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CaptainZubi:
Anyone with good inveter for sale?

Budget is not more than 150k.

Whatsapp on 0812 476 9437

Could have been more helpful if you had stated the capacity of inverter e.g 5kva, 2kva, 3.5kva, etc. Also if you want hybrid or not; transformerLess or not, etc.

You didn't even include location.

jFrankNorfleet:
What of a strong stabilizer?

One thing I have often suggested is, while shopping for inverters, especially when you intends using NEPA / Generator coupled with it's internal charger to recharge batteries, is to research to know it's input voltage range e.g something of 95-220v means so long the output of your NEPA / Generator's voltage is between 95v to 220v, the system would work comfortably.

it's little details such as this that makes lots of big difference. unfortunately, majority would focus and obsess over fancy things.

Same even applies to Stablizers hence reason there are stablizers that struggles with just a little low NEPA

bassdow:
if only you guys actively go through previous pages, you go don hear ma numerous inputs on these 2 brands. meanWhile they are same

thank you Chief, you can help me with the pages, what of this model? lvtopsun or luminous or which hybrid 24V inverter will you recommend 3KVA or 3.5kva with like 100A or 120A MPPT charger

fuckboys:
he definitely has a problem, you people should stop typing rubbish with the frog knowledge that you have.

I still stand to be corrected that the best panels for me are 400-500w panels.

These are 4pcs of 400w panels at 11am.

If for 4pcs can do this, I'm sure as hell 6pcs will hit 2kw and above.

So stop saying rubbish that his setup doesn't have an issue.

This is flat roof, what's your location and panel brand?

bassdow:
if buying any brand new solar panel, kindly ensure they're at least 620w especially if buying from the Tier 1 brands.

Normally I suggest used solar panels but lately, the prices no longer encouraging when compared to brand new ones.

Another is, Are you sure the solar panels are the issue ?

How did you do your testing to comclude it's not generating up to 700w ? Don't forget charge controllers / hybrid inverters generally only display what they collecting, not what the solar panels are generating.

Have always advocated for halfCut cells BUT that also doesn't mean the non halfCut cells are useLess. Don't be quick to spend money.

tell us your inverter and if it's hybrid, share with us it's sticker, also the external charge controller's sticker if that's what you using. Also type of battery and it's voltage and capacity. Let's not question state of the solar panels yet.

You have always been an advocate for low wattage panel 350w - 450w max, what has changed?

Whatever you need to know, always ask till someone with the knowledge answers you , this will help to eliminate losses from your end.

I understand that questions answered before will be asked again even if it's been answered on that same page, it won't stop and it will keep happening coz a lot do not know anything about solar set ups and they will keep coming to ask so they learn and know.
We just need to be patient while helping to respond to those asking these questions so they don't make mistakes coz if they knew the answers, they won't be here asking.

God help and bless us all.

Deluxe8000:
Please don't mind him the 3 pages did NOT answer the question directly. It was about enlightenment on induction cooker. I have been here for a while. I know what I have lost because questions asked were not properly treated and what I have gained when properly treated.

ajabani4allah:
You have always been an advocate for low wattage panel 350w - 450w max, what has changed?

I’m surprised too because he has always been an advocate of low wattage panels because like he do say, it is usually easy for installers and it doesn’t take up much space like the high wattage ones and it also isn’t as heavy as those ones

bassdow:
if buying any brand new solar panel, kindly ensure they're at least 620w especially if buying from the Tier 1 brands.

Normally I suggest used solar panels but lately, the prices no longer encouraging when compared to brand new ones.

Another is, Are you sure the solar panels are the issue ?

How did you do your testing to comclude it's not generating up to 700w ? Don't forget charge controllers / hybrid inverters generally only display what they collecting, not what the solar panels are generating.

Have always advocated for halfCut cells BUT that also doesn't mean the non halfCut cells are useLess. Don't be quick to spend money.

tell us your inverter and if it's hybrid, share with us it's sticker, also the external charge controller's sticker if that's what you using. Also type of battery and it's voltage and capacity. Let's not question state of the solar panels yet.

