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Re: Regional Government 2027 by lawani(m): 11:44am On Jun 09
WizardOfNG:
My point is simple. ND region suffer the brunt of oil exploration and commercial extraction that has negatives for oil-rich communities.

They should receive more to deal with how their communities have become Nigeria's transactional asset.

Also, it is condemnable a nation claiming to host many brilliant and educated people is focused mainly on oil and gas when we have so much to utilise becoming rich and privileged.
While they can argue for the well heads in their farms, the ones that are miles offshore is in another category entirely and the majority of Nigerian crude is gotten offshore. It is wrong for Nigeria to depend on oil but it is not wrong for government to take the oil as is done in most countries. Would you say individuals should take the oil? Government is not wrong to take the oil but they are wrong to have depended on it for decades. Government is no longer dependent on it. Then which ever government tier is controlling the assets, there is a sharing formula that favors the states bearing the oil. It is just like having a huge stake in a company without being the CEO. Bill Gates today is not the CEO of the Microsoft that he founded but he is gaining from there. You can give the assets to the states to manage while retaining the sharing formula and the difference will not be very significant
Re: Regional Government 2027 by WizardOfNG: 1:15pm On Jun 09
lawani:
While they can argue for the well heads in their farms, the ones that are miles offshore is in another category entirely and the majority of Nigerian crude is gotten offshore. It is wrong for Nigeria to depend on oil but it is not wrong for government to take the oil as is done in most countries. Would you say individuals should take the oil? Government is not wrong to take the oil but they are wrong to have depended on it for decades. Government is no longer dependent on it. Then which ever government tier is controlling the assets, there is a sharing formula that favors the states bearing the oil. It is just like having a huge stake in a company without being the CEO. Bill Gates today is not the CEO of the Microsoft that he founded but he is gaining from there. You can give the assets to the states to manage while retaining the sharing formula and the difference will not be very significant
You don't understand my point. I believe ND officially deserves more for being the Goose laying the golden eggs.

Nigeria boxed herself into a corner not developing her human resources appropriately so it can take advantage of our many and abundant natural endowment to be as developed as Singapore God has not blessed as Nigeria.

The oil wealth of the ND belongs to Nigeria but, in the spirit of fairness, they should be properly compensated for being the source of Nigeria's mono-economy wealth.

Moving on from that, and as a businessman raised and educated in the UK since age 13, I see wealth and success is easy to to create in Nigeria.

What we lack is human resources optimally trained to literally pluck solutions abundantly around him/her and create magic. That is what we should invest in optimally.

If I were Governor of a State, say Ogun State both my parents are from, I would invest heavily in high-quality education and vocational training.

I would even facilitate exchange schemes for quality educators from the UK to come and teach/train Nigerians while our people go over there too to acquire high level skills to transform Ogun State.

Japan did it successfully. Our human resources is too poor to the extent it is depressingly inneficient at identifying solutions for Nigerian problems and we have to deploy foreigners.

I am even currently working on engaging UK property building expert to create a vocational training college in Nigeria to standardize high quality level of artisan skill for the construction industry.

Not Rocket science but current challenge is that the money has to be right because those with skills have to be paid what they are worth as expatriates.

We are failing because most Nigerians leaders don't understand that training/educating Nigerians optimally, as Awolowo did, can revolutionise our nation.

Re: Regional Government 2027 by esnbrutality: 1:45pm On Jun 09
You learn and aspire to win more than loosing.

Being fulfilled is relative as regards individual goals...

..but...supporting nonsense to have satisfaction is demonic and essentially myopic.

Nuff Said


WizardOfNG:
Small boy, listen and learn. Life is about winning and being fulfilled. Not beefing and fighting others as you have been indoctrinated to believe.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by esnbrutality: 2:07pm On Jun 09
Human development capital is paramount in wealth creation and advancement of any society. Nobody disputes that at all.....and based on that submission the SE has shown equitably that they are the most advanced intellectually.

I ask, on what planet does a criminal like Tinubu pass all the yardsticks to be called president and supported by low-level thinkers like you guys?

