₦airaland Forum

ogolemati:
ok so we should allow the devil to continue stealing,killing and destroying . am still waiting when you will give a comprehensive list of what your creator Agbero chairman has done to better the life of ordinary people in nigeria.the demons that asked this question are incharge now

We're doing very well to keep confirmed devil agents like lying Obi out permanently, thanks to God.

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We're doing very well to keep confirmed devil agents like lying Obi out permanently, thanks to God.

agbero chairman started like you today he is now the father of all liars.continue

ogolemati:
agbero chairman started like you today he is now the father of all liars.continue

The devil is actually the father of all liars, Obi is a nationally known liar, go and verify.

loffyloffy:
Pastor Chris was just being smart by not exclusively saying Obi would win; he implied it in that message, and the people listening to him believed it. There's no evidence he corrected that impression.

If Obi had won, you'd be here celebrating the accuracy of his prophecy, not trying to give us an interpretation that suits the current reality.

The tragedy of what Pastor chris did is that When pastors become campaign directors, congregants inevitably become political foot soldiers, and Christ Himself is reduced to a mascot for earthly ambition.

Also , his theory ultimately reduces God to a spectator

Think about the implication.

According to him:

God chose Obi.
God knew Obi was timid.
God gave him no capacity to overcome his timidity.
God watched him fail.

That is a strange theology.

It portrays God as a talent scout rather than a sovereign God.

Moroccoguy:
Few months to satanic prophecy from the doom pastors and Imam, only in Nigeria that they prophesied everything.

Scripture also warns against speaking presumptuously in the name of God. "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain" (Exodus 20:7). Few things are more dangerous than attributing to God what God has not said.

Pastors are free to have political opinions. Christians are free to support candidates. But no man should confuse his preference with prophecy.

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The devil is actually the father of all liars, Obi is a nationally known liar, go and verify.

Perhaps the lesson is that God is less interested in slogans and more interested in competence.

In the end, one suspects that God, being omniscient, knows a competent man when He sees one.

And unlike partisans, He has no need for prophecy to recognize capacity.

CharlesCNG:
Scripture also warns against speaking presumptuously in the name of God. "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain" (Exodus 20:7). Few things are more dangerous than attributing to God what God has not said.

Pastors are free to have political opinions. Christians are free to support candidates. But no man should confuse his preference with prophecy.

Exactly, most them claim they hear from God and I believe God is not that less busy to be talking to a Nigeria pastor or Imam with the way they talk.

CharlesCNG:
So let us return to the point:

Should pastors turn the pulpit into a campaign platform?

Should Christians declare opponents satanic because they voted differently?

Should personal political preference be presented as God’s decree?

That is the issue.

Answer that, not with insults, but with reason.

Because if your only argument is “cast the devil out,” then you are not defending democracy.

You are preaching political possession.

But it's okay when Imams are doing it for Apc ,such a hypocrite no wonder you prefer the Muslim Muslim ticket,you don't want pastors to talk about politics

HIGHESTPOPORI:
But it's okay when Imams are doing it for Apc ,such a hypocrite no wonder you prefer the Muslim Muslim ticket,you don't want pastors to talk about politics

This is another lazy deflection. The issue is not whether imams or pastors should become partisan attack dogs. If an imam is wrong, say he is wrong. If a pastor is wrong, say he is wrong. Two wrongs do not become one righteousness because you are angry.

And as for the Muslim-Muslim ticket, stop using it like a permanent escape hatch for every argument. Nigerians already voted on that issue in 2023. The real question now is simple: should the church lower its own standard because it is bitter about the ticket? Is the church called to be light, or to copy what it condemns in others?

There is a proverb: the man who points at another person’s dirty cloth should first ask whether that dirt is enough reason to roll his own in mud.

So no, this is not hypocrisy. It is consistency. If the mosque is wrong, criticize it. If the church is wrong, criticize it too. But do not hide behind the Muslim-Muslim ticket as if that suddenly makes pulpit partisanship holy.

