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Poll: Do you believe Iran truly won against israel and USA?

Yes, they won big and are now stronger 69% (265 votes)
No they lost the war 30% (118 votes)
This poll has ended

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Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by Oche0001: 4:29pm On Jun 21
New weapon of mass destruction that can finally remote Israel from the map..

Same Isreal is bombarding Lebanon Iran's favourite ally..and you can try to help Lebanon with this new weapon

The way some people reason when

You think US allies in the middle east will remove US military bases cos of your annoying scratches

Jokers in deed
Neoteny:
-one old, sick mullah was upgraded to a younger, more hardline one

-$300b restitution for the damage caused

-Ballistic missiles and drones 90% intact

-New weapon of mass destruction acquired by direct control of the Strait of Hormuz.

-Sanction relief and oil sales providing plenty of liquidity to rebuild the military and make it stronger

-New revenue stream from charging fees at SoH

-13 dead US service members, all US bases and capabilities in the region ruined, losing the US billions of dollars in infrastructure and creating a strategic blindspot

-Likely costing Trump the midterms

-US gulf allies rethinking their commitment to US military support and base hosting, realigning the balance of power in the region

-drove a deep political wedge between the US and allies.

With the above, especially with a new-found weapon that can squeeze not just Israel and the US but the entire globe, I'd say that's a damn good deal. We're glad you got an old decrepit mullah, a few dead soldiers, and sunken rundown ineffective ships for all the benefits and levers of power Iran now has.

So keep lying to yourself the US and Israel won, when this thread is about how the entire Zionist nation is grieving about their loss and bellyaching about the US.

Your perspiration as you contort yourself into a pretzel to defend your ignominy solo hydrates my soul 😂🤪😜😝😛
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by QuinQ: 4:32pm On Jun 21
Neoteny:
-one old, sick mullah was upgraded to a younger, more hardline one

-$300b restitution for the damage caused

-Ballistic missiles and drones 90% intact

-New weapon of mass destruction acquired by direct control of the Strait of Hormuz.

-Sanction relief and oil sales providing plenty of liquidity to rebuild the military and make it stronger

-New revenue stream from charging fees at SoH

-13 dead US service members, all US bases and capabilities in the region ruined, losing the US billions of dollars in infrastructure and creating a strategic blindspot

-Likely costing Trump the midterms

-US gulf allies rethinking their commitment to US military support and base hosting, realigning the balance of power in the region

-drove a deep political wedge between the US and allies.

With the above, especially with a new-found weapon that can squeeze not just Israel and the US but the entire globe, I'd say that's a damn good deal. We're glad you got an old decrepit mullah, a few dead soldiers, and sunken rundown ineffective ships for all the benefits and levers of power Iran now has.

So keep lying to yourself the US and Israel won, when this thread is about how the entire Zionist nation is grieving about their loss and bellyaching about the US.

Your perspiration as you contort yourself into a pretzel to defend your ignominy solo hydrates my soul 😂🤪😜😝😛
Everything you said is contingent upon Iran behaving well as defined by Trump, a definition that will change after midterm elections.
Funny thing is that if Iran had asked for even 20 trillion Trump would have promised it to them for his political survival. How many times had he said he'd be impeached if the Dems win - which they'd do in a landslide if the war continued.

US learnt a lot from the war. Golf states need to be made Iran-proof - with their own money.
Hormuz is Iran's only card and you can be sure it's being solved as we speak. By the time the next bombing starts they'd no longer have that card
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by obailala(m): 4:32pm On Jun 21
Babatunjo:
Ayatollah Khameni, his close family members, and a lot of top leaders of Iran are dead. Netanyahu and Trump are alive.


US blockaded Iran. Israel and US wasn't blockaded

Do with that info, whatever you want.
How does assassinating an 86 year old terminally ill cancer patient, only for him to be replaced by his healthy son, amount to victory?

If you ask me, the true intention of the assassination was to wipe out the entire Islamic regime, after realising that the sponsored internal uprising earlier in the year was unsuccessful at removing the Ayotallah.

The yardstick for victory would have been replacing the Islamic regime with a puppet regime that'd be amenable to western dictates. But that clearly didn't happen; infact the only thing the war achieved was to make Iran look stronger, while making Israel's defences look weak. The war also embarrassed the US by making them look clueless on how to infiltrate Iran.

