₦airaland Forum

Lol wetin concern uk insurance company with tolled straigt of homus. Oman already said they want a free navigation.

So what about the other uk prime minister that have been resigning for decades now.

Una funny Sha.

Akamon:
Nice bringing this comparative analysis, but a whole lot is still not stated in your analysis.
You left out the storm in the Tea, Emperor Ayatollah. Killing Ayatollah and his top team in charge of Iran war head will cost any Nation alot. Not killing Ayatollah will not stop Iran stockpile and giving Iran edge in getting close to a nuclear warhead.
Secondly, unfortunately you don't have what it takes to understand the link between Kier Starmer resignation and Iran war. Which forms the second major reason for the war. An unholy marriage between USA and Iran to stop UK strong hold on straight of Hormuz multi billion dollar insurance strong hold.
This USA has outsmarted U.K, took ownership and in agreement gave Iran tolling right.
For Obama his negotiations is based on Iran deceiving USA while Trump agreement is taking a whole billion dollars pile of the insurance cover control of Hormuz from UK and killing all the top leadership of Iran to give USA room to have upper negotiating hand.
In all, for Trump, it's all about business gain's and leadership change

MrEar:
Trump's deal looks way much better and smarter according to intelligent nairaland geopolitics first class expert PhD professors.

Instead make shame catch trump they rather be disgraced and they and their slave masters will
Be disgraced noni

MrPresident1:
The question is what is the American obsession with Iran? Why is Iran the centre point of american foreign policy such that every president that comes must seek to pacify the Iranians?

What is so special about Iran that makes American so concerned about them all the time?

Iran plants and sponsors terrorists round the world. During Buhari's govt, heavy shipments of arms came from Iran to Nigeria moved to the north. It was cos of Iran's shipments that the terrorist govt of buhari created dry port in Kaduna.
Iran and Turkey can not be separated from terror in nigeria

America was simply pushed to Netyahu’s war. It was never about Nuclear weapons. Isreal simply wants America to attack Iran. And Iran thought America a very bitter lesson.

MrEar:
Trump vs Obama Iran deal which looks better?

source

Go n sit down with your propaganda n hate,Trump may be rash but his deal is still work in progress and it is definitely going to be much better as it will completely take out the chance of terrorist Iran acquiring nuclear capability by any means,try to get your facts right the US is not going to pay Iran a dime, released frozen assets are not a new payment,as for tolls or levy ,that is going to finally decided by IMO,mind you the Hormuz is not the only international marine straight in the world,and there are international marine laws regulating the use of marine straights,Iran would soon realize it false assumptions.

Baxilexi:
I couldn’t agree more only unintelligent people use a different criteria;

He singlehanded brought in the largest investment into the American economy before the war;

Established a new US-Syria/venezuela relationship;

Best stock market performance in years;

Currently sells the most oil globally;

Forced Europe and Asia to pay higher tariffs;

Cut back on government spending internationally;

Brought the World Cup to the US and pegged tickets at the highest ever sold in the history of the came and yet stadia are full (in the worst economy ever)

This is on the home front.


While IRGC apologists may attempt to twist the narrative that Iran is doing well, they’re suffering, badly. The only difference is Americans have a very low threshold for pain. Buying knicks tickets for $5000-50,000 in a terrible economy but $5 gas at the station is a massive inconvenience.
Note; Nigeria a poor country also paid the global rate for energy prices.

The IRGC may be breathing but it’s breathing its last; its lieutenants in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq are dwindling fast. The ideology is fading and Trump has woken up Europe. The UK has proscribed Palestinian protest as a crime something they were formerly scared to do because of external threats.

In all the propaganda, remember, an MOU is not a pact or a treaty. At this point it’s a let’s sit down and yap. 1 cent hasn’t been given to the IRGC.

Whenever I come across people like you, I immediately remember that guy that swam in the gutter for Buhari.

The deal looks good but how much of the deal made by Trump, he is ready to implement?Remember the unpredictability of predictable Trump.

Baxilexi:
It’s futile to parse through this silly list, but for clarity,

When did Iran develop the largest missile stockpile in the Middle East?
When did they enrich uranium upto 60%?
Who gave the Houthi’s and Hezbollah hypersonic missile?