Inverter is itel 4kva hybrid. Battery itel 25.6v. 100ah.

codeME:
please which is good in this Welion or Sunfield hybrid inverter

i think welion is no longer making inverters or they rebranded not sure

twinskenny:
i think welion is no longer making inverters or they rebranded not sure

Hahaha Williion and sms exactly the same Board inside.

iraybuju:
Hahaha Williion and sms exactly the same Board inside.

Most Chinese hybrid inverter brands (especially those based on the Voltronic platform) are essentially identical under the hood, differing only in their external casings and, occasionally, their display interfaces.

This happens because of ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) and OEM(Original Equipment Manufacturer) manufacturing in the inverter industry. Here's why:


While the ODM factory designs AND manufactures products; other companies just rebrand them while the OEM products IP are owned by the brand who designed the inverter. ODM just manufactures the same product for different brands and change casings (in some instance) and name.


Popular OEM in Europe include SMA Solar Technology (German), Victron (Netherlands), Fronius (Austria), Steca (Germany), Schneider Electric (France)

In China we have Huawei Digital Power, Sungrow, Growatt, Deye, Goodwe, Sofar Solar, Solis/Ginlong, MUST Energy

The US have the following: SolarEdge, Enphase Energy, OutBack Power, Magnum Energy


The China-Based ODMs include
Voltronic Power (Taiwan/China) - arguably the world's most prolific inverter ODM. Their Axpert platform is the engine behind an enormous number of global brands including Mecer, Kodak, Axpert, PowMr, Voltacon, Sorotec, and many others


Voltronic Power & MPP Solar: Dominant Taiwanese/Chinese ODMs whose core platforms (e.g., Axpert, PIP) power numerous global and regional brands like Kodak, Mecer, and PowMr.

Deye, Growatt, Sungrow, Solis, & Sofar Solar: Major OEM manufacturers that also heavily utilize ODM arrangements, supplying custom-branded units and internal components to international partners (e.g., Deye powering Sunsynk).

Must Power, Luxpower, EaSun, PowMr, SRNE, & Epever: Key ODMs specializing in specific segments (like 1–5 kVA systems or MPPT controllers), with platforms widely rebranded across emerging markets, particularly Africa.

mctfopt:
Most Chinese hybrid inverter brands (especially those based on the Voltronic platform) are essentially identical under the hood, differing only in their external casings and, occasionally, their display interfaces.

This happens because of ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) and OEM(Original Equipment Manufacturer) manufacturing in the inverter industry. Here's why:


While the ODM factory designs AND manufactures products; other companies just rebrand them while the OEM products IP are owned by the brand who designed the inverter. ODM just manufactures the same product for different brands and change casings (in some instance) and name.


Popular OEM in Europe include SMA Solar Technology (German), Victron (Netherlands), Fronius (Austria), Steca (Germany), Schneider Electric (France)

In China we have Huawei Digital Power, Sungrow, Growatt, Deye, Goodwe, Sofar Solar, Solis/Ginlong, MUST Energy

The US have the following: SolarEdge, Enphase Energy, OutBack Power, Magnum Energy


The China-Based ODMs include
Voltronic Power (Taiwan/China) - arguably the world's most prolific inverter ODM. Their Axpert platform is the engine behind an enormous number of global brands including Mecer, Kodak, Axpert, PowMr, Voltacon, Sorotec, and many others


Voltronic Power & MPP Solar: Dominant Taiwanese/Chinese ODMs whose core platforms (e.g., Axpert, PIP) power numerous global and regional brands like Kodak, Mecer, and PowMr.

Deye, Growatt, Sungrow, Solis, & Sofar Solar: Major OEM manufacturers that also heavily utilize ODM arrangements, supplying custom-branded units and internal components to international partners (e.g., Deye powering Sunsynk).

Must Power, Luxpower, EaSun, PowMr, SRNE, & Epever: Key ODMs specializing in specific segments (like 1–5 kVA systems or MPPT controllers), with platforms widely rebranded across emerging markets, particularly Africa.

Great information bro.

And at the end, it is either the system is above or below 80% efficiency. In most exams, anything from 80% is regarded as A grade. If it gives above 90% in DC or AC i.e cc or inverter respectively, difference may likely be in little hours of extension.