Except it's a Viking vs squabble, I've never seen any real war where the indices for measuring victory is killing a president.
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by jaxxy(m): 4:34pm On Jun 21
ayusco85:
America should stop embarrassing themselves by going into needles wars.
Iran will be Liberated.
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by AntiisIam(m): 4:38pm On Jun 21
doffman:
AntIam shey u hear .

Every sensible people know that nah .

Na only eruuuuuu pauluuu will disagree.
Only eyan shigi olowo otun meji will believe Iran won after their generals and supreme leaders were connected with their gurls in alujana

Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by Neoteny(m): 4:39pm On Jun 21
QuinQ:
Everything you said is contingent upon Iran behaving well as defined by Trump, a definition that will change after midterm elections.
Funny thing is that if Iran had asked for even 20 trillion Trump would have promised it to them for his political survival. How many times had he said he'd be impeached if the Dems win - which they'd do in a landslide if the war continued.

US learnt a lot from the war. Golf states need to be made Iran-proof - with their own money.
Hormuz is Iran's only card and you can be sure it's being solved as we speak. By the time the next bombing starts they'd no longer have that card
Has Iran been behaving well? Didn't they just shut down SoH with Vance downplaying it?

The US has learned one very vital lesson: misadventures in the middle east on behalf of Israel are bad for the US. G. W. Bush learned that well, now Trump has FAFOd too, and immediately TACOd. Trump would rather the political flame from the GOP AIPAC goons, Miriam Adelson, the entire Israeli contraption, and anyone else just so long as he can hightail it outta there.

While you were under your rock, Iran kept dictating terms of the US surrender, and they got Trump to fold. Anytime they threaten to blackout, Trump calls Bibi hurling invectives.

Trump won't dare restart this war, nor would any US president. That's why Obama went for a deal. That's why for 40 years all US presidents turned down Bibi except the orange clown who just found out.

Keep your hopes up, in some earth somewhere in the multiverse, the US undoubtedly won.

Now, let me savor your pains and disbelief.

😂 😆
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by Righteousness2(m): 4:40pm On Jun 21
Neoteny:
Especially Rabbi QuinQ.

Where's these days, by the way? 🤔...has he gone to join the IDF in Lebanon?
See as u de fool yourselves.

ISRAELIS are angry with the USA for withholding them from completely destroying Iran you de here de rejoice ontop nonsense.

All your leaders, Spirtual and Physical are fathers are with their various Virgins In hell .
Your nation is Crippled All round.
You de here de talk crap alongside god1000
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by Neoteny(m): 4:44pm On Jun 21
Righteousness2:
See as u de fool yourselves.

ISRAELIS are angry with the USA for withholding them from completely destroying Iran you de here de rejoice ontop nonsense.

All your leaders, Spirtual and Physical are fathers are with their various Virgins In hell .
Your nation is Crippled All round.
You de here de talk crap
Ha ha ha.

The most righteous loser has finally crawled out of his cocoon of embarrassment and shame.

Satanyahu spent 40 years of his miserable life begging for the US to help him take down Iran. He can't even refuel his planes to Iran, doesn't have bunker buster bombs to destroy Iran's nuke facilities and had to beg Trump.

All he's doing is shelling civilians in Lebanon, as the cowardly IDF does, and fuming that Trump won't help him wreck Iran.

If he's not listening to the US in Lebanon, why's he not attacking Iran himself? Could it be the 12 day war taught him a lesson that his overhyped iron sieve was not impenetrable? Why's he so terrified of iran's ballistic missiles?

Please call Bibi and tell him to do the same strong-head he's doing in Lebanon against Iran.

😂
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by Putinofrussia: 4:48pm On Jun 21
QuinQ:
In football do you win by signing a deal that can be reneged upon right after midterm elections (that could have Trump impeached if the war continued)? In football do your players die permanently and the other team only promised to give you money if you behaved well?
If you missed your objective in a war especially a super power and begged for a ceasefire like USA did,that is a failure.
Infact,the war gave more leverage to Iran and it showed all the world that it has a tight grip on the Strait of Hormuz now.
It is just like a nuclear bomb even more potent even America felt Iran's new nuclear bomb grin
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by Petehegseth: 4:55pm On Jun 21
Jakarta:
Lol Una funny sha, Khameni gone, military high ranks gone all currently fighting for depleted virgins in hell, Israel still pounding Hezbollah in Lebanon as we speak, and here you are searching through every nooks and crannies of the internet looking for news to console yourself. I thought you guys said BIbi was dead? When it comes to precision targeted strikes give it to Israel, if not Iran for don turn cemetery by now.
How many people die for Russia for ww2...
Na Hitler win?

