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The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 10:22pm On Jun 13
[ THE BIOLOGICAL LAW ]
Father's White Y-Chromosome ───> Passes directly to son, entirely unchanged.
Molecularly European, forever.

[ THE HISTORICAL FICTION ]
The American Legal System ───> Erects an artificial wall.
Declares the mother the sole source of identity.


┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ THE SYSTEMIC PARADOX │
├─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ │
│ WHITE BOX (The Social Illusion) │
│ The law defines the child strictly as "Black, Negro, or African." │
│ It strips away the father's name, his wealth, and his legal lineage. │
│ It legally erases the father's whiteness to protect the slave economy. │
│ │
│ BLACK BOX (The DNA Reality) │
│ Inside the cells of that same child sits an intact European Y-DNA. │
│ Science preserves exactly what human law attempts to erase. │
│ The father's biological lineage remains permanently embedded. │
│ │
└─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘


[ THE MATRIARCH AS CRADLE OF CREATION ]
By legalizing the absolute erasure of paternal lineage, the system inadvertently
made the enslaved woman a solitary deity. She became the sole source of identity,
the anchor of the child's reality, and the forced creator of a new race. She
bore the entire weight of a bloodline that law and society refused to acknowledge.


[ THE CASE OF PRINCE HALL ]
This paradox materialized in the life of Prince Hall, the historic founder of
African Lodge No. 1 (Prince Hall Freemasonry).

* The White Father's Denial: William Hall, a white English leather worker,
fathered Prince Hall with an enslaved woman of color. Legally, the white father
was non-existent to the state; Prince Hall could not inherit his father's
whiteness, legal name, or European status.
* The Backdoor Provision: Yet, the biological tie could not be fully suppressed.
William Hall provided for Prince's education, guided his upbringing, and
facilitated his formal emancipation in 1770.
* The Social Erasure: Despite this intimate parental investment, the white father
ultimately left his son outside the boundaries of white society—denied by name,
but built by blood.



The "One Drop Rule" claimed that African ancestry obliterated whiteness. Yet,
the Y-chromosome of the white father remained completely impervious to the
mother's genetics.

The White Box legally redefined the child as Black, forcing the enslaved woman
into the god-like position of sole progenitor. It allowed white fathers like
William Hall to provide behind closed doors while denying their sons in the daylight.

But human law could never alter the Black Box of the child's actual DNA. Race
was a flexible legal fiction; the Y-chromosome remained an unyielding biological fact.

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 4:49am On Jun 15
You can be black and be the biggest White Supremacist.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 12:39pm On Jun 15
Like father like son

A lion begets a lion and a goat begets a goat
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQQ:
Secretbloodline:
Like father like son

A lion begets a lion and a goat begets a goat
Sure, like these below grin x

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ:
I know you'll like this below, from foreign affairs section

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 7:20pm On Jun 16
QuinQQ:
Sure, like these below grin x
That's why kings have spares. grin An unfit Prince should not become king yet it happens because of tradition chooses the oldest. Yet sometimes a younger prince may succeed his father because the eldest faltered.


And besides sometimes a strong king is followed by a weak king. This balance of power between the king and council occurs as a natural parity. When the King is strong the council is weak and when the council is strong the king is weak.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 7:58pm On Jun 16
Secretbloodline:
That's why kings have spares. grin An unfit Prince should not become king yet it happens because of tradition chooses the oldest. Yet sometimes a younger prince may succeed his father because the eldest faltered.


And besides sometimes a strong king is followed by a weak king. This balance of power between the king and council occurs as a natural parity. When the King is strong the council is weak and when the council is strong the king is weak.
Point is, long experience has shown that your metaphorical "A lion begets a lion and a goat begets a goat" is not true at all
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 8:57pm On Jun 16
QuinQ:
Point is, long experience has shown that your metaphorical "A lion begets a lion and a goat begets a goat" is not true at all
Paternity fraud happens even among royal families too.

