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chidiokay:
some of yiu are just Problematic in reasoning You just creat unnecessary arguement

By logical standard . Iran is a sovereign nations there players are in worldcup, how did can you categorise Iran as terrorist,. we only have tertorist group as there is no terrorist nation anywhere
Nigerians have citizens that sponspor terrorism Same way Iran have citizens involved in terrorism that, are Nigerians terrorist.

By logical reasoning Two sovereign nations are signing a Peace deal,. country dont sign peace deal with iswap or boko haram or give example

Positing US is negotiating with terorist is bsseless & false, irans national team wont be in world cup if America consider iran iswap group

that peace deal will be doing the world a lot of good, so rest

Your argument misses a key fact: whether Iran is a sovereign state or not is irrelevant to the point being made. The criticism is about inconsistency. For decades, the U.S. has labeled Iran a state sponsor of terrorism and used that label to justify sanctions and pressure. Yet when its interests require it, it sits down to negotiate with the same government.

The question is simple: if "we don't negotiate with terrorists" is a principle, why does it suddenly become negotiable when geopolitics demands it? That's the contradiction being highlighted.

Yusman316:
Not true

Okay. No wahala. No need for arguing

Let there be Ceasefire and let peace reign, not only in the Middle East but in every nation having one conflict or the other.
That's my Prayer on daily basis.

I declare Global peace in Jesus Mighty name, amen!

Olaide Mudasiru,
Prophet to the world

GOVERNORR:
Trump has indeed effected change in global history..

Eliminating the tyrant and having Iran now willing to be in business with the Western world.

That's some serious geopolitics

Am not sure you even read one line of the agreement. If you did , this won’t be your comment. Most Nigerians are intellectually lazy honestly..

Flangelo12:
Iran flexed its muscle and the world was astounded.

terrorists sympathizer, supreme leader is gone plus all generals are with their 72 virgins

madridguy:
Only if Trump will be a man enough to come out publicly to say what he sees in the hand of Iran.

Those guys caused damages worth billions of dollars.

I love the part that reads "for the reconstruction of Iran"😂😂
Iran agreed to be handed 300 Billion USD as the price tag for the lives of Ayatollah, Larijani,
Abdolrahim Mousavi, Mohammad Pakpour, Majid Mousavi, Aziz Nasirzadeh, Ali Shamkhani, Gholamreza Rezaian, Majid Khademi, Alireza Tangsiri, Asghar Bagheri, Yazdan Mir, Jamshid Eshaghi, Ali Mohammad Naini, the 168 schoolgirls.
Na who die lose sha😂

Ironfaceman:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crr8z4z2er9o

God bless Islamic Republic of Iran
God bless IRGC

Victory for Iran was Never about winning militarily; it was about surviving the onslaught of two Nuclear armed state and they did. Plus, they are now getting sanction reliefs, 300 billion dollars, stopping Israels expansion into Lebanon, and a newfound control over the Strait of Hormuz; that is a strategic victory.

I heard someone say Cubans are now begging Trump to come and attack them and give them 300 billion dollars too.

Helinuse:
That is to say: strength lies only in your head.
You need to face reality.

If they were really genocidal, they have nukes, Iran wouldn't only lose their Supleme leader the first day, it would have lost the whole country.



But I appreciate the fact that you said "...holding out long enough for them to leave you alone."
You didn't wallow in self-deceit the same way your folks do when they claim that Iran was victorious.
So, I appreciate your sincerity.

madridguy:
Only if Trump will be a man enough to come out publicly to say what he sees in the hand of Iran.

Those guys caused damages worth billions of dollars.

I don't know why you are always happy with war,so you want the war to continue.iran won't build nuclear weapons get that .so they won't wake up anyday and give you one to finish Nigeria Christian

Razzness:
Credit where credit is due abeg. Iran just came up against two nuclear powers and displayed strength to the entire world; Now they are getting a deal that even Khamenei would not have dreamed of when the war started.

As if they had any choice😂
The deal that Khamenei failed to get is now being signed while he's rotting away. A serious country would have fought with its last pint of blood to get justice for its leader before agreeing to sit for any deal.
The US is a very big bully because how you go kpai Pesin papa come give am money as compensation?😂
Iran collect 300 Billion forget about Ayatollah Ali Khamenei😂

madridguy:
Only if Trump will be a man enough to come out publicly to say what he sees in the hand of Iran.

Those guys caused damages worth billions of dollars.

Bro, there's something called satellite confirmation.

If USA incurred damages various news satellites will pick it up.

Before Russia announce 40% of their Refineries destroyed by Ukrainian drones, Various news like Alzereal and Euro times has already picked it up.


But search what was destroyed in Iran, give them 50 years, they can't rebuild.


