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Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Lanre1st(m): 7:04am On Jun 19
Haa! It's like I'm dreaming as the things turn out between US-Isreal and Iran.

I can't believe this, or is it stage
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Vifx: 7:04am On Jun 19
JD Vance's criticism exposes a contradiction many have pointed out for years: if military force alone could solve Israel's security challenges, decades of wars, occupations, and bombardments would have already brought lasting peace. You cannot bomb an ideology out of existence, nor can you kill your way to regional stability.

If Israel doesn't like the deal, what exactly is the alternative? More bombing? Another occupation? Regime change? Endless war? It's easy to reject diplomacy, but any serious criticism of a deal should come with a realistic plan that produces better outcomes. Political solutions are imperfect, but history suggests they are far more durable than perpetual military escalation.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Resonance2019: 7:05am On Jun 19
Harnny:
Do you ever bother to read history and find out the origin of Hezbollah?. Do not ever compare them to those idiots in Nigeria.
Oya nw tell about those who went to the sovereign state of Israel abducted killed uncountable number citizens including minors.Tells abeg
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by jaxxy(m): 7:08am On Jun 19
Harnny:
Who exactly is the terrorist?

Iran hates the US for all the right reasons. Read up on history. Infact, Iran will not be a concern to US no matter the number of people they might claim to have killed if they do not have oil.

US bombed Iranian civilian plane and never apologized for it, this was decades before 9/11. This was never called terrorism.

Also, see the history of Hezbollah and find out why they were formed. They had all the right intentions. They have every opportunity to complete collapse the Lebanese government but they did not.

Then ask yourself again, who is the terrorist?.
Iran has bombed its a civilian plane in blind rage. Iran has killed thousands of its own people. They support terrorist causing problems in the whole middle east. Everybody knows this. Iran is not the only muslim nation in the midfle east. The US gets along with with peace loving countries.

It was saddam hussein of iraq who invaded kuwait for its oil not the US and the US had to come rescue kuwait or they wouldnt exist today.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by EMDIEY: 7:15am On Jun 19
Salt06:
Amazing 👏
the way you terrorist sympathisers turn blind eyes to the activities of terrorists need study
Calling everyone that doesn't share your warped view terrorist sympathiser tells a lot about your IQ.
Israel has refused to stop bombing even when diplomacy is on the table, and Hezbollah has agreed to stand down.
So how do you achieve peace in the middle East.
Continuous bombing and counter bombing is leading no where.
Trump sees the reality of the war and went back to the same diplomacy he initially destroyed, and it's the wise move at this point than destroying the global economy and peace.
The real terrorists are the ones that support genocide as a payback for Oct 7.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Blunt99: 7:18am On Jun 19
Mynd44:
So America is admitting that Isreal kills without reason
Just like Islmc terrorists kill without reason.

It is a case of matching barbarism with barbarism.

That is the only language those your guys understand.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by CodeTemplar: 7:19am On Jun 19
Mynd44:
So America is admitting that Isreal kills without reason
Oct 07 is not a reason to you. Missiles are not. Harming civillians is not. Wooow
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Blunt99: 7:21am On Jun 19
Resonance2019:
Oya nw tell about those who went to the sovereign state of Israel abducted killed uncountable number citizens including minors.Tells abeg
Not even animals (dogs) were left out.

They killed any living thing they saw.

But now, Israel is the one that is babaric for matching their energy.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Iamzik: 7:23am On Jun 19
Putinofrussia:
Israel will just be fighting till eternity except it can kill off all Arabs.
The best security is to be friendly with your neighbors,
Friendship is a two way street
Why don't you advice Hezbollah to be friendly to Israel and stop shooting rockets at isreal

How do you become friends with someone who believes that you don't even have the right to exist?
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Deepthoughts: 7:24am On Jun 19
EponObi:
Lmaoooooo.... I'm loving this cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

This only shows that the US and Trump are only after their own interest. So they know that Israel can't bomb and kill their way out of every problem? grin Wonderment!

Where was this thinking when they watched and supported the same Israel with weapons to obliterate Gaza to dust? Where was this logic when they invaded Iran and assassinated the Ayatollah? Where was this logic when they invaded Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela?

So because Iran was smarter than them and locked the world's energy supply to a chokehold, they now realize that you can't kill your way out of every security problems? cheesy cheesy cheesy You are delusional if you think the US and Trump didn't lose this war. Lmaooooo.