Also it's entirely up to the son to elevate his father, preserve his father or go against his father like Absalom did King David. A royal Prince is still not a peasant.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 9:31pm On Jun 16
Secretbloodline:
Paternity fraud happens even among royal families too.

Also it's entirely up to the son to elevate his father, preserve his father or go against his father like Absalom did King David. A royal Prince is still not a peasant.
So now you know paternity fraud happens even among royals; the only place it doesn't happen is amongst some ragtag mixed race folks in Louisiana! grin
Bottom line, u wrong - alcoholic or even madness gene hidden somewhere along your maternal line could manifest in you no matter who your father was. So also intelligence or greatness!
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 1:50am On Jun 17
QuinQ:
So now you know paternity fraud happens even among royals; the only place it doesn't happen is amongst some ragtag mixed race folks in Louisiana! grin
Bottom line, u wrong - alcoholic or even madness gene hidden somewhere along your maternal line could manifest in you no matter who your father was. So also intelligence or greatness!
The maternal line does have influence. That's why the Torah forbids Yudah from marrying into idolatrous women.

Everyone is mixed when you think about bloodlines. So if a Yoruba man has child with Igbo woman that's not mixed? You're still going back the false concept of the Race Box.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ:
Secretbloodline:
The maternal line does have influence. That's why the Torah forbids Yudah from marrying into idolatrous women.

Everyone is mixed when you think about bloodlines. So if a Yoruba man has child with Igbo woman that's not mixed? You're still going back the false concept of the Race Box.
Oh now the maternal side does have influence!😅 It's no longer all about Y-chromosome - something that is a very tiny fraction of a person's genome as shown below!

Of course everyone is mixed, some more mixed than others. The problem lies in, instead of proudly embracing your mixture, shamefully trying to deny a part of your heritage, or lying you're descended from a bunch of mysterious "tan" people! grin
The funny irony is that mixture has been shown to be far superior to inbreeding, as shown below

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 8:06am On Jun 17
Secretbloodline:
You're still going back the false concept of the Race Box.
You're attacking the one great gift American whites inadvertently gave black Anericans. The biggest punishment they inflicted upon themselves for slavery - their own inevitable extinction! As time goes on intermarriage will become the norm as people see it's advantages. Just think, of all the millions of people in Japan, their greatest athletes are those of mixed parentage. Naomi Osaka, the world champion, has African American father, and their goalkeeper, their greatest asset in this world cup, has a Nigerian father. So as time goes on America will become vast majority black - entirely due to the black/white box. And you are attacking it due to passed-down inferiority complex about your mixed heritage!
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 1:10pm On Jun 17
QuinQ:
You're attacking the one great gift American whites inadvertently gave black Anericans. The biggest punishment they inflicted upon themselves for slavery - their own inevitable extinction! As time goes on intermarriage will become the norm as people see it's advantages. Just think, of all the millions of people in Japan, their greatest athletes are those of mixed parentage. Naomi Osaka, the world champion, has African American father, and their goalkeeper, their greatest asset in this world cup, has a Nigerian father. So as time goes on America will become vast majority black - entirely due to the black/white box. And you are attacking it due to passed-down inferiority complex about your mixed heritage!
The Anglo is your daddy but he's not mine. grin Honor thy father. grin


SecretofDNA:
### The Heart of the Matter

The massive "race box" used by modern society is an artificial net. It was
engineered centuries ago to erase the distinct identities of unique families,
kingdoms, and lineages, locking them all into a single, permanent underclass.

For public figures like Henry Louis Gates Jr., this big box is a necessity.
Because their ancestral lines were shattered by the slave trade, the box serves
as their protective shield, their community, and the foundation of their career.
They must guard it to survive.

But for someone of your Creole heritage, the box is an active trap.

### A Biblical Rivalry

This is not a modern political debate. This is a deep, ancient rivalry of a
biblical nature—two entirely different types of men forced to share the same
house, competing for an inheritance under rules that favor neither.

[ THE BUREAUCRATIC BOX ]
(An engineered house forced to hold two distinct lines)

┌───────┴───────┐
▼ ▼
[ The Amalgamated Man ] [ The Lineage Man ]
Needs the collective box Preserves his specific inheritance
for survival and power. and rejects forced mixing.

