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delpee:
Lagos Territory did not go beyond Yaba. When I was young, the Welcome to Western Region signboard was at Fadeyi. There was no expressway, so we went through Ikorodu/Sagamu and Ijebu Ode to get to Ibadan. Those roads, industrial estates and housing estates on the mainland after Yaba/Surulere were all built by the Western Region government.

The first TV station, south of the Sahara in Africa was built by the Western Region government. That is the root of today's NTA.

There are many more.... Let's just say that those who cancelled History as a subject at a point in time have succeeded in allowing wrong narratives to thrive.

If you took out the time to read my entire post what I simply said was the seeds for Lagos development were sown solely by the British, when they left in 1960 Lagos was still the Capital of Nigeria Up till 1991. So the Military Governments gave Lagos IBB BRIDGE, Carter bridge was built in 1901 was it the Oduduwa who built it ? 1970 it was rebuilt and reopened , Third Mainland bridge from 1978-1990 built at a time when Lagos was the Capital of Nigeria.

The British and The Federal Government built Lagos then Lagos took over and extended the development.

If the Oduduwa built Lagos why did they fail to build Ogun, Ondo, Oyo to the Level of Lagos ?

Kalulu44:
Don't speak for others, speak for yourself. You and few people avoid them but some majority still interact and do business with them.
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Without mincing words, I know of countless Yorubas in Lagos here that praises Igbos for uplifting them both in business and financial standing.
Honestly, you're being economical with the truth. You don't want to admit hate but you're avoiding them and even as far as not doing business with them. My friend just admit it, that's pure hate.

Go and read up the list of Nigerian prisoners that were sent to Nigeria from Ethiopian prison where about 120 out of the 136 are Igbos. Does that mean Ethiopia hates Igbos

KobolanderSegun:
If you took out the time to read my entire post what I simply said was the seeds for Lagos development were sown solely by the British, when they left in 1960 Lagos was still the Capital of Nigeria Up till 1991. So the Military Governments gave Lagos IBB BRIDGE, Carter bridge was built in 1901 was it the Oduduwa who built it ? 1970 it was rebuilt and reopened , Third Mainland bridge from 1978-1990 built at a time when Lagos was the Capital of Nigeria.

The British and The Federal Government built Lagos then Lagos took over and extended the development.

If the Oduduwa built Lagos why did they fail to build Ogun, Ondo, Oyo to the Level of Lagos ?

Why didn't the British build Abakaliki and Aba? Why Lagos?

Predictor3:
Why didn't the British build Abakaliki and Aba? Why Lagos?

If you take out a map of Africa you will see that the only way to get to Nigeria was through ship. Look at map of Nigeria and you notice Lagos is the closest place to the West of Nigeria meaning ships passed by Lagos first before they got to Portharcourt.

Choosing Lagos was because it was the closest place in Nigeria to Britain by Ship.

Port Harcourt was founded in 1912 by the British colonial administration under Sir Frederick Lugard. It was built specifically as a strategic port-town to export coal discovered in Enugu by geologist Albert Ernest Kitson.

The Naming and the Land
The Name: In August 1913, Lugard officially named the settlement after Lewis Vernon Harcourt, the British Secretary of State for the Colonies.

The Land Acquisition: The colonial government acquired farmlands and fishing settlements belonging to the indigenous Diobu village group (Ikwerre) and the Okrika-Ijaw group to construct the port and railway terminal.

Strategic Infrastructure
The Railway: The Eastern Line Railway was completed in 1916. It linked Enugu’s coal mines directly to the Bonny River port. This route transformed the area into a massive imperial transport hub
World War I: During the First World War, the British military utilized the newly built port as a primary base for operations against German forces in neighboring Kamerun (Cameroon).
Economic Rise: By 1926, the volume of coal and palm oil exports made Port Harcourt the second-largest port in Nigeria, trailing only Lagos.

Colonial Urban Footprint
Aggrey Road (Old Township): This was one of the earliest areas developed for European traders and colonial officials. Structures like the Port Harcourt Post Office were built with wide verandas, tall ceilings, and corrugated iron sheets designed to withstand the humid Niger Delta climate.

