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So recently, Peter Obi made a comment that he was going to improve our power supply by 10000mw, which would take us up to 32000 mw...which should be enough for us to get light 24/7 (subject to the Siemens project working)...and the response was tinubu supporters making fun of Obi as a man without ideas, while Obi supporters praised their man as being wisdom incarnante.

Except that Obi did not tell us how he plans to do it.

Which essentially begs the question, how do we vote for a guy who promises us something, but does not tell us how to do it.

Which leads me back to Tinubu. IN 2023, tinubu said...if you vote me and I do not give you constant power supply, vote me out in 2027.

Naturally tinubu supporters were praising their man as being a tough minded leader, etc, etc....while Obi people are now calling in the receipts. Man has not done as promised so he should be kicked out.


Which leads me to my point.

Tinubu and obi never/have not told Nigerians how they intend to improve power supply.


The truth of the matter is, we have a plan, laid out by the experts, about power supply. A decent , strong plan....cost reflective tarrifs, ending power theft, and rolling out metering.

But neither tinubu nor obi, nor even atiku or any potential candidate would mention that because it does not win votes. (Sowore would probably announce a plan to give 24 hour light a day at N1 per kwh).


Nigerians , regardless of political party, like hearing populist language. If a leader came into office and started doing the things the experts have said we should do, he would be voted out. Or chased out. You will see the Fulani herdsmen marching with the Igbo farmer, the Yoruba trader marching with his Hausa counterpart, and there would be riots.


And the leader would be voted out.

That is why whoever takes office, won't be allowed to improve power because Nigerians think that electricity should be free of charge.

When in reality, it is not possible.

Electricity costs money. If you won;t pay for it in cost reflective tarrif, you will pay for it in generator and inverter monies. That is what Band A taught us.

And on that Band A, the idea of tinubu was not original. India has a similar system, present for decades, that commercial and industrial properties would pay a cost reflective tarrif and the profits would be used to pay for subsidising the poor farmers and rural people

And after doing that, has power supply in India improved? (No.).

Infact India is planning to make everyone pay cost reflective tarrfs in five years time.


SO, if it didn't work in India, how e go work in NIgeria?

The only way we can get free power is to take massive loans totalling nearly 2/3rd of our budgets for the next ten or more years...and while it may give us enough light, it would also put us in heavy debt for it.


In 2025, Prof Barth Nnaji, who is definetly not a Tinubu supporter put it well

Speaking on attempt by state’s electricity regulatory authority reviewing existing tariff structure, Prof. Bart Nnaji, former power minister and chairman Geometric Power, called for more cost-reflective electricity tariff, stressing that the current pricing structure fails to cover the operational and maintenance costs of Power Generation Companies (GenCos), particularly as many critical inputs are imported.


According to Nnaji, the energy charge component of the power tariff must be able to cover the cost of maintaining the assets, adding that if operators cannot recover expenses for operations and maintenance which are often dollar denominated there will be recurring system failures.

He said the regulator must continue to adjust tariffs in line with actual industry costs to ensure sustainability.

SAUCE : LEADERSHIP NEWSPAPER


I have been saying the above for years, but people here abuse me, so I may as well quote the actual expert, who is a qualified engineer, a former ministar of power, and an owner of a GENCO.

And he is not the first or the last to state that this needs to be done. PwC have said it, several experts have been saying it, a BBC report said it, and so forth.

Yet, Nigerians and their candidates choose to believe the fiction of corruption or some evil Western zionist overmind does not want to give us light.

It is easier to believe conspiracy theory fiction

Like NIgerians, like candidates.


Good afternoon.

I expcet to be abused and to be told about other countries that somehow magically give free power(the macs won't add that those countries pay for it with heavy taxes, or heavy debt).

I already come up with a solution but not mature yet for online discussion.

Acting is better than mouth running

Modified:

Let me give a hint. We need as many as transformers across streets. That's number one major cause of the power failure.

Nepa brought light within a mins, inside same house, one is using boiling ring, one is using iron while another one is using electric stove.

In such situation, it's the transformer that will suffer it , if the transformer can't hold the heat, its going back to the power line

This is bullshit. You can't talk about billing where the infrastructure is non existent. What people are saying is make the infrastructure available first. That is where successive governments have failed woefully.

You have a very warped perspective of reality as a person. Stop excusing failure of government by assumption that citizens cannot pay for services. Is the infrastructure available?

Nobody is asking for free electricity, for each administration a certain amount is drawn as budget to improve electricity generation and distribution, your questions should be directed at the lack of results and not based on uneducated guesses.

Ask why Nigeria is still below 10k MW after releasing billions of $ down from Obj's administration till this one.

I have no idea on this topic

Don't know what to input

Simple and straightforward. Thanks for sharing.

If Obi fails we vote him out too👌

For now Tinubu has to go

helinues:
I already come up with a solution but not mature yet for online discussion.

