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AntiChristian:
So na Apple icon came from Israel not mobile phone itself?

You this man ....
Without it your phone will not work

Kukutente23:
I want to believe you're not as dæft as you're pretending to be

I said: Without the Jews even Adam won't have been created!

You said: The bolded is true though!
We all know of the story of Adam because of the Jews.

Knowing History because of the Jews doesn't mean the same as "Without the Jews even Adam won't have been created"!

Hope you'll figure out you are too forward, arrogant and largely ignorant.

educatedfool:
I don't have to agree with an ambassador simply because he said it.

A fact is something supported by evidence, not by the job title of the person making the claim.

America declared independence in 1776. Israel was established in 1948. So the claim that "without Israel there would be no America" is literally impossible in a historical sense.

The United States existed for about 172 years before the modern State of Israel was founded.

America was shaped by many influences: Native Americans, Europeans, Africans, scientific discoveries from across the world, and centuries of political and economic development. None of that depends on the existence of a state that was founded in 1948.

If the ambassador meant that Israel is now an important ally of the United States, that's a political opinion that can be debated. But if he meant America would not exist without Israel, that is not a historical fact.

I respect facts, not authority. If tomorrow an ambassador says the moon is made of gold, his title won't make it true.

Was the name israel invented in 1948 when is was made a state? Babylon was never a state but it existed in histtory as a kingdom. ISRAEL was equally a kingdom and existed was b4 its 1948 statehood.

2ndly the ambassador cannot be delusional to say what he said publicly when everyone knows the inquantifiable contributions and influences of the jews to american history, survival and prosperity.

jaxxy:
Was the name israel invented in 1948 when is was made a state? Babylon was never a state but it existed in histtory as a kingdom. ISRAEL was equally a kingdom and existed was b4 its 1948 statehood.

2ndly the ambassador cannot be delusional to say what he said publicly when everyone knows the inquantifiable contributions and influences of the jews to american history, survival and prosperity.

You're moving the goalposts.

I never said the name Israel was invented in 1948. Ancient Israel existed as a kingdom long before that, just as Babylon, Persia, Egypt, and many other ancient kingdoms existed.

The issue is the ambassador's claim that "without Israel, there would be no America."

That's an extraordinary claim, and extraordinary claims require evidence.

No serious historian argues that the existence of ancient Israel was the sole reason America came into existence. America's founding was influenced by English common law, the Enlightenment, Greco-Roman political thought, Native American confederacies, African labor, and countless other factors.

As for Jewish contributions to America, I completely agree that Jewish Americans have made enormous contributions. That's a historical fact.

But acknowledging major contributions is not the same as claiming America would not exist without them.

By that logic, should we also say there would be no America without Africans who built much of its early economy? No America without the British legal tradition? No America without Native Americans? No America without French support during the Revolution?

History is not a one-man or one-people story.

Baxilexi:
Some truths there; It’s arguable but a weak point.

Isreal state being eradicated erodes the cradle of Christianity, and trust the Palestinians to tell us none of the Jews existed, but only Arabs are immune to extinction.

No Jesus means no pilgrims, no pilgrims means no America.

Technologically, no Einstein and Oppenheimer, Japan would have turned the US to a car park.

Isreal has a right to exist.

Reason why Israel asked us to flush terrorist in Nigeria trump collect bribe from tinibu and look away

AntiChristian:
I said: Without the Jews even Adam won't have been created!

You said: The bolded is true though!
We all know of the story of Adam because of the Jews.

Knowing History because of the Jews doesn't mean the same as "Without the Jews even Adam won't have been created"!

Hope you'll figure out you are too forward, arrogant and largely ignorant.

I've had cause to interact with you so many times on this forum majorly because I find your myopic and narrow minded views very interesting even as you're loud and everywhere with it
You mainly think the indoctrination you've received from your teachers in your madrasas make you fully rounded intellectual wise which is why you go about debating with your betters on mostly religious topics

Know today that as a fact that Adam as a being is a creation of the Jews. It does not remove from the possibility of his existence but the fact remains that without the Jewish religion the world will not know the first man created to be called Adam.

Afterall, almost all religions/cultures of the world believe in the theory of a first created man but they all have different names for him. In Yoruba which I'm sure you're familiar with, the name is Oduduwa. In Igbo it's Eri, Bayajidda in Hausa, Manu in Hindu and Pangu in Chinese Confucianism.

