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Poll: Which Deal Looks Better?
Obama 2015 Deal
73% (254 votes)
Trump 2026 Deal
26% (91 votes)
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| Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by MrEar(op): 7:43pm On Jun 22 |
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| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by MrEar(op): 7:44pm On Jun 22 |
Trump's deal looks way much better and smarter according to intelligent nairaland geopolitics first class expert PhD professors. ![]() |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by HacheNoire: 7:52pm On Jun 22 |
Nairaland wannabe’s will be here shortly to tell us how Trump’s deal is better! |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by MrEar(op): 7:55pm On Jun 22 |
HacheNoire:Take. Let's eat and be watching them.
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| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by HacheNoire: 8:02pm On Jun 22 |
MrEar:Let also share the drinks while we wait for them.
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| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by dawnomike(m): 8:51pm On Jun 22 |
I guess POTUS knows what he is doing... We just have to wait and see ![]() |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by Northernblood8(m): 9:35pm On Jun 22 |
Moderators no gree take my post to fp https://www.nairaland.com/8695231/discussion-assume-israel-innocent-nigerians |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by Baxilexi(m): 9:45pm On Jun 22 |
It’s futile to parse through this silly list, but for clarity, When did Iran develop the largest missile stockpile in the Middle East? When did they enrich uranium upto 60%? Who gave the Houthi’s and Hezbollah hypersonic missile? When was $25Bn released? When was all sanctions lifted? Where’s the Ayatollah? Where’s Iran’s naval fleet? Where’s their fighter jets? The unpatriotic nuisances of democrats are the only reason why write ups like this exists. If Trump has half the power of Xi jinpin, Putin, Netanyahu or Kim, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. The extremists love leftists, bunch of useful idiots. America should remember, their constitution is not a suicide pact, they have real enemies that wish to see them bleed.
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| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by IjeBos(m): 10:06pm On Jun 22 |
HacheNoire:All the while pretending to live in the US. Bemeruca, this thread is calling you. The benefit of Trump is he a great Rorschach test for the easily manipulated. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by tanigororo: 10:16pm On Jun 22 |
Baxilexi:Point out 5 intelligent people who use your criteria above to count Americas winning? |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by Baxilexi(m): 3:08am On Jun 23 |
tanigororo:I couldn’t agree more only unintelligent people use a different criteria; He singlehanded brought in the largest investment into the American economy before the war; Established a new US-Syria/venezuela relationship; Best stock market performance in years; Currently sells the most oil globally; Forced Europe and Asia to pay higher tariffs; Cut back on government spending internationally; Brought the World Cup to the US and pegged tickets at the highest ever sold in the history of the came and yet stadia are full (in the worst economy ever) This is on the home front. While IRGC apologists may attempt to twist the narrative that Iran is doing well, they’re suffering, badly. The only difference is Americans have a very low threshold for pain. Buying knicks tickets for $5000-50,000 in a terrible economy but $5 gas at the station is a massive inconvenience. Note; Nigeria a poor country also paid the global rate for energy prices. The IRGC may be breathing but it’s breathing its last; its lieutenants in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq are dwindling fast. The ideology is fading and Trump has woken up Europe. The UK has proscribed Palestinian protest as a crime something they were formerly scared to do because of external threats. In all the propaganda, remember, an MOU is not a pact or a treaty. At this point it’s a let’s sit down and yap. 1 cent hasn’t been given to the IRGC. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by basilico: 4:31am On Jun 23*. Modified: 4:47am On Jun 23 |
If Iran had obeyed the JPCOA agrreement, full compliance through Year 10 would have resulted in the following outcomes. 1. Lifting of Centrifuge Manufacturing Bans Iran would have been legally permitted to drastically upgrade its enrichment technology.Advanced Production: The strict cap on manufacturing advanced centrifuges would expire. Iran could begin building complete, highly efficient IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges at a rate of up to 200 machines per year. Infrastructure Upgrades: Iran would gain the right to install the necessary infrastructure at its Natanz facility to support these rapid-enrichment cascades. 2. Full Termination of UN and EU Nuclear Sanctions October 18, 2025, was designated as "Termination Day" under UN Security Council Resolution 2231. Had Iran complied: UN Security Council Exit: The United Nations would have officially closed Iran’s nuclear file and removed it from the Security Council agenda. Permanent Sanctions Relief: All remaining UN and European Union nuclear-related economic and architectural sanctions would have been permanently lifted, rather than just suspended. 3. Expiration of the "Snapback" Mechanism The JCPOA’s controversial snapback mechanism—which allowed any original participant to unilaterally reinstate sweeping UN sanctions if Iran violated the deal—was bound by a strict 10-year expiration date. After October 2025, Western powers would have lost the ability to bypass a UN Security Council veto to punish Iran with automated international sanctions. 