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Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op): 5:56am On Jun 24
There is a popular saying: "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Although the quote is often attributed to George Carlin, its true origin remains uncertain. Carlo M. Cipolla perhaps expressed the idea more accurately when he wrote: "Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals."

In many ways, Nigeria seems to illustrate this point. Some may find that statement offensive, but uncomfortable truths often provoke discomfort before reflection.

Nigerians are a fascinating people. Not all, but many appear trapped in a cycle of political self-sabotage. They repeatedly elect leaders whose policies they later criticize, then lament the resulting economic and social hardships. It raises an important question: why do people continue supporting systems and politicians that consistently fail to improve their lives?

Psychology recognizes a phenomenon in which individuals repeatedly engage in behaviors that harm their own interests. While it would be inaccurate to clinically diagnose an entire population, one cannot ignore the tendency among many Nigerians to support political choices that repeatedly produce disappointing outcomes.

The issue becomes even more interesting when discussing leadership and regional development. The South-East, despite its challenges, has demonstrated remarkable resilience and progress in several areas. Yet many Nigerians, particularly in parts of the North and South-West, appear reluctant to embrace the possibility of leadership emerging from that region.

Whether justified or not, there remains a deep-seated skepticism toward Igbo political leadership. Ironically, many indicators suggest that the South-East has consistently produced examples of innovation, enterprise, and community-driven development.

To understand this, one only needs to visit many South-Eastern cities and communities. Compare the level of organization, cleanliness, and infrastructure in cities such as Owerri, Enugu, Aba, Onitsha, and Umuahia with many urban centers elsewhere in the country.

During a recent visit to Owerri, I observed a level of order that stood out. Traffic violations were less common, public spaces appeared cleaner, and street disorder seemed less prevalent than in many larger cities. Enugu State's efforts to modernize revenue collection and promote technology-driven governance have also attracted attention. Abia State has pursued ambitious digitalization projects and infrastructure development, while the region as a whole continues to invest heavily in education and entrepreneurship.

Historically, the South-East has distinguished itself in educational achievement. Schools from the region have repeatedly excelled in national and international competitions, particularly in mathematics, science, and technology. Literacy rates across several South-Eastern states rank among the highest in the country.

Economically, the region has shown remarkable resilience. Much of its development has been driven not by federal intervention but by private enterprise, community investment, and a culture that emphasizes hard work and self-reliance. The entrepreneurial spirit of the Igbo people is widely recognized throughout Nigeria and beyond.

Security is another area often highlighted. While no region is completely free from security challenges, several studies and reports have ranked the South-East favorably compared to other parts of the country in terms of human security and social stability.

Urbanization data has also shown the South-East to be among the most rapidly urbanizing regions in Nigeria. Cities continue to expand, commercial activity remains vibrant, and economic networks stretch across the country and beyond.

What makes this progress particularly noteworthy is the culture of accountability that exists in many communities. Political leaders often face intense scrutiny from citizens who expect visible performance. In many areas, public office is viewed as a responsibility that must produce measurable results rather than merely confer status.

This raises an important question: why do many Nigerians remain hesitant about national leadership emerging from the South-East? If leadership should be judged by competence, development outcomes, and administrative performance, then every region should be evaluated fairly and objectively.

Nigeria has been led by politicians from different regions for decades. Yet many of the country's most pressing problems—poverty, insecurity, unemployment, poor infrastructure, and weak institutions—remain unresolved. It is therefore reasonable to ask whether alternative leadership perspectives deserve a genuine opportunity.

Supporters of Peter Obi often point to his tenure as governor of Anambra State, citing improvements in education, healthcare, fiscal management, and security. Whether one agrees with his politics or not, many acknowledge that his record offers measurable achievements worthy of discussion.

Ultimately, democracy functions best when voters evaluate leaders based on competence, integrity, vision, and results rather than ethnicity, religion, or historical prejudice. Nigeria's future depends not on which ethnic group produces the next leader, but on whether citizens are willing to prioritize performance over sentiment.

The real question is not whether an Igbo person should lead Nigeria. The real question is whether Nigerians are prepared to embrace leadership that delivers results, regardless of where it comes from.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by CharlesCNG: 6:13am On Jun 24
ariesbull:
There is a popular saying: "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Although the quote is often attributed to George Carlin, its true origin remains uncertain. Carlo M. Cipolla perhaps expressed the idea more accurately when he wrote: "Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals."