Una wey no even understand life
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by KayB: 4:58pm On Jun 21
Cowards are always oppressive over the vulnerable
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by mamaafrik(m): 5:11pm On Jun 21
DMCA:
What do you do for a living? no offense .
HE IS AN "OLE N TELE ALFA" grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by maasoap(m): 5:20pm On Jun 21
They said that because Trump didn't help them destroy Iran completely, mtcheeew! Israel would have loved Iran took like Gaza and Lebanon.
Both USA and Israel dropped over 12,000 bombs on Iran, bombing everything and everyone including school kids
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by EKOMADENG: 5:21pm On Jun 21
Babatunjo:
Ayatollah Khameni, his close family members, and a lot of top leaders of Iran are dead. Netanyahu and Trump are alive.


US blockaded Iran. Israel and US wasn't blockaded

Do with that info, whatever you want.
So you know more than the people that conducted the poll. If you're too pained that Iran won the war, why not remain silent. Are you telling me nobody died on the side of Israel and the Us. People will die that is why it's called war.
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by QuinQ: 5:22pm On Jun 21
Putinofrussia:
If you missed your objective in a war especially a super power and begged for a ceasefire like USA did,that is a failure.
Infact,the war gave more leverage to Iran and it showed all the world that it has a tight grip on the Strait of Hormuz now.
It is just like a nuclear bomb even more potent even America felt Iran's new nuclear bomb grin
Honestly, do you think Iran wouldn't a million times love to be back how they were before the war and still have all the people they lost??
US, on the other hand, learnt lessons worth more than anything they lost. I can assure you Hormuz, Iran"s only card, is being solved as we speak and would not be a factor in future US attacks
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by Delat521: 5:23pm On Jun 21
huptin:
Trump capitulated like a sissy, Iran knew that the US has it stands today cannot go all out, due to the Mid term elctions and if Donald Trump decides to leave Isreal to fight the war alone, Isreal can go rogue, within weeks there will no longer be a single person in the whole of Iran to negotiate with.

Trump does not want a totally destroyed Iran as it will become a fertile ground for terrorist activities putting Iran's neighbours in serious jeopardy but that is exactly what Isreal wants - a totally decapitated Iran, whether it becomes a terror haven is no business of theirs.
Lol you guys always like to massage your scrotum and masturbate on every nonsensical statement. Terrorist state of Israel will go rogue against who abeg.

I bet you if they try nosense there will be no Israel again on the map. I know Iran will not want to do anything nasty but I bet you if terrorist Israel date do werey they will see equal measure of same werey.

They should continue with hesbollah they know they can be attacking their buildings anyhow they know they can't be doing that for Iran and go scot free. 22 days war and recent war has taught them lesson. I don't why they do not insisting bombing Iran but hesbollah. Iran is their arch enemy while not continue fighting them. Coward! Even with the help of US they have seen Iran capabilities.

Of they try anything silly, the nukes over terrorist state of Israel is on the launch pad war head, they will smell it soon.
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by QuinQ: 5:27pm On Jun 21
Neoteny:
Has Iran been behaving well? Didn't they just shut down SoH with Vance downplaying it?

The US has learned one very vital lesson: misadventures in the middle east on behalf of Israel are bad for the US. G. W. Bush learned that well, now Trump has FAFOd too, and immediately TACOd. Trump would rather the political flame from the GOP AIPAC goons, Miriam Adelson, the entire Israeli contraption, and anyone else just so long as he can hightail it outta there.

While you were under your rock, Iran kept dictating terms of the US surrender, and they got Trump to fold. Anytime they threaten to blackout, Trump calls Bibi hurling invectives.

Trump won't dare restart this war, nor would any US president. That's why Obama went for a deal. That's why for 40 years all US presidents turned down Bibi except the orange clown who just found out.

Keep your hopes up, in some earth somewhere in the multiverse, the US undoubtedly won.

Now, let me savor your pains and disbelief.

😂 😆
😂😂Height of delusion indeed! This is only a PAUSE in the war foolishly allowed by Iran while Trump goes to work on midterms and on solving Hormuz. A pause - nothing more, nothing less!!

