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Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by GreenCovering: 7:53pm On Jun 11
No criminal gangs can hide under the noses of the locals or more acquainted with the terrain than the locals. An empowered and organised local security will nip a lot of things in the bud and reverse all of these security challenges.

Thank you HOR and God bless you all
God bless Nigeria
smiley
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by press9jatv(m): 7:57pm On Jun 11
Restructuring is taking shape under Tinubu leadership. State Police has come to stay
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Okoroawusa: 7:59pm On Jun 11
Sugarboyy:
In the US, are the state police positions you mentioned here elected positions?
Yeah. In some American towns, the Sheriff is elected.
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Mightym: 8:00pm On Jun 11
writetopoka:
No they should have waited for me to come and pass it for them. Till this country tumbles upside-down, before they will learn to do the right things.

ndi-iberibe
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Kobojunkie: 8:08pm On Jun 11
GreenCovering:
No criminal gangs can hide under the noses of the locals or more acquainted with the terrain than the locals. An empowered and organised local security will nip a lot of things in the bud and reverse all of these security challenges.
Thank you HOR and God bless you all God bless Nigeria smiley
You forget that the northern Fulani who now occupy many of the security posts in most local communities are also acquainted with the terrain? If they also occupy many of the posts in the local police, imagine what that would mean for this local militia then. undecided
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Vision101(m): 8:47pm On Jun 11
princepee:
smiley smiley Nonsense...
Na now day break
They should have kept playing politics with it.
This bill have been on for over two years
But it's easy for them to pass Old national anthem....
Bunch of crazy mofos
This proposal has been on for decades. If it finally materializes it will be another major restructuring by PBAT. Step by step Nigeria of our dream is being coupled.
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Vision101(m): 8:55pm On Jun 11
Kukutente23:
Why should the national police council appoint commissioners of police for the states
Why not have state police councils and why should state police not be headed by inspector generals instead of commissioners? I hope they are not trying to make commissioners of police ultimately subservient to the Federal police
The governor appoints on the recommendation of national police council and the state house of assembly approves.

State commissioner of police and inspector general of police - just nomenclature. He is still in charge of the entire police structure of the state irrespective of the nomenclature. He's answerable primarily to the governor and state house of assembly.
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Kobojunkie: 9:00pm On Jun 11
Vision101:
➜The governor appoints on the recommendation of national police council and the state house of assembly approves.
State commissioner of police and inspector general of police - just nomenclature. He is still in charge of the entire police structure of the state irrespective of the nomenclature. He's answerable primarily to the governor and state house of assembly.
Meaning the power over the state is retained by the federal government in this? How is that a good thing? undecided
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by INTEGRITYA1(m): 9:02pm On Jun 11
The proposal empowers governors to issue lawful directives to State Commissioners of Police on matters relating to public safety and order.

However, where a commissioner believes such directives are unlawful or inconsistent with accepted policing standards, the matter may be referred to the National Police Council, whose decision would be final.


The above quoted portion is to checkmate the State Governors and to reduce their power.

All things being equal, the bill should be helpful in combacting criminalities and insecurity issues.
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Kobojunkie: 9:06pm On Jun 11
INTEGRITYA1:
The above quoted portion is to checkmate the State Governors and to reduce their power. All things being equal, the bill should be helpful in combacting criminalities and insecurity issues.
It rather takes power away from the local to give to the Federal, something that is contrary to what the Constitution itself suggests ought to be the case. But of course, many who support the current regime don't care much that the power is centralized in the Federal and away from the people. undecided
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by GreenCovering: 9:06pm On Jun 11
Kobojunkie:
You forget that the northern Fulani who now occupy many of the security posts in most local communities are also acquainted with the terrain? If they also occupy many of the posts in the local police, imagine what that would mean for this local militia then. undecided
Local policing is primarily constituted by the indigenes of that locality. It is essentially empowering them to be the strongest force within their own community rather than being left helpless in the face of intel, movements and eventual attacks by these non state actors. So it won't be state policing again if recruits are posted from Abuja or something. Also with empowerment comes proactiveness rather than an endless wait for a chain of command to be activated from Abuja before a deployment can be made every time something suspicious is noticed around. State governors have explained how times without number they were snubbed or undermined after escalating critical security intelligence before attacks occurred. I am sure they would have been more proactive if they had had at least a certain level of organised deployment that they could put out at such times, that is, if they were not already undercutting the capacity for these actors to move into positions and eventually launch attack on innocent citizens.
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Kobojunkie: 9:08pm On Jun 11
GreenCovering:
Local policing is primarily constituted by the indigenes of that locality. It is essentially empowering them to be the strongest force within their own community rather than being left helpless in the face of intel, movements and eventual attacks by these non state actors. So it won't be state policing again if recruits are posted from Abuja or something. Also with empowerment comes proactiveness rather than an endless wait for a chain of command to be activated from Abuja before a deployment can be made every time something suspicious is noticed around. State governors have explained how times without number they were snubbed or undermined after escalating critical security intelligence before attacks occurred. I am sure they would have been more proactive if they had had at least a certain level of organised deployment that they could put out at such times, that is, if they were not already undercutting the capacity for these actors to move into positions and eventually launch attack on innocent citizens.
These claims are baseless! undecided
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by GreenCovering: 9:10pm On Jun 11
Kobojunkie:
These claims are baseless! undecided
Talk is cheap sad
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by iwadobo: 9:12pm On Jun 11
Tinubu na their oga
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Kobojunkie: 9:16pm On Jun 11
GreenCovering:
➜Talk is cheap sad
That's what that means. undecided
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by GreenCovering: 9:21pm On Jun 11
Kobojunkie:
That's what that means. undecided
Let it take off then. No time for long talk again. Also applies.
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by omenuwad(m): 9:55pm On Jun 11
Can governors pay police, hope they will not be holding them salary at the end Nigeria will suffer for it. Hmm hope police will not suffer want civil servants are suffering ok time will tell. Welcome on board police
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by b3llo(m): 10:14pm On Jun 11
Kukutente23:
Why should the national police council appoint commissioners of police for the states
Why not have state police councils and why should state police not be headed by inspector generals instead of commissioners? I hope they are not trying to make commissioners of police ultimately subservient to the Federal police
They wont be subservient to the IGP... Do you know that IGP cannot wake up and order CP to do anyhow because 2 cant be foolish at the same time
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by favor914: 10:33pm On Jun 11
callmetade:
The four that voted against it should be impeached, arrested and locked up for 10years while also freezing all of their Bank accounts.
I hope u & kobojunkie have plans of enrolling in the state police force? if not u should be arrested and locked up for 10years while also freezing all of your Bank accounts.
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Kukutente23: 10:54pm On Jun 11
b3llo:
They wont be subservient to the IGP... Do you know that IGP cannot wake up and order CP to do anyhow because 2 cant be foolish at the same time
You simply know nothing about your police
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by callmetade: 11:02pm On Jun 11
favor914:
I hope u & kobojunkie have plans of enrolling in the state police force? if not u should be arrested and locked up for 10years while also freezing all of your Bank accounts.
do I have to be a police,.. I like my job
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Coolgent(m): 11:20pm On Jun 11
Earthstorms:
Hope they made the positions of police commissioners, Area commanders and DPOs elective positions.