In many ways, Nigeria seems to illustrate this point. Some may find that statement offensive, but uncomfortable truths often provoke discomfort before reflection.

Nigerians are a fascinating people. Not all, but many appear trapped in a cycle of political self-sabotage. They repeatedly elect leaders whose policies they later criticize, then lament the resulting economic and social hardships. It raises an important question: why do people continue supporting systems and politicians that consistently fail to improve their lives?

Psychology recognizes a phenomenon in which individuals repeatedly engage in behaviors that harm their own interests. While it would be inaccurate to clinically diagnose an entire population, one cannot ignore the tendency among many Nigerians to support political choices that repeatedly produce disappointing outcomes.

The issue becomes even more interesting when discussing leadership and regional development. The South-East, despite its challenges, has demonstrated remarkable resilience and progress in several areas. Yet many Nigerians, particularly in parts of the North and South-West, appear reluctant to embrace the possibility of leadership emerging from that region.

Whether justified or not, there remains a deep-seated skepticism toward Igbo political leadership. Ironically, many indicators suggest that the South-East has consistently produced examples of innovation, enterprise, and community-driven development.

To understand this, one only needs to visit many South-Eastern cities and communities. Compare the level of organization, cleanliness, and infrastructure in cities such as Owerri, Enugu, Aba, Onitsha, and Umuahia with many urban centers elsewhere in the country.

During a recent visit to Owerri, I observed a level of order that stood out. Traffic violations were less common, public spaces appeared cleaner, and street disorder seemed less prevalent than in many larger cities. Enugu State's efforts to modernize revenue collection and promote technology-driven governance have also attracted attention. Abia State has pursued ambitious digitalization projects and infrastructure development, while the region as a whole continues to invest heavily in education and entrepreneurship.

Historically, the South-East has distinguished itself in educational achievement. Schools from the region have repeatedly excelled in national and international competitions, particularly in mathematics, science, and technology. Literacy rates across several South-Eastern states rank among the highest in the country.

Economically, the region has shown remarkable resilience. Much of its development has been driven not by federal intervention but by private enterprise, community investment, and a culture that emphasizes hard work and self-reliance. The entrepreneurial spirit of the Igbo people is widely recognized throughout Nigeria and beyond.

Security is another area often highlighted. While no region is completely free from security challenges, several studies and reports have ranked the South-East favorably compared to other parts of the country in terms of human security and social stability.

Urbanization data has also shown the South-East to be among the most rapidly urbanizing regions in Nigeria. Cities continue to expand, commercial activity remains vibrant, and economic networks stretch across the country and beyond.

What makes this progress particularly noteworthy is the culture of accountability that exists in many communities. Political leaders often face intense scrutiny from citizens who expect visible performance. In many areas, public office is viewed as a responsibility that must produce measurable results rather than merely confer status.

This raises an important question: why do many Nigerians remain hesitant about national leadership emerging from the South-East? If leadership should be judged by competence, development outcomes, and administrative performance, then every region should be evaluated fairly and objectively.

Nigeria has been led by politicians from different regions for decades. Yet many of the country's most pressing problems—poverty, insecurity, unemployment, poor infrastructure, and weak institutions—remain unresolved. It is therefore reasonable to ask whether alternative leadership perspectives deserve a genuine opportunity.

Supporters of Peter Obi often point to his tenure as governor of Anambra State, citing improvements in education, healthcare, fiscal management, and security. Whether one agrees with his politics or not, many acknowledge that his record offers measurable achievements worthy of discussion.

Ultimately, democracy functions best when voters evaluate leaders based on competence, integrity, vision, and results rather than ethnicity, religion, or historical prejudice. Nigeria's future depends not on which ethnic group produces the next leader, but on whether citizens are willing to prioritize performance over sentiment.

The real question is not whether an Igbo person should lead Nigeria. The real question is whether Nigerians are prepared to embrace leadership that delivers results, regardless of where it comes from.
Merit, Not Mythmaking: A Response to “Will Igbo Make A Good President? by CharlesCNG

That article tries to sound objective, but it quietly slips into the very ethnic romanticism it claims to rise above.

