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Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Razzness(m): 2:45pm On Jun 18
grin grin grin Keep waiting for another serious president; that's how Netanyahu waited for 40 years only to be thrown under the bus.

Bittersweetnig:
I blame Trump in all of these, small thing to ending the job, he back track allowing kids of terrorism to dey jubilating, its a matter of time, another US Isreal president will come back and do another serious job to finish the job
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Mirasteel: 2:45pm On Jun 18
mysticwarrior:
For decades, the United States has proudly proclaimed, "We do not negotiate with terrorists." It has branded Iran a sponsor of terrorism, imposed crippling sanctions, rallied allies against it, and used that label to justify years of political and economic pressure.

Yet today, the same United States finds itself sitting across the negotiating table from the very nation it has spent decades condemning.

So what became of the principle that America claimed was non-negotiable? Was it truly a matter of principle, or merely a convenient slogan invoked when it served strategic interests and quietly abandoned when circumstances demanded otherwise?

If negotiating with Iran is now acceptable, then the world is left to ask: was the policy ever about terrorism at all, or has it always been about power, leverage, and political convenience?
The truth is that the real terrorist is USA
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Deepthoughts: 2:45pm On Jun 18
Razzness:
Credit where credit is due abeg. Iran just came up against two nuclear powers and displayed strength to the entire world; Now they are getting a deal that even Khamenei would not have dreamed of when the war started.
which deal after giving up completely on their nuclear pursuit?, which was the singular most important n strategic objective of the war by USA/ISRAEL?
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by HacheNoire: 2:45pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
Someone is LYING. See below
That was post Trump breaking away from the deal!

IAEA inspection was part of Obama deal.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by opeldavid: 2:47pm On Jun 18
I can't believe this is happening.
After the US and Israel bombarding Iran and even killing their supreme leader on the first day of the war, yet they came out strong to the extent of forcing the US to a negotiation.

So unbelievable.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by educatedfool: 2:47pm On Jun 18
Helinuse:
grin grin grin

E don become philosopher.
Yes, Ideologies disappear with people.
The NAZI ideology disappeared with Hitler.
Also, the Communist ideology of the USSR under Stalin.
The Roman creed and Empire ended with Caesar.
Macedonia's world dominance ended with the death of Alexander the Great.
French dominance of the world ended with the defeat and death of Napoleon Bonaparte.

An ideology built around a man ends with the man.
And the reason why he was called a Supreme Leader was that he embodied the ideology.
And leaders do come and go, but when a leader is Israelified during a battle, it is called DEFEAT!

Bless you....!
grin grin grin
You really should read the history you cite.

Nazism died with Hitler? Fair enough. But communism didn't die with Stalin. The USSR survived him for almost four decades, and communist states still exist today.

The Roman Empire didn't end with Caesar. In fact, it reached its greatest extent long after Caesar's death, and the Eastern Roman Empire survived for another 1,500 years.

Alexander died in 323 BC, but Hellenistic civilization and kingdoms outlived him by centuries.

Napoleon died in exile, yet French influence and the ideas of the French Revolution spread throughout Europe and beyond.

Ironically, every example you gave disproves your point.

History isn't a Marvel movie where killing the villain ends the story.

Bless you too.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Razzness(m): 2:48pm On Jun 18
Oya go and debit the 300 billion dollars Iran is getting from the deal grin

proxillin:
Was it a nuclear war?

Was Israel allowed to use nuclear bomb?

[/b]Debit where debit due.[b]

No one can win a terrorist organization.

Hamas are still in Gaza as we speak
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by HacheNoire: 2:50pm On Jun 18
educatedfool:
You really should read the history you cite.

Nazism died with Hitler? Fair enough. But communism didn't die with Stalin. The USSR survived him for almost four decades, and communist states still exist today.

The Roman Empire didn't end with Caesar. In fact, it reached its greatest extent long after Caesar's death, and the Eastern Roman Empire survived for another 1,500 years.

Alexander died in 323 BC, but Hellenistic civilization and kingdoms outlived him by centuries.

