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Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by CaseSensitive(m): 10:59am On Jun 15
QuinQQ:
The difference is that Irsn's wing has been clipped (last thing on their mind is nuclear wespons), Ayatollah and all those who tortured civilians are dead, and US controls WHAT Iran spends money on.
Iran's wing has been clipped? Ah right Ok, great insight, nice one 👍
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by XTruth: 11:01am On Jun 15
These deal was force just to prevent a retaliation on Israel yesterday.

Still don't trust the USA.

Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by XTruth: 11:03am On Jun 15
Lol 😂.
Imagine having a nuclear weapon you can't use.

And you think if everything goes back normal Iran won't improve the missile capability. And drones.




QuinQQ:
The difference is that Irsn's wing has been clipped (last thing on their mind is nuclear wespons), Ayatollah and all those who tortured civilians are dead, and US controls WHAT Iran spends money on.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by josielewa(m): 11:04am On Jun 15
IT DOENT MATTER. THE SITES HAS BEEN INSPECTED NUMEROUS TIMES BY THE IAEA THAT IRAN HAS NO WEAPON GRADE ENRICHMENTS. IRAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN OPEN ABOUT THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM BUT ISRAEL WILL SAY OTHERWISE. WHAT HAS THIS WAR ACHIEVED., NOTHING AND A DEAL IS ON THE TABLE EVEN FAVORING IRAN MORE. WHY THE WAR IF USA CLAIM THAT IT HAS DESTROYED IRAN ENRICHMENTS LAST YEAR. THAT IS TO TELL YOU THAT ITS ALL LIES
ForChrist1:
How can Obama deal be the best when it has enabled Iran to enrich Uranium to weapons grade?
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Realist777: 11:05am On Jun 15
Watcharena:
TACO paid billions of dollars to reopen straight of Hormuz that was open before the war. Trump has already given Iran more than 4times what Obama gave them.
Are you sure?
What about their supreme leader and all the top officials who lost their lives together with so many facilities destroyed by trump!
I'm not a pro US but let's not employe emotions here
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by OGOLMEKZ95: 11:05am On Jun 15
mikeapollo:
President of the United States
'POTUS' AND NOT 'PONTUS'.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Smartguyboy(m): 11:06am On Jun 15
Venezuela could have stand they ground they just chicken out and allow USA to kidnap their president and steal they oil , has they economy improved the USA instead a puppet government NO
It even getting worse .

Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Mattswaggz: 11:07am On Jun 15
josielewa:
THEIR NUCLEAR ENRICHMENTS ARE STILL INTACT. THEY WILL HAVE NO OPTION THAN TO STALL IT. ISRAEL WILL COME AGAIN TOMORROW TO SAY IRAN HAS 1000 NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND THE BOMBING WILL CONTINUE. REMEMBER IRAQ 2003
They will hand them over or destroy them in the presence of the US....or do you think the US is dvmb enough to allow them handle everything themselves?. grin grin grin .
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Focusmind: 11:09am On Jun 15
Iran should gladly accept this proposal if it is what is on the table

Trust me, the Iranian economy would boom beyond measure, with billions of dollars pouring in and goodwill

Nuclear weapons wont provide food on the table of the people. Economic power remains one of the most powerful means of economic development and emancipation.