Its first problem is tone. Once you begin by insulting Nigerians as politically self-sabotaging and then imply that hesitation about an Igbo presidency is proof of irrationality, you are no longer making a calm democratic argument. You are talking down to the people you want to persuade. That is not statesmanship. That is condescension with keyboard polish.

Its second problem is logic. A visit to Owerri or admiration for Aba’s enterprise does not settle the question of presidential fitness. Regional resilience, commercial energy, and private initiative are admirable, but they do not automatically translate into national leadership capacity. Regions do not contest elections. Individuals do.

Its third problem is selective evidence. On literacy, even the broad Nigerian data often cited does not simply crown the South East. A UNESCO summary of Nigerian literacy data says Lagos led adult literacy in the referenced survey. On security, the South East is not the uncomplicated success story the article suggests. Reuters reported that sit-at-home enforcement linked to separatist actors has been associated with over 700 deaths since 2021, alongside serious instability in places like Imo.

The real issue, then, is simple: Nigerians do not need ethnic advertising. They need proof of judgment, coalition-building, national balance, and executive temperament. If Peter Obi wants to be president, let him be defended on those grounds. Not on soft claims of regional exceptionalism.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by lawani(m): 6:16am On Jun 24
Most SE states have refused to generate revenue
Kano state too has refused to generate revenue
Both rely largely on the FG

Kano state has a higher population than the SE states

First quarter 2026 Kano collected like 76 billion
First quarter 2026 the SE collected over 245 billion

From these figures the SE will have more schools built, more hospitals, more roads and even the IQ of the children will be higher

The only way Kano can measure up is to generate their own revenue as Lagos is doing. Lagos measure up only because they generate revenue

Meanwhile no SE state is generating revenue apart from Enugu. They rely on federal allocations gotten largely from VAT and CIT and some oil and gas

Then nobody is blocking the SE from being President or who exactly? Is it Tinubu? Or Atiku? Nobody stopped anyone from contesting elections and even if only through sympathy votes an Igbo man will become President if Nigeria does not break up
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by helinues:
South East should have been an Eldorado by now.

Some questions should be logical

He who wants to dash us clothes should allow us to see their wardrobe first
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by chopnaira: 6:38am On Jun 24
Haven't read so much BS in a while. Lol
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by chopnaira: 6:40am On Jun 24
lawani:
Most SE states have refused to generate revenue
Kano state too has refused to generate revenue
Both rely largely on the FG

Kano state has a higher population than the SE states

First quarter 2026 Kano collected like 76 billion
First quarter 2026 the SE collected over 245 billion

From these figures the SE will have more schools built, more hospitals, more roads and even the IQ of the children will be higher

The only way Kano can measure up is to generate their own revenue as Lagos is doing. Lagos measure up only because they generate revenue

Meanwhile no SE state is generating revenue apart from Enugu. They rely on federal allocations gotten largely from VAT and CIT and some oil and gas

Then nobody is blocking the SE from being President or who exactly? Is it Tinubu? Or Atiku? Nobody stopped anyone from contesting elections and even if only through sympathy votes an Igbo man will become President if Nigeria does not break up
Let me help you with data jare.

Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by helinues: 6:42am On Jun 24
chopnaira:
Let me help you with data jare.
Your attached statistics is even a long thing

Ordinary SEDC funds, how have they been managing it. Imagine claiming they rent a single office in Abuja for N150m per annum.

Region funds oo
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by chopnaira: 6:44am On Jun 24
helinues:
Your attached statistics is even a long thing

Ordinary SEDC funds, how have they been managing it. Imagine claiming they rent a single office in Abuja for N150m per annum.

Region funds oo
Yes. I forgot that one too.

Just yesterday, Abians were celebrating a traffic light on X.
We have seen them celebrating streetlight and fountain recently.

