today want to do. They want to prove that they love their kids so much, they don't understand that love goes with discipline.

If you love your child you'll cuddle them, not allow them to ride a bicycle because they can get injured.

But that's not love. You let them play even if they can get injured because it's necessary for their growths into capable adult humans.

Saying your child should be outside of the discipline square is totally wrong.



Secondly if a girl is plaiting her natural hair, no teacher will take a scissor and start cutting it.

It's only when the school make it mandatory that all students should barb their hair regardless of sex and the girl start plaiting her hair suddenly in rebellion.

Why are we all pretending like we didn't attend school in this country?

In most schools, female students are not allowed to use attachments on their hair, if you do, most times they will loose it or cut it, prompting you to loose the attachment.

If the boys hair are bushy or they barb style not allowed by the school they are either scattered prompting the kids to go and barb the right style or sent back home.

But no, you must perform the mental gymnastics of going extremes to make nonsense points.

Hello,

Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts on this. I agree that children should be corrected and disciplined when they do something wrong, but discipline must be handled appropriately and within proper boundaries. If a child violates school policy, disobeys instructions, or behaves in a way that affects others, then it is understandable for the school to address it.

However, in this particular case, I do not believe the teacher’s action was appropriate. The child’s hair did not even appear overgrown, and he looks very young. If the teacher felt the hair needed to be cut lower, the proper thing to do would have been to send a note or message to the child’s parents. A teacher is a guardian only while the child is in school, but that does not give her the right to take such a personal matter into her own hands.

I have read several people say that if parents do not want their children disciplined, they should homeschool them. In this case, the question is: how was the boy’s hair preventing the teacher from teaching? Was there a health concern, such as lice? If so, the right approach would have been to inform the school authorities and the parents, not to take such drastic action.

I feel strongly about this because something similar happened to my child. I was called from work and told to come to the hospital because my child had been rushed there. A teacher had ‘disciplined’ him with a sharp object, which tore his forehead.

He was only three years old! When I arrived, my child was soaked in blood and tears.
What made it even harder was that the children present were too young to clearly explain what happened, so I never truly got closure.

The school authorities and teachers came to my house several times to apologize, and the teacher was eventually let go, but my child still carries the huge scar on his forehead till date because someone felt they had the right to discipline him in a harmful way.

Discipline is important, but it must never cross the line into humiliation, harm, or abuse.

I have hated that profession because of the hypocrisy of school owners(especially private school owners) and these Genz parents we have now. The children we have now are spoilt brats and disrespectful. They don't even have regards for their teachers unlike our days. This is as a result of poor upbringing by their parents.

Gbadugbakun:
No teacher has the right to barb the hair of a child without the consent of the parents. If you try that with my child you're going to jail because I'll pay influencers to drag you and the school on social media and say that you use children's hair for rituals that's why you barb them without their parents consent.

Then I'll have the teacher arrested for rituals, she'll be remanded in jail while investigations go on. God help you if my child falls sick during that period, your own don be.

Just focus on your teaching and leave the kids alone.


Edit: ‎Its clear that many Nigerian don't understand what discipline truly means. I've been receiving emotional quotes with regards to my opinion. No wonder the world sees us as a jungle.
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‎I never Said discipline is bad I said shaving a child's hair without the consent of the parents is totally wrong and shouldn't be counted as discipline. Please try to read and understand with your head before quoting me.
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‎If you're a teacher in Europe or America would you shave a child's hair without informing the parents, you'll loose your license as a teacher and go to jail. There are some nonsense I cannot tolerate as a parent.

FOR ME, shaving a child's hair (EVEN WITH PARENT'S CONSENT) IS WRONG. If you can't shave your child's hair by yourself. That child will not enter my school, if it's my school. Using cane on children is actually going obsolete too but I don't see any reason why children should not serve punishment if they have done anything wrong.

HacheNoire:
You are game!

Back then, when I mess up and face disciplinary actions, I am alway nice to that teacher so he won’t report me to my parents cos my parent detest nonsense.

The day I hit a girl and was flogged and still made to weed a large portion of land, and my teacher still reported me to my parents on visiting day. My dad used slaps to embarrass me in front of teachers and students. That’s where I started having an idea that you never raise hands on a woman. Cos the way I was dealt with was different from any of the previous and subsequent fwck ups.