Comparing and supporting Tinubu in particular defeats your facade of being exposed or educated. You can't makeup shallow and myopic reasoning with long useless epistles.

Failures...


WizardOfNG:
I keep advising you to develop your critical thinking yet you never listen. Oil and gas must be utilised well but human resources, that can create solutions, defines life.

Anyone still unintelligently shouting oil and gas is simply at a rudimentary level of understanding what life is about.

I have always supported Niger Delta, feeding our nation, to get more from their oil and gas because I know the rest of Nigeria must regain the discipline and focus that made our definitive political leaders of old achieve so much before oil and gas wealth arrived.

With Cocoa wealth, Awolowo did so much to the extent modern day politicians should hang their head in shame.

Oil and gas wealth has been a curse to us and it is only your sort who do not understand that. We must try and return to a time Nigerians tried to be innovative and create solutions from what everyone has instead of the entire nation focusing on oil and gas wealth alone.

We created a mono-economy around crude oil. That's the main reason Nigeria is messed up today.

You all claim to have uni degrees and even Masters. How difficult is it for you all to understand we need to create a brain economy instead of you all focusing on and bragging about mineral endowment alone?

The quality and solutions-provision capacity of human resources is what matters most per the capacity of a nation to become rich and developed.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by WizardOfNG: 2:09pm On Jun 09
esnbrutality:
You learn and aspire to win more than loosing.

Being fulfilled is relative as regards individual goals...

..but...supporting nonsense to have satisfaction is demonic and essentially myopic.

Nuff Said
Lol. I see you are being more polite in talk. At least some sign of progress. Maybe you are not beyond redemption.

Nigeria's main problems revolve around how we failed to do what we must for decades. The rot has become grave and deeply entrenched. .

We then expect it can be reversed overnight. It took Singapore, a former colony of the UK as we are, around 30 years of reform to become the developed nations she is today.

British folks are even moving to Singapore for better lives.

Personally, I mean well for all Nigerians, potentially great nation full of wonderful people, but we should also be reasonable enough, as adults, to familiarise ourselves with the nature of our main problems so we appreciate the solutions..
Re: Regional Government 2027 by esnbrutality: 2:17pm On Jun 09
I dont mean well for NIGERIA because it's irredeemably lost. You can't support TINUBU and still shout 1 NIGERIA based on leeching resources and annexing wealth to your region. Moreover being polite to people like you is an insult. cool


WizardOfNG:
Lol. I see you are being more polite in talk. At least some sign of progress. Maybe you are not beyond redemption.

Nigeria's main problems revolve around how we failed to do what we must for decades. The rot has become grave and deeply entrenched. .

We then expect it can be reversed overnight. It took Singapore, a former colony of the UK as we are, around 30 years of reform to become the developed nations she is today.

British folks are even moving to Singapore for better lives.

Personally, I mean well for all Nigerians, potentially great nation full of wonderful people, but we should also be reasonable enough, as adults, to familiarise ourselves with the nature of our main problems so we appreciate the solutions..
Re: Regional Government 2027 by WizardOfNG: 2:18pm On Jun 09
esnbrutality:
Human development capital is paramount in wealth creation and advancement of any society. Nobody disputes that at all.....and based on that submission the SE has shown equitably that they are the most advanced intellectually.

I ask, on what planet does a criminal like Tinubu pass all the yardsticks to be called president and supported by low-level thinkers like you guys?

Comparing and supporting Tinubu in particular defeats your facade of being exposed or educated. You can't makeup shallow and myopic reasoning with long useless epistles.

Failures...
How is Tinubu a "criminal" as you claim? Also, I don't believe you truly understand Nigeria and her complexities leaders have to navigate.

Tinubu means well for all Nigerians. That is a fact. Yes I can agree Nigerians are not having it easy today and that bothers me.

Yet it cannot be any other way because of what many previous leaders have failed to do for decades creating institutional and entrenched socio-economic decay that will need at least 20 years of reforms to turn around.

