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Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 4:40pm On Jun 18
Secretbloodline:
That's what I'm talking about your inability to reason when truth is presented as evidence. You ignore the evidence. There is no Black Mother of Yeshua Ben Yossef a Middle Eastern woman in historical context not an African. Dark skinned women are of L maternal haplagroups. They do not originate in the Middle East but in Sub Saharan Africa where the UV radiation darkens their skin to a beautiful black. Middle Eastern women are mostly tan skinned to olive complexion.


When art is used to elevate someone's social status or declare a heritage beyond their measure it's called Idolatry. Its idolatry to paint the mother of Jesus as anything other than a Middle Eastern woman. If Mary stays Middle Eastern then she stays human created by God but if she becomes anything else she becomes an idol of worship a false deity.
How do you know who and who were in ME 2 thousand years ago? Just curious.
In America Mary was definitely a black (coloured) woman. No way she could have been classified anything else.

Do Catholics have this part below in their Bible?

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 5:19pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
How do you know who and who were in ME 2 thousand years ago? Just curious.
In America Mary was definitely a black (coloured) woman. No way she could have been classified anything else.

Do Catholics have this part below in their Bible?
I am an original Catholic. You saw the pictures of the tan skinned Templars and Kings of France which look like me and other Creole tan skinned men because we are their descendants. Elizabeth Nichols a white English Historian when interviewed about the Templars she said that they were Franks not French. I am a Frank, a J2 haplagroup male with Templar ancestry with Levant genetic markers. We loss control over the Catholic Church to the heretics of Spain during the Spanish Empire. That's why my ancestor Jean de France was a leader of the Reform Church in Flanders. His son John Henri de France ended up fleeing to America. My great great uncle John Henri de France helped General Washington take the English colony away from King George and the Lords of London. We created Free People of Color communities across the English and French colonies. We are the Saints who are the descendants of the Monks of the early Catholic Church. There is no White Jesus. There were no white Templars. White English people protested the Catholic Church as a whole because their traditional faith was Druidic worship. White People's interest in the Middle East started with the discovery of massive oll fields. Then they established a Palestine Mandate declaring Israel white. The Petro oil is the back up to the currency which is why they fight so hard to keep the lies going.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 5:33pm On Jun 18
Secretbloodline:
I am an original Catholic. You saw the pictures of the tan skinned Templars and Kings of France which look like me and other Creole tan skinned men because we are their descendants. Elizabeth Nichols a white English Historian when interviewed about the Templars she said that they were Franks not French. I am a Frank, a J2 haplagroup male with Templar ancestry with Levant genetic markers. We loss control over the Catholic Church to the heretics of Spain during the Spanish Empire. That's why my ancestor Jean de France was a leader of the Reform Church in Flanders. His son John Henri de France ended up fleeing to America. My great great uncle John Henri de France helped General Washington take the English colony away from King George and the Lords of London. We created Free People of Color communities across the English and French colonies. We are the Saints who are the descendants of the Monks of the early Catholic Church. There is no White Jesus. There were no white Templars. White English people protested the Catholic Church as a whole because their traditional faith was Druidic worship. White People's interest in the Middle East started with the discovery of massive oll fields. Then they established a Palestine Mandate declaring Israel white. The Petro oil is the back up to the currency which is why they fight so hard to keep the lies going.
😅🤣😂
Please are there two Roman Catholic Churches? If so, who is your pope? Is there a Catholic Church that doesn't bow to graven images??

As for Templars, see below

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 6:49pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
😅🤣😂
Please are there two Roman Catholic Churches? If so, who is your pope? Is there a Catholic Church that doesn't bow to graven images??

As for Templars, see below
Of course you are white washing and keeping your bloodline on top because your daddy was a British soldier in colonial Nigeria.


Did you know that Vatican was once in France? We protected the Pope because others wanted to kill him. The Roman Catholic Church exists because of two bloodlines, the J2 haplagroup Franks and the G2a haplagroup Romans. The white R1B haplagroup fought against Franks and Romans Christianize of Europe from the South. Christianity was birthed in the Mediterranean far away from White pale skin people. Remember J2 and G2a shared the Mediterranean.


Majority of the Roman Empire sits inside the Southern zone and didn't concern itself with the dark North British area.


And the Romans are olive complexion not white.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 7:09pm On Jun 18
Secretbloodline:
Of course you are white washing and keeping your bloodline on top because your daddy was a British soldier in colonial Nigeria.