USA destroyed:
1. Destroyed 80 oil and gas industries in Iran
2. Destroyed all Iran's Steel factories
3. Destroy Iran's Chemical factories
4. Destroyed all Iran's navy ships.

5. Killed their Supreme leader and all his cabinet
6. Killed half of Iran's Ministers
7. Killed half of Iranians politicians
8. Killed almost all their military leaders
9. Destroyed half of Iran's Military.

10. Destroyed Iranian Logistics sites.
11. Destroyed half of Iran's capital.
12. Put their new supreme leader in hospital.
13 destroyed all 3 of their nuclear sites.

14. Made Iran lose $500 million daily with Naval blockage.

Still, Iran signed the deal TO SURRENDER THEIR URANIUMS AND NEVER TO BUILD NUKES AGAIN.

WHAT DID IRAN DESTROY IN USA, COMPARE IT TO THESE?


Why did Iran signed the nuclear deal to surrender their uraniums to be destroy?


Why do you think Iran signed the deal the night USA destroyed their Logistics center, instead of crying "ceasefire violation"

Freshandfitpod:
terrorists sympathizer, supreme leader is gone plus all generals are with their 72 virgins

Calling people who don't agree with you terrorists of their sympathisers is losing its lustre.

It's outdated, antediluvian even.

mysticwarrior:

Your argument misses a key fact: whether Iran is a sovereign state or not is y to the point being made. The criticism is about inconsistency. For decades, the U.S. has labeled Iran a state sponsor of terrorism and used that label to justify sanctions and pressure

You know your problem, You feel you are intelligent, so let me engage, when i said a country is a sovereign nation it also means A country is an entity, what that implies is that A nation is fundamentally innocent, You can't libel a whole country Terorist becos you have info some members of the govt are actively involve in terrorism thats why US targeted nd killed iran leader
speaking of sanctions there are multiple sanctions on IRAN, use google

. Yet when its interests re5quire it, it sits down to negotiate with the same government.

Now let me ask the iran Us isreal crisis .. is it act of terrorism or ego war, what is iran guilty of that isreal is not guilty of.
Us lured the supreme leader of iran out nd killed him, US started a needless war they brought gobal crisis to All, its there responsibility to Fix it. We can't wait to see the Peace deal.

The question is simple: if "we don't negotiate with terrorists" is a principle, why does it suddenly become negotiable when geopolitics demands it? That's the contradiction being highlighted.

Lol ! God creat people sha ! US can host iran national team But it absurb they sign a peace deal to end a war they started on unprovoked 🤣

The war is affecting the glonal world, any sane prtson should be happy n pray it works, But No here you are ranting .. The war should continue people should suffer becos you want US to live up to a Principle coming from a nigerian 🤣

Even Khamenei go kpai himself for Iran to get 300 billion dollars. Who Khamenei help? he is 86 years old, make him self go rest. 300 billion dollars is bigger than Iran's current economy and they are also getting sanctions relief, they are now selling their oil at international prices, they got Israel to stop their expansion in Lebanon, and a newfound control over the strait of hormuz. If the US had asked nicely before the war am sure Iran would have gave them Khamenei and every gram of enriched uranium in their possession to get all this. This deal is heaven and earth for Iran, I still can't believe it's real.

UrVillageChief:
As if they had any choice😂
The deal that Khamenei failed to get is now being signed while he's rotting away. A serious country would have fought with its last pint of blood to get justice for its leader before agreeing to sit for any deal.
The US is a very big bully because how you go kpai Pesin papa come give am money as compensation?😂
Iran collect 300 Billion forget about Ayatollah Ali Khamenei😂

QuinQ:
Nonsense. US and Israel and Iran negotiated very heavily before the war. The last high level negotiations were in Geneva on Feb 26, where everything was agreed upon EXCEPT ONE : Iran would not allow UN inspectors in. They reached an agreement to deal with that later - two days later Israel struct and wiped out Ayatollah and co!

Iran just handed Trump a reprieve because they are desperate. This is a bad deal for them because nothing stops Trump from dumping all this right after elections

Your argument is unacceptable under basic facts. If Iran was truly "desperate," why was the United States negotiating with it in the first place? Major powers do not spend months in high-level talks with actors they consider irrelevant. More importantly, negotiations between sovereign states are diplomacy, not charity.

The moment Washington sits across the table from Tehran, it acknowledges Iran as a state actor whose interests must be reckoned with. Calling Iran a terrorist state one day and negotiating with it the next only exposes the gap between political rhetoric and geopolitical reality.

chidiokay:
Lol ! God creat people sha ! US can host iran national team But it absurb they sign a peace deal to end a war they started on unprovoked 🤣

The war is affecting the glonal world, any sane prtson should be happy n pray it works, But No here you are ranting .. The war should continue people should suffer becos you want US to live up to a Principle coming from a nigerian 🤣

For someone accusing others of abandoning principles, you're doing the same. The issue isn't whether people want peace, everyone does. The issue is the hypocrisy of launching an unprovoked war, causing deaths and global instability, then demanding applause for signing a deal to end the very crisis you created.