Parents of today would have been defending me and probably beat the teacher up.

Three Saturdays ago, I listened with grief to a lawyer's account of a 15-year-old boy sent to prison for raping a girl in Nigeria. This was narrated by Barrister Omosebi of NIgeriainfofm as the boy literally confessed to him.
To say parents deal with am wella, shey this amount of disgrace and pain go reach dia family.
Make dem continue raising ill-trained children.

Host78:
Parents can be dramatic at times as we have seen in this recent video of the woman confronting her kids teacher.

Most of these kids can come home and narrate issues not as they were but as they feel it is.

I used feelings. Kids can easily feel things differently and exaggerate unnecessarily.

I used to teacher a primary school class with 11 kids in total.

Primary 5 then.

When I started, I was preparing them for common entrance exam immediately but I had a problem: most of the kids could not read properly.

Like 5 of them could not read a whole line in their textbooks without looking up to me for help.

Now these are kids going to jss 1 the next year. We all know in jss 1, you're expected to know how to read at least from my secondary school experience.

But there was one in particular that could not read at all.

I had to confront their previous teacher from primary 4 because I found it very sad that they will keep promoting these kids like that.

But she explained that the kids won't do their homework, she can't discipline them because they don't want to loose their kids to other schools (the proprietors instructions).

But I was determined to make sure these kids can read before they leave the school.

It's not small work o. I introduced them to Ugo c. Ugo.

Everyday, they are solving 50 maths questions as assignments. I remember the very first one, none got up to 5.

I punished them myself. Not harsh but since they were not used to any punishment, it was for them.

I made sure they crammed multiplication table from 2x1 up to 15x15.

For the reading, I reduced their break time to less than 15 minutes.

Most of them became better readers but this girl continued struggling. Not improving.

Then I started forcing her to attend my extra lessons. All the others attend after school but she's the only one not attending.

She said her parents don't have money (in the real sense she never informed them about it).

Anyways, I said OK. But she must attend the lesson. So even without pay, I still made her stay for the lesson.

I focused on her reading and maths (you always have to get this foundation right. Aside maths and English.. Reading, everything else from primary school is almost useless).

So we spent extra 2 hours drilling maths and English together.

Into their second term, I saw dramatic changes in their work.

But something happened one day. I gave them their usual 50 questions assignment and she looked at me straight in the eyes and said she would not do it.

I told her if you don't do it, don't even bother coming to school because I'll flog nonsense from your body.

She then said she'll report me to her mother. I told her to try it first.

The next day she came to school and truly she didn't do it.

After marking everything, I flogged shege from her body that day.

The next day, the mother was already shouting from the road leading to school dragging her daughter along shouting and speaking yoruba angrily.

I didn't get a word because I don't understand yoruba.

So I ask her to speak with the cleaner and interpret to me.

She spoke that so I want to kill her daughter. So you single my child out because you don't like her and all manner of stuff.

I could have gotten angry but I didn't. I explained everything to her.

Then I asked the girl to bring her books same as her classmates. They all brought their books.

And proudly I showed her everything. The weekly increases in their scoring from each assignment.

They all read a full passage from their textbook in front of her. You need to see her happy that day.

She apologized and asked me to calculate my lesson fee she's owing but I never did.

I later gained admission into the university. At that time, one of the mother of the boys in my class came and was saying when she took her son to one Ansarudeen lesson, the teachers were really happy because he could solve questions faster and in different methods than all the other kids (he was average in my class then).

But I never stayed to see all of them get into secondary school though.

I remember back then because of the dramatic change in their performance, the proprietor for the first time had to enroll them in an all primary quiz.

This was the first ever time she had tried it because according to her she didn't want to go and disgrace her school in such competition.

Although we didn't qualify but I strongly believe if the foundations had been right and they had been more strict, we would have done better.

Little discipline goes a long way in shaping kids. Kids don't know their left from their right, yet they can be very stubborn in their ways.

As you are entrusting them to teachers, learn to trust their judgments. But more importantly, if there's an issue, don't go fighting.