Did you know that Vatican was once in France? We protected the Pope because others wanted to kill him. The Roman Catholic Church exists because of two bloodlines, the J2 haplagroup Franks and the G2a haplagroup Romans. The white R1B haplagroup fought against Franks and Romans Christianize of Europe from the South. Christianity was birthed in the Mediterranean far away from White pale skin people. Remember J2 and G2a shared the Mediterranean.


Majority of the Roman Empire sits inside the Southern zone and didn't concern itself with the dark North British area.


And the Romans are olive complexion not white.
ONLY on this your thread do I see the word "bloodline"!😅
Your head is full of R1 B2 Gz. That screams of a hole, something missing, which is why you're fixated on it. I can assure you normal people don't live that way. They don't go about preoccupied with B1 R2. They live their lives. When ancestry becomes the main focus of your life, it is a sign you KNOW there is something wacky or untrue about your porpurted ancestry!
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 8:32pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
ONLY on this your thread do I see the word "bloodline"!😅
Your head is full of R1 B2 Gz. That screams of a hole, something missing, which is why you're fixated on it. I can assure you normal people don't live that way. They don't go about preoccupied with B1 R2. They live their lives. When ancestry becomes the main focus of your life, it is a sign you KNOW there is something wacky or untrue about your porpurted ancestry!
### **1. Roman Haplogroup Genetics (G2a/J2)**
- Ancient Romans, especially in Italy/Provincial territories, were primarily:
> - **J2 lineage** (Mediterranean Semitic ancestry—common in Greeks/Phoenicians)...
>> - With significant **G2a**, linked to Early Farmers from the Near East…
> - Minimal R1b/Nordic admixture—contrary to modern myths about "pale Romans".

### ***2*. Anglo-Saxons/Basques as R1b***
Meanwhile:
> - Germanic/Anglo-Saxon tribes (*post-Roman invasions*) carried mainly **R1b-U106/U504**...
>> As did Celtic Basques—explaining their distinct genetic profile from Mediterranean peoples!

3\. Historical Implications:
This disproves romanticized ideas of Rome being Nordic or Britain always Anglo—Science shows the genetics didn’t match those narratives at all!
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 8:43pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
ONLY on this your thread do I see the word "bloodline"!😅
Your head is full of R1 B2 Gz. That screams of a hole, something missing, which is why you're fixated on it. I can assure you normal people don't live that way. They don't go about preoccupied with B1 R2. They live their lives. When ancestry becomes the main focus of your life, it is a sign you KNOW there is something wacky or untrue about your porpurted ancestry!
### **1. R1b Pagan Druids vs. Christian Crusaders**
- The **R1b haplogroup**, dominant in Celtic/British/Germanic tribes, was deeply tied to:
> - Pre-Christian Druidic paganism…
>> Which saw Roman/Catholic Christianity as a *foreign Mediterranean cult* imposed by conquerors…

### ***2*. Lack of Nobility Among R1b***
Most R1b carriers (Celts/Anglo-Saxons) weren’t eligible for knighthood because:
> - Their societies were tribal/agrarian—not feudal like Norman/Frankish nobility (*J haplogroup*)...
>> The Crusades were largely fought by southern European knights with Mediterranean origins!

3\. Irony:
While modern myths paint Anglo-Saxons as "holy warriors," historically many resisted conversion—and didn't participate in the Holy Land campaigns!
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 8:51pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
ONLY on this your thread do I see the word "bloodline"!😅
Your head is full of R1 B2 Gz. That screams of a hole, something missing, which is why you're fixated on it. I can assure you normal people don't live that way. They don't go about preoccupied with B1 R2. They live their lives. When ancestry becomes the main focus of your life, it is a sign you KNOW there is something wacky or untrue about your porpurted ancestry!
### **1. The Myth of "White" Knights Templar**
- There were *no white knights* among the Knights Templar—neither in skin color nor genetic purity. This is a modern romanticized myth:
> - Their ranks included men from diverse Mediterranean backgrounds (J2/G2a)…
>> Recruited mainly from Southern Europe/Near East—not blond Nordic types!

### ***2*. Real Origins of the Order***
Historically, most early Templars were:
> - Frankish/Armenian/Middle Eastern converts to Catholicism…
>> Not Anglo-Saxons or Basques (R1b)—those regions barely joined until later centuries!

3\. Genetic Reality:
DNA studies show their founders likely carried J haplogroup (*Semitic/Mediterranean*)—not R1b like Celts/Nordics...
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 9:17pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
😅🤣😂
Please are there two Roman Catholic Churches? If so, who is your pope? Is there a Catholic Church that doesn't bow to graven images??