Acting is better than mouth running

Prof. Tell your tax master to check Mele Kyari's pocket very well. The 210 trillion he will find inside can fix Nigerians electricity situation for decades uninterrupted without the citizens paying a dime

Unfaized:
This is bullshit. You can't talk about billing where the infrastructure is non existent. What people are saying is make the infrastructure available first. That is where successive governments have failed woefully.

Reading skills 100%
Comprehension 0%

You are welcome.

As for me and my family we'll be managing our solar power till when Nigeria decides to get it right.

No doubt power is expensive we know and I believe people pay according to their consumption using prepaid meters. Make the power available, fix your tariff and watch if people will not pay and use it judiciously

Solcampbell:
Prof. Tell your tax master to check Mele Kyari's pocket very well. The 210 trillion he will find inside can fix Nigerians electricity situation for decades uninterrupted without the citizens paying a dime

NA God I wan take beg you and your likes, no dey sound incoherently on my mentions again

No warning next time

Ask yourself this question the band A people who are paying the cost effective as you termed it, are they enjoying electricity as it is right now?

Obi never said he will add 10000. That's how misinformation starts. He said he will generate, transmit and distribute at least 10,000WM in 4 years. We are currently distributing only around 5000 (even though installed capacity is more). So he will essentially double it.

As to how he will do it, it rests on the integrity of the leader. Let all the other candidates say how they will do theirs, then Obi will also say his own. You guys cannot be clever by half.

moscow007:
If Obi fails we vote him out too👌

For now Tinubu has to go

10 thousands of Obi can't defeat president Tinubu in any election. I can beat my chest on that

1. First let me address this popular propaganda that opposition have used to try and de-market Bola Tinubu about power.
Tinubu gave a caveat in that very video that they use for propaganda but it's either our education system has gone totally to zero or people just choose to be funny , at the end of that video he said " unless I come to you and give adequate reasons why I couldn't deliver "
Please see link to that clip below :
https://youtube.com/shorts/LPkRq5ooGKM?si=CqdsWHo5S0fClYKZ

2. I agree with all you have said about power but Nigerians dont want to pay what developed countries pay for electricity

3. Of all the candidates tinubu still gets my vote as he has shown courage to try new reforms that even though looked harsh have begun to bear fruit .

helinues:
I already come up with a solution but not mature yet for online discussion.

Acting is better than mouth running

Prof. Tell your tax master to check Mele Kyari's pocket very well. The 210 trillion he will find inside can fix Nigerians electricity situation for decades uninterrupted without the citizens paying a dime.

Nigeria is a rich country and you know it. We all know you re one of the paid urchins, so stop sounding clever.

I completely disagreement with this argument. Firstly, I am sure most Nigerians will be happy to pay for electricity of they have quality electricity with affordable tariffs. The current electrical infrastructure is inefficient and inadequate which means high operational cost...
Nigerians needs to generate large scale electricity via either solar or nuclear and watch the cost come down.

So helinues is thesame person as nairalanda1

Truth is no black African leader can do better than the other. I'm not a Tinubu supporter but he is not doing anything different from his predecessors. Yaradua is praised for reducing the price of petrol during his time but the highest corruption in subsidy happened under him.

I agree with you that Peter Obi may not be able to change anything in Nigeria's power situation. Not because he will not be able to do it but because of the reasons you stated. South Africa is battling the same thing; black people feel electricity should be free.

To me, Tinubu already delivered constant light. During previous government, many areas across Nigeria do only see light maybe 5x a month. But now, the situation is different. Many areas across Nigeria are seeing light daily… Some are seeing light 6/7/8/9/10/20 hours in this present day Nigeria as we speak. Such thing does not exist in the past under previous government. But today, many Nigerians can beat their chest that about having light everyday..

To me, Tinubu already delivered constant light. What’s remaining now is having the light regular. One thing is to have light everyday, another thing is to have light 24hours everyday. Many Nigerians can boost of using light everyday, but not many can boost of having it 24hours everyday..

So, to me, the solution to having light regular is to remove complete subsidy on electricity, just exactly we’ve remove subsidy on petrol - which eventually stopped Nigerians from spending 5hours at filling station to purchase 5litres of fuel..

Bless!

How much are all there politicians looting and don't we think it can fund our power supply?

This topic shows Helinues as the OP when opened, but on the front page it appears to have been posted by Nairalanda1.

Why did you later delete the post?

So helinues is thesame person as nairalanda1

We don catch you today.

Rubbish post, where you not in this country when he made example with Egypt, I bet you laughed at him when he said so the other time, about going to learn how Egypt did theirs and replicate it here.

You want him to tell you so you'll go about posting rubbish as usual to counter him.

Nigeria's Darkeness is a Business

nairalanda1:
So recently, Peter Obi made a comment that he was going to improve our power supply by 10000mw, which would take us up to 32000 mw...which should be enough for us to get light 24/7 (subject to the Siemens project working)...and the response was tinubu supporters making fun of Obi as a man without ideas, while Obi supporters praised their man as being wisdom incarnante.

Except that Obi did not tell us how he plans to do it.

Which essentially begs the question, how do we vote for a guy who promises us something, but does not tell us how to do it.