You need to open your mind to knowledge and information that goes beyond religious leanings so you don't end up sounding like someone who can't see beyond his nose but is quick with his fingers in rendering opinions

educatedfool:
You're moving the goalposts.

I never said the name Israel was invented in 1948. Ancient Israel existed as a kingdom long before that, just as Babylon, Persia, Egypt, and many other ancient kingdoms existed.

The issue is the ambassador's claim that "without Israel, there would be no America."

That's an extraordinary claim, and extraordinary claims require evidence.

No serious historian argues that the existence of ancient Israel was the sole reason America came into existence. America's founding was influenced by English common law, the Enlightenment, Greco-Roman political thought, Native American confederacies, African labor, and countless other factors.

As for Jewish contributions to America, I completely agree that Jewish Americans have made enormous contributions. That's a historical fact.

But acknowledging major contributions is not the same as claiming America would not exist without them.

By that logic, should we also say there would be no America without Africans who built much of its early economy? No America without the British legal tradition? No America without Native Americans? No America without French support during the Revolution?

History is not a one-man or one-people story.

Nice.. Going by that logic.. would u also say Trump statement was an extraordinary claim too??

musicwriter:
If you understood the history and what Huckabee just said, you'll be ashamed of yourself.

And @ all

During the 1400's Jews were being chased out of Europe. But some wealthy Jews were allowed to stay.

It was those wealthy Jews in Europe that sold the idea of the Atlantic slave trade to Europeans.

Their holy book has told them that YOU (a black) was cursed by their god and is therefore a slave for life, and that you must be enslaved.

So, when Europeans thought of them as slaves in Europe and began chasing them out, they (Jews) instead pointed accusing fingers at YOU (blacks) and said that we blacks are the cursed slaves, not them.

That's why Jewish Rabbis funded Christopher Columbus's first voyages (which was not to America but to Africa).

Christopher Columbus, the explorer who "discovered" America was a Jew!

The Atlantic slave trade only took off after Columbus convinced European financiers (Christian kings and queens) that blacks in Africa would be the slaves. It was after that that they funded his voyage to America to acquire lands where YOUR ancestors were enslaved.

That's how America was founded. And that's what Huckabee is taking about when he said that without Jews there'll be no America.

Yes, he's right but you're a fool as a black rejoicing over it because you're rejoicing over your downfall without realising it. This information has been suppressed in history books but those who've read the book: what is Satan? What is Lucifer? The biggest secret in the world, can relate.

Christopher Columbus was not a Jew and the most prominent European nations in the Americas literally had no Jews because they drove out the Jews earlier. The Spanish drove out the Jews along with the Muslims when Andalusia fell while the British also drove out the Jews centuries earlier. There were practically no Jews in Britain, Spain and Portugal when the slave trade started. Particularly Spain and Britain. Jews are only prominent starting from Germany with the bulk of them in Poland. When the slave trade started the Jews were not there at all. West Africans were there before the Jews and they remained there till the end despite that the cargo was African. You can not really find Jews that were in the Americas from the onset. They came later. You will find Yoruba in the Americas that landed there in the fifteenth century. The narrative that the Jews were the main people in the slave trade is obviously wrong. They were not allowed to operate in Spain and they were not allowed to operate in England, so there is no way the narrative can be true. The Jews only started to land in the Americas when the Germans, Poles and etc started to land there and not before. To say Jews controlled the slave trade isn't different much from saying Poles or Germans controlled the slave trade and you would agree such would be a wrong narrative

lawani:
Christopher Columbus was not a Jew and the most prominent European nations in the Americas literally had no Jews because they drove out the Jews earlier. The Spanish drove out the Jews along with the Muslims when Andalusia fell while the British also drove out the Jews centuries earlier. There were practically no Jews in Britain, Spain and Portugal when the slave trade started. Particularly Spain and Britain. Jews are only prominent starting from Germany with the bulk of them in Poland. When the slave trade started the Jews were not there at all. West Africans were there before the Jews and they remained there till the end despite that the cargo was African. You can not really find Jews that were in the Americas from the onset. They came later. You will find Yoruba in the Americas that landed there in the fifteenth century. The narrative that the Jews were the main people in the slave trade is obviously wrong. They were not allowed to operate in Spain and they were not allowed to operate in England, so there is no way the narrative can be true. The Jews only started to land in the Americas when the Germans, Poles and etc started to land there and not before. To say Jews controlled the slave trade isn't different much from saying Poles or Germans controlled the slave trade and you would agree such would be a wrong narrative

Christopher Columbus was a Jew. Google "Christopher Columbus's DNA test shows he was Jewish" or "was Christopher Columbus secretly a Jew?" by CNN.