OP is trying to paint the SE as an Eldorado being governed by some advanced people grin due to his ethnic bias. However, data, migration pattern from lack of opportunties, videos, pictures, reports e.t.c. coming out of the region says otherwise.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by madridguy(m): 6:57am On Jun 24
Can we have the record of Nnamdi Azikwe and Ironsi ? We need to know their achievements as presidents.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by garykoeman: 7:04am On Jun 24
When they were made senate president, the position was rotated among the five states as a result of one corruption or the other.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by duro4chang(m): 7:52am On Jun 24
Igbo was the first president of Nigeria, the first military Head of state, the first president of Senate . Igbo have produced many senate presidents. Speaker of House of Reps. Igbo have been military governors as well as civilian governors. Have they performed better than other tribes? You can use that one to determine.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op): 8:46am On Jun 24
The issue is that the South East has shown growth and purposeful leadership in all indices

You can't compare Imo and EKITI
You can't compare Anambra and Osun
You can't compare Abia and Ogun
You can't even compare Ebonyi and Ondo

I'm yes of development and built up ... Let's start from villages of Igbo land and that of Yoruba land the truth of the matter is that the East has been able to build themselves


You know the era of propaganda is gone... the South East Region is the most developed, the most educated and safest and these facts are everywhere there is nothing to argue ! Internet is here and the era of lies are gone

So much questions is why don't you allow those that have demonstrated capacity to lead and develop from leading you....

It still boils down ... DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF STUPID PEOPLE IN GRRAT NUMBERS....Nigeria is just a typical of that example

Look at stats

No be chocho cho

And have you asked why Easterners and their region are less effected by Nigerian troubles ? They have built a robust ecosystem from civil till now

CharlesCNG:
Merit, Not Mythmaking: A Response to “Will Igbo Make A Good President? by CharlesCNG

That article tries to sound objective, but it quietly slips into the very ethnic romanticism it claims to rise above.

Its first problem is tone. Once you begin by insulting Nigerians as politically self-sabotaging and then imply that hesitation about an Igbo presidency is proof of irrationality, you are no longer making a calm democratic argument. You are talking down to the people you want to persuade. That is not statesmanship. That is condescension with keyboard polish.

Its second problem is logic. A visit to Owerri or admiration for Aba’s enterprise does not settle the question of presidential fitness. Regional resilience, commercial energy, and private initiative are admirable, but they do not automatically translate into national leadership capacity. Regions do not contest elections. Individuals do.

Its third problem is selective evidence. On literacy, even the broad Nigerian data often cited does not simply crown the South East. A UNESCO summary of Nigerian literacy data says Lagos led adult literacy in the referenced survey. On security, the South East is not the uncomplicated success story the article suggests. Reuters reported that sit-at-home enforcement linked to separatist actors has been associated with over 700 deaths since 2021, alongside serious instability in places like Imo.

The real issue, then, is simple: Nigerians do not need ethnic advertising. They need proof of judgment, coalition-building, national balance, and executive temperament. If Peter Obi wants to be president, let him be defended on those grounds. Not on soft claims of regional exceptionalism.

Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by Kalashnikov49: 8:47am On Jun 24
Tinubu As a Yoruba president has failed woefully


CharlesCNG:
Merit, Not Mythmaking: A Response to “Will Igbo Make A Good President? by CharlesCNG

That article tries to sound objective, but it quietly slips into the very ethnic romanticism it claims to rise above.

Its first problem is tone. Once you begin by insulting Nigerians as politically self-sabotaging and then imply that hesitation about an Igbo presidency is proof of irrationality, you are no longer making a calm democratic argument. You are talking down to the people you want to persuade. That is not statesmanship. That is condescension with keyboard polish.

Its second problem is logic. A visit to Owerri or admiration for Aba’s enterprise does not settle the question of presidential fitness. Regional resilience, commercial energy, and private initiative are admirable, but they do not automatically translate into national leadership capacity. Regions do not contest elections. Individuals do.

Its third problem is selective evidence. On literacy, even the broad Nigerian data often cited does not simply crown the South East. A UNESCO summary of Nigerian literacy data says Lagos led adult literacy in the referenced survey. On security, the South East is not the uncomplicated success story the article suggests. Reuters reported that sit-at-home enforcement linked to separatist actors has been associated with over 700 deaths since 2021, alongside serious instability in places like Imo.

The real issue, then, is simple: Nigerians do not need ethnic advertising. They need proof of judgment, coalition-building, national balance, and executive temperament. If Peter Obi wants to be president, let him be defended on those grounds. Not on soft claims of regional exceptionalism.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by Kalashnikov49: 8:49am On Jun 24
Gbam

grin

ariesbull:
The issue is that the South East has shown growth and purposeful leadership in all indices

You can't compare Imo and EKITI
You can't compare Anambra and Osun
You can't compare Abia and Ogun
You can't even compare Ebonyi and Ondo

I'm yes of development and built up ... Let's start from villages of Igbo land and that of Yoruba land the truth of the matter is that the East has been able to build themselves


You know the era of propaganda is gone... the South East Region is the most developed, the most educated and safest and these facts are everywhere there is nothing to argue ! Internet is here and the era of lies are gone

So much questions is why don't you allow those that have demonstrated capacity to lead and develop from leading you....

