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Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by seyicodes(m): 12:06pm On Jun 21
Angels can't turn into devil
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by erad(m): 12:06pm On Jun 21
Send this to Netanyahu...
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by seyicodes(m): 12:07pm On Jun 21
According to the Qur'an and authentic Sunnah, angels cannot turn into devils for several reasons:

1. Angels always obey Allah

Allah says:

> “They do not disobey Allah in what He commands them but do what they are commanded.” (Surah At-Tahrim 66:6)





2. Angels do not have rebellious desires

They were created to worship and obey Allah, unlike humans and jinn who have free choice.



3. Devils are from the jinn, not the angels

Allah says about Iblis:

> “He was of the jinn and departed from the command of his Lord.” (Surah Al-Kahf 18:50)



Therefore, Iblis did not become a devil after being an angel; he was always a jinn.



4. Angels are described as noble and honored servants

Allah says:

> “Rather, they are honored servants.” (Surah Al-Anbiya 21:26)





5. There is no example in the Qur'an or authentic Sunnah of an angel becoming a devil

Every devil is from the jinn or from humans who follow Satan's path, but no angel has ever become a devil.




In summary: Angels cannot become devils because Allah created them to obey Him completely, while devils are from the jinn, a different creation that has the ability to disobey Allah.
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by belikewater: 12:09pm On Jun 21
seunlayi:
You'll understand it better by and by. I am sure it will be too late for you
Ah! Don’t say it would be too late for the guy now. Just pray for him that he Christ may reveal himself to him.
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by belikewater: 12:13pm On Jun 21
If anyone still doubts that Jesus is the only way then you should ask yourself why witches and wizards fear that name? Except you don’t believe there is also evil in this world which means you’re nothing else but pun in the hands of the devil.

You can’t see the wind but you feel its effect all around you same way you might not be able to see into the spiritual world but you can always see its effect around you. If you don’t believe in Jesus you should at least be intrigued in learning more about him based on the effect his name has on evil.
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by SeriouslySense(m): 12:22pm On Jun 21
that name Jesus is the only name that helped me when i use to have nightmares. Also, reports from alien encounters have found that at the mention of Jesus name the alien retreat or stop trying to invade their victims.

belikewater:
If anyone still doubts that Jesus is the only way then you should ask yourself why witches and wizards fear that name? Except you don’t believe there is also evil in this world which means you’re nothing else but pun in the hands of the devil.

You can’t see the wind but you feel its effect all around you same way you might not be able to see into the spiritual world but you can always see its effect around you. If you don’t believe in Jesus you should at least be intrigued in learning more about him based on the effect his name has on evil.
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by kgr8mike(m): 12:24pm On Jun 21
Lucifyre:
They asked you to demonstrate Yhwh created everything, your yapping about the typical "look at the trees", which demonstrates nothing save for incredulity. How can you use an empty claim and assertion as "proof" for another empty claim. It's hilarious. Empty claims galore.
I know you have not lived up to 1000 years. Even at that you were not still here when creation began. So whatever I prove cannot make sense where there is non.
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Ahayalift:
Read Ezekiel 8:6-17 to know that their abandoning AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH and using his temple to worship YHWH=LORD=Baal started long ago. Stubbornness of not returning to the Ancient Landmark that our CREATOR gave Moses on how HE should be worshipped is why JESUS AHAYAHsha warned that the Letter=polluted Bible killeth unless being read with the Help of The Ever Pure SPIRIT of I AM THAT I AM. Jeremiah 23:13 literally says the prophets prophecied by YHWH=Baal Spirit. Jeremiah 23:26-27. Malachi 3:6 says AHAYAH's Name, Laws and Nature never changes, so it is wise to question who slotted the change of HIS Name into the Bible. YHWH substitution started long ago in Old Testament, the Roman only completed it by substituting AHAYAHsha with Jesus. Read Jeremiah 23:26-27, Jeremiah 44:15-21 where they defended their adoption of YHWH bisexual Queen of Heaven Baphomet that still rules the World till today, even though Jeremiah told them AHAYAH left them to Hungry because they keep seeking other gods. I don't usually engage in back and forth but I will answer because of innocent Souls that you want to keep at sub-ignorant Spiritual Level. What is the Right Pronunciation for the Tetragrammaton YHWH?! I will list few of the Names for you: Yahweh, Yahuah/YahooAh, Yahovah, Yehovah, Jehovah, Yahawshai, Yuahwaha, etc. Worldwide, non of all the various confusing Derivatives have been Agreed upon as the perfect Pronunciation for YHWH, I don't know about you and the God that you worship but if you believe the Scripture that you carry, it tells me that my Own GOD is never an Author of such Confusion. HE told all Humanity directly from HIS Own Mouth HIS One and Only Supreme NAME: I AM THAT I AM(AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH) The NAME above all Names as HIS NAME and even seriously warned(because HE knew what Satan would later do) that they should Ensure that their next Generations keep it in memory to use in Calling on HIM and in Praying to HIM, HE said and I quote "AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH, This is My NAME unto all Generations of Humanity." Read Exodus 3:13-15. And you know who Scripture said is the Author or Confusion and enjoys such confusion of his Name(s)? Yes, Satan that vowed that he wanted to sit in Temple of ALMIGHTY I AM THAT I AM, and he already started achieving that right from Old Testament when he started showing the Jewish Scribes why they must abandon AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH and Replace with the Canaanite god YHWH=LORD= Baal=Satan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHXONASXQ8I&pp=ygUqQWhheWFoIGFzaGFyIGFoYXlhaCB3YXMgcmVwbGFjZWQgd2l0aCBZSFdI