Napoleon died in exile, yet French influence and the ideas of the French Revolution spread throughout Europe and beyond.

Ironically, every example you gave disproves your point.

History isn't a Marvel movie where killing the villain ends the story.

Bless you too.
🔥🔥🔥🔥

I love how you schooled him!
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Mirasteel: 2:50pm On Jun 18
GOVERNORR:
Trump has indeed effected change in global history..

Eliminating the tyrant and having Iran now willing to be in business with the Western world.

That's some serious geopolitics
Effected change by losing billions of dollars during the war? you definitely don't know what you are saying.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Omoreal01: 2:53pm On Jun 18
Mehn kudos to Iran... No gree for your enemies. All die na die! America that I know very well only do things that beneficial to them. If no be the unrest and losses, they won't back down.
Ironfaceman:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crr8z4z2er9o
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by anonimi: 2:54pm On Jun 18
madridguy:
I think this thread is about Iran and the USA?
I know this thread is about Trump and war mongering, which brought him to Nigeria on the invitation of Tinubu who is clueless about fighting insecurity.

Truthday:
A new bill in the United States House of Representatives seeks to have the US Secretary of State collaborate with Nigeria to counter what lawmakers describe as the destabilizing impact of illegal Chinese mining operations in the country.

The “Nigeria Religious Freedom and Accountability Act of 2026” was introduced on Tuesday by five Republican lawmakers: Chris Smith, Riley Moore, Brian Mast, Mario Diaz-Balart, and Bill Huizenga. The sponsors allege that some Chinese mining companies operating in Nigeria have been paying protection money to Fulani militias, fueling local violence and insecurity.

Under the proposed legislation, the Secretary of State would provide technical support to Nigeria aimed at reducing and ultimately eliminating militia-related violence, including through disarmament programs and comprehensive counter-terrorism cooperation. The bill also calls for coordination with international partners such as France, Hungary, and the UK to advance religious freedom and peace.

Clauses 10 and 11 of the bill specifically direct:

“The Secretary of State should work with the Government of Nigeria to counteract the hostile foreign exploitation of Chinese illegal mining operations and their destabilizing practice of paying protection money to Fulani militias.”

Source: https://guardian.ng/news/militia-funding-us-bill-targets-illegal-chinese-mining-in-nigeria/
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Mirasteel: 2:55pm On Jun 18
Emeskhalifa:
This is no deal, so long Isreal isn't part of the deal.

The fight was between Iran and Israel, before America jumped into it in other to support Isreal, so how come Isreal is not part of the deal?

This gives room for Israel to attack Iran in the nearest future
It's Israel that invited US to the war, infact Israel pushed America.

Also America is bigger than Israel so it's right for America to be the one to decide.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Yusman316(m): 2:55pm On Jun 18
GOVERNORR:
Trump has indeed effected change in global history..

Eliminating the tyrant and having Iran now willing to be in business with the Western world.

That's some serious geopolitics
Chief it was sanctions from America and Europe that prevented Iran from doing business with America and Europe not intentionally by Iran
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Honestey: 2:56pm On Jun 18
FalseProphet1:
I see Iran and Isreal engaging each other in a brutal war, I see Isreal using their nukes on Iran, I see death everywhere.

This I have seen.

That means you are seeing world economy depression which forced Trump to succumb to Iran now
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Neoteny(m): 2:56pm On Jun 18
mysticwarrior:
For decades, the United States has proudly proclaimed, "We do not negotiate with terrorists." It has branded Iran a sponsor of terrorism, imposed crippling sanctions, rallied allies against it, and used that label to justify years of political and economic pressure.

Yet today, the same United States finds itself sitting across the negotiating table from the very nation it has spent decades condemning.

So what became of the principle that America claimed was non-negotiable? Was it truly a matter of principle, or merely a convenient slogan invoked when it served strategic interests and quietly abandoned when circumstances demanded otherwise?

If negotiating with Iran is now acceptable, then the world is left to ask: was the policy ever about terrorism at all, or has it always been about power, leverage, and political convenience?
Good point.