It still boils down ... DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF STUPID PEOPLE IN GRRAT NUMBERS....Nigeria is just a typical of that example

Look at stats

No be chocho cho

And have you asked why Easterners and their region are less effected by Nigerian troubles ? They have built a robust ecosystem from civil till now
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op): 8:49am On Jun 24
And now that the senate president hasn't been rotated what do we have today? The most docile and servitude senate! It's just a shame !

Can you use this one now to compare with a Whole CHUBA OKADIGBO....OYI 1 OF OYI or compare Evans Enwerem with this present one ..... Singing on your mandate !

Oga give it to Igbo.... They have class and doings! When Igbo was senate president there were things

When Igbo helped Obasanjo and Jonathan run the economy ..we saw development ! We have always known that Igbo are good managers ..look at how they manage businesses and their states !

Compare that with Yoruba states that are seriously indebted and low development...

Why don't you follow who knows road


garykoeman:
When they were made senate president, the position was rotated among the five states as a result of one corruption or the other.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by Kalashnikov49: 8:50am On Jun 24
Answer the facts stated and dont run from thread.

CharlesCNG:
Merit, Not Mythmaking: A Response to “Will Igbo Make A Good President? by CharlesCNG

That article tries to sound objective, but it quietly slips into the very ethnic romanticism it claims to rise above.

Its first problem is tone. Once you begin by insulting Nigerians as politically self-sabotaging and then imply that hesitation about an Igbo presidency is proof of irrationality, you are no longer making a calm democratic argument. You are talking down to the people you want to persuade. That is not statesmanship. That is condescension with keyboard polish.

Its second problem is logic. A visit to Owerri or admiration for Aba’s enterprise does not settle the question of presidential fitness. Regional resilience, commercial energy, and private initiative are admirable, but they do not automatically translate into national leadership capacity. Regions do not contest elections. Individuals do.

Its third problem is selective evidence. On literacy, even the broad Nigerian data often cited does not simply crown the South East. A UNESCO summary of Nigerian literacy data says Lagos led adult literacy in the referenced survey. On security, the South East is not the uncomplicated success story the article suggests. Reuters reported that sit-at-home enforcement linked to separatist actors has been associated with over 700 deaths since 2021, alongside serious instability in places like Imo.

The real issue, then, is simple: Nigerians do not need ethnic advertising. They need proof of judgment, coalition-building, national balance, and executive temperament. If Peter Obi wants to be president, let him be defended on those grounds. Not on soft claims of regional exceptionalism.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by Kalashnikov49: 8:52am On Jun 24
Una don cast... grin

garykoeman:
When they were made senate president, the position was rotated among the five states as a result of one corruption or the other.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op): 8:52am On Jun 24
It's just glaring and the economy managed by the Yoruba has failed woefully with hyper inflation and highest insecurity in the land

when General Ihejirika was COAS he dealt work Boko Haram decidedly and decisively that the NORTH Started crying now he is not there ....Generals are kidnapped! You can imagine CIVILIANS even if they call them bandits kidnapping Generals

It's just shameful !

Kalashnikov49:
Tinubu As a Yoruba president has failed woefully
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by Kalashnikov49: 8:55am On Jun 24
Let them celebrate whatever...

Atleast they are at peace while your aunty is in the bush .. grin


chopnaira:
Yes. I forgot that one too.

Just yesterday, Abians were celebrating a traffic light on X.
We have seen them celebrating streetlight and fountain recently.