CharlesCNG:
This is another lazy deflection. The issue is not whether imams or pastors should become partisan attack dogs. If an imam is wrong, say he is wrong. If a pastor is wrong, say he is wrong. Two wrongs do not become one righteousness because you are angry.

And as for the Muslim-Muslim ticket, stop using it like a permanent escape hatch for every argument. Nigerians already voted on that issue in 2023. The real question now is simple: should the church lower its own standard because it is bitter about the ticket? Is the church called to be light, or to copy what it condemns in others?

There is a proverb: the man who points at another person’s dirty cloth should first ask whether that dirt is enough reason to roll his own in mud.

So no, this is not hypocrisy. It is consistency. If the mosque is wrong, criticize it. If the church is wrong, criticize it too. But do not hide behind the Muslim-Muslim ticket as if that suddenly makes pulpit partisanship holy.

I have gone through your page and didn't see any thread of you criticizing the mosque and Muslim muslim ticket

HIGHESTPOPORI:
I have gone through your page and didn't see any thread of you criticizing the mosque and Muslim muslim ticket

Precisely because I am a Christian, my first duty is to hold the church to the standard of Christ and Scripture.
I do not need to begin with the mosque before speaking about the church, because judgment begins with the household that claims to carry the light. If a so called man of God says, Thus saith the Lord,” when the Lord has not spoken, that is not politics alone; that is spiritual recklessness.

The pulpit of our Lord Jesus Christ is not meant to become a political podium. The church is not a campaign office. The altar is not for partisan mobilisation. When the church turns itself into a machinery of political agitation, it stains its own witness. That is why the “what about them?” argument fails. If the mosque gets something wrong, that is no permission slip for the church to copy error.

The church is called to be light, not echo. Light does not ask darkness for permission to shine, and it does not borrow darkness as an excuse to dim itself.

So no, this is not hypocrisy. It is responsibility. I am speaking first about the church because the church is the body that claims Christ, claims truth, claims holiness, and claims moral authority. To whom much is given, much is required.

The question is simple: if the church cannot hold itself to a higher standard than the world, then what exactly is it leading the world to?

CharlesCNG:
Precisely because I am a Christian, my first duty is to hold the church to the standard of Christ and Scripture.
I do not need to begin with the mosque before speaking about the church, because judgment begins with the household that claims to carry the light. If a so called man of God says, Thus saith the Lord,” when the Lord has not spoken, that is not politics alone; that is spiritual recklessness.

The pulpit of our Lord Jesus Christ is not meant to become a political podium. The church is not a campaign office. The altar is not for partisan mobilisation. When the church turns itself into a machinery of political agitation, it stains its own witness. That is why the “what about them?” argument fails. If the mosque gets something wrong, that is no permission slip for the church to copy error.

The church is called to be light, not echo. Light does not ask darkness for permission to shine, and it does not borrow darkness as an excuse to dim itself.

So no, this is not hypocrisy. It is responsibility. I am speaking first about the church because the church is the body that claims Christ, claims truth, claims holiness, and claims moral authority. To whom much is given, much is required.

The question is simple: if the church cannot hold itself to a higher standard than the world, then what exactly is it leading the world to?

You are not a Christian,cos you cannot leave the Muslim doing worse to criticize the church and christians.Its okay for you to support Muslim Muslim ticket and you claim you are a Christian,stop deceiving yourself

HIGHESTPOPORI:
I have gone through your page and didn't see any thread of you criticizing the mosque and Muslim muslim ticket

Why must CharlesCNG post what you want, you post your criticism of what you want and let him post what he wants to.

Stop putting people on the defensive about what they are interested in to post on.

Image123:
Hmmmm. Selah.

Indeed.
It is about the danger of pastors speaking with certainty where God has not spoken.

Because once you claim divine endorsement, every subsequent failure becomes not merely a political problem but a theological one.

And that is precisely why pastors should tread carefully.

For when men mistake their hopes for prophecy, they do not merely embarrass themselves.

They risk making God appear unreliable.

And that is too high a price to pay for politics.