Segregation and Layouts: The British implemented distinct zoning laws. They created the "European Quarter" (which later evolved into the Old GRA) to separate colonial administrators from the high-density local quarters li
The colonial era effectively ended after the 1956 discovery of crude oil in nearby Oloibiri and Nigeria's subsequent independence in 1960, shifting the city's identity from a British coal port to Africa's "Oil Capital "
The architectural remain British infrastructure in AbaBritish infrastructure in Aba British infrastructure in Aba laid the foundational blueprint for the city's growth from a cluster of villages into a premier commercial and manufacturing hub. Initiated as a military post in 1901 and a district headquarters in 1903, this colonial legacy is still visible today through key elements:The Railway System: The British Colonial Government constructed the Enugu-Port Harcourt rail line in 1915/1916. It was built to extract agricultural cash crops like palm oil, and quickly transformed Aba into a vital commercial collection and transit point.Town Planning and Layout: Early British administration established a structured town planning format. Government Road, the railway line, and the central administrative heart of the city (such as the District Officer’s quarters) formed the structural foundation that guided Aba's early expansion.Drainage and Canals: The colonial authorities introduced set building permits and a rudimentary system of canals, deep sewers, and gutters for flood water control.Administrative and Native Courts: The British relocated their district headquarters from Akwete to Aba in 1903 and built administrative buildings adapted for the tropical climate, alongside establishing native and district commissioner's courts.While this infrastructure established Aba's economic standing, it was primarily designed for resource extraction and colonial control rather than the long-term welfare of the local population.

Dalohad:
Illbliss is too smart to make such statement.

I am sure this fake news is from one rabid Bulaban looking to cause their usual mischief with propaganda.

If Ill-bliss denies it tommorow, he will not post the denial..

We know how they think because we have studied them for donkey years.

Expect more of these propaganda fake news from the stables of APC bulabans as we move closer to election days.

They are only good at campaigning with ethnically inflammatory propaganda and fake news..

That is his official Twitter account and he tweeted unprovoked! BTW, he is not smart as a supposedly smart Sam Amadi even uttered that Igbos should govern Lagos.

stuffs2002:
Go and read up the list of Nigerian prisoners that were sent to Nigeria from Ethiopian prison where about 120 out of the 136 are Igbos. Does that mean Ethiopia hates Igbos

What concerns somebody serving prison term for a crime he or she committed and hate.
Do the crime and do the time, there's no hate there but the law serving it's purpose.
So don't shift goalpost here.

stuffs2002:
The bolded is very doubtful but since you are an OBIDIENTS I will just accept it for what say it is.

There you and your ilks go again. You guys are always d*mb to assume anyone who doesn't support this government or is an easterner is automatically "Obidients"
That's a weird thinking you know.
Have you even ask me if I have anything to do with politics?
What concerns the hate and love topic we are discussing now with Obidients.

KobolanderSegun:
If you take out a map of Africa you will see that the only way to get to Nigeria was through ship. Look at map of Nigeria and you notice Lagos is the closest place to the West of Nigeria meaning ships passed by Lagos first before they got to Portharcourt.

Choosing Lagos was because it was the closest place in Nigeria to Britain by Ship.

Port Harcourt was founded in 1912 by the British colonial administration under Sir Frederick Lugard. It was built specifically as a strategic port-town to export coal discovered in Enugu by geologist Albert Ernest Kitson.

The Naming and the Land
The Name: In August 1913, Lugard officially named the settlement after Lewis Vernon Harcourt, the British Secretary of State for the Colonies.

The Land Acquisition: The colonial government acquired farmlands and fishing settlements belonging to the indigenous Diobu village group (Ikwerre) and the Okrika-Ijaw group to construct the port and railway terminal.

Strategic Infrastructure
The Railway: The Eastern Line Railway was completed in 1916. It linked Enugu’s coal mines directly to the Bonny River port. This route transformed the area into a massive imperial transport hub
World War I: During the First World War, the British military utilized the newly built port as a primary base for operations against German forces in neighboring Kamerun (Cameroon).
Economic Rise: By 1926, the volume of coal and palm oil exports made Port Harcourt the second-largest port in Nigeria, trailing only Lagos.