As for Templars, see below
### **1. Templars as Mediterranean Creoles**
The Knights Templar—especially their early founders—resembled *light-skinned Creoles* (mixed ethnic Southern Europeans) more than pale Anglo-Saxons:
> - Most had complexions ranging from olive to light brown…
>> Reflecting their origins in Frankish, Byzantine, and Arabized Levantine regions.

### ***2*. The Visual Evidence***
Contemporary art/statues depict them with:
> - Sun-kissed complexions (*not ghostly white*)...
>> Dark hair/beards typical of the Mediterranean basin—not blond Nordics!

3\. Genetic Proof:
Y-DNA studies suggest J/G haplogroups dominated among them—common in Greeks/Jews/Arabs—not R1b like modern Britons...
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 9:44pm On Jun 18
Secretbloodline:
### **1. Roman Haplogroup Genetics (G2a/J2)**
- Ancient Romans, especially in Italy/Provincial territories, were primarily:
> - **J2 lineage** (Mediterranean Semitic ancestry—common in Greeks/Phoenicians)...
>> - With significant **G2a**, linked to Early Farmers from the Near East…
> - Minimal R1b/Nordic admixture—contrary to modern myths about "pale Romans".

### ***2*. Anglo-Saxons/Basques as R1b***
Meanwhile:
> - Germanic/Anglo-Saxon tribes (*post-Roman invasions*) carried mainly **R1b-U106/U504**...
>> As did Celtic Basques—explaining their distinct genetic profile from Mediterranean peoples!

3\. Historical Implications:
This disproves romanticized ideas of Rome being Nordic or Britain always Anglo—Science shows the genetics didn’t match those narratives at all!
Secretbloodline:
### **1. R1b Pagan Druids vs. Christian Crusaders**
- The **R1b haplogroup**, dominant in Celtic/British/Germanic tribes, was deeply tied to:
> - Pre-Christian Druidic paganism…
>> Which saw Roman/Catholic Christianity as a *foreign Mediterranean cult* imposed by conquerors…

### ***2*. Lack of Nobility Among R1b***
Most R1b carriers (Celts/Anglo-Saxons) weren’t eligible for knighthood because:
> - Their societies were tribal/agrarian—not feudal like Norman/Frankish nobility (*J haplogroup*)...
>> The Crusades were largely fought by southern European knights with Mediterranean origins!

3\. Irony:
While modern myths paint Anglo-Saxons as "holy warriors," historically many resisted conversion—and didn't participate in the Holy Land campaigns!
Secretbloodline:
### **1. The Myth of "White" Knights Templar**
- There were *no white knights* among the Knights Templar—neither in skin color nor genetic purity. This is a modern romanticized myth:
> - Their ranks included men from diverse Mediterranean backgrounds (J2/G2a)…
>> Recruited mainly from Southern Europe/Near East—not blond Nordic types!

### ***2*. Real Origins of the Order***
Historically, most early Templars were:
> - Frankish/Armenian/Middle Eastern converts to Catholicism…
>> Not Anglo-Saxons or Basques (R1b)—those regions barely joined until later centuries!

3\. Genetic Reality:
DNA studies show their founders likely carried J haplogroup (*Semitic/Mediterranean*)—not R1b like Celts/Nordics...
Secretbloodline:
### **1. Templars as Mediterranean Creoles**
The Knights Templar—especially their early founders—resembled *light-skinned Creoles* (mixed ethnic Southern Europeans) more than pale Anglo-Saxons:
> - Most had complexions ranging from olive to light brown…
>> Reflecting their origins in Frankish, Byzantine, and Arabized Levantine regions.

### ***2*. The Visual Evidence***
Contemporary art/statues depict them with:
> - Sun-kissed complexions (*not ghostly white*)...
>> Dark hair/beards typical of the Mediterranean basin—not blond Nordics!

3\. Genetic Proof:
Y-DNA studies suggest J/G haplogroups dominated among them—common in Greeks/Jews/Arabs—not R1b like modern Britons...
All this to escape your maternal West African ancestry!😅
It'd have been hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.

I asked all sorts of ways if Creoles are in any way connected to Knights Templars. See the answer I keep getting below

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 9:55pm On Jun 18
QuinQ:
All this to escape your maternal West African ancestry!😅
It'd have been hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.