As I said earlier, wealthy Jews stayed back in Europe. But most of them fled to different parts of the world, especially "the new world" now called America (which is the basis of what Huckabee said.

If you want to understand what happened to the Jews in Europe at that period, read the book: the Jews of Spain and Portugal and the inquisition - by Frederick David Mocatta. Indeed, that's the book I quoted.

musicwriter:
Christopher Columbus was a Jew. Google "Christopher Columbus's DNA test shows he was Jewish" or "was Christopher Columbus secretly a Jew?" by CNN.

As I said earlier, wealthy Jews stayed back in Europe. But most of them fled to different parts of the world, especially "the new world" now called America (which is the basis of what Huckabee said.

If you want to understand what happened to the Jews in Europe at that period, read the book: the Jews of Spain and Portugal and the inquisition - by Frederick David Mocatta. Indeed, that's the book I quoted.

You can't use DNA to say a Portuguese or a Spanish is a Jew. Not even for a Pole or an Ukrainian etc. If he was a Jew, it would have been known when he was alive. Just mention one Jew that was in the Americas in the 1500s to fault my claim that Jews were not there when the slave trade started

PepeXKermit:
But America existed before the state of Israel..

That is how illogical they can be when trying to justify what is not justifiable.

lawani:
You can't use DNA to say a Portuguese or a Spanish is a Jew. Not even for a Pole or an Ukrainian etc. If he was a Jew, it would have been known when he was alive. Just mention one Jew that was in the Americas in the 1500s to fault my claim that Jews were not there when the slave trade started

All you have to do is publish your own finding to disprove the sources I gave you. Make your research and disprove them. It's allowed.

OnyeObowo1:
Reason why Israel asked us to flush terrorist in Nigeria trump collect bribe from tinibu and look away

I just wish all parties could’ve an honest discussion about what they truly stand for. The IRGC will never be comfortable with the western values Isreal represents.

Destruction of Isreal is not a sentiment but a fatwa and a fatwa means a ruling given by clerics.

jaxxy:
trump is talking about current occurrences but the ambassador is talking about history of America..

2 different points which are both right and don't contradict each other.

Trump and the Ambassador are both right.

Well this a more balanced response than that of the dude i was referring to.

Still, the fact is America was founded by predominantly Protestant Christians, with Jews as a microscopic minority. While Jewish contributions were meaningful, they were not necessary for America's founding and continued existence.

Baxilexi:
I just wish all parties could’ve an honest discussion about what they truly stand for. The IRGC will never be comfortable with the western values Isreal represents.

Destruction of Isreal is not a sentiment but a fatwa and a fatwa means a ruling given by clerics.

Exactly

Rilwayne001:
Oga shut up.

Donald Trump has said the right thing.

Without US support and US bases in the Middle East, Israel is no match for Iran.

This war showed everyone that.

Show us what the war shows that made Iran superior than Islamic iranian propaganda? Isreal killed almost all top Iranian leaders they wanted while Iranian militaries were nowhere to be found than blowing empty roofs. Even the Nethayau Iran claimed they killed is still a life dealing with them left and right.

You better stop deceiving yourself! The whole world had seen that Iran were only empty and never a match to isreal. If not Trump involvement that is appealing for peace, isreal would have erased Iran out of the map. Isreal took over Iranian airspace almost forever while Iranian air force ran away to hide under their wife hijabs.

Isreal came to Iran and took over their airspace, but nobody born Iranian militaries well to also hijack Israel despite their small population except to throw random missiles to blow away empty roofs while the isrealis occupants are already hiding underground. Mention 10 top militaries or even popular notorious that Iran killed among isreal since the start of the war? You wouldn't even found three, but if you are to mention how many Iranian top leaders that isreal sent queuing for 72 virgins, your 60 leaves big note may not contain them.

