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| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by AMINDA: 7:46pm On Jun 15 |
seunmsg:Rather, the first time the handle's opinion aligns with yours. The handle has always made sense. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by GoodLife4live: 7:46pm On Jun 15 |
So all these obidense are looking igbo president.. not Nigeria president. We dey wait .. on election day. My vote naa for president Tinubu |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by davinchi(m): 7:53pm On Jun 15 |
This man needs help He is still living in bondage press9jatv: |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by goodman55: 7:55pm On Jun 15 |
This man wey no kw where him belong? Looking for where he will always gain. You should be supporting your own brother Peter Obi but you turned out to becoming his enemy to the seat you were supporting Atiku for. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by deebrain(m): 8:24pm On Jun 15 |
Sir. Please just go and support Tinubu, make we rest. Better still, Nollywood remains your home. I mean, all the interviews granted you were television masterpieces. The way you gesticulate while packaging your lies against your brother Mr Obi, is gold on TV Should we be expecting "Living in Bondage 3"? |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by fineboynl(m): 8:40pm On Jun 15 |
He knows atiku is going no where. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by Godfullsam(m): 8:42pm On Jun 15 |
Ozinlex:He is not coming to APC. He already said he can not support a party that doesn't have an Igbo candidate as either president or at least vice president. NDC is the best bet for him. It remains to be seen if obi can/will pardon him and receive him. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by ponishah: 9:13pm On Jun 15 |
press9jatv:Mumu! Obi's suit don dey fear am |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by Chinonye2022(m): 9:50pm On Jun 15 |
XtremeConsumer:obi wil get more votes than Atiku in Rivers state |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by InvertedHammer: 10:35pm On Jun 15 |
/ Others made billions in Nigerian politics. Kenneth walked home with just one year rent and destroyed his political career finally. ![]() / |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by davidque: 11:06pm On Jun 15 |
Ethnic Jingoist |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by Niwdog(m): 11:33pm On Jun 15 |
AMINDA:You forgot to analyze the 2019 election or 1999,2003,2007, 20011 when they backed the right candidates, Why don't you ask yourself why it is that ever since the South East stopped voting(backing )the candidates that won elections things have gone from frying pan to fire and it's currently looking for hell fire if we fail to choose the right man amongst the three. Elections in Nigeria currently haven't really given the overall best but it always presents us with someone better than the others, between Jonathan and Buhari we all will now agree that Jonathan was a better option, which proves Igbo right, between Buhari and Atiku, believe me, Atiku is better , between Tinubu and Obi I dare say Obi is better, current administration is proving that right |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by stuffs2002: 11:35pm On Jun 15 |
Ozinlex:The last thing anyone can connect Obi with is integrity. * Did Peter Obi not demolished the Onitsha central mosque in Anambra? * Did Peter Obi not deport Northerners from Anambra? * Did Peter Obi not create a register to register Northerners effectively restricting their movements within Anambra? * Did Peter Obi not destroy the Hausa market and then rebuilt it only to give the stores to his Igbo brothers? * Did Peter Obi not used instruments of government to frustrate and destroyed a lot of Hausa businesss all over Anambra? |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by Mayflowa(m): 12:13am On Jun 16 |
HacheNoire:Is Tinubu vice going to be from South East in 2027? |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by onuman: 2:13am On Jun 16 |
AMINDA:It's only a foolish person who will win presidential election but refuses to treat well every region in the country When a person emerges as president of America or PM of Great Britain, the person will not maltreat the regions that did not vote for him/her. In Nigeria most apolitical persons maltreat regions that did not vote for the person to become president or prime minister. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by opeldavid: 4:20am On Jun 16 |
This clown 🤡 should get ready to provide evidence in court!!! |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by jaxxy(m): 4:42am On Jun 16 |
femi4:I think hes more about principles. Most of his decisions have been about principles, He can still make more money from atiku with this configuration but doesnt seem to care for that. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by CharlesCNG: 5:24am On Jun 16 |
press9jatv:Those who spent months abusing Atiku Abubakar, questioning his integrity and treating him as yesterday's man are suddenly outraged by reports surrounding his VP choice. Politics is not conducted in a vacuum. Words have consequences. Loyalty is remembered, but so are insults. Perhaps the bigger surprise is not Atiku's decision, but the expectation that abuse should attract political rewards. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by CharlesCNG: 5:35am On Jun 16 |