Switzerland, Luxemburg and Scandinavian countries are not nuclear power but enjoys the highest quality of living in the world.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by ForChrist1: 11:09am On Jun 15
josielewa:
IT DOENT MATTER. THE SITES HAS BEEN INSPECTED NUMEROUS TIMES BY THE IAEA THAT IRAN HAS NO WEAPON GRADE ENRICHMENTS. IRAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN OPEN ABOUT THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM BUT ISRAEL WILL SAY OTHERWISE. WHAT HAS THIS WAR ACHIEVED., NOTHING AND A DEAL IS ON THE TABLE EVEN FAVORING IRAN MORE. WHY THE WAR IF USA CLAIM THAT IT HAS DESTROYED IRAN ENRICHMENTS LAST YEAR. THAT IS TO TELL YOU THAT ITS ALL LIES
And what was the report of the inspections?
Iran enriched uranium to about 60% which is far above what is needed for civilian electricity generation. At that rate, they were only months away from an actual nuclear weapon.
This is what the JCPOA enabled but Trump's war has dislocated the effort.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by dermmy(m): 11:10am On Jun 15
saysoo:
Obama empowered them, Trump destroyed all and setting a big trap for them with the next PONTUS to finish cause of time.
If Trump destroyed them he won't come back to sit down with them.on the negotiation table again. Someone you destroyed would always be at your mercy but that is not the case here. Iran still retain the ability to strike US bases and interest across the region. In this case Trump is suing for a deal he didn't want to make at the outset and he must make concessions whether he likes it or not.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by dermmy(m): 11:11am On Jun 15
ForChrist1:
And what was the report of the inspections?
Iran enriched uranium to about 60% which is far above what is needed for civilian electricity generation. At that rate, they were only months away from an actual nuclear weapon.
This is what the JCPOA enabled but Trump's war has dislocated the effort.
Iran increased enrichment up to 60% because Trump unilaterally pulled U.S out of the deal and reimposed sanctions. Iran is not bound to remain in the deal when America has walked out. Even if you as a Christian violate the terms of your covenant with God, God will not be bound to remain in the covenant.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by XTruth: 11:13am On Jun 15
Israel done sell una these lie.
If nor be say Hezbollah
Operate drones that captured everything they would have still lied about they casualties.

Imagine Hezbollah killing them in occupied territory but Iran missiles didn't kill anyone of them lol.

These was the reason Israel attack beruit yesterday

Realist777:
Are you sure?
What about their supreme leader and all the top officials who lost their lives together with so many facilities destroyed by trump!
I'm not a pro US but let's not employe emotions here

Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Titogbanski: 11:16am On Jun 15
President Barack Obama’s 2015 agreement with Iran was the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). Often called the Iran Nuclear Deal, it was a landmark accord between Iran and the P5+1 (the United States, UK, France, Russia, China, plus Germany) designed to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.Under the agreement, Iran agreed to the following key terms:

Nuclear Limits: Dismantle much of its nuclear program and reduce its enriched uranium stockpile by 98%.

Centrifuge Reductions: Dismantle two-thirds of its installed centrifuges (the machines used to enrich uranium) and cap enrichment levels to 3.67%, well below what is needed for a nuclear weapon.

International Inspections: Allow unprecedented 24/7 access for the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to monitor its nuclear supply chain, mills, and mines.

In exchange, the international community provided:

Sanctions Relief: The lifting of billions of dollars' worth of nuclear-related economic and oil sanctions.

Snap-back Mechanism: Provisions allowing world powers to immediately re-impose the sanctions if Iran violated the terms of the deal.

You can read the full historical details and documents from the Obama White House archives on The 2015 Iran Nuclear Deal.

Note: The United States withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018, though international diplomatic efforts and negotiations regarding Iranian nuclear capabilities and sanctions have continued.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Olatundex22(m): 11:17am On Jun 15
QuinQQ:
Nonsense. Iran is destroyed. They sustained loss of life and property in the trillions. They'll have access to $25b not that it will be released and they can only spend it on certain things.
Last thing on Iran's mind for a very long time is Nuclrar weapons - unlike b4 the war
Nonsense. All USA military bases in Middle East are destroyed loss billions of dollars in military equipment, aircraft, air defense systems in almost every country in middle Earth and they still agreed on building Iran back. In short time of the war Iran make billions in tolls from ships . What did USA get in this war all their plans failed, government change failed, putting puppet in Iran failed, to steal the uranium failed, to steal oil failed, to stop the unclear program still on negotiation. So what did America-Israel gain from the war
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Heffalump(m): 11:18am On Jun 15
Flangelo12:
You mean he sent Amerixan soldiers to die for what Obama got without a gunshot.
What a calamity of s president.
Obama thought he was dealing with human beings. He wasted so much American dollars without achieving anything. It was an enabler for Iran to progress their nuclear program and deepen missile technology. Iran is a very stubborn country. The only country that understands how to deal and manage them is Israel. They have the unspeakable panacea or antidote to Iran's madness.