Teachers can easily neglect your child and watch her self destruct in that school, not only physically but academically.

Instead, go to them to reason with them. Find out the issue. Communicate your feelings and make them understand you and you too try to understand them.

No teacher, well, maybe some and very few at that will ever single your child with the aim of maltreating them.

Even some, will have their best interests at heart while punishing them severely but don't know that they are crossing your personal line.

Communicate this to them peacefully. Don't even let your child to be in the same room while this is going on.

My one piece

you forgot to add most teachers these days are grossly unqualified. NCE remains the minimum standard for a teacher which you didn't have.

Private schools are business not learning places.

In my primary school there was no lesson then. No need for it. Teachers were sound. I was reading very well in primary three.

Today you and your fake schools are imposing lesson from primary school. Does it mean your students are dull or there's something wrong in the process?

Gbadugbakun:
No teacher has the right to barb the hair of a child without the consent of the parents. If you try that with my child you're going to jail because I'll pay influencers to drag you and the school on social media and say that you use children's hair for rituals that's why you barb them without their parents consent.

Then I'll have the teacher arrested for rituals, she'll be remanded in jail while investigations go on. God help you if my child falls sick during that period, your own don be.

Just focus on your teaching and leave the kids alone.


Edit: ‎Its clear that many Nigerian don't understand what discipline truly means. I've been receiving emotional quotes with regards to my opinion. No wonder the world sees us as a jungle.
‎
‎I never Said discipline is bad I said shaving a child's hair without the consent of the parents is totally wrong and shouldn't be counted as discipline. Please try to read and understand with your head before quoting me.
‎
‎If you're a teacher in Europe or America would you shave a child's hair without informing the parents, you'll loose your license as a teacher and go to jail. There are some nonsense I cannot tolerate as a parent.

You said you will pay influencers to lie. It's a shame that a parent is thinking along that line. As a lying parent, what lesson do you have to teach your child on telling the truth?

Host78:
Lolz.

Everyone suddenly talking like they didn't grow up in Nigeria.

She wants to prove to the child she loves him so much and would never allow anyone to touch him

But her love does not involve taking proper care of the child's appearance. Only when others discipline him that she will have the chance to cause chaos so the child can appreciate it

Thank you my brother. You are so right

Host78:
Parents can be dramatic at times as we have seen in this recent video of the woman confronting her kids teacher.

Most of these kids can come home and narrate issues not as they were but as they feel it is.

I used feelings. Kids can easily feel things differently and exaggerate unnecessarily.

I used to teacher a primary school class with 11 kids in total.

Primary 5 then.

When I started, I was preparing them for common entrance exam immediately but I had a problem: most of the kids could not read properly.

Like 5 of them could not read a whole line in their textbooks without looking up to me for help.

Now these are kids going to jss 1 the next year. We all know in jss 1, you're expected to know how to read at least from my secondary school experience.

But there was one in particular that could not read at all.

I had to confront their previous teacher from primary 4 because I found it very sad that they will keep promoting these kids like that.

But she explained that the kids won't do their homework, she can't discipline them because they don't want to loose their kids to other schools (the proprietors instructions).

But I was determined to make sure these kids can read before they leave the school.

It's not small work o. I introduced them to Ugo c. Ugo.

Everyday, they are solving 50 maths questions as assignments. I remember the very first one, none got up to 5.

I punished them myself. Not harsh but since they were not used to any punishment, it was for them.

I made sure they crammed multiplication table from 2x1 up to 15x15.

For the reading, I reduced their break time to less than 15 minutes.

Most of them became better readers but this girl continued struggling. Not improving.

Then I started forcing her to attend my extra lessons. All the others attend after school but she's the only one not attending.

She said her parents don't have money (in the real sense she never informed them about it).

Anyways, I said OK. But she must attend the lesson. So even without pay, I still made her stay for the lesson.

I focused on her reading and maths (you always have to get this foundation right. Aside maths and English.. Reading, everything else from primary school is almost useless).

So we spent extra 2 hours drilling maths and English together.

Into their second term, I saw dramatic changes in their work.

But something happened one day. I gave them their usual 50 questions assignment and she looked at me straight in the eyes and said she would not do it.