Mayflowa:typical obidient's tinubu deflection. Those lamenting the possibility of the South-East being denied the ADC vice-presidential slot should perhaps be more concerned about whether the APC vice-presidential ticket in 2031 will even go to the region. Politics rewards strategy, coalition-building and long memories. It rarely rewards insults, emotionalism and the politics of permanent outrage. If present trends continue, the tragedy may not be 2027, but that the South-East could find itself repeatedly bypassed in 2039 and even 2047 by major parties. That would be unfortunate, because competent leaders like Dave Umahi and Charles Soludo do not deserve to inherit the consequences of years of political self-sabotage. In politics, grievances alone do not secure power. Strategy does. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by Hedonisco: 5:38am On Jun 16 |
AMINDA:Backing the wrong horse like Obasanjo, Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan? Or you wanted Igbos to back disasters like Buhari and Tinubu? Was it a 'wrong horse' when the South East backed Atiku/Obi in 2019, which they actually won, but we're rigged out? This kind of defective and insincere reasoning casts you in very bad light. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by CharlesCNG: 5:40am On Jun 16 |
Niwdog:You have actually made my point for me. If the South-East has consistently identified the "better candidate" since 1999, why has that superior judgment not translated into political power or national influence? Politics is not an IQ test. It is the art of building winning coalitions. Being right and being victorious are two different things. There is also a contradiction in your argument. You insist Peter Obi was the best candidate, yet as things stand today, he cannot become President on the strength of South-East votes or even Obidient votes alone. He can only emerge through a broad coalition with other regions and political interests. Which is precisely the point. Nigeria does not elect presidents by moral superiority but by arithmetic, alliances and accommodation. Nobody is denying the right of the South-East to support whoever it considers the better candidate. The question is whether repeatedly taking positions that leave the region isolated ultimately advances or diminishes its influence. After all, if being right were sufficient, Peter Obi would already be President. The fact that he isn't suggests that politics requires something beyond merely being right. In politics, virtue without strategy is often indistinguishable from self-consolation. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by CharlesCNG: 5:44am On Jun 16 |
Hedonisco:You are proving my point about defective reasoning. Nobody said the South-East should have backed Buhari or Tinubu. The issue is not whether the region chose the morally superior candidate. The issue is whether it has exercised political judgment in a manner that translates into influence and power. You cite Obasanjo, Yar'Adua and Jonathan as if they were "wrong horses", yet those administrations emerged through broad coalitions and actually produced presidents. That is how politics works. You also claim Atiku/Obi won in 2019 but were rigged out. Fine. But what exactly is the lesson? That elections should henceforth be approached with greater coalition-building and strategic thinking, or that everyone else must simply acknowledge your superior judgment? Politics is not an annual examination where marks are awarded for identifying the "best candidate." It is a contest for power. If your preferred candidates repeatedly lose, and your region's leverage continues to diminish, perhaps the time has come for introspection rather than self-congratulation. The irony is that Peter Obi himself cannot become President solely with South-East votes. He requires alliances with the very political actors many of his supporters routinely insult and alienate. That is the contradiction. Being right is not enough. In politics, the ability to build and sustain coalitions is itself a form of judgment. Otherwise, one may end up with the satisfaction of saying "I told you so" while others hold the offices. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by CharlesCNG: 5:49am On Jun 16 |
Godfullsam:That is exactly the problem. Of what strategic value is an Igbo politician leaving one space only to join a mostly Igbo political comfort zone? What new votes does he bring? What new region does he open? What national bridge does he build? Politics is not about gathering people who already agree with you. It is about expanding your reach into places where you are weak. If every Igbo politician runs back to a platform where Peter Obi is already strong, then what exactly has been gained? More applause, perhaps. But not more power. This is the recurring weakness in South-East politics: confusing emotional safety with strategic positioning. A serious politician should ask: where can I increase my region’s bargaining power? Where can I negotiate access? Where can I build alliances outside my natural base? Joining a familiar camp may feel good. But politics is not therapy. It is arithmetic. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by Hedonisco: 5:49am On Jun 16 |
CharlesCNG:Oga you don't have any point. Did the South West vote for Obasanjo in 1999? Their bloc votes were "wasted' on Olu Falae. Since 2003 to 2011, the North West votes were" wasted" on Buhari. So what exactly is your point? Why singling out the South East every time with this vexatious scapegoating? Always saying shit and conjuring useless logic to make Igbos look bad. Just suck it up with this annoying reasoning. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by femi4: 6:11am On Jun 16 |