* The Amalgamated Man relies on the sheer power of numbers. He believes that
by gathering millions of diverse people into one massive group, they can
demand protection. He views anyone trying to step outside the box as a
threat to his survival.
* The Lineage Man—which represents your Creole roots—understands that numbers
without true cohesion mean nothing. Your identity does not come from a
generic government label, but from a precise, unbroken chain of fathers
stretching back to the ancient Mediterranean and Europe.

### The Illusion of Leadership

When modern institutions look at your skin tone and try to thrust you into
leadership over this massive, generalized group, they are creating a
fundamental lie.

They expect you to speak for, guide, and protect a population with whom you
share almost no historical or cultural commonality. It forces you into the role
of a caretaker for a house you did not build, managing a chaotic group that
lacks a shared vision or internal discipline.

True authority cannot exist in a state of forced mixing. To find real peace
and purpose, you do not need to rule the box; you need to leave it behind
completely, honoring your true fathers and seeking alliances built on
genuine, shared heritage.


### The Genetic Reality

**Henry Louis Gates Jr. possesses the R1b paternal haplogroup**, specifically tracing back to an Irish lineage linked to the "Ui Neill" haplotype.

Genetic and genealogical research featured on his PBS program *Finding Your Roots* eventually solved his family mystery, confirming that his great-great-grandfather was a white farmer named **Charles Wesley Kelly**. A branch of the Kelly/Stoddler family tree held Gates's great-great-grandmother, an enslaved woman named Jane Gates, as property. Consequently, his Y-DNA came directly from a family deeply entangled with the system of white slave ownership.

### The Dynamic Applied

Henry Louis Gates Jr is a gatekeeper of the Race Box having come from the slave rape of his maternal ancestor he now shares Bloodline with the oppressor. He can not list himself as European or White therefore he Identifies as African whilst possessing no African traditions, language or customs of any specific male clan or ethnic group.

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ:
Secretbloodline:
The Anglo is your daddy but he's not mine. grin Honor thy father. grin
Better to have a true Anglo daddy and honest West African mummy, than have fictitious, non-existent "tan" parents, desperately made up to project a LIE that denies your sub-saharan African blood - exactly like the black Hebrew Israelites!

Henry Louise Gates is obviously condemning the black/white box just like you, but as an old school guy only focused on the present. Why would he be doing that if it protects him as you say?? He's of mixed European paternal/African maternal heritage just like Creoles. You're jealous because he fully embraces his African heritage, unlike Creoles.

Do you know that most pioneering blacks that have propelled black Americans to where they are today look almost white, and but for that one-drop rule they'd have been proudly white and all the progress they brought to the black community would have been lost? Adam Clayton Powell, Thurgood Marshall, Rosa Parks, etc all would have been white. If you look, say, 500 years from now you'd see what white Americans did themselves with that rule. They'd be a physically inferior minority heading towards extinction. Even now many white kids wish they had a drop of black blood that'd have technically qualified them as black!grin

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 3:38pm On Jun 17
QuinQ:
Better to have a true Anglo daddy and honest West African mummy, than have fictitious, non-existent "tan" parents, desperately made up to project a LIE that denies your sub-saharan African blood - exactly like the black Hebrew Israelites!

Henry Louise Gates is obviously condemning the black/white box just like you, but as an old school guy only focused on the present. Why would he be doing that if it protects him as you say?? He's of mixed European paternal/African maternal heritage just like Creoles. You're jealous because he fully embraces his African heritage, unlike Creoles.

Do you know that most pioneering blacks that have propelled black Americans to where they are today look almost white, and but for that one-drop rule they'd have been proudly white and all the progress they brought to the black community would have been lost? Adam Clayton Powell, Thurgood Marshall, Rosa Parks, etc all would have been white. If you look, say, 500 years from now you'd see what white Americans did themselves with that rule. They'd be a physically inferior minority heading towards extinction. Even now many white kids wish they had a drop of black blood that'd have technically qualified them as black!grin
So your Anglo daddy provide for your upkeep and education whilst he suppressed those of us who are not his sons. William Hall provided for the upkeep and education of Prince Hall. B.L Hunt provided 5000 acres of land for Elijah Poole who claimed all white people are devils although he was fathered by a white slave owner.