Wanting peace doesn't require pretending the aggressor deserves credit for cleaning up its own mess. Peace is welcome, but accountability still matters.

Razzness:
1. It was about surviving
2. Stopping Israels expansion into Lebanon
3. That is a strategic victory.

1. True
2. Ok.
3. Ok.

mysticwarrior:
Your argument is unacceptable under basic facts. If Iran was truly "desperate," why was the United States negotiating with it in the first place? Major powers do not spend months in high-level talks with actors they consider irrelevant. More importantly, negotiations between sovereign states are diplomacy, not charity.

The moment Washington sits across the table from Tehran, it acknowledges Iran as a state actor whose interests must be reckoned with. Calling Iran a terrorist state one day and negotiating with it the next only exposes the gap between political rhetoric and geopolitical reality.

How can you possibly confuse desperate with irrelevant. Trump is also desperate but ONLY because he's facing a mid-term elections that could see him IMPEACHED if Dems get enough seats. If Iran were not desperate they should have refused any deal till after the elections.

As it is, what Iran just told Trump is: "Ok, let's pause so you can do your elections, after that you have the option to start bombing us again under any excuse"

You get arguments before

Helinuse:
1. True
2. Ok.
3. Ok.

mysticwarrior:
For someone accusing others of abandoning principles, you're doing the same. The issue isn't whether people want peace, everyone does. The issue is the hypocrisy of launching an unprovoked war, causing deaths and global instability, then demanding applause for signing a deal to end the very crisis you created.

Wanting peace doesn't require pretending the aggressor deserves credit for cleaning up its own mess. Peace is welcome, but accountability still matters.

whejn you are Wrong, the Question of Principle is void, here, infact what US did they deserve sanction, no country can try it n get way with it
That iran as agreed to sit with US for a peace deal, Iran is doing the world a favor cos, the needlezz war can continue nd strait of hormuz we remain block we continue to suffer
Trump had realized they can't win the fight contrary to what he anticipated,, A quote of wisdom says it always Beta to jawjjaw than WarWar .. when you grow older you will understand

As a nigerian i expect you to be happy, America as wlfare package to cushion the war effect on there citizen, in your own country na OYO we dey ..... i dont think you are normal

Razzness:
You get arguments before

Who I be?
Who Israel be?
Who America BE?

Iran na world super power na.
See as dem don clear Netanyahu and Trump.
Dem even clear the next batch of leaders of Israel and USA.
Dem come allow the third batch dey alive.

Razzness:
Even Khamenei go kpai himself for Iran to get 300 billion dollars. Who Khamenei help? he is 86 years old, make him self go rest. 300 billion dollars is bigger than Iran's current economy and they are also getting sanctions relief, they are now selling their oil at international prices, they got Israel to stop their expansion in Lebanon, and a newfound control over the strait of hormuz. If the US had asked nicely before the war am sure Iran would have gave them Khamenei and every gram of enriched uranium in their possession to get all this. This deal is heaven and earth for Iran, I still can't believe it's real.

Thank you for the confirmation that money is worth more than human lives in Iran😂😂
This doesn't even exclude their most respected religious leader.
This again, highlights the stark difference between these two countries. While one doesn't joke with the lives of even the lowest of its citizens, the other While one spent a fortune, sacrificed aircrafts and resources to retrieve just one pilot, the other is settling for monetary compensation. The likes of Ayatollah, the 168 innocent schoolgirls, Abdolrahim Mousavi, Mohammad Pakpour, Majid Mousavi, Aziz Nasirzadeh, Ali Shamkhani, Gholamreza Rezaian, Majid Khademi, Alireza Tangsiri, Asghar Bagheri, Yazdan Mir, Jamshid Eshaghi, Ali Mohammad Nain, all died for nothing. Again, na who die lose.

It's sickening to realise that only the supposed chosen of God are unhappy with this development and their sick fans, starting with righteousness.

I thought your religion was all about peace.