ArsenWinner:
YHWH` appears in Hebrew manuscripts 1000+ years before Rome existed, including the Dead Sea Scrolls. “Jesus” comes from Hebrew `Yeshua` → Greek `Iesous` → Latin `Iesus` → English `Jesus`. There’s no linguistic path from `Iesous` to “Zeus”. Translation of names across languages is normal, not corruption.

No historical evidence links Cesare Borgia to the image of Jesus. The European-style Jesus art developed centuries later, mostly in the Renaissance. Churches use it as symbolism, not ID photos. God looks at the heart, not the artwork.

Jeremiah condemns worship of the Queen of Heaven, and the New Testament never commands it. Catholics see Mary as honored, not worshiped as a goddess. Protestants/Pentecostals reject that entirely. So “they still worship her worldwide” overstates it.
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Lucifyre: 12:43pm On Jun 21
kgr8mike:
I know you have not lived up to 1000 years. Even at that you were not still here when creation began. So whatever I prove cannot make sense where there is non.
At least we're in agreement that you make no sense.
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Sixthsense2023: 1:04pm On Jun 21
No worry when your time comes you'll find out... Unfortunately you'll have no one to tell

God, Satan, Jesus Christ,Angels and demons, doesn't exist,

There's no reliable, concretable and approvable evidence of their existence.

Infact the so called heaven doesn't exist,

please don't let anybody deceive you, heaven is just a figment of imagination,
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Nduka172: 1:53pm On Jun 21
I don't usually do this but I'll let you all know this truth
If you know how powerful and superior the creator is you wouldn't assume they fought in heaven where it's been assumed God recides
Characters in the Bible serve a purpose and some are to plant deceitful and derragatory imprints about the supremacy of the creator
(Did you know Abraham attempted muder with his son and the Bible says God was testing him)
If it were your son imagine how he would have felt after that event.
Brandishing the intellectual supremacy of God in derragatory mannerisms
See through the veil
It's all conscience (good=right, morality /bad=evil,sometimes wrong immoral) When bad supercedes they blame the devil
Not all recorded events in the Bible is true about the Supremacy of God.
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Nduka172: 2:02pm On Jun 21
Imagine the Bible said God rested do you believe
Is God a human being that gets tired
Reading the Bible and understanding the supremacy of the Creator is complex
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:05pm On Jun 21
Nothing in the passages you quoted shows it is pride.

Rather, it is DECEIT you showed!!!

Revelation 20:10 (KJV)

[b]And the devil that deceived them[/b]b
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:08pm On Jun 21
Nduka172:
Imagine the Bible said God rested do you believe
Is God a human being that gets tired
Reading the Bible and understanding the supremacy of the Creator is complex
Is it only when you are tired that you rest? And does He not have a Right to Rest?
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:15pm On Jun 21
Nduka172:
I don't usually do this but I'll let you all know this truth
If you know how powerful and superior the creator is you wouldn't assume they fought in heaven where it's been assumed God recides
Characters in the Bible serve a purpose and some are to plant deceitful and derragatory imprints about the supremacy of the creator
(Did you know Abraham attempted muder with his son and the Bible says God was testing him)
If it were your son imagine how he would have felt after that event.
Brandishing the intellectual supremacy of God in derragatory mannerisms
See through the veil
It's all conscience (good=right, morality /bad=evil,sometimes wrong immoral) When bad supercedes they blame the devil
Not all recorded events in the Bible is true about the Supremacy of God.
You are just all over the place.. If a ruler sent someone to deceive others, he won't punish the deceiver. And for Abraham, every reasonable person knows that there is nothing like murder, when tests you with life and death even a child understands that if The Owner demands for his life there is nothing he can do about it. And all of these prove God's supremacy! There is no argument to be made here
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Reloadedisraelp: 2:15pm On Jun 21
belikewater:
If anyone still doubts that Jesus is the only way then you should ask yourself why witches and wizards fear that name? Except you don’t believe there is also evil in this world which means you’re nothing else but pun in the hands of the devil.