jaxxy:Moving from pillar to post is principle? Trust politicians at your own peril |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by Chibuezem(m): 6:26am On Jun 16 |
press9jatv:Rotimit Amaechi is Igbo by blood If he becomes president I don't mind but we all know it won't happen anytime soon |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by CharlesCNG: 6:29am On Jun 16 |
Hedonisco:You are actually proving my point while pretending to refute it. Yes, the South-West largely voted for Olu Falae in 1999, yet Obasanjo still became President because he was carried by a broader national coalition. That is exactly the lesson: regional sentiment alone does not win power. Yes, Buhari kept getting heavy North-West votes before 2015, but he only became President when he entered a wider coalition with the South-West and other political blocs. Again, coalition. So what is my point? Simple: no region can produce a Nigerian President by talking to itself alone. This is not scapegoating the South-East. It is political arithmetic. Peter Obi cannot become President on South-East votes and Obidient emotion alone. He needs alliances with people outside his natural base, including people his supporters insult daily. You may not like the point, but insults will not defeat arithmetic. Calling it “useless logic” does not answer the argument. It only confirms that when the facts become uncomfortable, abuse becomes the substitute. Politics is not about who shouts loudest. It is about who builds the widest bridge. Falae proved regional loyalty is not enough. Buhari proved coalition is everything. Obi and you obidients should learn both lessons. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by Mayflowa(m): 6:52am On Jun 16 |
CharlesCNG:I dont know a thing of what you’re talking about. Kenneth mentioned he left because easterner was not on vice-presidential ticket with Atiku. The person I quoted was welcoming him to Tinubu’s party as if there was an easterner on ticket with Tinubu. That was the essence of my question. Logic. I am not in the mood for stories of monkeys and bananas. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by CharlesCNG: 7:02am On Jun 16 |
Mayflowa:Apparently, you are not in the mood for monkeys and bananas, but you are perfectly in the mood for confusion and irrelevance. First, this is Nairaland, not your sitting room. I can comment on any aspect of a discussion I find interesting. I do not require your permission or approval. Second, if you truly understood logic, you would know that responding to one point does not preclude commenting on another. That is how discussions work. Third, spare me the lecture on logic. A man who believes every comment must be confined to the narrow boundaries he approves of is hardly qualified to teach others how to reason. And since you are so fond of dismissing arguments as stories, perhaps you should first learn that debates are won with counterarguments, not with monkeys, bananas and manufactured outrage. The irony is that those who constantly invoke "logic" are often the first to abandon it when confronted with inconvenient points. But by all means, continue. You are providing entertainment if not enlightenment. |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by Justnation: 7:09am On Jun 16 |
Kenneth okonkwo should openly declare support for the great PETER OBI and receive forgiveness from the Igbos |
| Re: Kenneth Okonkwo Withdraws Support For Atiku by CharlesCNG: 7:16am On Jun 16 |
press9jatv:Atiku and the Cost of Obidient Arrogance by CharlesCNG If Atiku Abubakar has truly turned away from a South-East running mate and settled for a South-South option, Obidients should not pretend to be shocked. Politics has consequences. For months, many Obidient voices treated Atiku not as a potential coalition partner, but as an enemy to be humiliated. They insulted his age, mocked his ambition, dismissed his experience, branded him as desperate, and attacked anyone who suggested negotiation with him. Then, after burning the bridge, they expected him to build a road back to them. That is not strategy. That is political childishness. Atiku may have initially considered the South-East for balance, symbolism and coalition value. But why would any serious politician reward a bloc that has spent months abusing him, questioning his legitimacy, and treating him as disposable? Why choose a running mate from a political family whose loudest supporters cannot distinguish between negotiation and insult? This is the deeper lesson. The South-East did not lose leverage only because of marginalisation. Some of its loudest political actors helped destroy that leverage through arrogance, emotionalism and poor coalition manners. Kenneth Okonkwo can now complain about South-East exclusion, but the question remains: where was the strategy when Obidients were insulting Atiku? Where was the discipline when they were attacking everyone whose support they might later need? You cannot abuse Atiku in January, reject him in March, mock his coalition in May, and cry marginalisation in June when he looks elsewhere. Power is not won by permanent outrage. It is won by negotiation, restraint and leverage. Obidients wanted respect without diplomacy. Atiku may have simply answered them in the only language politicians understand: exclusion. |
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