Even trump, the pdf file demon has a better heart

Shame on Satanyahu

No Iranian died for nothing ; they died on their feet for their country's freedom from imperialists never bowing down. And their future generations will reap the spoils of victory like they are doing now

UrVillageChief:
Thank you for the confirmation that money is worth more than human lives in Iran😂😂
This doesn't even exclude their most respected religious leader.
This again, highlights the stark difference between these two countries. While one doesn't joke with the lives of even the lowest of its citizens, the other While one spent a fortune, sacrificed aircrafts and resources to retrieve just one pilot, the other is settling for monetary compensation. The likes of Ayatollah, the 168 innocent schoolgirls, Abdolrahim Mousavi, Mohammad Pakpour, Majid Mousavi, Aziz Nasirzadeh, Ali Shamkhani, Gholamreza Rezaian, Majid Khademi, Alireza Tangsiri, Asghar Bagheri, Yazdan Mir, Jamshid Eshaghi, Ali Mohammad Nain, all died for nothing. Again, na who die lose.

FalseProphet1:
I see Iran and Isreal engaging each other in a brutal war, I see Isreal using their nukes on Iran, I see death everywhere.

This I have seen.

If Israel can nuke Iran🇮🇷, that's the end of Israel.
The era of Hiroshima/Nagasaki is obsolete.
This i have seen 👀 and confirmed✅

Gbadugbakun:
So when is dangote going to reduce fuel back to N700. Because that's the only thing that concerns me.

Better accept the current price, nothing for you people down there.

Razzness:
No Iranian died for nothing ; they died on their feet for their country's freedom from imperialists never bowing down. And their future generations will reap the spoils of victory like they are doing now

They actually died for nothing for accepting a deal. Accepting the deal (a deal they constantly denied negotiating initially btw😂) ultimately signals that the Iranian people can be killed like fowls if you want and all you need to appease them is monetary compensation because how Pesin go kill your papa, mama, Generals, 168 innocent kids and over 3 thousand others and even destroyed your home and you still carried your two left legs to go sign a deal with such a person?😂
Imagine killing Putin, his wife, mother together with many of his Generals only for Russia to agree to collecting monetary compensation😂
No, Russia would never accept that and nobody can even try such nonsense with a super power because it's going to signal the end of civilization
The compensation even has a clause that it would be disbursed only if Iran complies with the terms of the deal😂
BTW, what is Iran going to rebuild with the 300 Billion because the last time I checked, bots on this forum claimed Iran wasn't destroyed.

You go explain taya. You dey compare Russia wey be world power to Iran wey be average country with almost 50 years of sanctions . Who Khamenei help? The man is 86 years old make him self go rest. Nothing concern me with generals wey kpai; that wan na their cup of tea (occupational hazard). Watin concern me be say Iran save Lebanon from Israeli terrorism, get sanction relief, 300 billion that is much bigger than their current economy, announced themselves to the world as a regional power and most importantly turned Trump and JD Vance against Israel. That is heaven and earth for Iran

UrVillageChief:
They actually died for nothing for accepting a deal. Accepting the deal (a deal they constantly denied negotiating initially btw😂) ultimately signals that the Iranian people can be killed like fowls if you want and all you need to appease them is monetary compensation because how Pesin go kill your papa, mama, Generals, 168 innocent kids and over 3 thousand others and even destroyed your home and you still carried your two left legs to go sign a deal with such a person?😂
Imagine killing Putin, his wife, mother together with many of his Generals only for Russia to agree to collecting monetary compensation😂
No, Russia would never accept that and nobody can even try such nonsense with a super power because it's going to signal the end of civilization
The compensation even has a clause that it would be disbursed only if Iran complies with the terms of the deal😂
BTW, what is Iran going to rebuild with the 300 Billion because the last time I checked, bots on this forum claimed Iran wasn't destroyed.

Razzness:
You go explain taya. You dey compare Russia wey be world power to Iran wey be average country with almost 50 years of sanctions .

Gbaam, so na now you finally get sense. Good morning😂 Isn't this the point of the whole argument? We the sane ones are telling you that they aren't mates and that one party is being lenient but you said no, that they are mates and that Iran has now emerged a superpower or isn't that your claim?
Anyway, thanks for the admittance that as far as wars and power is concern, Iran is stark average but funnily, your fellow delulus on this forum don't agree with this your statement and them fit kpai you for this revelation. E be like say na only you Wan get small sense like this o😂
Again, thanks for the admittance, nothing more to add. You are being ignored now.

QuinQ:
TOTALLY wrong. See the ONLY excuse for the war below. Everything else was agreed upon.

Trump and others have said repeatedly that regime change wasn't an objective but that it unintentionally happened anyway

They attempted regime change by causing internal unrest targeted at causing chaos and possibly overthrow of the regime.
Nevertheless, its obvious whatever their reason for the war was not achieved, rather they Iran in a powerful position.

Richcreed:
They attempted regime change by causing internal unrest targeted at causing chaos and possibly overthrow of the regime.
Nevertheless, its obvious whatever their reason for the war was not achieved, rather they Iran in a powerful position.

Read Vance's statement below. If you pause a war to focus on mid-term elections there is no law that says you can't start again after the elections