The police to be accountable to the people and not to politicians as is the case in the US and other developed countries.
Unfortunately their appointment would be best on state Governor political interest!
And they may be use against opposition party
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Kanwulia: 11:28pm On Jun 11
Pretending to work at the last minute?
Criminals.🙄
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Vision101(m): 12:08am On Jun 12
Kobojunkie:
Meaning the power over the state is retained by the federal government in this? How is that a good thing? undecided
No, the state authorities eg governor is a member of national police council. This is different from the present Police Service Commission. The PSC recommends senior federal police appointments to the president while National Police Council NPC recommends senior state police appointments.

Details are still evolving. The bill when passed will just amend the constitution. The present Police Act will be unbundled and amended. The operational mode of the federal and state police will be clearly spelt out in the new Police Act.
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Wande22(m): 12:40am On Jun 12
painfully true
Kobojunkie:
The two-tier policing you have at the national level will trickle down to the state level, given that Sharia remains enshrined in the constitution. What this means is that there will remain one law for Islamists and terrorists and another law for non-Islamists even at the state level. undecided

You better hold on to your local militia groups until you are sure you have completely removed Sharia from the Constitution of the nation. Otherwise,... lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Wande22(m): 12:44am On Jun 12
For instance Amotekun I haven't seen a non-yoruba as an Amotekun Operative unlike LNSC (Lagos Neighbourhood Safety Corps) that has a minuscule percentage of their workforce as non-yorubas/non-indigenes
Kobojunkie:
You forget that the northern Fulani who now occupy many of the security posts in most local communities are also acquainted with the terrain? If they also occupy many of the posts in the local police, imagine what that would mean for this local militia then. undecided
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by Kobojunkie: 1:20am On Jun 12
Wande22:
➜For instance Amotekun I haven't seen a non-yoruba as an Amotekun Operative unlike LNSC (Lagos Neighbourhood Safety Corps) that has a minuscule percentage of their workforce as non-yorubas/non-indigenes
I am not in some way suggesting it be restricted to only Yoruba indigenes. Rather, I am suggesting that a thorough background check and numerous tests be run to ensure non-Nigerians and non-Islamic terrorists are not recruited. After all, there are probably individuals local to Lagos who may be sympathetic to the cause of the Islamic terrorists ravaging Nigeria. You don't want them to make it into the State Police force, even as we know they have fully embedded themselves into the National Police force. undecided
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by lawani(m):
Even now the police don't work as if they are under one command
One lawyer wanted to evict me from a mall, he then went to the Area command Moore in Ile Ife and they refused him saying he should file a civil suit. He then went to the AIG zone 11 or so in Osogbo and they came from there to arrest me in Ile Ife and I would have spent the weekend there in Osogbo if not that my parents came from Ilesa with a letter from a retired AIG who also spoke with them on phone.

At the end of the day he had to file a civil suit which he lost.

Any government tier should be able to establish a police service and if they overdo themselves they will pay through their noses. That is why lawyers are there.
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by MIKOLOWISKA: 4:37am On Jun 12
WizardOfNG:
If Tinubu wants it passed, and I believe he does, the Senate will accede. Believe that.
if fulani no gree nko
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by MIKOLOWISKA: 4:38am On Jun 12
Gbadugbakun:
Watch how they'll be clashing with normal police because of road blocks and bribes. Infact I see them abandoning their sole responsibility fighting with the police on who to man state roads. grin
why will federal police clashl with state about state roads
Re: House of Reps passes State Police Bill by vuc1(m): 5:12am On Jun 12
Good development.
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