Most of us love "beautiful boxes" and manufacturers already know our weak points.Hence,some of us will choose aesthetics over functionality. Na who get sense dey.....

fuckboys:
you should have gotten them all halfcut, even if they are slightly different watts but same halfcut mono.

halfcut panels always have higher voltages and perform very well with high voltage inverters and MPPT CCs.

I have 4 PCs of 535W halfcut jinko bifacial and I have never gotten up to 1.6kw from them. Could it be because the guy mounted them nearly at the top of the roof which is the most slanted position? The thing don tire me.

Dabss:
I have 4 PCs of 535W halfcut jinko bifacial and I have never gotten up to 1.6kw from them. Could it be because the guy mounted them nearly at the top of the roof which is the most slanted position? The thing don tire me.

535w x 4 is 2.1kw. If you get up to 1.5kw, its still a good output

Ezimuoh:
535w x 4 is 2.1kw. If you get up to 1.5kw, its still a good output

not when others are getting 2kw with similar setup. I feel that a 70 percent yield is too poor considering the fact that it's even bifacial.

Dabss:
not when others are getting 2kw with similar setup. I feel that a 70 percent yield is too poor considering the fact that it's even bifacial.

Solar panel output depends on sooo many factors

Dabss:
not when others are getting 2kw with similar setup. I feel that a 70 percent yield is too poor considering the fact that it's even bifacial.

You won't get anything from the other side when mounted on the roof.

dollarnaira:
Great information bro.

And at the end, it is either the system is above or below 80% efficiency. In most exams, anything from 80% is regarded as A grade. If it gives above 90% in DC or AC i.e cc or inverter respectively, difference may likely be in little hours of extension.

Most of us love "beautiful boxes" and manufacturers already know our weak points.Hence,some of us will choose aesthetics over functionality. Na who get sense dey.....

China has an A1 in aesthetics. They build both beautiful, awesome devices and beautiful BS. The pricing is often an indicator of which one you may be getting.

ajabani4allah:
You have always been an advocate for low wattage panel 350w - 450w max, what has changed?

if buying USEd, then yes the low wattage ones are better because they tend to give more though might cost very little extra BUT if buying brand new, then 500w to max 625w / 630w. I try to avoid anything higher.

ANother is the bi-Facials, except I really have to, I don't buy them because doesn't make much sense buying it and not using it properly. unfortunately, the brand new ones are mostly in that form.

It's halfCut by default except the price is too sweet and I could verify it's not a dubious sweet deal.

So you see, nothing changed.

mctfopt:
China has an A1 in aesthetics. They build both beautiful, awesome devices and beautiful BS. The pricing is often an indicator of which one you may be getting.

unfortunately, lots of people fail to recognize this. meanWhile, your comment could be misLeading to some of us. You for type the BS complete make dem understand what you meant.

dollarnaira:
Great information bro.

And at the end, it is either the system is above or below 80% efficiency. In most exams, anything from 80% is regarded as A grade. If it gives above 90% in DC or AC i.e cc or inverter respectively, difference may likely be in little hours of extension.

Most of us love "beautiful boxes" and manufacturers already know our weak points.Hence,some of us will choose aesthetics over functionality. Na who get sense dey.....

Bros one just stressed the hell out of me. Am sure na Heaven I go dey go very soon.

unfortunately, na you the customer go blame las las like say you go do magic. If we talk much, dem go call me oldSchool simply because I failed to fall for the hypes.

Also people need understand nothing is 100%.

Another is these charge controllers / hubrid inverters mostly tell you what they drawing, not what's harvested.

Fully setup

20kva srne inverter

64kwh Deriy lithium battery

32 no of 620w jinko panels

Supplied and installed by yours truly.

hoover420:
I’m surprised too because he has always been an advocate of low wattage panels because like he do say, it is usually easy for installers and it doesn’t take up much space like the high wattage ones and it also isn’t as heavy as those ones

A lot of times, we just understand what we wanna understand.

I have preference for Low wattage solar panels within range of 350w to 450w only when buying USEd ones BUT if buying them BRAND NEW, then the range is 500w to 630w. I wouldn't even attempt buying 400w brand new sef.

na una dey make person type long sometimes.