When was $25Bn released?
When was all sanctions lifted?

Where’s the Ayatollah?
Where’s Iran’s naval fleet?
Where’s their fighter jets?

The unpatriotic nuisances of democrats are the only reason why write ups like this exists. If Trump has half the power of Xi jinpin, Putin, Netanyahu or Kim, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

The extremists love leftists, bunch of useful idiots.

America should remember, their constitution is not a suicide pact, they have real enemies that wish to see them bleed.

So after dealing with Iran militarily.
So after subjugating Iran with the greatest military might the world has ever seen.

You still ended up with a worse deal than Obama?


Some art of the deal..😂😂

MrPresident1:
The question is what is the American obsession with Iran? Why is Iran the centre point of american foreign policy such that every president that comes must seek to pacify the Iranians?

What is so special about Iran that makes American so concerned about them all the time?

Because Iran is beholden to the downtrodden of the middle east, ask the palestinians, ask the lebanese, ask the bahrainis, qataris, the Omanis.
Because Iran is a symbol of dignity and honor
Because Iran, is an ancient civilization of more than 5000years old, a arising superpower in a region the US presume they (US) are the only dominant power.

Baxilexi:
It’s futile to parse through this silly list, but for clarity,

When did Iran develop the largest missile stockpile in the Middle East?
When did they enrich uranium upto 60%?
Who gave the Houthi’s and Hezbollah hypersonic missile?

When was $25Bn released?
When was all sanctions lifted?

Where’s the Ayatollah?
Where’s Iran’s naval fleet?
Where’s their fighter jets?

The unpatriotic nuisances of democrats are the only reason why write ups like this exists. If Trump has half the power of Xi jinpin, Putin, Netanyahu or Kim, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

The extremists love leftists, bunch of useful idiots.

America should remember, their constitution is not a suicide pact, they have real enemies that wish to see them bleed.

so u believe cnn that Iran navy was obliterated, chai the same navy that sent its mosquito fleet that hit gerald ford from more than seven flanks just before the deal was made, the same navy that shot down the 2 2 abi Apache after the mid term in November trump should try them again and see I wouldn’t blame you. Too much American war movies

Many Nigerians would say it is Trump deal that is best. They just like the man for nothing as he continues with his racist policies

LordReed:
The enrichment was increased AFTER TRUMP tore up the JCPOA, so go figure.

BTW Trump said Iran is allowed to have missile so go talk to him.

Before the JPCOA was signed , Iran had already started violating it
Do you want to know how?

Tell them.

nobilie:
Iran plants and sponsors terrorists round the world. During Buhari's govt, heavy shipments of arms came from Iran to Nigeria moved to the north. It was cos of Iran's shipments that the terrorist govt of buhari created dry port in Kaduna.
Iran and Turkey can not be separated from terror in nigeria

tanigororo:
Point out 5 intelligent people who use your criteria above to count Americas winning?

must you wait for intelligent people to know that Iran lost it completely. Are you not intelligent enough to know that all their leaders who were hell bent in going against Americans decisions are no more, and the next leaders will be very careful in going against American any day.

Asmanthinket:
must you wait for intelligent people to know that Iran lost it completely. Are you not intelligent enough to know that all their leaders who were hell bent in going against Americans decisions are no more, and the next leaders will be very careful in going against American any day.

If killing an 80 years old man is called winning, you need a review of your life.

Trump has made it clear that Iran is not getting a dime . So keep massaging your ego.

But Trump has no deal naau

HacheNoire:
Nairaland wannabe’s will be here shortly to tell us how Trump’s deal is better!

Trump is an idi*t but you guys are comparing apples abd oranges. When Obama made his deal Iran had everything. When Trump made his deal Iran had lost everything except attacking ships on Hormuz, including all her leaders. Also note Trump's statement below about the 60 days

Baxilexi:
It’s futile to parse through this silly list, but for clarity,

When did Iran develop the largest missile stockpile in the Middle East?
When did they enrich uranium upto 60%?
Who gave the Houthi’s and Hezbollah hypersonic missile?

When was $25Bn released?
When was all sanctions lifted?