You are a stubborn boy sha so I don't expect you to see my point.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by WizardOfNG: 2:22pm On Jun 09
esnbrutality:
I dont mean well for NIGERIA because it's irredeemably lost. You can't support TINUBU and still shout 1 NIGERIA based on leeching resources and annexing wealth to your region. Moreover being polite to people like you is an insult. cool
Just show one post where I "shout 1 NIGERIA". The main problem of Nigeria is that we do not wish to accept we are very different and wrongly lumbered together by Lugard and the Brits.

I am a fan of a return of Nigeria to regionally autonomous governance.

Finally, what wealth is the SW "annexing"? Do you know how much wealth the region creates independently? Look, read and learn to.speak based on verified facts. Not what others tell you.

Re: Regional Government 2027 by esnbrutality: 2:31pm On Jun 09
Tinubu opened his unwashed mouth and made promises that he can't keep.

He was duly rejected by people and had to steal the election to annex power.

Just stay on your lane with your lame excuses for a man that said if he doesnt provide electricity that people shouldn't vote him.

He will be voted out and if you gather your crew to disrupt the obvious aspirations of the people, you will be consumed by LOCUSTs.

Nuff Said


WizardOfNG:
How is Tinubu a "criminal" as you claim? Also, I don't believe you truly understand Nigeria and her complexities leaders have to navigate.

Tinubu means well for all Nigerians. That is a fact. Yes I can agree Nigerians are not having it easy today and that bothers me.

Yet it cannot be any other way because of what many previous leaders have failed to do for decades creating institutional and entrenched socio-economic decay that will need at least 20 years of reforms to turn around.

You are a stubborn boy sha so I don't expect you to see my point.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by WizardOfNG: 2:33pm On Jun 09
esnbrutality:
Tinubu opened his unwashed mouth and made promises that he can't keep.

He was duly rejected by people and had to steal the election to annex power.

Just stay on your lane with your lame excuses for a man that said if he doesnt provide electricity that people shouldn't vote him.

He will be voted out and if you gather your crew to disrupt the obvious aspirations of the people, you will be consumed by LOCUSTs.

Nuff Said
Lol. My mistake believing you are capable.of.civil exchanges. Have a nice day.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by esnbrutality:
Ask your chatgpt...what NIGERIA is known for as regards foreign exchange income earners.

When you want to rave about SW, stay focused on only LAGOS. That was built by every tribe as the former capital territory.

Why NOT tell us about IGR of states like OYO..EKITI..and co? Aren't they SW again?

Go sleep...you ain't smart..at all. cool




WizardOfNG:
Just show one post where I "shout 1 NIGERIA". The main problem of Nigeria is that we do not wish to accept we are very different and wrongly lumbered together by Lugard and the Brits.

I am a fan of a return of Nigeria to regionally autonomous governance.

Finally, what wealth is the SW "annexing"? Do you know how much wealth the region creates independently? Look, read and learn to.speak based on verified facts. Not what others tell you.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by kedeojo(m): 3:27pm On Jun 09
WizardOfNG:
I keep advising you to develop your critical thinking yet you never listen. Oil and gas must be utilised well but human resources, that can create solutions, defines life.

Anyone still unintelligently shouting oil and gas is simply at a rudimentary level of understanding what life is about.

I have always supported Niger Delta, feeding our nation, to get more from their oil and gas because I know the rest of Nigeria must regain the discipline and focus that made our definitive political leaders of old achieve so much before oil and gas wealth arrived.

With Cocoa wealth, Awolowo did so much to the extent modern day politicians should hang their head in shame.

Oil and gas wealth has been a curse to us and it is only your sort who do not understand that. We must try and return to a time Nigerians tried to be innovative and create solutions from what everyone has instead of the entire nation focusing on oil and gas wealth alone.

We created a mono-economy around crude oil. That's the main reason Nigeria is messed up today.

You all claim to have uni degrees and even Masters. How difficult is it for you all to understand we need to create a brain economy instead of you all focusing on and bragging about mineral endowment alone?