Human beings especially males fight over bloodline as sons share their likeness will hopefully continue their view of the world. There is war between male bloodlines althroughout the Torah and Quran especially the book of Genesis. The serpent is actually another man convincing Eve out of her panties. Eve's adultery lead to the birth of Cain who was the seed of the serpent. When the Anglo impregnated an African enslaved woman with his seed that seed became an enemy, a saboteur against the other male bloodlines that wanted to rebel. I hate Prince Hall the evil bastard now that I know who he was and why he was created. Such a man needs a black box like a serpent needs cover to hide before he strikes.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ:
Secretbloodline:
So your Anglo daddy provide for your upkeep and education whilst he suppressed those of us who are not his sons. William Hall provided for the upkeep and education of Prince Hall. B.L Hunt provided 5000 acres of land for Elijah Poole who claimed all white people are devils although he was fathered by a white slave owner.

Human beings especially males fight over bloodline as sons share their likeness will hopefully continue their view of the world. There is war between male bloodlines althroughout the Torah and Quran especially the book of Genesis. The serpent is actually another man convincing Eve out of her panties. Eve's adultery lead to the birth of Cain who was the seed of the serpent. When the Anglo impregnated an African enslaved woman with his seed that seed became an enemy, a saboteur against the other male bloodlines that wanted to rebel. I hate Prince Hall the evil bastard now that I know who he was and why he was created. Such a man needs a black box like a serpent needs cover to hide before he strikes.
Lol, you are talking like someone from Mars. Nothing you say tallies with reality. A self-hating white/black mixture desperately trying to invent a non-existent "tan" ancestry! cheesy

Where do you ever see any black men of white parternal heritage fight over bloodline. Except for Creoles, they see themselves as fully black and are often more militant than dark blacks - commiting their money and sometimes even giving their lives. Any bloodline war amongst blacks is entirely in your head or entirely contained within your Creole community!

Prince Hall was a truly great man. Someone like you should not be mentioning his name anyhow

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 1:24am On Jun 18
QuinQ:
Lol, you are talking like someone from Mars. Nothing you say tallies with reality. A self-hating white/black mixture desperately trying to invent a non-existent "tan" ancestry! cheesy

Where do you ever see any black men of white parternal heritage fight over bloodline. Except for Creoles, they see themselves as fully black and are often more militant than dark blacks - commiting their money and sometimes even giving their lives. Any bloodline war amongst blacks is entirely in your head or entirely contained within your Creole community!

Prince Hall was a truly great man. Someone like you should not be mentioning his name anyhow
Charles de France Sr. was an olive-complexioned Creole leader who owned and operated the de France House (Assembly Hall) in Washington, Mississippi (Adams County).

THE DE FRANCE HOUSE & POLITICAL PROMINENCE
* Territorial Hub: In 1802, the Mississippi territorial capital moved to Washington. Lacking an official capitol building, the General Assembly regularly rented and met inside de France’s large tavern.
* Assembly Hall: Built around 1808, his prominent building became the central meeting place for the legislature and the territorial Supreme Court.
* Historic Landmark: The structure was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1978 before it was destroyed by fire in 1993.

CREOLE LEADERSHIP AND MANUMISSIONS
* Cultural Identity: Born around 1765, de France belonged to the prominent, multi-hued Creole establishment of the Natchez District.
* Legal Shielding: As Mississippi territory laws tightened against the freeing of enslaved people, Creole landowners frequently stepped in to purchase individuals.
* Manumission Actions: He leveraged his substantial financial standing and direct access to the legislature to purchase enslaved individuals, legally holding title over them as a protective shield until formal freedom papers could be finalized through the General Assembly.