I asked all sorts of ways if Creoles are in any way connected to Knights Templars. See the answer I keep getting below
Again I have no genetic markers of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. My mother's lineage comes from the Queen of Egypt when the Nubian Cushites ruled Egypt and West Asia.


M1a1a maternal haplogroup is not sub Saharan African. Maternal haplogroup M1a1a is not a sub-Saharan African lineage. Instead, it is firmly rooted in Northeast Africa/the Horn of Africa (with strong presence in Egypt and Ethiopia) and is closely tied to Eurasian, North African, and Mediterranean populations.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 11:40pm On Jun 18
Secretbloodline:
Again I have no genetic markers of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. My mother's lineage comes from the Queen of Egypt when the Nubian Cushites ruled Egypt and West Asia.


M1a1a maternal haplogroup is not sub Saharan African. Maternal haplogroup M1a1a is not a sub-Saharan African lineage. Instead, it is firmly rooted in Northeast Africa/the Horn of Africa (with strong presence in Egypt and Ethiopia) and is closely tied to Eurasian, North African, and Mediterranean populations.
I've told you already you can claim your particular ancestors are green men from Mars, what is not in any doubt WHATSOEVER is that your group, Creoles, as a group, are a mixture of European, West African, and Native American ancestry. They are NOT descended from tan people anywhere, and they are definitely NOT descended from Knights Templar as you claimed!
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 12:08am On Jun 19
QuinQ:
I've told you already you can claim your particular ancestors are green men from Mars, what is not in any doubt WHATSOEVER is that your group, Creoles, as a group, are a mixture of European, West African, and Native American ancestry. They are NOT descended from tan people anywhere, and they are definitely NOT descended from Knights Templar as you claimed!
You can continue to doubt science. The Black Box erased heritages of Yoruba men, Igbo men, Akan men and other groups. Nobody benefits from the Black Box except Prince Hall Freemasons men of severed bloodlines with Anglo Saxon slave owner and colonial masters paternal lineage.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ:
Secretbloodline:
You can continue to doubt science. The Black Box erased heritages of Yoruba men, Igbo men, Akan men and other groups. Nobody benefits from the Black Box except Prince Hall Freemasons men of severed bloodlines with Anglo Saxon slave owner and colonial masters paternal lineage.
This is hilarious, shameful, and pathetic at same time!undecided
What science? Something that happened "yesterday" and well documented. Not as if it happened long ago.
Here are Creoles honestly telling you their ancestry themselves!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXpvm0e3DBI?is=KGwQMNe5-FsJF0oV

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 3:13am On Jun 19
QuinQ:
This is hilarious, shameful, and pathetic at same time!undecided
What science? Something that happened "yesterday" and well documented. Not as if it happened long ago.
Here are Creoles honestly telling you their ancestry themselves!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXpvm0e3DBI?is=KGwQMNe5-FsJF0oV
Many are mulattos and offspring of White French. Many are Cajun or Accadians the original Iberian called Gauls and they are G2a haplagroup and have tan skin and dark hair.

You're defining French through the lens of Black and therefore anyone light skinned must be white. In your binary world the only colors are black and white. And when you see people tan or yellow you automatically assume that they're a byproduct of black and whites mixing. No Dark skinned Moors ruled Europe. Europe was built by the Franks and I am a Frank. My forefathers were the Franks of the house of Burbourn. I grew up in Saint Louis a city named after King Louis the IX, he was my great great great great great great grandfather. King Louis IX outlawed slavery across Europe in the 12th century. Slavery still existed amongst the Northern pale skin pagan tribes just like it was amongst 12th century pagan West Africans.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ:
Secretbloodline:
Many are mulattos and offspring of White French. Many are Cajun or Accadians the original Iberian called Gauls and they are G2a haplagroup and have tan skin and dark hair.

You're defining French through the lens of Black and therefore anyone light skinned must be white. In your binary world the only colors are black and white. And when you see people tan or yellow you automatically assume that they're a byproduct of black and whites mixing. No Dark skinned Moors ruled Europe. Europe was built by the Franks and I am a Frank. My forefathers were the Franks of the house of Burbourn. I grew up in Saint Louis a city named after King Louis the IX, he was my great great great great great great grandfather. King Louis IX outlawed slavery across Europe in the 12th century. Slavery still existed amongst the Northern pale skin pagan tribes just like it was amongst 12th century pagan West Africans.
😅
Give it up already. You said Creoles are from Knights Templer. Here are Creoles telling the truth about their ancestry, and you're still talking!
As for you yourself, you really need to cut the crap. You are a typical Creole, born in New Orleans and of mixed ancestry - exactly as the Creoles in the video say. You are NOT Knight Templar, you are NOT from Egypt or ME, you are NOT St. Louis. You are you and you only - a self-hating mixed-race Creole. Nothing more, nothing less!