As to who ultimately won and will win, here's what I posted the guy above:

Honestly, do you think Iran wouldn't a million times love to be back how they were before the war and still have all the people they lost??
US, on the other hand, learnt lessons worth more than anything they lost. I can assure you Hormuz (Iran's only card) is being solved as we speak and would not be a factor or far less a factor when (not if) the war restarts.
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by kaymart: 5:30pm On Jun 21
Godkillbuhari:
foolish man...... always posting rubbish ...... Death to you and all terrorists...... mad people everywhere
You are sounding more like what you call someone else. The T-word.
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by dapadawee(m): 5:33pm On Jun 21
God1000:
The Nigerian Jews will tell you otherwise





Business, a very good business that brings a lot of money
Every Jews believe discontinuing the war means loss
The Jews wants netanyahu to defy trumps order.
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by dapadawee(m): 5:34pm On Jun 21
God1000:
The Nigerian Jews will tell you otherwise





Business, a very good business that brings a lot of money
Every Jews believe discontinuing the war means loss
The Jews wants netanyahu to defy trumps order.

War that will continue after world cup
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by maasoap(m): 5:35pm On Jun 21
Babatunjo:
Ayatollah Khameni, his close family members, and a lot of top leaders of Iran are dead. Netanyahu and Trump are alive.


US blockaded Iran. Israel and US wasn't blockaded

Do with that info, whatever you want.
People around the world including America citizens who believe that Iran came out of this war stronger than they were before also knew all the facts you stated before they declared that Iran won. There is battle and there is war.
Perhaps Iran "lost the battle but won the war". You can look up this phrase to understand what it means.
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by frankson1(m): 5:37pm On Jun 21
Babatunjo:
Ayatollah Khameni, his close family members, and a lot of top leaders of Iran are dead. Netanyahu and Trump are alive.


US blockaded Iran. Israel and US wasn't blockaded

Do with that info, whatever you want.
Iran "blockaded" the world.

It is because of Iran that the US and Israel are having issues and it might escalate.

US is begging and desperately wants a permanent ceasefire and the war to end.

US has lost military hardware running into several millions if not in billion.

With the deal on the table, Iran gained the most from the war.


Deal with this info however you want undecided
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by QuinQ: 5:37pm On Jun 21
commoditiesnig:
Sanctions! Sanctions! Sanctions!… That’s how to tame/keep in check countries like Iran just like Russia, North Korea, Cuba, etc.

You fight war, all parties lose one way or another!
In this particular case US actually lost very little compared to the lessons they learnt - while decimating Iran.
I don't think sanctions would have accomplished what US accomplished here and the lessons they learnt

frankson1:
Iran "blockaded" the world.

It is because of Iran that the US and Israel are having issues and it might escalate.

US is begging and desperately wants a permanent ceasefire and the war to end.

US has lost military hardware running into several millions if not in billion.

With the deal on the table, Iran gained the most from the war.


Deal with this info however you want undecided
You are too focused on NOW and the agreement signed. How about all Iran has lost in the PAST? How about nothing stops US doing whatever they wish in the FUTURE?
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by PDPdestroyer(m): 5:38pm On Jun 21
Those respondents are fake Israelis. The real Israelis in Agulu, Abakaliki and environs believe Iran lost and that’s all that matters
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by maasoap(m): 5:42pm On Jun 21
sweetjohn:
I don’t blame all this Islamic lunatics claiming victory I blamed the biggest loud mouthed lunatic in White House who stupidly be begging devastated Iran for ceasefire. How I wish the White House lunatic allow Israel to do as they wish in Iran by now, there would ve been a regime change
What do you think Israel can do without the massive supports of USA? Do you realise how long Netanyahu had been pushing successive American presidents before Trump to help him wage war against Iran? If it was that easy, he wouldn't have waited for Trump to lead.
If USA ever withdraw her economic and military support for Israel, it will be a matter of time before Israel falls.
And talking of regime change, was not here the pictures of Iran leaders were posted where only two of the entire cabinet members remain? That shows there can never be any regime change. You guys don't know when to quit at all. Luckily, Trump is learning and waking up slowly cheesy
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by Zehdbe(m): 5:45pm On Jun 21
so why is iran still standing and not feeling intimidated
Jakarta:
Lol Una funny sha, Khameni gone, military high ranks gone all currently fighting for depleted virgins in hell, Israel still pounding Hezbollah in Lebanon as we speak, and here you are searching through every nooks and crannies of the internet looking for news to console yourself. I thought you guys said BIbi was dead? When it comes to precision targeted strikes give it to Israel, if not Iran for don turn cemetery by now.
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by QuinQ: 5:47pm On Jun 21
PDPdestroyer:
Those respondents are fake Israelis. The real Israelis in Agulu, Abakaliki and environs believe Iran lost and that’s all that matters
And they are right. Iran did lose. Think:
Honestly, do you think Iran wouldn't a million times love to be back how they were before the war and still have all the people they lost??
US, on the other hand, learnt lessons worth more than anything they lost and wouldn't want things as they were before the war
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by frankson1(m): 5:47pm On Jun 21
Oche0001:
New weapon of mass destruction that can finally remote Israel from the map..