I told her if you don't do it, don't even bother coming to school because I'll flog nonsense from your body.

She then said she'll report me to her mother. I told her to try it first.

The next day she came to school and truly she didn't do it.

After marking everything, I flogged shege from her body that day.

The next day, the mother was already shouting from the road leading to school dragging her daughter along shouting and speaking yoruba angrily.

I didn't get a word because I don't understand yoruba.

So I ask her to speak with the cleaner and interpret to me.

She spoke that so I want to kill her daughter. So you single my child out because you don't like her and all manner of stuff.

I could have gotten angry but I didn't. I explained everything to her.

Then I asked the girl to bring her books same as her classmates. They all brought their books.

And proudly I showed her everything. The weekly increases in their scoring from each assignment.

They all read a full passage from their textbook in front of her. You need to see her happy that day.

She apologized and asked me to calculate my lesson fee she's owing but I never did.

I later gained admission into the university. At that time, one of the mother of the boys in my class came and was saying when she took her son to one Ansarudeen lesson, the teachers were really happy because he could solve questions faster and in different methods than all the other kids (he was average in my class then).

But I never stayed to see all of them get into secondary school though.

I remember back then because of the dramatic change in their performance, the proprietor for the first time had to enroll them in an all primary quiz.

This was the first ever time she had tried it because according to her she didn't want to go and disgrace her school in such competition.

Although we didn't qualify but I strongly believe if the foundations had been right and they had been more strict, we would have done better.

Little discipline goes a long way in shaping kids. Kids don't know their left from their right, yet they can be very stubborn in their ways.

As you are entrusting them to teachers, learn to trust their judgments. But more importantly, if there's an issue, don't go fighting.

Teachers can easily neglect your child and watch her self destruct in that school, not only physically but academically.

Instead, go to them to reason with them. Find out the issue. Communicate your feelings and make them understand you and you too try to understand them.

No teacher, well, maybe some and very few at that will ever single your child with the aim of maltreating them.

Even some, will have their best interests at heart while punishing them severely but don't know that they are crossing your personal line.

Communicate this to them peacefully. Don't even let your child to be in the same room while this is going on.

My one piece

I totally understand how u feel and u are 100% correct but believe me parent nowaday are adding to the problem
Saying dont beat their child but in class this kids is d headache of all while to the mother they are holy

If you've ever known what it means to teach a group of students, you'll know never to single yourself out as an example.

Children learn at different paces. Some pick up reading in primary 3, some in primary 4 and some will never master it even after secondary school.

Secondly, yes some teachers are not qualified. In fact I started teaching right after my waec while waiting for admission to the university.

While I don't have the official qualification, there was nothing above me to teach the primary students.

Maybe I could have been a better teacher if I had gotten the qualifications but at the time, I was the best option they had and so was employed.

One of the teachers in the secondary school (we had jss 1-3) once called me to explain atoms to the students because in her words she didn't do science but is supposed to teach science.

Same as another time a boy once argue with the female teacher and he was right but she kept insisting. I could have interfered but I never did.

So yes, issues of qualifications are there. But they've always been there. My uncle who was a government primary school teacher back in the day and taught us, was retired from the army where he picked up reading from his colleagues.

That was his only qualifications back then and he did the job well until his retirement.

Teaching primary school is not some rocket science.

Go to any primary school today, Most of their teachers are secondary school graduates trying to find their feet or waiting for admission.

People are not as eager to teach your kids as much as you think. Because the pay is peanuts.

I was earning 6k then a month plus teaching primary 5 (all subjects) and jss 1-3 their maths, basic science and intro tech (I was the only science student in the school).

You think a graduate will be queuing up to accept such pay? Schools are scared of increasing school fees not to scare parents away. And so cannot pay these teachers well.

The school owner later offered to bump my pay but then I became too tired and also had gotten my admission.

Thirdly, most primary school especially in private schools today have extra lessons which starts immediately after school time (2-4pm).

They are often mandatory nowadays and added to school fees. It's never because the teachers are terrible, it's more of an adopted practice.

Even then, other schools do send their kids to our school then for the extra lesson especially those in public schools. They will go home, eat sharp and then come and join my class. I had about 4 of them.