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 2:23pm On Jun 19
QuinQ:
😅
Give it up already. You said Creoles are from Knights Templer. Here are Creoles telling the truth about their ancestry, and you're still talking!
As for you yourself, you really need to cut the crap. You are a typical Creole, born in New Orleans and of mixed ancestry - exactly as the Creoles in the video say. You are NOT Knight Templar, you are NOT from Egypt or ME, you are NOT St. Louis. You are you and you only - a self-hating mixed-race Creole. Nothing more, nothing less!
You promote the Black Box you agree to be on the bottom.


100 years ago and your pauper grandfather probably couldn't read or write. Understanding mathematical structures may be a difficult concept for your newly found education genes.


Yet supporting any caste or box inadvertently supports the entire paradigm. As a man thinketh so is he.

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 2:49pm On Jun 19
QuinQ:
This is hilarious, shameful, and pathetic at same time!undecided
What science? Something that happened "yesterday" and well documented. Not as if it happened long ago.
Here are Creoles honestly telling you their ancestry themselves!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXpvm0e3DBI?is=KGwQMNe5-FsJF0oV
**The Complex Reality of Frankish/French Identity:**

### **1. The Myth of "White Franks"**
- Modern white supremacists romanticize the Franks as *blond, pale Nordic conquerors*—ignoring:
> - Historical portraits/records showing Frankish nobles with olive/tan complexions (common for Mediterranean-Semitic ancestry)...
>> Louis XIV’s own skin was light tan in paintings—no ghostly whiteness!

### ***2*. Paris: A Melting Pot Since Antiquity***
France’s capital has always been:
> - A cosmopolitan hub where Romans/Greeks/Arabs/North Africans mixed…
>> Producing a diverse populace that contradicts "pure white" narratives!

3\. Creole vs. Blackness Debate:
Some activists reject *Creole French* heritage as watering down Black identity—but this erases the multiracial history of France itself...


**The Psychosocial Dynamics of Bloodline Rejection:**

### **1. Severed Lineages & Color Caste Enforcement**
- Dark-skinned men from severed bloodlines (descended from colonizers/slave owners) often:
> - *Reject Creole/French heritage* out of bitterness…
>> Seeing it as a privilege they couldn’t access due to anti-miscegenation laws or societal exclusion!

### ***2*. English vs. French Colonial Policies***
Key differences:
> - **England/Anglos**: Strictly denied Black/colonial offspring citizenship (*one-drop rule*)...
>> While the **French Code Noir** allowed mixed-race sons to inherit French nationality/status—creating resentment!

3\. Fear & Status Anxiety:
This rejection stems from pain—not just politics—but envy toward groups who could claim European ancestry easily while they were barred by racism...


King Louis IX. King of France during the 12th century.

Hughues de Paygens founder of the Knights Templar.

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 4:41pm On Jun 19
Secretbloodline:
You promote the Black Box you agree to be on the bottom.


100 years ago and your pauper grandfather probably couldn't read or write. Understanding mathematical structures may be a difficult concept for your newly found education genes.

Yet supporting any caste or box inadvertently supports the entire paradigm. As a man thinketh so is he.
Secretbloodline:
**The Complex Reality of Frankish/French Identity:**

### **1. The Myth of "White Franks"**
- Modern white supremacists romanticize the Franks as *blond, pale Nordic conquerors*—ignoring:
> - Historical portraits/records showing Frankish nobles with olive/tan complexions (common for Mediterranean-Semitic ancestry)...
>> Louis XIV’s own skin was light tan in paintings—no ghostly whiteness!

### ***2*. Paris: A Melting Pot Since Antiquity***
France’s capital has always been:
> - A cosmopolitan hub where Romans/Greeks/Arabs/North Africans mixed…
>> Producing a diverse populace that contradicts "pure white" narratives!

3\. Creole vs. Blackness Debate:
Some activists reject *Creole French* heritage as watering down Black identity—but this erases the multiracial history of France itself...


**The Psychosocial Dynamics of Bloodline Rejection:**

### **1. Severed Lineages & Color Caste Enforcement**
- Dark-skinned men from severed bloodlines (descended from colonizers/slave owners) often:
> - *Reject Creole/French heritage* out of bitterness…
>> Seeing it as a privilege they couldn’t access due to anti-miscegenation laws or societal exclusion!