This current agreement will not achieve anything in the long-term. Iran will never give up their nuclear ambition. The only way to stop them is total obliteration and conquest. Change the leadership from IRGC to a more liberal and pro democratic system.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by UrVillageChief: 11:20am On Jun 15
Flangelo12:
You mean he sent Amerixan soldiers to die for what Obama got without a gunshot.

What a calamity of s president.
No, he sent American soldiers to take out Ayatollah that Obama couldn’t take out in order to pave way for more reasonable agreement 🤣
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by XTruth: 11:25am On Jun 15
Yes USA is dumb enough.


Mattswaggz:
They will hand them over or destroy them in the presence of the US....or do you think the US is dvmb enough to allow them handle everything themselves?. grin grin grin .

Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Amovingman: 11:26am On Jun 15
Israel vs USA war soon
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by richeeyo(m): 11:27am On Jun 15
EnkayDezign:
As in. Na d guy hatred for Obama cause all this nonsense.

Now he will pay $25b on top of all the other concessions and losses incurred. What a shame and total disaster of a president.
Which school did you go
The $25b is Iranian asset
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by UrVillageChief: 11:29am On Jun 15
DomPerignon:
Iran gets everything it needs through land shipment via Pakistan.

They can survive for years without the straits being opened to shipping but other Gulf kingdom states that rely on everything from food to basically everything can't.
Why are they agreeing to signing this deal then?🤣 They war should continue and the strait closed since you seem to know better than the Iranians.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Safyqueen: 11:30am On Jun 15
donleo92:
I dey wait make those i-ranian military army of Nigeria branch in alimosho say otherwise grin grin grin

We know say them, sabi twaytin they happen for Iran pass the actual people way dey irangrin

Iran can never and will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon grin

That's a threat to the whole middle east.

But their sympathizers in oshodi and Muslim will think and say otherwise wink
Are you not ashamed that the Almighty US is brought to its knee by a country that's a fraction of US and under sections for decades?

Iran is not under pressure to develop nuke as their former supreme leader warned them of having weapons of such degree of destruction.

But necessities will definitely drive them to acquiring it in the nearest future whether anyone like it or not.

Iran has become a leader in the middle east, thanks to Israel and USA.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by dederocs(m): 11:30am On Jun 15
It's because of Americans and the elections, democrats are using the war against him, but Trump is doing the right thing, for the world and it's freedoms/progress
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by XTruth: 11:30am On Jun 15
Lol 😂 😂 the anger is just that Iran retaliated.

Obama deal still has the USA military Base around Iran but no more.

You are giving them $300b. For rebuilding.

The stright of homus will now be tolled by Iran and oman.


You know how stupid it's imagine saying your are attacking Iran not to have a nuclear weapon because of a nuclear power Israel.

They just want Iran to be a puppet.

If Iran get a nuclear weapon Saudi arabia too will try getting one, petrodollar might be threatening

Heffalump:
Obama thought he was dealing with human beings. He wasted so much American dollars without achieving anything. It was an enabler for Iran to progress their nuclear program and deepen missile technology. Iran is a very stubborn country. The only country that understands how to deal and manage them is Israel. They have the unspeakable panacea or antidote to Iran's madness.