So,.who won the war? No doubt! Isreal won Iran hands down well well. Iran was only busy dishing out propagandas that holds no water. Iran is big for nothing in this war context as small Israel defeated Iran despite Israel.fighting at multiple war front.

At the end the boasting Iran surrendered their nuclear deals and bow to demand of USA. Iran is now born again, I don't know what Mohammed/Allah will do to them for bowing to their enemies christians(USA) and Jews(Israel) whom Mohammed and Allah hate. God will continue to bless Isreal and USA, and will make Iran follow line of peace with other nations and at least leave peacefully like Saudi arabia

MrSly:
Not in this time, never ever. Quote this comment and tell your progeny to track it for reference.

why do you support the puppet governing in taiwan

Arrowhead71:
Weldon Bros ....
China never condemn Russia once for invading Ukraine and killing them recklessly...instead China aided Russia madness because they allies
China aided Iran for years despite all Iran evil activities
Now China will invade Taiwan according to you
But the question now is why same China condem Israel and America on same thing for which China is guilty

well if the world becomes a USA side project it won't be a good thing

huptin:
if they are that easy to destroy how come Iran could not destroy one despite sending thousands of missiles towards them?

yes there are fire incidents here and there but they all srill remain intact...none has been destroyed.

Except of course you still believe those AI generated videos..

lol you're a very funny person.
the accuracy of the missile that were not intercepted were devastating enough ,those US bases are not currently in use because they can't perform what they were built for.. sensitive tech ruined


I bet you think Iran didn't hit Isreal.

ReturnMan:
lol you're a very funny person.
the accuracy of the missile that were not intercepted were devastating enough ,those US bases are not currently in use because they can't perform what they were built for.. sensitive tech ruined


I bet you think Iran didn't hit Isreal.

If they did hit Isreal why is Tel Aviv still bubbling? Why is the GDP of Isreal growing? Why is Netanyahu still looking to continue the war?

You want to know the result of being hit? The supreme leader will be hiding, the currency will collapse, the leaders will be in disarray, there will be chaos....Iran was hit, very badly hit.

But for Isreal, Few missiles dropped here and there, a few people mostly weak and old died but by and large Isreal felt unthreatened and unbothered. If it was serious enough,investors will be pulling out of that place very fast.

Answer this question, Can you invest in Iran? Of course not! I will invest in Isreal.

Thats the difference. Forget AI, Iran did more damage to its neighbour UAE than it did to Isreal. Its misiles are too unadvanced and inaccurate to cause a major headache to Isreal

ReturnMan:
why do you support the puppet governing in taiwan

I am not supporting anyone. I am only telling you where the global politics is heading to. Taiwan is separated from China forever. China will come to terms with it with time. Right now taiwan is getting every support for self defence in the event of any invasion and countries of interest are keenly watching the development. There is nothing China can do now and later.

MrSly:
I am not supporting anyone. I am only telling you where the global politics is heading to. Taiwan is separated from China forever. China will come to terms with it with time. Right now taiwan is getting every support for self defence in the event of any invasion and countries of interest are keenly watching the development. There is nothing China can do now and later.

Can't you see that behind every war lies US influence... USA went and caused an animosity in Korea ticking bomb, Taiwan animosity ticking bomb, middle East animosity ticking bomb that just exploded small, Ukraine and Russia animosity behind is Nato, a USA alliance.... Oga open eyes maybe Taiwan won't be gullible and integrate with its homeland

ReturnMan:
Can't you see that behind every war lies US influence... USA went and caused an animosity in Korea ticking bomb, Taiwan animosity ticking bomb, middle East animosity ticking bomb that just exploded small, Ukraine and Russia animosity behind is Nato, a USA alliance.... Oga open eyes maybe Taiwan won't be gullible and integrate with its homeland

I am not ignorant of that sentiment but I am not talking about feelings. Geopolitically, taiwan is separated from China. There is no going back. Your sentiment may be true or false but the fact is what I just said.

MrSly:
I am not ignorant of that sentiment but I am not talking about feelings. Geopolitically, taiwan is separated from China. There is no going back. Your sentiment may be true or false but the fact is what I just said.

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