My younger sister after her normal school hour have her own lesson teacher who comes to our house as a private teacher.

I really don't think you have a point, I'm just rather chanced today which is why I'm replying any and everyone.

Weathered:
you forgot to add most teachers these days are grossly unqualified. NCE remains the minimum standard for a teacher which you didn't have.

Private schools are business not learning places.

In my primary school there was no lesson then. No need for it. Teachers were sound. I was reading very well in primary three.

Today you and your fake schools are imposing lesson from primary school. Does it mean your students are dull or there's something wrong in the process?

I understand your point ma.

Personally while teaching my mantra has always been never to draw blood or cause any form of bodily injury.

In fact, any time I discipline the kids, I always start with the weakest one, you have to know how much he can bear (in my case it was a girl).

She can cry eh.

Also, if I'm a teacher today, honestly I'm never touching any child again whether they do anything, it's written notes only to their parents and the school management.

It's not worth it at all.

kenysbabe:
Hello,

Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts on this. I agree that children should be corrected and disciplined when they do something wrong, but discipline must be handled appropriately and within proper boundaries. If a child violates school policy, disobeys instructions, or behaves in a way that affects others, then it is understandable for the school to address it.

However, in this particular case, I do not believe the teacher’s action was appropriate. The child’s hair did not even appear overgrown, and he looks very young. If the teacher felt the hair needed to be cut lower, the proper thing to do would have been to send a note or message to the child’s parents. A teacher is a guardian only while the child is in school, but that does not give her the right to take such a personal matter into her own hands.

I have read several people say that if parents do not want their children disciplined, they should homeschool them. In this case, the question is: how was the boy’s hair preventing the teacher from teaching? Was there a health concern, such as lice? If so, the right approach would have been to inform the school authorities and the parents, not to take such drastic action.

I feel strongly about this because something similar happened to my child. I was called from work and told to come to the hospital because my child had been rushed there. A teacher had disciplined him with a sharp object, which tore his forehead. He was only three years old! When I arrived, my child was soaked in blood and tears. It was and still is the most painful experiences for both me and my child. My husband was livid when I told him as he wasn’t in town.

What made it even harder was that the children present were too young to clearly explain what happened, so I never truly got closure. The school authorities and teachers came to my house several times to apologize, and the teacher was eventually let go, but my child still carries the huge scar on his forehead till date because someone felt they had the right to discipline him in a harmful way.

Discipline is important, but it must never cross the line into humiliation, harm, or abuse.

HacheNoire:
You killed it in below paragraphs



You would have observed that kids don’t repeat classes again and everybody kids suddenly became brilliant. I am sure you will have kids who got double promotion in that class and still can’t read.

Parents have become the root cause of the decay in education as they have corrupted and threatened the educational system. There is practically nothing they cannot buy for their kids, from double promotion to admission.

Majority are just wannabe’s who are trying hard to be like their slave masters and why they detest discipline even when it’s glaring to their face that it was worth it.

Can’t you see the quality of graduates we churning out now? They are mostly products of bad and weak parenting, and not never the fault of teachers or schools trying to make profit at the detriment of discipline and delivery.

Anyway, kudos! It’s a beautiful write up!

You said it all. Where I am working now as a security. The owner of the house lives abroad. So recently she gave all the tenants (students) quit notice.
After the last person has parked out. I went into the apartments and was clearing out what most of them left.
I saw some literature books and some school projects.
I kept those ones cus I love reading.
It turns out the particular owner of those books is a Mass Communication students of Ogitech, Ogun state institute of Technology.
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So I began reading most of the books especially her school projects and one particular book that her and her fellow mass com students made a biography about themselves.
Guy you won't believe after reading, I got so angry that I felt like storming their school to find out the department that wrote those biographies.
You won't believe mass com students can't construct and write in good English. I was just reading jargons that almost gave me brain damage.
It was a book that contains eulogies about 10 mass com students, I can tell you for free that it's only one among all of them I could gladly say wrote hers well and I was able to enjoy her write up.
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So just like you said, our education system in Nigeria is so bad that we are churning out dundies in the name of graduate.
I for one dropped out of school in my 2nd year due to circumstances beyond my control back in 2004 and ventured into transportation business.
But I can tell you for free, I can read and write very well.
I can stand in front of any president, governor or whoever and express myself in good English.