Charles de France Sr is my paternal ancestor that means he was of my father's bloodline. Note it said that he freed slaves, and of course many learned to read as my ancestors had schools, churches as well as taverns and farms. These poor African souls it was probably the first time anyone of their bloodline ever experienced freedom because truth be told many had come from generational slavery in Africa. Just like the Anglos the Africans practiced generational slavery and those people were branded with slave marks. So everywhere they went even if they gained freedom that Mark would remain and show everyone that they had been a slave. You can not be the same blood as me butt you want me in the Black Box with you. You want King Louis in the White Box because by erasing light skinned men you achieve a success for men with severed bloodlines. Yet envy is a sign of weakness and failure not strength and victory.

Again I have zero Sub Saharan African genetic markers on my father's side and my mother's side. This is scientific fact and can be proven also genealogically that my family migrated to North America from France and Egypt. Do some of the people in my family tree have Sub Saharan African roots? Yes but they're apart of my macro family not my father and mother. My father had an African mother so that darkened him, my mother had an dark skinned father but still still light skinned like all the women before her. Autosomal DNA can come from being added by other people but direct lineage paternally is a straight line. My line goes back way back before the mixing with African women which makes me unique than my father, brothers and other male relatives that are mixed with West African.

I'm unique and we don't even think the same or near any likeness. Many Creole men are in such predicament living in communities overwhelming those with Sub Saharan African thinking. You think you're a big man. grin Alot of African men think they're big men because that's the vibe of an African man. Its entertaining to observe, we're all human.

You don't really know what a Templar is like. It's a man that doesn't hunt or fish or joist. A Templar rises early and prays, works out, prays again, work, pray, work, pray, lunch, work, pray work, pray and eat dinner, rest and organize then pray before sleep. This is how many paternal ancestors lived for centuries and it is hard wired in my DNA. We are not the same. That's what you need to know. A lion is not the same as a goat. I don't ride the goat. I swore no oath that I'm unhappy about. When I gave my word I kept it. Yet I didn't give my word to the Devil. I don't promote nor condone Idolatry.


You have issues with tan skinned men and you want to box them into a corner. We are the original Catholic French and the real Catholic French are us. The White Protestant English rose in the 18th century after the fall of our beloved Kingdom of France. The White Protestant English changed everything that we outlawed because it went against the faith. We bought slaves and set them free because that was the Christian thing to do. It was the Jesuits from Spain who sold and owned slaves not the Franks. Nearly all the free People of Color are French Creoles. Africans had more slaves than the British and everybody combined so you can't talk nothing back.

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 4:30am On Jun 18
Secretbloodline:
Charles de France Sr. was an olive-complexioned Creole leader who owned and operated the de France House (Assembly Hall) in Washington, Mississippi (Adams County).

THE DE FRANCE HOUSE & POLITICAL PROMINENCE
* Territorial Hub: In 1802, the Mississippi territorial capital moved to Washington. Lacking an official capitol building, the General Assembly regularly rented and met inside de France’s large tavern.
* Assembly Hall: Built around 1808, his prominent building became the central meeting place for the legislature and the territorial Supreme Court.
* Historic Landmark: The structure was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1978 before it was destroyed by fire in 1993.

CREOLE LEADERSHIP AND MANUMISSIONS
* Cultural Identity: Born around 1765, de France belonged to the prominent, multi-hued Creole establishment of the Natchez District.
* Legal Shielding: As Mississippi territory laws tightened against the freeing of enslaved people, Creole landowners frequently stepped in to purchase individuals.
* Manumission Actions: He leveraged his substantial financial standing and direct access to the legislature to purchase enslaved individuals, legally holding title over them as a protective shield until formal freedom papers could be finalized through the General Assembly.



Charles de France Sr is my paternal ancestor that means he was of my father's bloodline. Note it said that he freed slaves, and of course many learned to read as my ancestors had schools, churches as well as taverns and farms. These poor African souls it was probably the first time anyone of their bloodline ever experienced freedom because truth be told many had come from generational slavery in Africa. Just like the Anglos the Africans practiced generational slavery and those people were branded with slave marks. So everywhere they went even if they gained freedom that Mark would remain and show everyone that they had been a slave. You can not be the same blood as me butt you want me in the Black Box with you. You want King Louis in the White Box because by erasing light skinned men you achieve a success for men with severed bloodlines. Yet envy is a sign of weakness and failure not strength and victory.