Which leads me back to Tinubu. IN 2023, tinubu said...if you vote me and I do not give you constant power supply, vote me out in 2027.

Naturally tinubu supporters were praising their man as being a tough minded leader, etc, etc....while Obi people are now calling in the receipts. Man has not done as promised so he should be kicked out.


Which leads me to my point.

Tinubu and obi never/have not told Nigerians how they intend to improve power supply.


The truth of the matter is, we have a plan, laid out by the experts, about power supply. A decent , strong plan....cost reflective tarrifs, ending power theft, and rolling out metering.

But neither tinubu nor obi, nor even atiku or any potential candidate would mention that because it does not win votes. (Sowore would probably announce a plan to give 24 hour light a day at N1 per kwh).


Nigerians , regardless of political party, like hearing populist language. If a leader came into office and started doing the things the experts have said we should do, he would be voted out. Or chased out. You will see the Fulani herdsmen marching with the Igbo farmer, the Yoruba trader marching with his Hausa counterpart, and there would be riots.


And the leader would be voted out.

That is why whoever takes office, won't be allowed to improve power because Nigerians think that electricity should be free of charge.

When in reality, it is not possible.

Electricity costs money. If you won;t pay for it in cost reflective tarrif, you will pay for it in generator and inverter monies. That is what Band A taught us.

And on that Band A, the idea of tinubu was not original. India has a similar system, present for decades, that commercial and industrial properties would pay a cost reflective tarrif and the profits would be used to pay for subsidising the poor farmers and rural people

And after doing that, has power supply in India improved? (No.).

Infact India is planning to make everyone pay cost reflective tarrfs in five years time.


SO, if it didn't work in India, how e go work in NIgeria?

The only way we can get free power is to take massive loans totalling nearly 2/3rd of our budgets for the next ten or more years...and while it may give us enough light, it would also put us in heavy debt for it.


In 2025, Prof Barth Nnaji, who is definetly not a Tinubu supporter put it well



SAUCE : LEADERSHIP NEWSPAPER


I have been saying the above for years, but people here abuse me, so I may as well quote the actual expert, who is a qualified engineer, a former ministar of power, and an owner of a GENCO.

And he is not the first or the last to state that this needs to be done. PwC have said it, several experts have been saying it, a BBC report said it, and so forth.

Yet, Nigerians and their candidates choose to believe the fiction of corruption or some evil Western zionist overmind does not want to give us light.

It is easier to believe conspiracy theory fiction

Like NIgerians, like candidates.


Good afternoon.

I expcet to be abused and to be told about other countries that somehow magically give free power(the macs won't add that those countries pay for it with heavy taxes, or heavy debt).

Bro let's not sugar coat anything, there are powerful cabals invested in keeping things a certain way in this country because they are profiting heavily from the status quo. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's the reality. And it will take a strong-willed set of leaders to break this mind set or else no matter what plans are laid they'll never amount to anything.

It will never improve because Nigeria is a failed state. Any nation in which criminals are in power will never record any progress.

Unfaized:
This is bullshit. You can't talk about billing where the infrastructure is non existent. What people are saying is make the infrastructure available first. That is where successive governments have failed woefully.

You have a very warped perspective of reality as a person. Stop excusing failure of government by assumption that citizens cannot pay for services. Is the infrastructure available?

Nobody is asking for free electricity, for each administration a certain amount is drawn as budget to improve electricity generation and distribution, your questions should be directed at the lack of results and not based on uneducated guesses.

Ask why Nigeria is still below 10k MW after releasing billions of $ down from Obj's administration till this one.

I intentionally skipped reading the bullsh!t because I knew his whole point is going to be on Billing.

They also said that we are suffering because we aren't paying enough taxes...

They always forget (intentionally) to address the corruption aspect, which is the major thing holding the country backward.

Because if you can't account for little, there is no point entrusting you with much.

This is the difference between developed and regressing third world countries.

Nefort:
How much are all there politicians looting and don't we think it can fund our power supply?

He should tell Tinubu to check Mele Kyari's pocket, the 210 trillion naira he will see inside is enough to fix Nigeria's Electricity situation uninterrupted for decades without the citizens paying a dime

The fact that we have huge market for electricity and we not tapping from the market is shocking

Hogwash!

Nigerians are paying 1,350 naira per liter to buy petrol.
They can afford 230 naira per kwh.

You can't be shouting cost reflective tariff when most of your customers are on estimated billing. The reason why Discos don't want 100% coverage prepaid is because they are making money by selling blackout with estimated billing.

Power supply can improve if there is a political will to do so.

micktoxin:
I completely disagreement with this argument. Firstly, I am sure most Nigerians will be happy to pay for electricity of they have quality electricity with affordable tariffs.

Quality electricity and affordable tarrifs can't coexist. That's OP's point. You have to choose one.

For your information, a standard home (TV, fridge, lights) consumes at least 5 units per 24 hours. That cost about 1200 naira. Calculate that in a month and tell me the percentage of Nigerians to that can afford that.