I hope this serve as an eye opener to other nations. America only acts in their own self-interest. Because their oil reserve was about to be totally depleted, gas price was becoming unbearable, and mid-term election is coming up in November, they abandoned the war and threw Israel under the bus. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy Before you know, Trump go dey slam them with tariffs. This is unprecedented. They did this to Israel of all nations but some delulu Nigerians taught Trump will come to save them from some fake Christian genocides. What a day to be alive. grin grin grin

Chai!


Just imagine for a moment that their EU and Asian allies joined them, na so Trump go throw them under the bus.

And all this is happening for only one reason: they can't and couldn't defeat Iran. If they defeated Iran and did regime change, na something else Trump and this JD go dey talk. Trump go just dey boost about how he's the best and the US military is the best in the world. "Their regime collapsed like domino cards. It was too easy. Too too easy." cheesy Omo, for this life, no dem see you finish ooo. Massive respect to Iran!
I wonder how you people don't see anything wrong with the evil actions or Hezbollah Hamas n Iran itself but always celebrates the slightest negativity against Israel,but know it that except God ceases to be God almighty, Israel shall never fall!.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by CodeTemplar: 7:25am On Jun 19
Vifx:
JD Vance's criticism exposes a contradiction many have pointed out for years: if military force alone could solve Israel's security challenges, decades of wars, occupations, and bombardments would have already brought lasting peace. You cannot bomb an ideology out of existence, nor can you kill your way to regional stability.

If Israel doesn't like the deal, what exactly is the alternative? More bombing? Another occupation? Regime change? Endless war? It's easy to reject diplomacy, but any serious criticism of a deal should come with a realistic plan that produces better outcomes. Political solutions are imperfect, but history suggests they are far more durable than perpetual military escalation.
Isreal is not killing for fun or for lasting peace but for survival. To be israel is to battle evil all your life(persecution). They did not bargain for that.

Oct 07 is fresh enough in our memory. Across the middle east, we all saw the massive jubilation even by those who dont share a border with isreal. How do you explain a land dispute with someone you are not sharing a border with?
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by DeOTR: 7:27am On Jun 19
Iamzik:
Friendship is a two way street
Why don't you advice Hezbollah to be friendly to Israel and stop shooting rockets at isreal

How do you become friends with someone who believes that you don't even have the right to exist?
Stop exchanging words with Muslims. They're not programmed to reason. Anything that's perceived to advance the cause of the Moon god is justified, however barbaric it is.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Procashtips(m): 7:27am On Jun 19
Crying is allowed.

sleek214:
Both you(J D Vance and your boss (Trump) are the most useless team the US have ever had
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by atiku4President(m): 7:28am On Jun 19
ManirBK:
It's boiling down nicely
the weapons dealer just became the peace counselorhuh


You also tell them you (US) learned the hard way 😂
Yes the learned the hard way after eliminating the head of the world terror group. Go and get a life.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Allahismylord: 7:39am On Jun 19
sleek214:
Both you(J D Vance and your boss (Trump) are the most useless team the US have ever had
Omo. See as you just turn 360 to curse your lords and personal saviour. Nawa o. Just because they are refuting israel.

grin grin grin
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Arrowhead71: 7:41am On Jun 19
Mynd44:
So America is admitting that Isreal kills without reason
Don't listen to him...
America again killed 3 people on the sea yesterday for transporting drug ....so what is JD Van or Vance talking about
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Arrowhead71: 7:43am On Jun 19
But Trump said yesterday that if Isreal attacks Iran America will back Israel ....so only them know their plan
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by NOETHNICITY(m): 7:43am On Jun 19
jaxxy:
But iran and hezbollah terrorists are killing their way through?

Can u negotiate with terrorist? we will find out in 60 days time.
You are now very isolated

The world has moved on from your current position
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Reference(m): 7:44am On Jun 19
Thank you JD.
Just the reality.
This eye for an eye thing is Old Testament. Even God Almighty has abandoned it.
If he was in support He will not have any creation left to worship Him because man and offences are inseparable.

People must be ready to sit down and talk out their political differences.
No one will have it all.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Putinofrussia: 7:49am On Jun 19
Iamzik:
Friendship is a two way street
Why don't you advice Hezbollah to be friendly to Israel and stop shooting rockets at isreal

How do you become friends with someone who believes that you don't even have the right to exist?
It was Israel that invaded Lebanon and
Hezbollah was founded in 1982 by a group of Lebanese Shia clerics to resist the Israeli invasion and occupation of southern Lebanon with backing from Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by chidiokay: 7:52am On Jun 19
EponObi:
Lmaoooooo.... I'm loving this cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

This only shows that the US and Trump are only after their own interest. So they know that Israel can't bomb and kill their way out of every problem? grin Wonderment!