OP is trying to paint the SE as an Eldorado being governed by some advanced people grin due to his ethnic bias. However, data, migration pattern from lack of opportunties, videos, pictures, reports e.t.c. coming out of the region says otherwise.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op): 8:56am On Jun 24
madridguy:
Can we have the record of Nnamdi Azikwe and Ironsi ? We need to know their achievements as presidents.
Don't be intellectually lazy ! I don't know what is wrong with Nigerians and been spoon-fed. A simple hoígoe search will help you

But wait let me do am intro


Between 1954 and 1964, the Old Eastern Region of Nigeria was widely recognized as one of the fastest-growing and industrializing economies in the world, outpacing many regions in Asia. This golden era of development was driven by purposeful leadership, massive investments in education, and a balanced focus on agriculture and industrialization.Key pillars of the region's rapid growth
included:

Unprecedented Industrialization: Driven by Premier Dr. Michael Okpara, the region aggressively expanded industries, establishing major factories like the Michelin Tyre Factory in Port Harcourt. By 1963, the Eastern Region recorded over 68,000 registered businesses, significantly outstripping the Western and Northern regions.Investment in Education: The Eastern government famously allocated approximately 45% of its total revenue to education, achieving mass literacy and training a skilled workforce.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op): 8:58am On Jun 24
I have been to Yoruba states..in short if you want to be to Yoruba states at least 80% of them... Travel from Lagos to Abuja you will pass Yoruba states and see how backward they are from their villages to cities

Just look at Abeokuta ...a capital of Ogundtate ,how backward it is , we don't even want to talk about Ado EKITI or Oshogbo ..


Just drive from Lagos to Abuja you will pass 80% of Yoruba states and wee signs before their wonders
chopnaira:
Yes. I forgot that one too.

Just yesterday, Abians were celebrating a traffic light on X.
We have seen them celebrating streetlight and fountain recently.

OP is trying to paint the SE as an Eldorado being governed by some advanced people grin due to his ethnic bias. However, data, migration pattern from lack of opportunties, videos, pictures, reports e.t.c. coming out of the region says otherwise.
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by Obapluto: 9:01am On Jun 24
Jonathan is Igbo. Simple. He did nothing
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by helinues: 9:01am On Jun 24
ariesbull:
I have been to Yoruba states..in short if you want to be to Yoruba states at least 80% of them... Travel from Lagos to Abuja you will pass Yoruba states and see how backward they are from their villages to cities

Just look at Abeokuta ...a capital of Ogundtate ,how backward it is , we don't even want to talk about Ado EKITI or Oshogbo ..


Just drive from Lagos to Abuja you will pass 80% of Yoruba states and wee signs before their wonders
is this thread about South West states? Why do you people always struggle to keep up with the conversation you started without being forced?

The SEDC funds, how have Igbo's been able to manage it? Is there any logical sense in renting an office space for N150m per annum?

Keep the story of being to Kanfansha and tell us how the SE elites and political leaders have been managing ordinary 5 states which some non state actors locked the region up for over 2 years
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op):
Germany generate highest revenue in Europe yet tiny Switzerland, Luxembourg, Monaco and Liechtenstein these countries have the highest standard of livings in Europe

I don't know the type of education action they offer you guys in South West... That's why South Eastern school win trophies after trophies year in and out

Generating high IGR isn't correlations with development

South West generate high IGR yet they are the most indebted in Southern Nigeria and the most indebted ... Oh Oya give excuse why debts isn't bad and I will tell you why USA is fighting hard to ensure that oil is being sold in dollars

The South-South and South-West geopolitical zones are typically the most heavily indebted regions in Nigeria at the sub-national level. These two regions collectively account for the majority of state-level domestic and external debt

I don't know how the South West manage their economy... Very poor economic managers... Just look at where we are today
lawani:
Most SE states have refused to generate revenue
Kano state too has refused to generate revenue
Both rely largely on the FG

Kano state has a higher population than the SE states

First quarter 2026 Kano collected like 76 billion
First quarter 2026 the SE collected over 245 billion

From these figures the SE will have more schools built, more hospitals, more roads and even the IQ of the children will be higher

The only way Kano can measure up is to generate their own revenue as Lagos is doing. Lagos measure up only because they generate revenue

Meanwhile no SE state is generating revenue apart from Enugu. They rely on federal allocations gotten largely from VAT and CIT and some oil and gas

Then nobody is blocking the SE from being President or who exactly? Is it Tinubu? Or Atiku? Nobody stopped anyone from contesting elections and even if only through sympathy votes an Igbo man will become President if Nigeria does not break up

Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op): 9:11am On Jun 24
No and yes we are doing comparative analysis a s we have seen how Nigerians keep reinforcing failures and ineptitude

You don't give what you don't have ... Some regions lack the capacity to lead when you look at how far they have come in terms of economic and human capacity indexes... Charity should begin at home

When your region is high in indebtedness, insecurity, low education and others why don't you fix your region before you start thinking of being president !