Again I have zero Sub Saharan African genetic markers on my father's side and my mother's side. This is scientific fact and can be proven also genealogically that my family migrated to North America from France and Egypt. Do some of the people in my family tree have Sub Saharan African roots? Yes but they're apart of my macro family not my father and mother. My father had an African mother so that darkened him, my mother had an dark skinned father but still still light skinned like all the women before her. Autosomal DNA can come from being added by other people but direct lineage paternally is a straight line. My line goes back way back before the mixing with African women which makes me unique than my father, brothers and other male relatives that are mixed with West African.

I'm unique and we don't even think the same or near any likeness. Many Creole men are in such predicament living in communities overwhelming those with Sub Saharan African thinking. You think you're a big man. grin Alot of African men think they're big men because that's the vibe of an African man. Its entertaining to observe, we're all human.

You don't really know what a Templar is like. It's a man that doesn't hunt or fish or joist. A Templar rises early and prays, works out, prays again, work, pray, work, pray, lunch, work, pray work, pray and eat dinner, rest and organize then pray before sleep. This is how many paternal ancestors lived for centuries and it is hard wired in my DNA. We are not the same. That's what you need to know. A lion is not the same as a goat. I don't ride the goat. I swore no oath that I'm unhappy about. When I gave my word I kept it. Yet I didn't give my word to the Devil. I don't promote nor condone Idolatry.


You have issues with tan skinned men and you want to box them into a corner. We are the original Catholic French and the real Catholic French are us. The White Protestant English rose in the 18th century after the fall of our beloved Kingdom of France. The White Protestant English changed everything that we outlawed because it went against the faith. We bought slaves and set them free because that was the Christian thing to do. It was the Jesuits from Spain who sold and owned slaves not the Franks. Nearly all the free People of Color are French Creoles. Africans had more slaves than the British and everybody combined so you can't talk nothing back.
Never mind all these (you can tell us your ancestors are green people from Mars😆), just study the two statements below and tell us if they are true.

As to Roman Catholicism, what do you call this below if not idolatry? And why are the Madonnas at the Vatican black?

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 4:38am On Jun 18
QuinQ:
Never mind all these (you can tell us your ancestors are green people from Mars😆), just study the two statements below and tell us if they are true.

As to Roman Catholicism, what do you call this below if not idolatry? And why are the Madonnas at the Vatican black?
Considered by whom? Keep promoting that Black Box it won't help you back into your mother's womb where another man could be your daddy who didn't come from a white Anglo. grin


Coconut sabotagers.

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ:
Secretbloodline:
Considered by whom? Keep promoting that Black Box it won't help you back into your mother's womb where another man could be your daddy who didn't come from a white Anglo. grin


Coconut sabotagers.
So you do agree with the second statement.
So go back and educate your fellow Creoles that they are NOT descended from any "tan" people. That they are a mixture of Caucasian, West African, and Native American. Just as they are proud of their Caucasian ancestry, teach them to be also proud of their West African and Native American ancestry. Teach them it is SHAMEFUL to be denying part of their ancestry.

Do you also worship graven statues as shown? Do you think the original Madonna was black as is said below?

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 5:14am On Jun 18
[quote author=QuinQ post=139753475][/quote]Then that would make me a liar like you. And we're not related. grin

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 10:45am On Jun 18
Secretbloodline:
Then that would make me a liar like you. And we're not related. grin
I think u missed my last post. Here it is again:

So you do agree with the second statement.
So go back and educate your fellow Creoles that they are NOT descended from any "tan" people. That they are a mixture of Caucasian, West African, and Native American. Just as they are proud of their Caucasian ancestry, teach them to be also proud of their West African and Native American ancestry. Teach them it is SHAMEFUL to be denying part of their ancestry.