I hope this serve as an eye opener to other nations. America only acts in their own self-interest. Because their oil reserve was about to be totally depleted, gas price was becoming unbearable, and mid-term election is coming up in November, they abandoned the war and threw Israel under the bus. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy Before you know, Trump go dey slam them with tariffs. This is unprecedented. They did this to Israel of all nations[b] but some delulu Nigerians taught Trump will come to save them from some fake Christian genocides. What a day to be alive. grin grin grin
i have no issh with your submission except for the highlight, Hi ! we the delulu are not wrong tp assrrt America or Trump hss the capacity to alienate terrorist grpup in Nigeria, evidence is the ISWAP leader that was killed recenty in Nigeria as announce by Trump.

Their is a saying Nothing God can not do, But what God wil not do man dey, thats just the
Nigeria govt are tew complicit & compromised, Amrrica can't stand such Rats, in 2015 they gave intelligences on how to rescue chibok gurlz, the plan was to gas sleep the terrorist camp, by the time Us troop fly in to release gas the terrorist were All covering there noses at night ..



We the delulu are not wrong to believe america can rescue Nigrrians from those malnourished animals we see in the Bush, our biggest saboteur is the Govt you support, whether you accept it or not, Fact as it More xtaims have being killed than any tribe and more churches attack than mosques by this insurgences. its doesnt have to be 100 , 80% from a hypothesis is enough to concluded Fact

if only Tinubu can use the same energy dey use to fightthe narrative, Xtain Genocide to fight Bandits ..we for don dey see result.
i just need to straighten the record

Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Sulex899: 7:55am On Jun 19
Fake bot..
Please stop spreading misinformation.
Are you also an Evil Doer? because how on earth you feel Sane Human Happy and supporting people committing Genocide the whole world witness rn
People of the Epstein gangs
Molesters of children
Iran is not the caused of 911
Iran is not the caused of lives lost during the USS liberty n so on...
Recently United STATES OF AMERICA sen.Thomas massie talked about it during senate gatherings
So Iran is not the problem but Isreal
Hezbollah are only resistance
The land belong to them
Are we still in the past?
Are we still in the colonial Era?
We said we're the most civilized but the people want the Epstein files to be out but are playing hide n seek with us keeping us all dumb asf like you n your kinds out there
What's DEMOCRACY?
ATLEAST people got mentioned 3times but that same PEOPLE do not have a say over government toxic policies
Trust me
IF PEOPLE LIKE you still in Nigeria, Nigeria go STILL De suffer.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Helinuse: 7:56am On Jun 19
EMDIEY:
Israel is like a cancer, a snake that keeps rearing it's ugly head. You can't help them. They'll come back and bite you.
They don't want peace. They prefer to be fighting all their neighbours than diplomacy.
That's why they are suddenly mad at Trump
Has Ezlam ever used diplomacy?
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Guestmale: 7:57am On Jun 19
It's unfortunate Trump and his deputy choose this path. America has always been and will continue to be Israel great partner irrespective of path Trump and his deputy choose to take.Trump is more concerned about world economy which is ok but more importantly than that, Nethayahu is fighting for the survival and continue existent of his people ISRAELITES which its arab neighbors has vowed against.

Israel should continue to do whatever they need to do for their survival and continue existent.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by razzydoo(m): 7:57am On Jun 19
Barbarian don talk. Moo moo...
DeOTR:
Stop exchanging words with Muslims. They're not programmed to reason. Anything that's perceived to advance the cause of the Moon god is justified, however barbaric it is.
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Arrowhead71: 7:58am On Jun 19
EponObi:
Lmaoooooo.... I'm loving this cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

This only shows that the US and Trump are only after their own interest. So they know that Israel can't bomb and kill their way out of every problem? grin Wonderment!

Where was this thinking when they watched and supported the same Israel with weapons to obliterate Gaza to dust? Where was this logic when they invaded Iran and assassinated the Ayatollah? Where was this logic when they invaded Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela?

So because Iran was smarter than them and locked the world's energy supply to a chokehold, they now realize that you can't kill your way out of every security problems? cheesy cheesy cheesy You are delusional if you think the US and Trump didn't lose this war. Lmaooooo.