It essentially boils down to this: every US president knew that Iran was never really an adversary of the US, but of Israel's. The colonial imperialist ethnostate wants to be the dominant power in the middle east, but there were 3 major snags: Iran, Iraq, and Syria. Iraq and Syria have been defanged, leaving Iran.

For 40 years, Netanhayu has been shopping for any US president willing to wreck Iran as a nation on behalf of Israel, so that Israel can achieve its 'Eretz Yisrael' plan by acquiring lebensraum from Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. When Israel invaded Lebanon in the 70s, Hezbollah was formed a few years later (in the 80s) as a resistance group, with support from Iran. Every US president turned down Netanhayu's plan against Iran because they knew it won't be easy.

Finally, Netanhayu found a willing accomplice in Trump, who underestimated the fiery response of Iran against US bases, neighboring collaborator states, and choking the Strait.

By the time trump realized Netanhayu had led him to the biggest blunder of his administration, the world economy was already reeling from Iran's control of the Straits. So Trump needed an offramp fast. Iran, while battered, knew they had all the cards and were ready to strangle the world economy longer than the global economy could bear.

So Trump cut a deal to get out, and here we are.

A few things to note: despite the battle cry of a nuclear-armed Iran, it was never really a threat to the US or even Israel. Nukes are not offensive weapons today, they're deterrence. Iran does not have any intercontinental vehicle capable of reaching the US. And any nuclear offensive attempt by Iran to either Israel or the US would guarantee the absolute decimation of Iran. As mad as the IRGC is, they're not suicidal nor would they sacrifice their own people. Besides, ballistic missiles seem even far more potent and not as morally reprehensible as nukes.

Now Israel is feeling betrayed, most of the US is feeling humiliated, and trump can finally breathe a sigh of some relief.

The US has militarily won the war, but Iran is the actual economic, political, and strategic victor.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Mirasteel: 2:57pm On Jun 18
LagosOrigin:
Trump almost erased Iran from civilization but he was stopped by a general whom I've forgotten his name , you can read it up on Google.

Iran get lucky
Keep typing rubbish!

America that doesn't have any civilization wants to erase a country that is thousands of years old, a country that has stood tall during the old times, fought countless of wars and won. them never born Trump well.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Razzness(m): 2:58pm On Jun 18
Strength is facing the most powerful military in the history of the world and the most genocidal state in modern times and standing your ground, fighting back and holding out long enough for them to leave you alone. There are very few countries in the world today that can achieve that feat, and Iran is one of them. The sooner you swallow this reality the better for you grin.

Helinuse:
Strength by losing almost everything and surviving?
Is that strength?

Does that mean the Taliban are stronger than them, too?
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Leepeak(m): 2:59pm On Jun 18
Ironfaceman:
Dr Orlando owoh's song comes to mind
( E get as E bi)

With this signing Trump has vindicated Obama.
In as much as the war was meaningless to the US. I feel Netanyahu manipulated Trump so much.

Now Trump afraid that Republicans will lose November elections with the rising cost of fuel in the US. $8 as against $2, in bidens Era. have made a deal with the devil.
U have a clues of why he press for it
Trump has two options
Win one of the two
Go to war with Iran, and make some cash, lose men, lose resources and the war will be lengthy only God knows the time and how much USA will lose
Or win midterm elections
Donald choose wisely to lose the war in Iran and win midterm
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Yusman316(m): 2:59pm On Jun 18
ceejay80s:
Iran too should remove their eyes from what is not their business,
if U see Lebanon and Israel fighting, if U can't settle it, stay away
peace deal will be made, Oman or Lebanon or Pakistan, Uzbekistan etc go find trouble with Israel and iran go carry demself involved and U expect Israel to keep quiet
But it is okay for America to support Ukraine when Russia and Ukraine are fighting? Instead of trying to make peace
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Opmic: 2:59pm On Jun 18
Ironfaceman:
Dr Orlando owoh's song comes to mind
( E get as E bi)

With this signing Trump has vindicated Obama.
In as much as the war was meaningless to the US. I feel Netanyahu manipulated Trump so much.