The quality and solutions-provision capacity of human resources is what matters most per the capacity of a nation to become rich and developed.
You are very correct. Awolowo impacted so much lives with cocoa money. it is a big shame when I see some people still talking about controlling the wealth in Nigeria deltan states that others are feeding on. ask them, which Niger deltan state has witness development with the so much money they have received since 1999. Awolowo is not in the league of any politicians dead or living. today no Niger deltan state can boast of the kind of free education awolowo bequeathed on western region when he was governor general and that placed the Yorubas as the pacesetters of education in Nigeria today. Yorubas are very present as decision making in almost the biggest establishment today. it can only be possible because of education. go to the likes of SHELL, CHEVRON, DANGOTE and so many others. we have lack visionary leaders that is why igbos can be celebrating obi for saving money as governor in the midst of poverty.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by WizardOfNG: 3:48pm On Jun 09
esnbrutality:
Ask your chatgpt...what NIGERIA is known for as refards foreign exchange income earner.

When you want to rave about SW, stay focused on only LAGOS. That was built by every tribe as the former capital territory.

Why NOT tell us about IGR of states like OYO..EKITI..and co? Aren't they SW again?

Go sleep...you ain't smart..at all. cool
Whatever. Later.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by lawani(m): 3:55pm On Jun 09
WizardOfNG:
You don't understand my point. I believe ND officially deserves more for being the Goose laying the golden eggs.

Nigeria boxed herself into a corner not developing her human resources appropriately so it can take advantage of our many and abundant natural endowment to be as developed as Singapore God has not blessed as Nigeria.

The oil wealth of the ND belongs to Nigeria but, in the spirit of fairness, they should be properly compensated for being the source of Nigeria's mono-economy wealth.

Moving on from that, and as a businessman raised and educated in the UK since age 13, I see wealth and success is easy to to create in Nigeria.

What we lack is human resources optimally trained to literally pluck solutions abundantly around him/her and create magic. That is what we should invest in optimally.

If I were Governor of a State, say Ogun State both my parents are from, I would invest heavily in high-quality education and vocational training.

I would even facilitate exchange schemes for quality educators from the UK to come and teach/train Nigerians while our people go over there too to acquire high level skills to transform Ogun State.

Japan did it successfully. Our human resources is too poor to the extent it is depressingly inneficient at identifying solutions for Nigerian problems and we have to deploy foreigners.

I am even currently working on engaging UK property building expert to create a vocational training college in Nigeria to standardize high quality level of artisan skill for the construction industry.

Not Rocket science but current challenge is that the money has to be right because those with skills have to be paid what they are worth as expatriates.

We are failing because most Nigerians leaders don't understand that training/educating Nigerians optimally, as Awolowo did, can revolutionise our nation.
Well it's ok to give them more. I even support they control the oil and just pay a percentage to the federal purse but more oil money will not necessarily translate to a better life for their masses. To get transformed, a nation needs to depend on taxes from it's industry and have a high government revenue to GDP ratio with the money spent on improving the HDI, the infrastructure and the economy

However I also believe it is better all income from natural resources such as oil be shared among all UN member nations. It isn't fair to keep income from such resources to only a few nations

Then there is a good side to everything and the good side to a country having a large diaspora is that they will also have a large talent pool that can even bring more talent home from among their friends where they work

Nigerians today are on a much better footing than where Japan was when Japan started. There are professionals, also talent but there is a need for investors that will bring technical expertise. The SW, SE, SS and NC are not doing very badly in education but the NW and NE need to buckle up. Some NE and NW states too are not doing very badly. When Japan started in the late nineteenth century they had only rice for export

The first step is to increase the government revenue to GDP ratio substantially as nothing much can be done without substantial financial resources. The current FG is trying but the number of states trying is not up to five. The problem is for now the government and the people see taxation as a punishment which some people should be excused from when tax is just a facility for nation building and when you fix minimum wage you have already added tax to it