Where’s the Ayatollah?
Where’s Iran’s naval fleet?
Where’s their fighter jets?

The unpatriotic nuisances of democrats are the only reason why write ups like this exists. If Trump has half the power of Xi jinpin, Putin, Netanyahu or Kim, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

The extremists love leftists, bunch of useful idiots.

America should remember, their constitution is not a suicide pact, they have real enemies that wish to see them bleed.

No mind them

MrPresident1:
The question is what is the American obsession with Iran? Why is Iran the centre point of american foreign policy such that every president that comes must seek to pacify the Iranians?

What is so special about Iran that makes American so concerned about them all the time?

Iran is like a cancer..
If left will spread to other part of the body.. no treatment but it can be managed

LordReed:
The enrichment was increased AFTER TRUMP tore up the JCPOA, so go figure.

BTW Trump said Iran is allowed to have missile so go talk to him.

He doesn't know bro , many of them are ignorant, Israel is screaming that the deal is bad , one Nigerian in a village is patting trumps back for a job well done

Donald Trump trumps Obama

Obama. Nairaland men who like kissing Trump's bum will say Trump.

basilico:
If Iran had obeyed the JPCOA agrreement, full compliance through Year 10 would have resulted in the following outcomes.
1.
Lifting of Centrifuge Manufacturing Bans
Iran would have been legally permitted to drastically upgrade its enrichment technology.Advanced Production: The strict cap on manufacturing advanced centrifuges would expire. Iran could begin building complete, highly efficient IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges at a rate of up to 200 machines per year.
Infrastructure Upgrades:
Iran would gain the right to install the necessary infrastructure at its Natanz facility to support these rapid-enrichment cascades.

2. Full Termination of UN and EU Nuclear Sanctions
October 18, 2025, was designated as "Termination Day" under UN Security Council Resolution 2231. Had Iran complied:
UN Security Council Exit: The United Nations would have officially closed Iran’s nuclear file and removed it from the Security Council agenda.
Permanent Sanctions Relief: All remaining UN and European Union nuclear-related economic and architectural sanctions would have been permanently lifted, rather than just suspended.
3.
Expiration of the "Snapback" Mechanism
The JCPOA’s controversial snapback mechanism—which allowed any original participant to unilaterally reinstate sweeping UN sanctions if Iran violated the deal—was bound by a strict 10-year expiration date. After October 2025, Western powers would have lost the ability to bypass a UN Security Council veto to punish Iran with automated international sanctions.

4. Transition toward a "Nuclear Threshold State
"While Iran would still be bound by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) prohibiting actual weaponization, the lifting of the 10-year caps would have significantly shortened its "breakout time" (the time required to enrich enough weapon-grade uranium for a bomb).
Critics argued this timeline would allow Iran to legally scale up its enrichment capacity to an industrial level, effectively solidifying its status as a recognized nuclear threshold



Stop your propaganda. Today had they obeyed the deal Iran would be free to enrich Uranium to whatever level, free from sanctions.
Today they would egally have a nuclear bomb

Obama gave them a pathway to the nuclear bomb carefully tying the hands of the international community after 10 years. I can tell you for a fact, there was not a single good thing in the deal . Not a single one.It was to be a total capitulation after 10 years .

Trump has bombed those centrifuges they built. The negotiated settlement denands Iran to hand over all the 440 kg of the 60% HEU to America .
There is no pathway to the bomb in the proposed negotiations simple
As for the money Iran recieved an immediate cash $1.7 billion in pallets it's annual oil exports are around $45 billiom.

Ok

MrEar:
Trump's deal looks way much better and smarter according to intelligent nairaland geopolitics first class expert PhD professors.

Dis ur comment na n dem deh call" See it all'

tanigororo:
If killing an 80 years old man is called winning, you need a review of your life.

is it only an 80 years old man you saw in the killing? Didn't you see that all their leaders and scientists have gone? The worst is that the 80years old man was so foolish that he died with all his children. Even the one that is believed to be alive is no where to been seen
You think it is easy to get back all the lost leaders with the same belief system? Infact Iran lost big timr
You guys should stop encouraging yourselves

Baxilexi:
It’s futile to parse through this silly list, but for clarity,

When did Iran develop the largest missile stockpile in the Middle East?
When did they enrich uranium upto 60%?
Who gave the Houthi’s and Hezbollah hypersonic missile?