Now Trump afraid that Republicans will lose November elections with the rising cost of fuel in the US. $8 as against $2, in bidens Era. have made a deal with the devil.
We would know after 60 days,
Know this and know , trump is still looking for the right excuse and justification to bomb the hell out of Iran
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Mirasteel: 3:00pm On Jun 18
Emmamay10:
To some extent, this deal shows how considerate US and President Trump are, unlike the greedy war monger in Moscow.
What about the zionist devil in Israel is he not even worse?

Atleast Putin is reasonable and he isn't committing genocide.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Yusman316(m): 3:00pm On Jun 18
Leepeak:
U have a clues of why he press for it
Trump has two options
Win one of the two
Go to war with Iran, and make some cash, lose men, lose resources and the war will be lengthy only God knows the time and how much USA will lose
Or win midterm elections
Donald choose wisely to lose the war in Iran and win midterm
There is no guarantee this move will win him mid-term elections. It could end up a lose lose situation for him
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Biodun1929(m): 3:01pm On Jun 18
This war thing is funny o. So after all the people that have died, including women and children, the leaders.sit together and sign an agreement. The thing is just funny to me. I wonder if they have nightmares about all the people they indirectly killed.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by livelymatilda: 3:02pm On Jun 18
LagosOrigin:
Trump almost erased Iran from civilization but he was stopped by a general whom I've forgotten his name , you can read it up on Google.

Iran get lucky
Yea..General Peter Obi...Right ?
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Yusman316(m): 3:02pm On Jun 18
Opmic:
We would know after 60 days,
Know this and know , trump is still looking for the right excuse and justification to bomb the hell out of Iran
Why didn't he do that when there wasn't any negotiations?
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Mirasteel: 3:02pm On Jun 18
ceejay80s:
Iran too should remove their eyes from what is not their business,
if U see Lebanon and Israel fighting, if U can't settle it, stay away
peace deal will be made, Oman or Lebanon or Pakistan, Uzbekistan etc go find trouble with Israel and iran go carry demself involved and U expect Israel to keep quiet
So you want innocent people to die just like that? even Trump has warned Netanyahu to stop killing innocent people, we all saw the genocide that happened in Gaza. are you happy that innocent people are getting killed?
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by QuinQ: 3:02pm On Jun 18
HacheNoire:
That was post Trump breaking away from the deal!

IAEA inspection was part of Obama deal.
See below. It really was a bad deal that gave Iran lots of money and allowed them all sorts of ways to hide their nuclear program till they obtained a nuclear weapon

Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Abioladoks: 3:03pm On Jun 18
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by Razzness(m): 3:06pm On Jun 18
Does it matter if they intend to use it or not, the fact of the matter is Israel and US are nuclear powers and Iran fought back against them anyway. grin

UzorIyke:
These are two nuclear powers that have no intention of using their nukes, if its the other way round, by now Israel have been wipe out.
So nothing much happened.
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by otipoju(m): 3:06pm On Jun 18
ceejay80s:
Iran too should remove their eyes from what is not their business,
if U see Lebanon and Israel fighting, if U can't settle it, stay away
peace deal will be made, Oman or Lebanon or Pakistan, Uzbekistan etc go find trouble with Israel and iran go carry demself involved and U expect Israel to keep quiet
They can't because those groups like hezbollah, hamas and the houthis were created, armed and are sponsored by Iran
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by malakaimoscondo: 3:07pm On Jun 18
UzorIyke:
These are two nuclear powers that have no intention of using their nukes, if its the other way round, by now Israel have been wipe out.
So nothing much happened.
disappointed nairaland Americans/Israel citizens....Iran pepe them
Re: US And Iranian Presidents Sign Deal Aiming To End War by malakaimoscondo: 3:08pm On Jun 18
GOVERNORR:
Trump has indeed effected change in global history..

Eliminating the tyrant and having Iran now willing to be in business with the Western world.

That's some serious geopolitics
lol...u are a smart write openly but. Pained troll inside..viva iran
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