Colonial Urban Footprint
Aggrey Road (Old Township): This was one of the earliest areas developed for European traders and colonial officials. Structures like the Port Harcourt Post Office were built with wide verandas, tall ceilings, and corrugated iron sheets designed to withstand the humid Niger Delta climate.

Segregation and Layouts: The British implemented distinct zoning laws. They created the "European Quarter" (which later evolved into the Old GRA) to separate colonial administrators from the high-density local quarters li
The colonial era effectively ended after the 1956 discovery of crude oil in nearby Oloibiri and Nigeria's subsequent independence in 1960, shifting the city's identity from a British coal port to Africa's "Oil Capital "
The architectural remain British infrastructure in AbaBritish infrastructure in Aba British infrastructure in Aba laid the foundational blueprint for the city's growth from a cluster of villages into a premier commercial and manufacturing hub. Initiated as a military post in 1901 and a district headquarters in 1903, this colonial legacy is still visible today through key elements:The Railway System: The British Colonial Government constructed the Enugu-Port Harcourt rail line in 1915/1916. It was built to extract agricultural cash crops like palm oil, and quickly transformed Aba into a vital commercial collection and transit point.Town Planning and Layout: Early British administration established a structured town planning format. Government Road, the railway line, and the central administrative heart of the city (such as the District Officer’s quarters) formed the structural foundation that guided Aba's early expansion.Drainage and Canals: The colonial authorities introduced set building permits and a rudimentary system of canals, deep sewers, and gutters for flood water control.Administrative and Native Courts: The British relocated their district headquarters from Akwete to Aba in 1903 and built administrative buildings adapted for the tropical climate, alongside establishing native and district commissioner's courts.While this infrastructure established Aba's economic standing, it was primarily designed for resource extraction and colonial control rather than the long-term welfare of the local population.

This is exactly what I wanted to hear. Geography, geography, geography! Lagos enjoys that and no one can take that away. So naturally, wether we like it or not Lagos will always be above every other place in Nigeria in terms of investment.

KobolanderSegun:
What is 1960 ? The British made Lagos the capital in 1914. They Annexed Lagos in 1861. That means the British where in Lagos for 101 years. They lived in Lagos, Portharcourt and Jos extensively. I'm talking History and you are talking politics. Ask yourself why Ogun state, Oyo State has lagged behind in development. Why did Ogun state get it's Flyover bridge under Amosan in just 2013.

If the Yoruba were so good at development why is Lagos such a sharp contrast to places like Kogi, Oyo, Ondo ?

For vehicular infrastructure, the Odo-Ogun Bridge along the Oyo–Iseyin road is one of the oldest major river bridges in the state. Originally constructed around 1950 by the British colonial administration, it underwent a comprehensive reconstruction and expansion by the Oyo State Government.Additionally, while it is a road rather than a bridge, the Ibadan–Oyo Town road built in 1906 holds the historic title of the first road for motorized vehicles

Lagos is not a sharp contrast to Oyo for instañce. The only difference is Lagos has a more pro active government than Oyo. Lagos also has a higher population now which was not so in the past. After Lagos the second highest number of hotels is in Oyo despite that NIN registration data says Ogun now has a higher population than Oyo. Oyo still has more expensive neighborhoods than Ogun too and they rank next to Lagos. If Oyo sits up today, they will surpass Rivers not to talk of Ogun state in igr. Oyo state alone is generating more than double the value added tax paid by the whole SE. Osun state has more of everything like hotels, banks, bakeries, smes and etc than any SE state apart from Anambra. Did you even use any data at all to arrive at the conclusion that only Lagos is ok in the SW? In the whole southern Nigeria the next city after Lagos is Ibadan after which it is PH. What is true however is that the government headquartered in Ibadan is not doing enough by way of generating revenue

KobolanderSegun:
If you took out the time to read my entire post what I simply said was the seeds for Lagos development were sown solely by the British, when they left in 1960 Lagos was still the Capital of Nigeria Up till 1991. So the Military Governments gave Lagos IBB BRIDGE, Carter bridge was built in 1901 was it the Oduduwa who built it ? 1970 it was rebuilt and reopened , Third Mainland bridge from 1978-1990 built at a time when Lagos was the Capital of Nigeria.