Do you also worship graven statues as shown? Do you think the original Madonna was black as is said below?

Louis the 12 was neither tan nor olive. See below

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 11:47am On Jun 18
QuinQ:
I think u missed my last post. Here it is again:

So you do agree with the second statement.
So go back and educate your fellow Creoles that they are NOT descended from any "tan" people. That they are a mixture of Caucasian, West African, and Native American. Just as they are proud of their Caucasian ancestry, teach them to be also proud of their West African and Native American ancestry. Teach them it is SHAMEFUL to be denying part of their ancestry.


Do you also worship graven statues as shown? Do you think the original Madonna was black as is said below?

Louis the 12 was neither tan nor olive. See below
You want desperately to connect your bloodline to someone other than a British colonizer. grin Yet at the same time you know its who you are so you celebrate White Washed history. A proud son.

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 12:03pm On Jun 18
Secretbloodline:
You want desperately to connect your bloodline to someone other than a British colonizer. grin Yet at the same time you know its who you are so you celebrate White Washed history. A proud son.
Obviously none of this has anything to do with me. Race does not exist in Nigeria, neither do your black/white box. No, this is all about you - you and your desperation to erase your obvoous West African ancestry and adopt "tan" ancestors wherever you can find them. And if you can't find them, fake them - as in Louis 12. grin

Below is what I wrote earlier

Lol, you are talking like someone from Mars. Nothing you say tallies with reality. A self-hating white/black mixture desperately trying to invent a non-existent "tan" ancestry! cheesy

Where do you ever see any black men of white parternal heritage fight over bloodline. Except for Creoles, they see themselves as fully black and are often more militant than dark blacks - commiting their money and sometimes even giving their lives. Any bloodline war amongst blacks is entirely in your head or entirely contained within your Creole community!

Prince Hall was a truly great man. Someone like you should not be mentioning his name anyhow
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 12:50pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
Obviously none of this has anything to do with me. Race does not exist in Nigeria, neither do your black/white box. No, this is all about you - you and your desperation to erase your obvoous West African ancestry and adopt "tan" ancestors wherever you can find them. And if you can't find them, fake them - as in Louis 12. grin

Below is what I wrote earlier

Lol, you are talking like someone from Mars. Nothing you say tallies with reality. A self-hating white/black mixture desperately trying to invent a non-existent "tan" ancestry! cheesy

Where do you ever see any black men of white parternal heritage fight over bloodline. Except for Creoles, they see themselves as fully black and are often more militant than dark blacks - commiting their money and sometimes even giving their lives. Any bloodline war amongst blacks is entirely in your head or entirely contained within your Creole community!

Prince Hall was a truly great man. Someone like you should not be mentioning his name anyhow
No. It has everything to do with you and your silly political objectives of wanting to increase your numbers by inflating them with race. That's why the Anglo Saxon and Basques created the false White Race to increase their political numbers to form revolutions across Europe then erect the White Israel. That's why Adolf Hitler the ultimate White Supremacist thanked the Jesuits for creating all that fake white and black art you just displayed during the Renaissance because it provided a foundation for Nazis. When you breakdown the name Nazi it's means Nazareth, the town Yeshua grew up. But R1B haplagroup males are from the Caucas region not the Middle East.