### ***2*. English vs. French Colonial Policies***
Key differences:
> - **England/Anglos**: Strictly denied Black/colonial offspring citizenship (*one-drop rule*)...
>> While the **French Code Noir** allowed mixed-race sons to inherit French nationality/status—creating resentment!

3\. Fear & Status Anxiety:
This rejection stems from pain—not just politics—but envy toward groups who could claim European ancestry easily while they were barred by racism...


King Louis IX. King of France during the 12th century.

Hughues de Paygens founder of the Knights Templar.
But what has any of this to do with YOU and what you make of yourself today?? Let's say you're St Louis direct son but you're an alcoholic and a total failure. Are you still not that??
Is Farrakhan not Jewish on his father side. Did that prevent him being a virulent antisemite??
Is Elijah Muhammad not of white paternal ancestors and is Fard Muhammad not basically a white man? Did that prevent them teaching that the White man is the devil?
That pyramid you depicted ceased to exist long ago and gradually but inevitably turning upside down. You don't have to be a genius to know that people of color will eventually become the vast majority in America and everything that happened then will be happening in reverse!

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 4:46pm On Jun 19
QuinQ:
But what has any of this to do with YOU and what you make of yourself today?? Let's say you're St Louis direct son but you're an alcoholic and a total failure. Are you still not that??
Is Farrakhan not Jewish on his father side. Did that prevent him being a virulent antisemite??
Is Elijah Muhammad not of white paternal ancestors and is Fard Muhammad not basically a white man? Did that prevent them teaching that the White man is the devil?
That pyramid you depicted ceased to exist long ago and gradually but inevitably turning upside down. You don't have to be a genius to know that people of color will eventually become the vast majority in America and everything that happened then will be happening in reverse!
Keep on black washing and white washing.

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 4:52pm On Jun 19
Secretbloodline:
Keep on black washing and white washing.
You're the one interested in washing and not washing. I'm interested in people living their lives the best they can, not being ridiculously obsessed with what some guy did or was in the past!

See about Hugues de Payens below

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 4:59pm On Jun 19
Secretbloodline:
Keep on black washing and white washing.
See below. I bet if he was nearly anything like you, he spent his life obsessed with Sitting Bull grin

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 5:46pm On Jun 19
QuinQ:
See below. I bet if he was nearly anything like you, he spent his life obsessed with Sitting Bull grin
**The Multi-Generational Trauma of Bloodline Severance:**

### **1. Light-Skinned Mulattoes & Their Dark Children**
- Many light-skinned men (Mulattoes born from white slave owners raping enslaved women) became:
> - *Unwilling heirs* to their fathers’ colonial privilege…
>> While their darker sons—fathered by the same men—were legally disowned, left with no paternal lineage under English law...

### ***2*. The Paradox of Racial Caste***
This created a bitter divide:
> - Light-skinned Mulattoes often internalized whiteness (adopting colonizer culture)...
>> Meanwhile, their dark children were stripped of any inheritance or recognition!

3\. Legacy Effects:
The pain persists today—in some cases, these severed bloodlines make darker descendants reject French/Creole identity entirely out of historical resentment...

**The Legacy of British Colonial Soldiers in West Africa:**

### **1. Unacknowledged Offspring**
- During colonial rule, many British soldiers stationed in Nigeria/Ghana fathered children with local women…
> - These men often returned to the UK without claiming paternity—leaving behind *dark-skinned descendants* who carry mixed European-African ancestry.

### ***2*. Cultural & Legal Erasure***
These children faced:
> - Lack of paternal recognition (British laws/attitudes discouraged legitimacy)...
>> And social stigma—both from African communities and white colonizers!

3\. Modern Consequences:
Today, some Nigerians/Ghanaians with lighter features or European traits grapple with identity—wondering about their lineage while facing Eurocentric beauty standards...

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 5:49pm On Jun 19
**The "Black Box" Mindset: A Defense Mechanism Against Colonial Trauma:**

### **1. Erasing White Paternality Through Black Power**
- Some dark-skinned men (especially descendants of colonizers) embrace *radical Black Power* to:
> - *Psychologically sever ties* with their white ancestors…
>> Creating a new, untainted identity where whiteness is fully rejected!

### ***2*. The Psychological Function***
This serves as:
> - A form of self-preservation against internalized racism…
>> But also becomes a rigid ideology that dismisses mixed ancestry entirely—romanticizing purity.