The only regions that are trying in Southern Nigeria or even Nigeria are only South East and Niger Delta

North is a mess... Wtheu should even clean up their Jones and region stabilise it before they should be thinking of presenting themselves for national leadership....ATIKU is wasting his time !


South West we have also seen they are the most backward in southern Nigeria ,remove Lagos that wa former capital for decades ..northing is in that region

Just like North they should clean up their region.....the Igbo took time to build their regions to what it is today....stats are there , pictures are there , cities are there , sta dards id loving it there also....UN reports are there also
helinues:
is this thread about South West states? Why do you people always struggle to keep up with the conversation you started without being forced?

The SEDC funds, how have Igbo's been able to manage it? Is there any logical sense in renting an office space for N150m per annum?

Keep the story of being to Kanfansha and tell us how the SE elites and political leaders have been managing ordinary 5 states which some non state actors locked the region up for over 2 years
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by helinues: 9:11am On Jun 24
ariesbull:
Germany generate highest revenue in Europe yet tiny Switzerland, Luxembourg, Monaco and Liechtenstein these countries have the highest standard of livings in Europe

I don't know the type of education action they offer you guys in South West... That's why South Eastern school win trophies after trophies year in and out

Generating high IGR isn't correlations with development

South West generate high IGR yet they are the most jaciwarcrehiin in Southern Nigeria and the most indebted ...

The South-South and South-West geopolitical zones are typically the most heavily indebted regions in Nigeria at the sub-national level. These two regions collectively account for the majority of state-level domestic and external debt

I don't know how the South West manage their economy... Very poor economic managers... Just look at where we are today
Your people shouldn't have been relocating enmass to the same mismanaged SW if we are to go by your assertion.

Ask yourself, how many of your rich man are living permanently in the region? Have things be working in the region, why would the indigenes be deserting enmass as if something is pursuing them?
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by helinues: 9:13am On Jun 24
ariesbull:
No and yes we are doing comparative analysis a s we have seen how Nigerians keep reinforcing failures and ineptitude

You don't give what you don't have ... Some regions lack the capacity to lead when you look at how far they have come in terms of economic and human capacity indexes... Charity should begin at home

When your region is high in indebtedness, insecurity, low education and others why don't you fix your region before you start thinking of being president !

The only regions that are trying in Southern Nigeria or even Nigeria are only South East and Niger Delta

North is a mess... Wtheu should even clean up their Jones and region stabilise it before they should be thinking of presenting themselves for national leadership....ATIKU is wasting his time !


South West we have also seen they are the most backward in southern Nigeria ,remove Lagos that wa former capital for decades ..northing is in that region

Just like North they should clean up their region.....the Igbo took time to build their regions to what it is today....stats are there , pictures are there , cities are there , sta dards id loving it there also....UN reports are there also
If your thread is basically about Igbo presidency, what's the tom dick measuring for?
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by lawani(m): 9:22am On Jun 24
ariesbull:
The issue is that the South East has shown growth and purposeful leadership in all indices

You can't compare Imo and EKITI
You can't compare Anambra and Osun
You can't compare Abia and Ogun
You can't even compare Ebonyi and Ondo

I'm yes of development and built up ... Let's start from villages of Igbo land and that of Yoruba land the truth of the matter is that the East has been able to build themselves


You know the era of propaganda is gone... the South East Region is the most developed, the most educated and safest and these facts are everywhere there is nothing to argue ! Internet is here and the era of lies are gone

So much questions is why don't you allow those that have demonstrated capacity to lead and develop from leading you....

It still boils down ... DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF STUPID PEOPLE IN GRRAT NUMBERS....Nigeria is just a typical of that example

Look at stats

No be chocho cho

And have you asked why Easterners and their region are less effected by Nigerian troubles ? They have built a robust ecosystem from civil till now
Yes you can't compare Imo and Ekiti in population but Ekiti is doing more value added production than Imo despite the lower population. That counts for something

You can compare Anambra and Osun. They are almost at par in everything from number of hotels to number of banks and etc. You can Google check and all those companies are paying salaries while according to NIN Anambra has a higher population

You can't compare Abia and Ogun. Ogun is more than double the population of Abia according to NIN and if we consider active sim cards Abia state has far less people per Capita using phones that live there. Abia is not up to Ogun by any standards. The ratio is like 2.5 to 1

Ebonyi and Ondo?
That is a total disrespect. Ijesha is half of a senatorial district in Osun state and Ebonyi is around the same development as Ijesa. It should be less developed if not because it is a state and is receiving huge allocations. Ebonyi as a whole is not as developed as Akure which is the capital of Ondo state. This is not the 1960s. You can know how developed any constituency is nowadays via Google searches.