When was $25Bn released?
When was all sanctions lifted?

Where’s the Ayatollah?
Where’s Iran’s naval fleet?
Where’s their fighter jets?

The unpatriotic nuisances of democrats are the only reason why write ups like this exists. If Trump has half the power of Xi jinpin, Putin, Netanyahu or Kim, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

The extremists love leftists, bunch of useful idiots.

America should remember, their constitution is not a suicide pact, they have real enemies that wish to see them bleed.

You’re just being disingenuous and dishonest because they enriched to 60% in 2021 specifically because Trump cancelled Obama’s JCPOA in 2018 (a year after getting into office). Which means they waited for him to change his mind all through his first term which ended in January of 2021. We now all know that he didn’t, so again that was his fault.

I said you’re being disingenuous because I’m sure you were thinking just because they enriched to 60% in 2021 then it must have been Biden’s fault but we’re not all dumb. Trump’s first presidency actually ended in January of 2021.

So the new US-syria/Venezuela relationship he established was installing a known terrorist to rule Syria and kidnap a sovereign president?

Wow, the double standards!

Baxilexi:
I couldn’t agree more only unintelligent people use a different criteria;

He singlehanded brought in the largest investment into the American economy before the war;

Established a new US-Syria/venezuela relationship;

Best stock market performance in years;

Currently sells the most oil globally;

Forced Europe and Asia to pay higher tariffs;

Cut back on government spending internationally;

Brought the World Cup to the US and pegged tickets at the highest ever sold in the history of the came and yet stadia are full (in the worst economy ever)

This is on the home front.


While IRGC apologists may attempt to twist the narrative that Iran is doing well, they’re suffering, badly. The only difference is Americans have a very low threshold for pain. Buying knicks tickets for $5000-50,000 in a terrible economy but $5 gas at the station is a massive inconvenience.
Note; Nigeria a poor country also paid the global rate for energy prices.

The IRGC may be breathing but it’s breathing its last; its lieutenants in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq are dwindling fast. The ideology is fading and Trump has woken up Europe. The UK has proscribed Palestinian protest as a crime something they were formerly scared to do because of external threats.

In all the propaganda, remember, an MOU is not a pact or a treaty. At this point it’s a let’s sit down and yap. 1 cent hasn’t been given to the IRGC.

By the time the JPCOA was being signed ,they had already started to assemble faster centrifuges on a scale larger than necessary to get to 3.7%
The jcpoa agreement was stupid. IAEA inspectors had to give a 24 day notice to inspect any plant. Iran simply declared that some facilities were national security installations and blocked the inspectors totally. Else within 24 days Iran could easily hide whatever they were doing.

EnkayDezign:
You’re just being disingenuous and dishonest because they enriched to 60% in 2021 specifically because Trump cancelled Obama’s JCPOA in 2018 (a year after getting into office). Which means they waited for him to change his mind all through his first term which ended in January of 2021. We now all know that he didn’t, so again that was his fault.

I said you’re being disingenuous because I’m sure you were thinking just because they enriched to 60% in 2021 then it must have been Biden’s fault but we’re not all dumb. Trump’s first presidency actually ended in January of 2021.

Iran aiwats looks for an excuse to break any agreement. Hezbollah attacks Israel, which retaliates Iran cancel the swiss talks
It's a pattern that the blind can see

EnkayDezign:
You’re just being disingenuous and dishonest because they enriched to 60% in 2021 specifically because Trump cancelled Obama’s JCPOA in 2018 (a year after getting into office). Which means they waited for him to change his mind all through his first term which ended in January of 2021. We now all know that he didn’t, so again that was his fault.

I said you’re being disingenuous because I’m sure you were thinking just because they enriched to 60% in 2021 then it must have been Biden’s fault but we’re not all dumb. Trump’s first presidency actually ended in January of 2021.

I don’t have the strength to source the information but the UN nuclear watchdog had reported that Iran was not complying with inspection routines and had broken the agreement.

Enriching from 3-60% isn’t a matter of months but years. You may wish to research this.