SAMBARRY:
keep crying here

Na una type go dey find lawyers and therapist. E pain you abi?

No train your child you hear,na the child go train you

Lol.....keep it up okay you'll soon be able to sleep better at night....this is called classic creating one's happiness....keep the entertainment going kiddo you'll soon be there. .

SAMBARRY:
I support appropriate discipline of a child and if you know you don't want that for your child, home school your child yourself

Was such contract agreed upon by the school authorities and the parents to barb their child without their consent or there any law that permits such in Nigeria?.

And also stop dodging my question and get straight to the point let me know the kind of person I am dealing with.....are you in support of extrajudicial justice system....Yes or No?.

Don't mind them.

Gbadugbakun:
No teacher has the right to barb the hair of a child without the consent of the parents. If you try that with my child you're going to jail because I'll pay influencers to drag you and the school on social media and say that you use children's hair for rituals that's why you barb them without their parents consent.

Then I'll have the teacher arrested for rituals, she'll be remanded in jail while investigations go on. God help you if my child falls sick during that period, your own don be.

Just focus on your teaching and leave the kids alone.


Edit: ‎Its clear that many Nigerian don't understand what discipline truly means. I've been receiving emotional quotes with regards to my opinion. No wonder the world sees us as a jungle.
‎
‎I never Said discipline is bad I said shaving a child's hair without the consent of the parents is totally wrong and shouldn't be counted as discipline. Please try to read and understand with your head before quoting me.
‎
‎If you're a teacher in Europe or America would you shave a child's hair without informing the parents, you'll loose your license as a teacher and go to jail. There are some nonsense I cannot tolerate as a parent.

HacheNoire:
You killed it in the paragraphs below



You would have observed that kids don’t repeat classes again and everybody kids suddenly became brilliant. I am sure you will have kids who got double promotion in that class and still can’t read.

Parents have become the root cause of the decay in education as they have corrupted and threatened the educational system. There is practically nothing they cannot buy for their kids, from double promotion to admission.

Majority are just wannabe’s who are trying hard to be like their slave masters and why they detest discipline even when it’s glaring to their face that it was worth it.

Can’t you see the quality of graduates we churning out now? They are mostly products of bad and weak parenting, and not never the fault of teachers or schools trying to make profit at the detriment of discipline and delivery.

Anyway, kudos! It’s a beautiful write up!

Kudos to OP for a job well done. Teachers are seeing premium ṣege from parents cause I'm in the system. I don't know from what lens parents are viewing from; but why would a teacher single out a pupil with the intent of meting out hatred to them? It doesn't make sense!

You see this rot has been in existence for long. I served in the year 2001. We, some Corp members, and I were in the Zonal Inspector's office, and one of us asked me if I could help her with a write-up on culture, a task assigned to her by her boss, who was serving with one of the state commissioners. I don't know why she asked me, but I collected the paper and in a few minutes, I was done. (Those were not AI days). I didn't know the ZI was eavesdropping on me. He asked to see the article afterwards and he nodded appreciatively. He went on to scold my friend wondering why she couldn't write a line by herself.

I became the ZI's unofficial PA, he moved me from my PPA to some place close to his office. I did a lot of stuff for him. I became his friend such that I got away with many things, even going AWOL. He said there's nothing he couldn't do for me. He was stunned that many graduates couldn't even respond to a query. So that rot has been in existence for a long time, and dare I say it's getting worse now. There is practically no part of Nigeria that is untouched by the corruption that we now wear as a tag. Everybody needs to do better.

Gbadugbakun:
Can you go to Europe as a teacher and barb the hair of a child without informing the parents, you'll go to jail.

Some of you just argue unnecessary. If my child's hair isn't in line with the schools policy, it's your responsibility as a teacher to inform me, not taking matters into your hands. As such act isn't discipline it's oppression.

Stop using Europe as a moral compass

Europe is in steep decline due to moral decadence

It's annoying u kept using the "Europ" example

What's enviable about their morality ?