You can’t see the wind but you feel its effect all around you same way you might not be able to see into the spiritual world but you can always see its effect around you. If you don’t believe in Jesus you should at least be intrigued in learning more about him based on the effect his name has on evil.
that name number 1 in the world..... Those who don't believe slf still call upon the name in times of trouble....name wey death himself dey fear ... grin
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:18pm On Jun 21
Sixthsense2023:
No worry when your time comes you'll find out... Unfortunately you'll have no one to tell

God, Satan, Jesus Christ,Angels and demons, doesn't exist,

There's no reliable, concretable and approvable evidence of their existence.

Infact the so called heaven doesn't exist,

please don't let anybody deceive you, heaven is just a figment of imagination,
Only people who know that they are going to he3 say this. It is already know n that blessings and cuses exist. So, just chill and wait for your inheritance
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Reloadedisraelp: 2:19pm On Jun 21
Sixthsense2023:
No worry when your time comes you'll find out... Unfortunately you'll have no one to tell

God, Satan, Jesus Christ,Angels and demons, doesn't exist,

There's no reliable, concretable and approvable evidence of their existence.

Infact the so called heaven doesn't exist,

please don't let anybody deceive you, heaven is just a figment of imagination,
na u con exist from stone ? angry🙄
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Reloadedisraelp: 2:21pm On Jun 21
Nduka172:
Imagine the Bible said God rested do you believe
Is God a human being that gets tired
Reading the Bible and understanding the supremacy of the Creator is complex
... The resting nor concern u..... tongue
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:24pm On Jun 21
EnemyofGod4:
I just need a prove from you.can you prove to me the existence of God ,Satan and heaven aside using your fake European bible ?
1) Proof of God, Have you ever seen a thing create itself? Never!

2) Proof of satan. Thank God you too have created things like God, so look at all the things you created, do they on their own do evil to another of your creations? Never!

Oya, let us see if you can say something valid and reasonable in rebuttal
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Nozarashi: 2:28pm On Jun 21
jesusjnr2020:
How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils

Satan and his angels weren't always called devils, but were angels in heaven, until pride came and led to their fall from heaven.

Revelation 12:7-9 (KJV)

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


Luke 10:18 (KJV)

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Moreover pride didn't only turn angels into devils and cause their great fall from heaven, it also destined them for eternal destruction in the lake of fire prepared for them.

Matthew 25:41 (KJV)

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 20:10 (KJV)

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Therefore pride is not something worth celebrating but to be shunned at all cost, because pride goes before a fall and eventual destruction in hell. Proverbs 16:18

God bless.
Wow, so god lost control of his angels🤦🏾
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:29pm On Jun 21
seyicodes:
Angels can't turn into devil
Satan was/is an angel and yet he is the first, the eviL
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:31pm On Jun 21
Nozarashi:
Wow, so god lost control of his angels🤦🏾
When you cuss, punish and put a criminal in your prison, is that not proof of control?
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:34pm On Jun 21
Josywhyte:
Op, one question for you. What is the complexion of Jesus, satan and angels?
Goodness and Light is Jesus and Angels complexion and ivu and darkness is Satan's complexion.
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:38pm On Jun 21
ReacherSaidNoth:
Very conveniently the people who have near-death experiences always hallucinate whatever rubbish religious things they already believe in.

Your heaven and hell only exist in your Bible storybook.
Yet, when you experience the feeling goodness, you say you are in heaven. But I'm sure its been a very long time you have experienced such, since God has shut your heaven
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:41pm On Jun 21
ReacherSaidNoth:
And the All-knowing creator could not foresee that outcome?

Take your nonsensical Israeli fairytales out of here undecided
Look at His Reaction, do you see Him being surprised and shocked?

You already know that the part you have in God is the lake of fire part, so you shouldn't have come here. The thread is not for you
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by GlobalWay: 2:46pm On Jun 21
Awesome thread. Thanks OP
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:49pm On Jun 21
EnemyofGod4:
Please answer me this simple question,

where was you when u were born ?

If something must be created,who created God ?

I mean how did God came into existence ?

Where was God when he created heaven and earth ?

Where is hellfire located ?

Remember,you can't take something from nothing, and you can't keep something untop nothing.
For you to say "something" and "nothing", it means that you know that the difference between something and nothing, is the existence of the thing.

So from your question, you admit that God exist and so you have only moved post beyond the scope of issue in asking who created God ?/how did God came into existence ? /Where was God when he created heaven and earth ?.