Also, the average westerner can not relocate here to be paid the average wage as it used to be decades ago unless the cost of living across the world is equalized. The ones who do for now have special contracts with their employers
Re: Regional Government 2027 by lawani(m): 4:04pm On Jun 09
kedeojo:
You are very correct. Awolowo impacted so much lives with cocoa money. it is a big shame when I see some people still talking about controlling the wealth in Nigeria deltan states that others are feeding on. ask them, which Niger deltan state has witness development with the so much money they have received since 1999. Awolowo is not in the league of any politicians dead or living. today no Niger deltan state can boast of the kind of free education awolowo bequeathed on western region when he was governor general and that placed the Yorubas as the pacesetters of education in Nigeria today. Yorubas are very present as decision making in almost the biggest establishment today. it can only be possible because of education. go to the likes of SHELL, CHEVRON, DANGOTE and so many others. we have lack visionary leaders that is why igbos can be celebrating obi for saving money as governor in the midst of poverty.
Before the Action Group there was civilization and development in Yoruba land and many ethnic groups in Nigeria that were not ruled by the AG are doing very well now. The Okun Yoruba were not in the west and they are reportedly the most educated group in Nigeria today with the highest number of Prof per Capita. Offa was not in the west and they are said to be the single town with the highest number of Profs. The AG tried but they stood on thousands of years of civilization to achieve what they achieved. My grandfather was one of them too from inception to the end. He was the first organizing secretary Chief J O Lawanson. All of them including the late Aare ona Kakanfo and second Premier Chief Ladoke Akintola did their very best.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by gidgiddy: 4:10pm On Jun 09
Cabalgeneral:
After the 2027 presidential election in Nigeria, I think the next thing for president Ahmed Bola Tinubu to do is to enshrined the regional government in Nigeria.

The north, the central, the south east, south west and the Niger Delta, let every region appoint their leaders that will be in charge of the governing body.

Niger delta resources will not be used to be feeding other people's in the name of a fake one Nigeria, and it is going to be enforced by force by the Niger Delta indigenous people.

The Era of free resources is getting over.
Don't hope on Tinubu to restructure Nigeria, he will never do it. The simple reason to know that Tinubu has no intentions of restructuring Nigeria is that if he did not do it in his first term, or at least start the process in his first term, he won't do it in his second term

Anyone who is serious about restructuring Nigeria will not wait for second term to do it
Re: Regional Government 2027 by yemmit90: 5:05pm On Jun 09
WizardOfNG:
My point is simple. ND region suffer the brunt of oil exploration and commercial extraction that has negatives for oil-rich communities.

They should receive more to deal with how their communities have become Nigeria's transactional asset.

Also, it is condemnable a nation claiming to host many brilliant and educated people is focused mainly on oil and gas when we have so much to utilise becoming rich and privileged.
Blame the Niger delta leaders who has for ages been embezzled what meant for the development of the region. 13% derivative is more than monthly alocation of many states, yet you keep crying that you don't benefit more from the oil exploitation in your region.

Regionalism is better because it will make your leaders to look inward and develop their cities. And contrary to your believe, only an inland oil facilities can be awarded 100% to the producing states, offshore oils are federal government property, which can be used as intervention fund, foreign affair and national armies.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by wordcat(m): 5:14pm On Jun 09
Good idea but you should first understand that Niger Delta is not a region. The six regions we have are the North East, North West, North Central, South East, South West and South South.
Re: Regional Government 2027 by yemmit90: 5:16pm On Jun 09
gidgiddy:
Don't hope on Tinubu to restructure Nigeria, he will never do it. The simple reason to know that Tinubu has no intentions of restructuring Nigeria is that if he did not do it in his first term, or at least start the process in his first term, he won't do it in his second term

Anyone who is serious about restructuring Nigeria will not wait for second term to do it
Tax reform

State police

Decentralization of power generation.

Decentralization of NDA and barracks.

Decentralization of CBN

Development commissions for each zone.

Coaster networks roads to link the regions.

Local government autonomy

Are all antecedents of true federalism. I think he stopped because of the way Northerners reacted to tax reform, which could jeopardize his second term ambition.
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