HacheNoire:
You are game!

Back then, when I mess up and face disciplinary actions, I am alway nice to that teacher so he won’t report me to my parents cos my parent detest nonsense.

The day I hit a girl and was flogged and still made to weed a large portion of land, and my teacher still reported me to my parents on visiting day. My dad used slaps to embarrass me in front of teachers and students. That’s where I started having an idea that you never raise hands on a woman. Cos the way I was dealt with was different from any of the previous and subsequent fwck ups.

Parents of today would have been defending me and probably beat the teacher up.

The thing is the teachers don't explore legal options cos if they do those parents would also be in jail for assault and battary

Host78:
If you've ever known what it means to teach a group of students, you'll know never to single yourself out as an example.

Children learn at different paces. Some pick up reading in primary 3, some in primary 4 and some will never master it even after secondary school.

Secondly, yes some teachers are not qualified. In fact I started teaching right after my waec while waiting for admission to the university.

While I don't have the official qualification, there was nothing above me to teach the primary students.

Maybe I could have been a better teacher if I had gotten the qualifications but at the time, I was the best option they had and so was employed.

One of the teachers in the secondary school (we had jss 1-3) once called me to explain atoms to the students because in her words she didn't do science but is supposed to teach science.

Same as another time a boy once argue with the female teacher and he was right but she kept insisting. I could have interfered but I never did.

So yes, issues of qualifications are there. But they've always been there. My uncle who was a government primary school teacher back in the day and taught us, was retired from the army where he picked up reading from his colleagues.

That was his only qualifications back then and he did the job well until his retirement.

Teaching primary school is not some rocket science.

Go to any primary school today, Most of their teachers are secondary school graduates trying to find their feet or waiting for admission.

People are not as eager to teach your kids as much as you think. Because the pay is peanuts.

I was earning 6k then a month plus teaching primary 5 (all subjects) and jss 1-3 their maths, basic science and intro tech (I was the only science student in the school).

You think a graduate will be queuing up to accept such pay? Schools are scared of increasing school fees not to scare parents away. And so cannot pay these teachers well.

The school owner later offered to bump my pay but then I became too tired and also had gotten my admission.

Thirdly, most primary school especially in private schools today have extra lessons which starts immediately after school time (2-4pm).

They are often mandatory nowadays and added to school fees. It's never because the teachers are terrible, it's more of an adopted practice.

Even then, other schools do send their kids to our school then for the extra lesson especially those in public schools. They will go home, eat sharp and then come and join my class. I had about 4 of them.

My younger sister after her normal school hour have her own lesson teacher who comes to our house as a private teacher.

I really don't think you have a point, I'm just rather chanced today which is why I'm replying any and everyone.

I was expecting you to turn your response into another class room moment and you didn't disappoint.

WatchYourSix:
How can you just be flogging someone in the road who ddnt commit any crime in the name of discipline . And you think this is okay…?

Yall are just used to violence from your folks since childhood, so u see it as a norm

Thank God we're enjoying democracy,else military regime are more strict with orderliness. I don't support violence as I wasn't brought up in it,my dad only flogged me twice as a child till I grew up cos my parents prefer dialogue. If an adult wants to be treated like one then he/she should act like it

U

Gbadugbakun:
No teacher has the right to barb the hair of a child without the consent of the parents. If you try that with my child you're going to jail because I'll pay influencers to drag you and the school on social media and say that you use children's hair for rituals that's why you barb them without their parents consent.

Then I'll have the teacher arrested for rituals, she'll be remanded in jail while investigations go on. God help you if my child falls sick during that period, your own don be.

Just focus on your teaching and leave the kids alone.


Edit: ‎Its clear that many Nigerian don't understand what discipline truly means. I've been receiving emotional quotes with regards to my opinion. No wonder the world sees us as a jungle.
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‎I never Said discipline is bad I said shaving a child's hair without the consent of the parents is totally wrong and shouldn't be counted as discipline. Please try to read and understand with your head before quoting me.
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‎If you're a teacher in Europe or America would you shave a child's hair without informing the parents, you'll loose your license as a teacher and go to jail. There are some nonsense I cannot tolerate as a parent.