The British and The Federal Government built Lagos then Lagos took over and extended the development.

If the Oduduwa built Lagos why did they fail to build Ogun, Ondo, Oyo to the Level of Lagos ?

It is simple common sense that the British collected tax in Lagos to do anything they did in Lagos or do you think they used their own resources?

Predictor3:
This is exactly what I wanted to hear. Geography, geography, geography! Lagos enjoys that and no one can take that away. So naturally, wether we like it or not Lagos will always be above every other place in Nigeria in terms of investment.

Lagos really does not enjoy better geography than many cities on the West African coast

KobolanderSegun:
If you took out the time to read my entire post what I simply said was the seeds for Lagos development were sown solely by the British, when they left in 1960 Lagos was still the Capital of Nigeria Up till 1991. So the Military Governments gave Lagos IBB BRIDGE, Carter bridge was built in 1901 was it the Oduduwa who built it ? 1970 it was rebuilt and reopened , Third Mainland bridge from 1978-1990 built at a time when Lagos was the Capital of Nigeria.

The British and The Federal Government built Lagos then Lagos took over and extended the development.

If the Oduduwa built Lagos why did they fail to build Ogun, Ondo, Oyo to the Level of Lagos ?

If Lagos were an undeveloped village, the British would not have taken it seriously. You mention bridges built in Lagos, what about Onitsha bridge and other bridges across major Rivers around the country? Lagos has more population than the SE but I think the SE should have up to five times more federal spending. There is nothing special done for Lagos that was not done in other places and if any state has been cheated that would be Lagos because if oil states are being paid derivation why not port states? Or how is the head of a monkey that much different from that of a baboon?


Every city in Nigeria was patronized according to how they laid their bed. Ibadan got the first university, Ogbomosho even as an independent state or unit of Oyo got the Baptists from the USA to invest there in the nineteenth century and the Methodist church built a big hospital in Ilesa as at the 1930s or so.

It is not too late for any city. Go to your land anywhere it is and develop it. Stop claiming credit for something you didn't do. That you had no capacity at any time to do. Nigeria set back Yoruba land and did not develop it. Do you know the number of Yoruba people scattered around the world? How many Japanese or Koreans or even Ghanaians or Ivoiriens are scattered around the world like that?

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The Wesley guild hospital was established in ilesa even before Nigeria was created

Kalulu44:
There you and your ilks go again. You guys are always d*mb to assume anyone who doesn't support this government or is an easterner is automatically "Obidients"
That's a weird thinking you know.
Have you even ask me if I have anything to do with politics?
What concerns the hate and love topic we are discussing now with Obidients.

You be 100% OBIDIENTS. Why are you denying what is so obvious.
If it barks like a dog, looks like a dog, sleep like a dog, eats like a dog, walk like a dog, it is definitely a dog

Kalulu44:
What concerns somebody serving prison term for a crime he or she committed and hate.
Do the crime and do the time, there's no hate there but the law serving it's purpose.
So don't shift goalpost here.

All these your victim mentality will not work on me because you are so desperate to be victim you are seeing what was not said on this thread.

Also, you have made yourself to love the word hate so much so that you have used it so many times on this discussion far too much and I am begining to feel sorry for you in your desperation to be hated you have been trying to smuggle it into the discussion by all means.

stuffs2002:
You be 100% OBIDIENTS. Why are you denying what is so obvious.
If it barks like a dog, looks like a dog, sleep like a dog, eats like a dog, walk like a dog, it is definitely a dog



All these your victim mentality will not work on me because you are so desperate to be victim you are seeing what was not said on this thread.

Also, you have made yourself to love the word hate so much so that you have used it so many times on this discussion far too much and I am begining to feel sorry for you in your desperation to be hated you have been trying to smuggle it into the discussion by all means.