The number of banks and hotels in Akure alone should be double the whole of Ebonyi state
Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op): 9:23am On Jun 24
chopnaira:
Let me help you with data jare.
The problem with some of you people is that you forget that we are in internet era and that all those your Lagos Ibadan expressway journalism has gone with the wind forevermore... Yoruba are the most migrants in Lagos and the stats are there



Many people believe that a state with a high Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) automatically has a high standard of living. However, this is not always true. IGR only shows how much money a state generates from taxes, levies, and other internal sources. It does not show whether the money is being used to improve the lives of the people. The comparison between Ogun State and Anambra State clearly shows that a high IGR is not always evidence of development.

Ogun State is one of the highest IGR-generating states in Nigeria because it has many industries, factories, and businesses. Its closeness to Lagos has also helped it attract investments and economic activities. Despite this impressive revenue, many residents still face challenges such as poverty, unemployment, and poor infrastructure. Several communities, especially in rural areas, lack good roads and basic amenities. Roads such as the Oja-Odan–Ijoun Road, Lisa Road, Lambe Road, Oke-Aro Road, and the Agbado–Abule-Ijoko corridor have been criticized for their poor condition. During the rainy season, some of these roads become difficult to use, affecting transportation, trade, and the daily lives of residents.

On the other hand, Anambra State generates less IGR than Ogun State, yet it is often seen as one of the most economically active and developed states in southeastern Nigeria. The state is home to thriving commercial cities such as Onitsha, Nnewi, and Awka. Onitsha is famous for having one of the largest markets in West Africa, while Nnewi is known as the industrial hub of the region. These cities are filled with businesses, markets, factories, banks, hotels, and modern buildings that create jobs and improve the standard of living of residents.

Anambra is also home to successful indigenous businesses such as Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing and many other enterprises established by local entrepreneurs. The presence of these businesses has encouraged urban development, increased employment opportunities, and improved economic activities. As a result, many parts of the state have become highly developed and densely built up.

The experiences of Ogun and Anambra States show that the amount of revenue a state generates is not the only factor that determines development. What matters most is how the available resources are managed and invested in improving the welfare of the people. A state can generate huge revenue and still have poor roads, poverty, and inadequate public services if the revenue is not effectively utilized.

In conclusion, high IGR is not always evidence of a better standard of living. While Ogun State generates more revenue, many communities still struggle with poverty and poor infrastructure. Meanwhile, Anambra State, despite generating less revenue, has achieved significant commercial growth, urban development, and improved living conditions. Therefore, development should be measured by the quality of life of the people rather than by IGR alone.

Re: Will Igbo Make A Good President? by ariesbull(op): 9:31am On Jun 24
helinues:
Your people shouldn't have been relocating enmass to the same mismanaged SW if we are to go by your assertion.

Ask yourself, how many of your rich man are living permanently in the region? Have things be working in the region, why would the indigenes be deserting enmass as if something is pursuing them?
This still boils down to the edu action standard you have in South West no wonder South Eastern schools have been taking all the awards


Now how do you know that South East are relocating en mass... When you don't have state to support that

Okay let's even assume they are relocating ...are they not Nigerians and they can live anywhere if you don't want them ... EXPEL THEM AND STFU ...TO THEIR BIAFRA .they have tons you for the past 50yrs they don't care about your Shit hole... But you people keep begging them! Please do what malaysi did to Singapore...EXPEL them ! Period or deal with them and cry forever for the being in Lagos

Now finally! We have lots of Asians in Nigeria such as Chinese , Indians and others... Does it mean that Nigeria is far better than these Asian countries ?


I still don't understand the quality of education action in South West.... They should make DEDUCTIVE REASONING a mandatory subject in that region

The way some of you reason is funny and that is why you guys keep having inept leadership from your kings to politicians

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