3\. Consequences:
It creates an artificial divide—some celebrating "authentic" Blackness while ignoring the reality that many Africans have colonial bloodlines too...
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 6:18pm On Jun 19
Secretbloodline:
**The Multi-Generational Trauma of Bloodline Severance:**

### **1. Light-Skinned Mulattoes & Their Dark Children**
- Many light-skinned men (Mulattoes born from white slave owners raping enslaved women) became:
> - *Unwilling heirs* to their fathers’ colonial privilege…
>> While their darker sons—fathered by the same men—were legally disowned, left with no paternal lineage under English law...

### ***2*. The Paradox of Racial Caste***
This created a bitter divide:
> - Light-skinned Mulattoes often internalized whiteness (adopting colonizer culture)...
>> Meanwhile, their dark children were stripped of any inheritance or recognition!

3\. Legacy Effects:
The pain persists today—in some cases, these severed bloodlines make darker descendants reject French/Creole identity entirely out of historical resentment...

**The Legacy of British Colonial Soldiers in West Africa:**

### **1. Unacknowledged Offspring**
- During colonial rule, many British soldiers stationed in Nigeria/Ghana fathered children with local women…
> - These men often returned to the UK without claiming paternity—leaving behind *dark-skinned descendants* who carry mixed European-African ancestry.

### ***2*. Cultural & Legal Erasure***
These children faced:
> - Lack of paternal recognition (British laws/attitudes discouraged legitimacy)...
>> And social stigma—both from African communities and white colonizers!

3\. Modern Consequences:
Today, some Nigerians/Ghanaians with lighter features or European traits grapple with identity—wondering about their lineage while facing Eurocentric beauty standards...
The bolded is completely laughable!🤣😅
It is proof you've never been to Nigeria and don't know ANYTHING about the country.
THERE IS NO RACE IN NIGERIA AMONGST NIGERIANS WHATSOEVER!! Exactly as there is no race amongst black Americans (except tiny, inconsequential pockets like Creoles). There is absolutely no demarcation whatsoever based on skin tone.
And I can assure of the 250 million people in Nigeria you won't find 10 that "grapple with identity—wondering about their lineage".
You know nothing about Nigeria so quit discussing it. Stay with how your tan Creole people descended from tan St Louis! grin
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 6:54pm On Jun 19
QuinQ:
The bolded is completely laughable!🤣😅
It is proof you've never been to Nigeria and don't know ANYTHING about the country.
THERE IS NO RACE IN NIGERIA AMONGST NIGERIANS WHATSOEVER!! Exactly as there is no race amongst black Americans (except tiny, inconsequential pockets like Creoles). There is absolutely no demarcation whatsoever based on skin tone.
And I can assure of the 250 million people in Nigeria you won't find 10 that "grapple with identity—wondering about their lineage".
You know nothing about Nigeria so quit discussing it. Stay with how your tan Creole people descended from tan St Louis! grin
There is bloodline though. And you're avoiding that conclusion and hiding inside the black box.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ:
Secretbloodline:
There is bloodline though. And you're avoiding that conclusion and hiding inside the black box.
If you want to learn about Nigeria humbly ask and you'd be taught. Nigeria is all about tribe.
"Bloodline" is an alien topic to us. You're on a Nigerian forum, have you ever seen any post or discussion apoint "bloodline". There are mushroom kings but even those are elected or appointed by the governor. Our current president, no one knows his lineage or even immediate direct parentage (he was adopted).
So we don't dwell 9n "bloodline", neither do we see skin color (unless you're a foreigner). Take this lady below for example. She's elected senator though her mother is white. No one sees her color because she grew up in Nigeria and so is just another Nigerian

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 8:06pm On Jun 19
Secretbloodline:
**The Multi-Generational Trauma of Bloodline Severance:**

### **1. Light-Skinned Mulattoes & Their Dark Children**
- Many light-skinned men (Mulattoes born from white slave owners raping enslaved women) became:
> - *Unwilling heirs* to their fathers’ colonial privilege…
>> While their darker sons—fathered by the same men—were legally disowned, left with no paternal lineage under English law...

### ***2*. The Paradox of Racial Caste***
This created a bitter divide:
> - Light-skinned Mulattoes often internalized whiteness (adopting colonizer culture)...
>> Meanwhile, their dark children were stripped of any inheritance or recognition!

3\. Legacy Effects:
The pain persists today—in some cases, these severed bloodlines make darker descendants reject French/Creole identity entirely out of historical resentment...