Lolz! You're a very funny guy. Where in our discussion did I claim been a victim. We're discussing something else and you deliberately throw in people that are in prison in far away Ethiopia claiming they're my people.
And true to myself, I didn't deny they're not my people and also made it clear they should serve the time for whatever crime they committed, e no concern me.
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And coming to the hate topic. Yes I will say it a million times that you're full of hate to the Igbo tribe. Your comments along our conversation has proven it.
For you to agree you don't do business with the Igbo tribes which I know is a lie in the first place, means you're full of hate for them.
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For you to say you rather die than see an Igbo man become president. I don't know what else to call it other than serious hate.
For your information, I am not an Obidient nor a politician. As I am typing this, I don't have voters card and never wish to have.
My first and only time I ever went for a campaign rally was in 1999 campaigning for guess who?
Bola Ahmed Tinubu to become governor of Lagos State.
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But ever since then, there's no government I haven't criticize when they're not performing.
From Obj to Jonathan to Buhari and now Tinubu. So my guy I am not into partisan politics. This our discussion didn't start on politics but two tribes hating each other for no reason.
As I am talking to you without mincing words, I don't believe either Obi, Atiku or the present Tinubu is Nigeria savior.
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Infact the person that will come in next after Tinubu will be worse than him. It has been so since I know myself very well in this country. If someone will tell me that the Nigeria populace will complain of Tinubu more than Buhari I won't believe it.
But it has always been so. We tend to miss the former presidents when a new one come in.
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Lastly, what I want to say now. If I am lying may God not let me see tmrw.
Me and one of my late uncle fought and exchanged words most of the time bcus of Biafra.
He carried Biafra in his head like gala and I hate it and always give him reason why we don't need it. We didn't agree with each other till he passed on.
That's to tell you how liberal and open minded I am.
I am an Igbo but I speak Yoruba fluently and have more Yoruba friends than Igbo my tribe.
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If all what I say here can't convince that I am not a tribal bigot like you then nothing else I can say.

lawani:
If Lagos were an undeveloped village, the British would not have taken it seriously. You mention bridges built in Lagos, what about Onitsha bridge and other bridges across major Rivers around the country? Lagos has more population than the SE but I think the SE should have up to five times more federal spending. There is nothing special done for Lagos that was not done in other places and if any state has been cheated that would be Lagos because if oil states are being paid derivation why not port states? Or how is the head of a monkey that much different from that of a baboon?


Every city in Nigeria was patronized according to how they laid their bed. Ibadan got the first university, Ogbomosho even as an independent state or unit of Oyo got the Baptists from the USA to invest there in the nineteenth century and the Methodist church built a big hospital in Ilesa as at the 1930s or so.

It is not too late for any city. Go to your land anywhere it is and develop it. Stop claiming credit for something you didn't do. That you had no capacity at any time to do. Nigeria set back Yoruba land and did not develop it. Do you know the number of Yoruba people scattered around the world? How many Japanese or Koreans or even Ghanaians or Ivoiriens are scattered around the world like that?

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The Wesley guild hospital was established in ilesa even before Nigeria was created

You are very uninformed the British found a very primitive area Called Lagos that had people living in huts and tiny buildings. The first One story building in Nigeria was created by CMS Christian Missionary Society in 1842. The Africans had never seen a one storey building In their lives before the British showed up. See this person talking about Ibadan getting the first University..... If the British had never come to Nigeria NIgerians would be walking around barefooted up till tomorrow. Even the Portuguese who came to Lagos as far back as 1600 did not build one story buildings but created the first brick buildings in Lagos

Portuguese trade with Lagos before colonial timesPortuguese trade with Lagos before colonial times Before the imposition of colonial rule, Portuguese trade with Lagos centered on the transatlantic slave trade and was facilitated by the Kingdom of Benin. Portuguese explorers first arrived in 1472, but established a formalized trading port in Lagos during the 1760s, exchanging manufactured European goods for enslaved people and local cloth.

Key Aspects of the TradeInitial Contact and Bypassing: When Portuguese navigators first explored the coast, they bypassed the small fishing settlements (then known as Eko) and went directly to trade with the Kingdom of Ijebu.The Benin Connection: By the 16th century, the Benin Empire established a military camp in the area. Lagos became a tributary of Benin, and the Oba (king) of Benin controlled the region's early diplomatic and commercial engagement with European powers.