I hope this serve as an eye opener to other nations. America only acts in their own self-interest. Because their oil reserve was about to be totally depleted, gas price was becoming unbearable, and mid-term election is coming up in November, they abandoned the war and threw Israel under the bus. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy Before you know, Trump go dey slam them with tariffs. This is unprecedented. They did this to Israel of all nations but some delulu Nigerians taught Trump will come to save them from some fake Christian genocides. What a day to be alive. grin grin grin

Chai!


Just imagine for a moment that their EU and Asian allies joined them, na so Trump go throw them under the bus.

And all this is happening for only one reason: they can't and couldn't defeat Iran. If they defeated Iran and did regime change, na something else Trump and this JD go dey talk. Trump go just dey boost about how he's the best and the US military is the best in the world. "Their regime collapsed like domino cards. It was too easy. Too too easy." cheesy Omo, for this life, no dem see you finish ooo. Massive respect to Iran!
Iranians presently don't think like yours ...and if you want to test this your theory. Just tell Iran regime to misbehave and see
what will remain of that regime
For now their loss and damages are estimated in Trillions..next war will empty Iran into minus zero.....
You will know Israel madness is more than Iran and America madness put together
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Arrowhead71: 8:01am On Jun 19
America can kill their way out of drugs in the high sea by killing people on boats.....who listen to JD
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by Vifx: 8:01am On Jun 19
CodeTemplar:
Isreal is not killing for fun or for lasting peace but for survival. To be israel is to battle evil all your life(persecution). They did not bargain for that.

Oct 07 is fresh enough in our memory. Across the middle east, we all saw the massive jubilation even by those who dont share a border with isreal. How do you explain a land dispute with someone you are not sharing a border with?
Nobody is denying that Israel faces genuine security threats or that October 7 was horrific. The question is whether endless military campaigns actually solve those threats.

If Israel's strategy is working, why are Israelis still living under constant security fears after decades of war, occupation, targeted killings, invasions, and blockades? At some point, we have to ask whether military force alone can achieve the safety Israel seeks.

As for people in other countries celebrating October 7, that doesn't necessarily prove a desire for Israel's destruction. Many see the conflict through the lens of Palestinian suffering, rightly or wrongly. You don't have to share a border with a people to sympathize with their cause; otherwise, nobody outside Ukraine would care about Ukraine, and nobody outside South Africa would have cared about apartheid.

The real question remains: if diplomacy is rejected, what is the endgame? What does victory look like, and how does it produce lasting security rather than another cycle of violence?
Re: Yu Can’t Kill Your Way Out Of Security Problems - JD Vance Tells Israel by lightwind(m): 8:02am On Jun 19
EponObi:
Lmaoooooo.... I'm loving this cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

This only shows that the US and Trump are only after their own interest. So they know that Israel can't bomb and kill their way out of every problem? grin Wonderment!

Where was this thinking when they watched and supported the same Israel with weapons to obliterate Gaza to dust? Where was this logic when they invaded Iran and assassinated the Ayatollah? Where was this logic when they invaded Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela?

So because Iran was smarter than them and locked the world's energy supply to a chokehold, they now realize that you can't kill your way out of every security problems? cheesy cheesy cheesy You are delusional if you think the US and Trump didn't lose this war. Lmaooooo.


I hope this serve as an eye opener to other nations. America only acts in their own self-interest. Because their oil reserve was about to be totally depleted, gas price was becoming unbearable, and mid-term election is coming up in November, they abandoned the war and threw Israel under the bus. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy Before you know, Trump go dey slam them with tariffs. This is unprecedented. They did this to Israel of all nations but some delulu Nigerians taught Trump will come to save them from some fake Christian genocides. What a day to be alive. grin grin grin

Chai!


Just imagine for a moment that their EU and Asian allies joined them, na so Trump go throw them under the bus.

And all this is happening for only one reason: they can't and couldn't defeat Iran. If they defeated Iran and did regime change, na something else Trump and this JD go dey talk. Trump go just dey boost about how he's the best and the US military is the best in the world. "Their regime collapsed like domino cards. It was too easy. Too too easy." cheesy Omo, for this life, no dem see you finish ooo. Massive respect to Iran!
Gibberish as usual cos of your hate for America.

As old as you are you believed Iran won the war because of Hormuz Strait ?
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