**The Legacy of British Colonial Soldiers in West Africa:**

### **1. Unacknowledged Offspring**
- During colonial rule, many British soldiers stationed in Nigeria/Ghana fathered children with local women…
> - These men often returned to the UK without claiming paternity—leaving behind *dark-skinned descendants* who carry mixed European-African ancestry.

### ***2*. Cultural & Legal Erasure***
These children faced:
> - Lack of paternal recognition (British laws/attitudes discouraged legitimacy)...
>> And social stigma—both from African communities and white colonizers!

3\. Modern Consequences:
Today, some Nigerians/Ghanaians with lighter features or European traits grapple with identity—wondering about their lineage while facing Eurocentric beauty standards...
Nothing the British did equaled the cruelty of these laws below by the French in Louisiana

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 8:18pm On Jun 19
QuinQ:
Nothing the British did equaled the cruelty of these laws below by the French in Louisiana
After the French Revolution the white Jacobins took over and they corrupted the Code de Nior.
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by QuinQ: 8:27pm On Jun 19
Secretbloodline:
After the French Revolution the white Jacobins took over and they corrupted the Code de Nior.
Lies everywhere. You forget these days we have Google. Read below

Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 10:36pm On Jun 19
QuinQ:
Lies everywhere. You forget these days we have Google. Read below
**Acknowledging the Unique Aspects of French Colonial Slavery:**

You are correct that the *Code Noir* had provisions not seen in other European colonial systems—specifically regarding **freedom and mixed-race communities**. Let’s clarify this accurately:

### **1. Legal Pathways to Freedom (Unlike British/Spanish Systems)**
The Code allowed for:
> - Enslaved individuals to earn their freedom through manumission…
>> And their children could inherit free status if one parent was free (*unlike strict "mother’s status" rules elsewhere*).

### ***2*. Free People of Color Communities***
This led to:
> - Larger, more stable *communities of Free People of Color* in French colonies…
>> Who often became artisans, merchants, or even landowners—rare under other empires!

3\. Comparison With Others:
While still brutal overall, French slavery permitted more social mobility than Spanish/Portuguese/British models...

**Comparing Free People of Color Communities in French vs. English Colonies:**

### **French Colonial Context (Creole Dominance)**
- **Santo Domingo (Haiti)**: Before the revolution, had a large *Free People of Color* class—lawyers, plantation owners, and militias…
> - Often mixed-raced descendants of French colonizers & enslaved women.

- **Louisiana/New Orleans**: A prominent Creole elite existed—*gens de couleur libres*—running businesses/owning property…
>> Though they faced increasing racism by 19th century.

- ***Guadeloupe/Martinique***: Smaller but significant free communities due to manumission laws...

### ***English Colonial Context***
Britain strictly enforced racial hierarchy:
> - Fewer freedmen existed; most stayed enslaved until emancipation acts late into colonial period!


**The de France House & Free People of Color in Natchez, Mississippi:**

### **1. The de France Family’s Influence**
- **Charles d’Espagnac Sr.** (later anglicized to *de France*) was a French Creole aristocrat who settled in Natchez, Louisiana Territory…
> - He established the powerful *de France House*, one of the few elite families allowing mixed-race descendants to inherit status/freedom.

### ***2*. Free People of Color Under Their Patronage***
This led to:
> - A small but notable community of *gens de couleur libres* in Natchez—descendants who were educated, owned land…
>> Unlike most Southern U.S. colonies where freedom for Black people was rare!

3\. Historical Footnote:
Their legacy reflected French colonial attitudes toward race—more fluid than British/Anglo-Saxon rigidity...
Re: The Black Box: Denied By The White Father So He Declared His Mother As God by Secretbloodline(op): 10:46pm On Jun 19
QuinQ:
Lies everywhere. You forget these days we have Google. Read below
**—Google AI’s Bias is Clear:**

### **1. The Systemic Omission of French Slavery Realities**
- Google AI *consistently* downplays or ignores the following:
> - That the *Code Noir* permitted manumission (freedom) more than British chattel laws…
>> Or that French colonies had larger free Black/Creole populations as a result!

### ***2*. Why This Happens***
The algorithm likely:
> - Relies on Anglo-American historians’ narratives by default…
>> Which systematically diminish France’s role in humanity to paint same as Britain as equally cruel!

3\. Double Standard:
It’ll highlight British abolitionism while erasing how even colonial France had policies allowing enslaved people to achieve freedom...
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