It is exactly like kicking the ball into throwing or over in football, so invalid question
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:49pm On Jun 21
EnemyofGod4:
Please answer me this simple question,

where was you when u were born ?

If something must be created,who created God ?

I mean how did God came into existence ?

Where was God when he created heaven and earth ?

Where is hellfire located ?

Remember,you can't take something from nothing, and you can't keep something untop nothing.
For you to say "something" and "nothing", it means that you know that the difference between something and nothing, is the existence of the thing.

So from your question, you admit that God exist and so you have only moved post beyond the scope of issue in asking who created God ?/how did God came into existence ? /Where was God when he created heaven and earth ?.

It is exactly like kicking the ball into throwing or over in football, so invalid questions
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:57pm On Jun 21
GlobalWay:
My Brother, when I read the Apocrypha Books removed from the Bible, I didn't know when I started shedding tears for seeing the immeasurable Wickedness of why these Christian Empowering Books were removed. In the Book of Jubilee (I even feel like crying now) I was shocked when I read where Ishmeal boasted to Isaac that he edured the Pain of Circumcision because he loved AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH far more than Isaac that was claiming to be the Promised Chid. Isaac then responded by saying like "Nonsense, you lost just small flesh and you are claiming it shows you Love AHAYAH more. I'm far ready to give my Life up and be killed anytime any day ALMIGHTY AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH commanded me to do such to prove my Love for HIM!" Satan heard this and wanted to use it as Trap to send Isaac to HellFire by later accusing to AHAYAH that Isaac would never do such. Satan was hoping Isaac never meant such, so that Isaac would be proven to be a Liar and Deceiver. To put Satan to eternal Shame on the matter ALMIGHTY I AM THAT I AM then commanded Abraham to go and Sacrifice him, even Abraham might not have known the Bragging discussion that happened between his 2 Sons. This is the True foundation of the Story and many more Christian Empowerins Scriptures like Book of Enoch, Daniel and the Bel Dragon which teaches Christians how to Kill Dragons, etc. The wickedness done against modern day Christianity is immeasurable!
Every discerning person knows this is clearly fake and a fabrication created by Muslims as it shows the jealousy, hatred and anger Muslims have for Isaac and Christians
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by Dtruthspeaker: 2:58pm On Jun 21
AntiChristian:
Earth is not peaceful even heaven is not peaceful too!

Is God not in control abi na autopilot?
It is proof of control when rebels are thrown into hot prisons
Re: How Pride Turned Angels Into Devils by GlobalWay: 3:06pm On Jun 21
My friend, go and Read the Apocryphal first then you will be qualified to have this Deep discussion. How on Earth would a Christian that claims to seek and Love TRUTH=Complete Truth about Our CREATOR and True History of Christian Religion not have Read Books like Book of Enoch which was satanically Removed from Bible despite that JESUS AHAYAHsha copiously quoted it? They are very free to download as PDF by simply searching Google and audio versions are also on YouTube. But most of your likes rather addicted to being spoonfed Sunday Sunday by the Pasters that copy only what Roman Empire Catholic handed over to the modern day End Time Church because, you are only paying lip service when it comes to Loving ALMIGHTY I AM THAT I AM Our Eternal Heavenly FATHER and HIS Son AHAYAHsha Our Redeemer.
Dtruthspeaker:
Every discerning person knows this is clearly fake and a fabrication created by Muslims as it shows the jealousy, hatred and anger Muslims have for Isaac and Christians
When I read the Apocrypha Books removed from the Bible, I didn't know when I started shedding tears for seeing the immeasurable Wickedness of why these Christian Empowering Books were removed. In the Book of Jubilee (I even feel like crying now) I was shocked when I read where Ishmeal boasted to Isaac that he edured the Pain of Circumcision because he loved AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH far more than Isaac that was claiming to be the Promised Chid. Isaac then responded by saying like "Nonsense, you lost just small flesh and you are claiming it shows you Love AHAYAH more. I'm far ready to give my Life up and be killed anytime any day ALMIGHTY AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH commanded me to do such to prove my Love for HIM!" Satan heard this and wanted to use it as Trap to send Isaac to HellFire by later accusing to AHAYAH that Isaac would never do such. Satan was hoping Isaac never meant such, so that Isaac would be proven to be a Liar and Deceiver. To put Satan to eternal Shame on the matter ALMIGHTY I AM THAT I AM then commanded Abraham to go and Sacrifice him, even Abraham might not have known the Bragging discussion that happened between his 2 Sons. This is the True foundation of the Story and many more Christian Empowerins Scriptures like Book of Enoch, Daniel and the Bel Dragon which teaches Christians how to Kill Dragons, etc. The wickedness done against modern day Christianity is immeasurable!
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