This current agreement will not achieve anything in the long-term. Iran will never give up their nuclear ambition. The only way to stop them is total obliteration and conquest. Change the leadership from IRGC to a more liberal and pro democratic system.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by TheStoriesOfMan: 11:31am On Jun 15
Olatundex22:
Nonsense. All USA military bases in Middle East are destroyed loss billions of dollars in military equipment, aircraft, air defense systems in almost every country in middle Earth and they still agreed on building Iran back. In short time of the war Iran make billions in tolls from ships . What did USA get in this war all their plans failed, government change failed, putting puppet in Iran failed, to steal the uranium failed, to steal oil failed, to stop the unclear program still on negotiation. So what did America-Israel gain from the war
Which money are they making from tolls? The money they can't access within the SWIFT baking system? Money they can't use to rebuild their economy?

Lol.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by donleo92(m): 11:34am On Jun 15
Safyqueen:
Are you not ashamed that the Almighty US is brought to its knee by a country that's a fraction of US and under sections for decades?

Iran is not under pressure to develop nuke as their former supreme leader warned them of having weapons of such degree of destruction.

But necessities will definitely drive them to acquiring it in the nearest future whether anyone like it or not.

Iran has become a leader in the middle east, thanks to Israel and USA.
Bros transformer dey close,

You fit go hug one, If e pain you
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by Heffalump(m): 11:36am On Jun 15
XTruth:
Lol 😂 😂 the anger is just that Iran retaliated.

Obama deal still has the USA military Base around Iran but no more.
You are giving them $300b. For rebuilding.
The stright of homus will now be tolled by Iran and oman.
You know how stupid it's imagine saying your are attacking Iran not to have a nuclear weapon because of a nuclear power Israel.
They just want Iran to be a puppet.
If Iran get a nuclear weapon Saudi arabia too will try getting one, petrodollar might be threatening
I don't struggle to educate those who choose ignorance over common sense. Everyody knows what Iran is capable of doing or currently doing now, except some ignorant ones who are led by sentiments.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by donleo92(m): 11:37am On Jun 15
josielewa:
SOMEONE LIKE donleo92 will disagree with you. AMERICA FOUGHT A SENSELESS WAR UNDER DONALD TRUMP, WHEN THEY KNOW THEIR OBJECTIVES HAS NOT BEEN ACHIEVED WHICH IS THE IRANIAN URANIUM ENRICHMENT. THE ENRICHMENTS ARE STIL INTACT EVEN WHEN AMERICA CLAIMED IT USED ITS B2 BOMBER TO DESTROY IT.
Do Iran have a leader??

How far their military infrastructurehuh


Defence systems nkorhuh

They play.

Iran will be needing billions of dollars for them go get back to their former state cheesy
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by UrVillageChief: 11:38am On Jun 15
Smartguyboy:
Venezuela could have stand they ground they just chicken out and allow USA to kidnap their president and steal they oil , has they economy improved the USA instead a puppet government NO
It even getting worse .
At least, the US didn’t kill their President like it did to that certain world power. Its Supleme leader is not alive today to witness his country’s fantom victory🤣
A wise man lives to fight another day. If the Ayatollah and Larijani were wise men, they would have gone the Venezuelan way of not fighting who’s superior to them. To what end? They lost both human and material assets and everything is ending on the negotiation table and in handshakes.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by planetx: 11:39am On Jun 15
And this werey will always be criticizing Barrack Hussein Obama for giving Iran money, but he is giving them 10x the amount Obama gave them, without Iran giving up nothing except just playing him and saying they will discuss the nuclear issue later. What a freaking loser this guy is.
Re: See Why Trump Is Pushing For Iran signed agreement by XTruth: 11:43am On Jun 15
Lol maybe yourself and hundreds on nairaland are ignorant on that.

First was they fired directionless missiles.
Maybe everyone agrees that the former leader was just holding them back.





Heffalump:
I don't struggle to educate those who choose ignorance over common sense. Everyody knows what Iran is capable of doing or currently doing now, except some ignorant ones who are led by sentiments.
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