Same Isreal is bombarding Lebanon Iran's favourite ally..and you can try to help Lebanon with this new weapon

The way some people reason when

You think US allies in the middle east will remove US military bases cos of your annoying scratches

Jokers in deed
Your Israel should dare throw a bomb towards Iran or is Iran and let's see what happens or is Iran no longer a threat undecided
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by frankson1(m): 5:54pm On Jun 21
sweetjohn:
I don’t blame all this Islamic lunatics claiming victory I blamed the biggest loud mouthed lunatic in White House who stupidly be begging devastated Iran for ceasefire. How I wish the White House lunatic allow Israel to do as they wish in Iran by now, there would ve been a regime change
Just last year, Israel thought they could face Iran alone only for bibi to cry to trump for help when Iran hammered them. It was trump who negotiated and ended the war.

This year, bibi had to squeeze Trump's balls and dragged him to join in the fight because he alone can't stand Iran.

Israel CAN NEVER DARE to fire missile towards Iran in their life.

No be to type grammar and no be everybody here are mentally lazy undecided
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by tollyboy5(m): 5:56pm On Jun 21
Jakarta:
Lol Una funny sha, Khameni gone, military high ranks gone all currently fighting for depleted virgins in hell, Israel still pounding Hezbollah in Lebanon as we speak, and here you are searching through every nooks and crannies of the internet looking for news to console yourself. I thought you guys said BIbi was dead? When it comes to precision targeted strikes give it to Israel, if not Iran for don turn cemetery by now.
But trump said they’re killing a lot of innocent people with their precision target
Re: Most Israelis Believe Iran Won Mideast War, Poll Finds by UrVillageChief: 5:59pm On Jun 21
garykoeman:
Nigeria Christian loves Israel even though Israel are not Christians.

Nigeria Muslim loves iran yet iran are shite.

I pity those brainwashed Africans supporters. grin
No bro, though I admire your thinking because I'm also a freethinker but you are a bit wrong here. The vast majority of the Nigerian Muslims is supporting Iran because they are Muslims (though not Sunni but many of them don’t even know this😂) while many Christians are quite aware that the Israelis aren't Christians.
If you are familiar with these people, you would know they hardly condemn their brothers' wrongs and instead of condemning them, they would rather decide to sit on the fence. We all saw how even the educated and influential ones among them were seen supporting those who killed that sokoto schoolgirl that year that they even hired lawyers to go defend them in court all because they shared the same religion and later they will tell you that the terrorists killing innocent people aren’t representing the religion.
Bro, unless you want to be lying to yourself, no Christian, Jew, Buddhist or hindu would want to associate themselves with a member of his religion who has just committed a murder all in the name of religion
Now away from that. I belong to neither of these two but I will always support the Jews because unlike
the Muslims and Islam, the Jews and their religion don't pose an existential threat to me and humanity at large. Judaism doesn’t have the ideology of spreading through violence. The Jews aren't known for killing people in the name of their religion. A Jewish person won't kill me for not practicing judiasm. A Jewish person won't slaughter me for insulting his God, Moses or Abraham. Forcing me to join his religion is the last thing even the most fanatical Jews would want to do. A Jewish man just wants to live and doesn't care about what and what you decide to do with your own life and this is exactly how all the other sane religions that are being practiced all around the world operate and of course, except this very particular one. This is the sentiment many of us share . Seeing that there are indeed some set of humans who are even more brutal than these brtes is such an immense victory for us all. The way I admire the Israelis for their handling of Islam is the same way I admire the Buddhist Chinese Government. I support everyone and every entity that has this cure.
Israel and China are the worst places on earth to call yourself a terrorist, you won't last a second.
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