What I said haven't changed at all.

If USEd, must be between 350w to 450w; max 500w
if Brand NEW, must be between 500w to 630w

Must always be halfCut whether NEW or USEd.

Hybrid600:
Whatever you need to know, always ask till someone with the knowledge answers you , this will help to eliminate losses from your end.

I understand that questions answered before will be asked again even if it's been answered on that same page, it won't stop and it will keep happening coz a lot do not know anything about solar set ups and they will keep coming to ask so they learn and know.
We just need to be patient while helping to respond to those asking these questions so they don't make mistakes coz if they knew the answers, they won't be here asking.

God help and bless us all.

Actually, I quite understand their plight EXCEPT repeating same responses tend to dilute quality of content of the pages + make it more difficult for those doing research as they need browse through more pages to get fewer content. On quality well moderated forums, asking questions already asked tend to attract penalties.

bassdow:
unfortunately, lots of people fail to recognize this. meanWhile, your comment could be misLeading to some of us. You for type the BS complete make dem understand what you meant.

Lol. Everyone knows what that BS stood for

twinskenny:
Fully setup

20kva srne inverter

64kwh Deriy lithium battery

32 no of 620w jinko panels

Supplied and installed by yours truly.

Nicely done. Love your battery busbar looks like follow come.

bassdow:
A lot of times, we just understand what we wanna understand.

I have preference for Low wattage solar panels within range of 350w to 450w only when buying USEd ones BUT if buying them BRAND NEW, then the range is 500w to 630w. I wouldn't even attempt buying 400w brand new sef.

na una dey make person type long sometimes.

What I said haven't changed at all.

If USEd, must be between 350w to 450w; max 500w
if Brand NEW, must be between 500w to 630w

Must always be halfCut whether NEW or USEd.

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Will two 620w jinko pannels perform better than 3 420 non halfcut panels?. I want to get 3 which I Know would be ok for now, but due to fund am looking at just two for now. If 2 can give me up to 900w to 1000w that will be ok for my 2.5kw battery for now

It all depends on your inverter. What's the min voltage for your hybrid? That's what would determine if it would be OK. Share the spec of your inverter make we see

prince4pro2:
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Will two 620w jinko pannels perform better than 3 420 non halfcut panels?. I want to get 3 which I Know would be ok for now, but due to fund am looking at just two for now. If 2 can give me up to 900w to 1000w that will be ok for my 2.5kw battery for now

mctfopt:
Lol. Everyone knows what that BS stood for

don't be surprised

prince4pro2:
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Will two 620w jinko pannels perform better than 3 420 non halfcut panels?. I want to get 3 which I Know would be ok for now, but due to fund am looking at just two for now. If 2 can give me up to 900w to 1000w that will be ok for my 2.5kw battery for now

Actually, it tends to depend on specific solar panel as bigger doesn't always automatically mean bigger output.

in your situation, if buying the solar panels brand new OR if buying from someOne who bought them brand new not long, then the 620w is more superior. Also should always be halfCut by default.

So yeah, would go for 2pcs of 620w hallfCut solar panels than even 3pcs of even 450w ones.

As usual, on the flip side, I rather stay with quality non halfCut panel than a halfCut panel that's of very very low quality.

Now you need be sure your inverter is compatible enough for the solar panels.

bassdow:
Actually, it tends to depend on specific solar panel as bigger doesn't always automatically mean bigger output.

in your situation, if buying the solar panels brand new OR if buying from someOne who bought them brand new not long, then the 620w is more superior. Also should always be halfCut by default.

So yeah, would go for 2pcs of 620w hallfCut solar panels than even 3pcs of even 450w ones.

As usual, on the flip side, I rather stay with quality non halfCut panel than a halfCut panel that's of very very low quality.

Now you need be sure your inverter is compatible enough for the solar panels.

Inverter spec.

prince4pro2:
Inverter spec.

This inverter would CHEST more than 6pcs of 620w solar panels. Just ensure they are all in series Ooo.

As for this brand of inverter, hopefully you wouldn't be quick to wanna to sell it off in guise of upGrade. Just saying Ooo