4. Transition toward a "Nuclear Threshold State "While Iran would still be bound by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) prohibiting actual weaponization, the lifting of the 10-year caps would have significantly shortened its "breakout time" (the time required to enrich enough weapon-grade uranium for a bomb). Critics argued this timeline would allow Iran to legally scale up its enrichment capacity to an industrial level, effectively solidifying its status as a recognized nuclear threshold Stop your propaganda. Today had they obeyed the deal Iran would be free to enrich Uranium to whatever level, free from sanctions. Today they would egally have a nuclear bomb Obama gave them a pathway to the nuclear bomb carefully tying the hands of the international community after 10 years. I can tell you for a fact, there was not a single good thing in the deal . Not a single one.It was to be a total capitulation after 10 years . Trump has bombed those centrifuges they built. The negotiated settlement denands Iran to hand over all the 440 kg of the 60% HEU to America . There is no pathway to the bomb in the proposed negotiations simple As for the money Iran recieved an immediate cash $1.7 billion in pallets it's annual oil exports are around $45 billiom. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by DeltaBachelor(m): 6:27am On Jun 23 |
For me, I think it is Barack without the bloodshed and numerous loss of lives from both ends |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by zegeijuwa: 6:29am On Jun 23 |
If trump's deal is true then he has successfully destroyed the IRGC using Ghalibaf and Aragchi. Wonder while they were removed from Israeli hit list? Because of so many hardliners in Iran, the new government cannot announce to the people that they surrendered. Trump is not stupid and Someone is definitely going on that is not announced. Watch how Iranians will start selling peace and changing tactic. I do not expect everyone here to understand. Every Single speech giving general in Iran is gone. The remaining hardliners are normal public Iranians who cannot be pursued militarily. Eventually the foot soldiers hiding in mountains and receiving $25 as salary would come out to see that country is better. Iran surrendered in secret and agreed to keep talking tough to calm their public. Where are the Generals threatening aggressors on daily basis? all gone. Face it, who rules Iran now? Trump's Proxy. The public thinks its the Mojtaba khamenei but he is no more. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by legendarystar: 6:30am On Jun 23 |
I prefer Tinubu’s deal at least there is peace between all parties even Iranian Nigerians will agree with me.. Peace ✌️ |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by educatedfool: 6:33am On Jun 23 |
zegeijuwa:I feel your pain ![]() Trump FAFO ![]() |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by MrPresident1: 6:34am On Jun 23 |
The question is what is the American obsession with Iran? Why is Iran the centre point of american foreign policy such that every president that comes must seek to pacify the Iranians? What is so special about Iran that makes American so concerned about them all the time? |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by zegeijuwa: 6:34am On Jun 23 |
educatedfool:I was about to reply then I saw your name. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by fredoooooo: 6:35am On Jun 23 |
Trump.. if Obama has done all well we won't be with Trump today... |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by zegeijuwa: 6:37am On Jun 23 |
MrPresident1:Which other country in the world shouts death to the great Satan? The goal of those Mullahs is to impose their own version of Islam on the whole world even the Muslim countries. The only threat to that is America and the Mullahs had be concocting tactics to weaken the US. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by educatedfool: 6:37am On Jun 23 |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by SlavaUkraini: 6:39am On Jun 23 |
God Bless Donald J Trump Forever 🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇸🇮🇱 God Bless Benjamin Netanyahu Forever... Iran will never have a Nuclear weapon. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by MrPresident1: 6:40am On Jun 23 |
zegeijuwa:Who is the great Satan? Anybody can say anything, there is freedom of speech. There is no shred of evidence for everything that you are saying It is not written anywhere that Iran will be a troubler of world peace during the end times, what is written is that wickedness will increase because the oppressor is coming to an end |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by SenecaTheYonger: 6:41am On Jun 23 |
What I saw “American Stockpile: Depleted” That’s when I knew that image is nonsense. American weapon and depleted in the same sentence. Lol. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by Didi2d(m): 6:42am On Jun 23 |
MrPresident1:Very important question |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by Helinuse: 6:42am On Jun 23 |
One was a jeehardeeest. The other simply caved in to jeehardeest. Lesson for the day: Know the jeehardeests and be wise. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by Eraddray(m): 6:44am On Jun 23 |
One president managed Iran...the other is dealing with Iran... This are two different things, don't mix them together |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by erniok(m): 6:44am On Jun 23 |
Baxilexi:Trump, know too well he's no authoritarian, should not behave like one. Let's face reality. Obama deal he criticised turned out to be better than the one he inked. We can't wish away that reality. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by Wizardslayer: 6:45am On Jun 23 |
Trump just ended up embarrassing himself. Trump is just like wike that was embarrassed by that little boy soldier. He's empty fool that brags a lot. |
| Re: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by LordReed(m): 6:46am On Jun 23*. Modified: 2:33pm On Jun 23 |
Baxilexi:The enrichment was increased AFTER TRUMP tore up the JCPOA, so go figure. BTW Trump said Iran is allowed to have missiles so go talk to him. |
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