Ado atata ebot.

First of all, you talked about receiving "emotional quotes" .... But in your post, you said that you will lock up a teacher for cutting your ward's hair.. What do you call that?

Secondly, you are comparing Nigeria to Europe.

Are you in Europe?


Mtcheeewww. You're just making noise man!

Mattswaggz:
Lol.....keep it up okay you'll soon be able to sleep better at night....this is called classic creating one's happiness....keep the entertainment going kiddo you'll soon be there. .

I slept like a beautiful princess but I can't say the same about you since you've been doubling down on your tears,trying to push for parents disgracing themselves in their children's schools

Parents that need parenting themselves

And for the records, my children are in the university behaving decent and self respecting.results I get from their lecturers.i don't need to go to their school because I raised independent, decent,sensible children not the ones dressing like touts from secondary school with scruffy hair


You sef try and rest.you don try

Oyinbo wannabe, rest,you hear

Mattswaggz:
Was such contract agreed upon by the school authorities and the parents to barb their child without their consent or there any law that permits such in Nigeria?.

And also stop dodging my question and get straight to the point let me know the kind of person I am dealing with.....are you in support of extrajudicial justice system....Yes or No?.

if there was an existing law and the parents were informed but they still chose to disobey,why cry if e pain the parents that much take the matter to court.its as simple as that

Na because we dey in a generation where pikin dey born pikin na wetin cause all these tears

flexyrule:
UAdo atata ebot.

First of all, you talked about receiving "emotional quotes" .... But in your post, you said that you will lock up a teacher for cutting your ward's hair.. What do you call that?

Secondly, you are comparing Nigeria to Europe.

Are you in Europe?


Mtcheeewww. You're just making noise man!

leave am make he dey boast

Na for social media chicken dey boast of having teeth and cats boasting of flying

Major7:
Thank God we're enjoying democracy,else military regime are more strict with orderliness. I don't support violence as I wasn't brought up in it,my dad only flogged me twice as a child till I grew up cos my parents prefer dialogue. If an adult wants to be treated like one then he/she should act like it

exactly.

Chris225:
The thing is the teachers don't explore legal options cos if they do those parents would also be in jail for assault and battary

exactly o.e don so master them that's why there's an influx of clueless and ignorant parents

Chris225:
Stop using Europe as a moral compass

Europe is in steep decline due to moral decadence

It's annoying u kept using the "Europ" example

What's enviable about their morality ?

no mind .Europe wey don dey turn 3rd world country gradually

placeofallure:
Kudos to OP for a job well done. Teachers are seeing premium ṣege from parents cause I'm in the system. I don't know from what lens parents are viewing from; but why would a teacher single out a pupil with the intent of meting out hatred to them? It doesn't make sense!

You see this rot has been in existence for long. I served in the year 2001. We, some Corp members, and I were in the Zonal Inspector's office, and one of us asked me if I could help her with a write-up on culture, a task assigned to her by her boss, who was serving with one of the state commissioners. I don't know why she asked me, but I collected the paper and in a few minutes, I was done. (Those were not AI days). I didn't know the ZI was eavesdropping on me. He asked to see the article afterwards and he nodded appreciatively. He went on to scold my friend wondering why she couldn't write a line by herself.

I became the ZI's unofficial PA, he moved me from my PPA to some place close to his office. I did a lot of stuff for him. I became his friend such that I got away with many things, even going AWOL. He said there's nothing he couldn't do for me. He was stunned that many graduates couldn't even respond to a query. So that rot has been in existence for a long time, and dare I say it's getting worse now. There is practically no part of Nigeria that is untouched by the corruption that we now wear as a tag. Everybody needs to do better.

the way some parents are feeling entitled to gross foolishness, they will soon pay teachers and principals for their kids to be doing exam at home while they're watching TV TV with a glass of drink.nor be all these premature parents wey dey sag trousers again?

SAMBARRY:
if there was an existing law and the parents were informed but they still chose to disobey,why cry if e pain the parents that much take the matter to court.its as simple as that

Na because we dey in a generation where pikin dey born pikin na wetin cause all these tears

Keep it up.....you're almost there kiddo.... don't stop, keep the firing burning okay. .