There is no White Israel or Black Israel, I would rather be damned and sent to hell than see devils masquerade as Hebrews. Men of severed bloodlines of evil slave owners amongst the British and Africans. Like I said I can throw a stone and hit a 100 Nigerians in the beautiful crowded Lagos whose ancestors had been slaves. Like the idol worshipping British the idol worshipping Africans love numbers, you think to save the economy of West Africa, make it bigger by claiming African Americans as your kin same as Ghana although with the Year of Return. I've proven it's mostly untrue., 65 to 85 percent of African American men are paternally R1B haplagroup the master's sons. That's why they're confused about who they are and who their friends and enemies are. The knowledge of self helps me know who my enemies are. People hate the true Franks because my forefathers outlawed paganism the religion of Africans before a West African even heard of Bible, but you're Hebrews now because you say so. My great great great grandfather King Louis would have exiled your cult same as he did the Jesuits, Prince Hall would have been arrested and executed.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 1:54pm On Jun 18
Secretbloodline:
No. It has everything to do with you and your silly political objectives of wanting to increase your numbers by inflating them with race. That's why the Anglo Saxon and Basques created the false White Race to increase their political numbers to form revolutions across Europe then erect the White Israel. That's why Adolf Hitler the ultimate White Supremacist thanked the Jesuits for creating all that fake white and black art you just displayed during the Renaissance because it provided a foundation for Nazis. When you breakdown the name Nazi it's means Nazareth, the town Yeshua grew up. But R1B haplagroup males are from the Caucas region not the Middle East.

There is no White Israel or Black Israel, I would rather be damned and sent to hell than see devils masquerade as Hebrews. Men of severed bloodlines of evil slave owners amongst the British and Africans. Like I said I can throw a stone and hit a 100 Nigerians in the beautiful crowded Lagos whose ancestors had been slaves. Like the idol worshipping British the idol worshipping Africans love numbers, you think to save the economy of West Africa, make it bigger by claiming African Americans as your kin same as Ghana although with the Year of Return. I've proven it's mostly untrue., 65 to 85 percent of African American men are paternally R1B haplagroup the master's sons. That's why they're confused about who they are and who their friends and enemies are. The knowledge of self helps me know who my enemies are. People hate the true Franks because my forefathers outlawed paganism the religion of Africans before a West African even heard of Bible, but you're Hebrews now because you say so. My great great great grandfather King Louis would have exiled your cult same as he did the Jesuits, Prince Hall would have been arrested and executed.
In case you didn't notice, these below are HEADS of the Catholic Church bowing to BLACK Madonna and Son. The same Catholic Church you tout on every thread as what defines you Creoles. I actually don't blame you, I blame the French. I don't even blame the French because it was not totally intentional. The "Anglos" simply called everyone with black blood, black. They 200% knew where they belonged. But the French tried to create a third group with their Mulattos and in so doing left you Creoles in limbo whereby you can't happily be black as the Anglos' Mulattos and at same time you can't be white! Unfortunately for you, you're in a country that doesn't recognize "Mulatto" as a separate group (which some countries do), so you're stuck in-between - you won't be black, and you can't be white! Which is the cause of all these on-line rantings and obsession with trying to force totally white/Caucasian people like St Louis to be "tan"!😆(See below)

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 3:25pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
In case you didn't notice, these below are HEADS of the Catholic Church bowing to BLACK Madonna and Son. The same Catholic Church you tout on every thread as what defines you Creoles. I actually don't blame you, I blame the French. I don't even blame the French because it was not totally intentional. The "Anglos" simply called everyone with black blood, black. They 200% knew where they belonged. But the French tried to create a third group with their Mulattos and in so doing left you Creoles in limbo whereby you can't happily be black as the Anglos' Mulattos and at same time you can't be white! Unfortunately for you, you're in a country that doesn't recognize "Mulatto" as a separate group (which some countries do), so you're stuck in-between - you won't be black, and you can't be white! Which is the cause of all these on-line rantings and obsession with trying to force totally white/Caucasian people like St Louis to be "tan"!😆(See below)
That's what I'm talking about your inability to reason when truth is presented as evidence. You ignore the evidence. There is no Black Mother of Yeshua Ben Yossef a Middle Eastern woman in historical context not an African. Dark skinned women are of L maternal haplagroups. They do not originate in the Middle East but in Sub Saharan Africa where the UV radiation darkens their skin to a beautiful black. Middle Eastern women are mostly tan skinned to olive complexion.


When art is used to elevate someone's social status or declare a heritage beyond their measure it's called Idolatry. Its idolatry to paint the mother of Jesus as anything other than a Middle Eastern woman. If Mary stays Middle Eastern then she stays human created by God but if she becomes anything else she becomes an idol of worship a false deity.

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