The Slave Trade Boom:

By the 1760s, Lagos emerged as a major Atlantic port primarily due to the rise of prominent Portuguese merchants—such as Francisco Felix da Souza—who established extensive networks there. The Portuguese traded items like cowrie shells, tobacco, alcohol, and textiles in exchange for captives.

The Naming of Lagos: The indigenous Awori people originally called the settlement Eko. Because of the swampy terrain and surrounding network of lagoons, the Portuguese named the area Lagos de Curamo, after the coastal maritime hub of Lagos in southern Portugal.

The trade fundamentally transformed the region, allowing local rulers to amass significant wealth and influence before the British bombarded and annexed Lagos in the mid-19th century.

The Portuguese where the ones who gave Lagos it's name.

KobolanderSegun:
You are very uninformed the British found a very primitive area Called Lagos that had people living in huts and tiny buildings. The first One story building in Nigeria was created by CMS Christian Missionary Society in 1842. The Africans had never seen a one storey building In their lives before the British showed up. See this person talking about Ibadan getting the first University..... If the British had never come to Nigeria NIgerians would be walking around barefooted up till tomorrow. Even the Portuguese who came to Lagos as far back as 1600 did not build one story buildings but created the first brick buildings in Lagos

Portuguese trade with Lagos before colonial timesPortuguese trade with Lagos before colonial times Before the imposition of colonial rule, Portuguese trade with Lagos centered on the transatlantic slave trade and was facilitated by the Kingdom of Benin. Portuguese explorers first arrived in 1472, but established a formalized trading port in Lagos during the 1760s, exchanging manufactured European goods for enslaved people and local cloth.

Key Aspects of the TradeInitial Contact and Bypassing: When Portuguese navigators first explored the coast, they bypassed the small fishing settlements (then known as Eko) and went directly to trade with the Kingdom of Ijebu.The Benin Connection: By the 16th century, the Benin Empire established a military camp in the area. Lagos became a tributary of Benin, and the Oba (king) of Benin controlled the region's early diplomatic and commercial engagement with European powers.

The Slave Trade Boom:

By the 1760s, Lagos emerged as a major Atlantic port primarily due to the rise of prominent Portuguese merchants—such as Francisco Felix da Souza—who established extensive networks there. The Portuguese traded items like cowrie shells, tobacco, alcohol, and textiles in exchange for captives.

The Naming of Lagos: The indigenous Awori people originally called the settlement Eko. Because of the swampy terrain and surrounding network of lagoons, the Portuguese named the area Lagos de Curamo, after the coastal maritime hub of Lagos in southern Portugal.

The trade fundamentally transformed the region, allowing local rulers to amass significant wealth and influence before the British bombarded and annexed Lagos in the mid-19th century.

The Portuguese where the ones who gave Lagos it's name.

So storey building is your metric for civilization?;There are storey buildings all over built as at when needed. Among the ruins at Ijebu Eredo a three storey building ruin was identified as the palace. If you go to the old Oyo national park, you will see the ruins of storey buildings. In Hausa land today there are still ancient storey buildings. In Timbuctu they are there. You can't have an urban center without storey buildings. What is the big deal in building a storey building? If you have an urban center, you will have storey buildings there
We build in mud that crumble quickly but we still have buildings existing in Yoruba land today still being lived in that were built over one thousand years ago and that are more sturdy than today's buildings. None of today's buildings can last one thousand years. The palace in Akure is over one thousand years old

So Lagos was not a primitive village. It was a city of merchants, well defended by cannons, with huge markets, well educated leaders who knew the world and had relations with South America and Europe. If not that the British were invited they may not have stormed the city.
Lagos was founded according to my research with IFA by a combination of Benin and Ijesa for the purpose of exporting palm oil and they were granted land by the Awori. The Ijesa gave their two slots of foremen to the Portuguese and because of that two chiefs in Lagos are of Portuguese origin while two are Benin. The descendant of the Ijesa priest who went with them was later made King. When the British took Lagos, the language they transacted in would have been Portuguese. So they were a modern state by all ramifications though small.

I initially did not want to reply or further indulge you but I later did so