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| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by AngelicBeing: 3:19am On Jun 24 |
Mariangeles:Gbamsulotey, life is governed by PRINCIPLES , that is why those who are not Believers in God or Atheist, skeptics and God haters, excel or succeeed in life because they follow the Divine principles of God which they reject or don't believe in, and the principles work for whoever applies them regardless of your believe in God or not |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by QuinQQ: 3:41am On Jun 24 |
Mariangeles: AngelicBeing:Lol, it is called the Evil Eye, a basic spiritual law. Basically it says if you make people feel jealous, you must collect, one way or another. Not necessarily because the people are bad or wish you bad, it is just how it works. It is well explained here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-dvfCFTRVw?is=dxN4X8HcRMKJBxY2 |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by Hassanmaye(m): 5:44am On Jun 24 |
Dpsychologist:Lies from the pit of hell, no be Nigeria we dey? |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 5:50am On Jun 24 |
erniok:Did tou see UNPREDICTABLE EVENT in your preferred definition and then luck? And my objective is not to deny the use of word LUCK The context meaning is that you do not have any control of what happens. What you call Luck is what we call Grace BECAUSE it is SOMETHING given by God without any input from you |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by AngelicBeing: 6:27am On Jun 24 |
QuinQQ:Interesting teaching from the Rabbi. Thanks for sharing. ![]() |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by BigYash: 6:29am On Jun 24 |
kodded:Mr Hosea answer this. The richest man in Africa,is he a Christian? Being a billionaire has got nothing to do with Christianity. God blessed those who he chooses to bless,you can't force him oga. Being wealthy has principles,even an evil man will apply it,and he will be wealthy. And if that grace is upon him,boom he becomes. You being a Christian doesn't guarantee you becoming rich. |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by kodded(m): 6:55am On Jun 24 |
BigYash:The richest man in the world and the first trillionaire in history is a Christian And yes as a Christian, you are guaranteed wealth here on earth but it can only be accessible if you follow and apply the laid down rules on how to be successful 2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich. Joshua 1:8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. Psalms 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalms 1:3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. How many Christians that you know applied Joshua 1:8 and Psalm 1:2-3 and still remain poor in life? |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by BigYash: 7:04am On Jun 24 |
kodded:You are quoting Scriptures and lying. The richest person in the world is Elon Musk (CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, and xAI), and he does not identify as a Christian. Musk has described himself publicly as an atheist. Let's even start from home. Is the richest man in Africa a Christian or not? Since African seems to be more religions than the whole world. You can quote bible from Gen to rev. Answer that question first |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by kodded(m): 7:07am On Jun 24 |
BigYash:elon musk is a Christian and he us the richest man and richest african too |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by erniok(m): 8:03am On Jun 24 |
TenQ:Grace has design and was planned by God as against luck which happens unpredictably. The are 2 entirely different terms. If you say"God controls luck", I wouldn't argue but saying they are same is just n̈onsense |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by mukthar2000(m): 8:24am On Jun 24 |
Story, every Nigerians should be waiting for lucky as u advice then. Non of this inventors would aspect that government loot are kept under them to run their investment. Lucky ko Emeka niii
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| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by Ochyes: 8:25am On Jun 24 |
What he said is true. If you have played Monopoly board game and you have understand the game you can relate with him. Having opportunity, being prepared for your opportunity and taking action is really important to wealth creation. |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by BigYash: 8:50am On Jun 24 |
kodded:I am sure you have Google and chatgpt on your phone. You can do your search |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by Mattswaggz: 10:15am On Jun 24 |
ScamDemicEra:Gibberish from an ignorant mind. |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by Mrfeel: 10:52am On Jun 24 |
erniok:I know people who had every opportunity to succeed and were well prepared for it but lost it to misfortune |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by Mariangeles(f): 3:05pm On Jun 24 |
QuinQQ:Thanks for sharing this. Learned a thing or two from it. |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by Mariangeles(f): 3:07pm On Jun 24 |
AngelicBeing:Right. The gifts/blessings of God are without repentance. AngelicBeing:It happens everywhere. One just have to pray for discernment and divine protection. |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by Samueltemi337(m): 3:42pm On Jun 24 |
RealityKings1:Howfar reality |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 4:09pm On Jun 24 |
erniok:Grace is what was given to you without your effort. DJ Cuppy is a billionaire because she found herself to be the daughter of Mr Femi Otedola. Luck is still grace given to you when you assume it has nothing tp do with God's gift. |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by lawani(m): 4:23pm On Jun 24 |
TenQ:You will understand being born into any family isn't luck if you understand reincarnation and the fact that we are spirits. Spirits only incarnate in lines that they have right in. Your children are incarnates of the spirits of your ancestors or that of your wife, they can also be incarnates of members of your spiritual family in heaven. It is a close knit thing which isn't determined by luck. Your children chose you. You didn't choose them nor were they products of luck |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by erniok(m): 5:19pm On Jun 24 |
TenQ:Oga, there is effort in grace . It's just not what you laboured for (wage). You have a role to play in grace. If not not so, Paul would not say "if you believe(effort). If you do not receive (effort) grace, you won't get it. Grace has been planned by God. Luck on the other hand is not planned for by you. Just like getting on a plane and finding out the next passenger is otedola and you've been making efforts to see him without success. It was a "chanced" meeting you had no role in how it happened. You can decide to seize the moment or ignore it. Like I said earlier, God controls chance/luck as the bible shows. |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 5:28pm On Jun 24 |
lawani:Reincarnation is one of the most stupid Theology in the Universe. May I ask you this question: What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation? |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 5:36pm On Jun 24 |
erniok:Tell me What effort did DJ Cuppy put into becoming a Billionaire? Do you think its only hardworking that made Sha'Carri Richardson the best sprinter or Tiwa Savage an acclaimed Musician, or Funke Akindele a successful actor? What if each were born with Down Syndrome? What if, each died in the Womb? What if each had a mental problem? The most hardworking human beings are the poorest and most Wretched in the world. Part of Grace is ABILITY to Work and Work Hard! |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by lawani(m): 5:58pm On Jun 24 |
TenQ:There is a civilization of spirits in heaven and their primary reason of being incarnated is to generate food for sustenance in heaven. There are other reasons that may come along after the primary reason For example your primary reason for going to school is to upgrade yourself to be more relevant in the society but there are other reasons |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by lawani(m): 6:03pm On Jun 24 |
TenQ:You chose your parents but I don't even think DJ Cuppy's Dad was very rich before she was born but he was ok If one were born im becile, then that incarnation would not be eventful but not a waste still because the incarnation will still be able to generate food though not much for it's spirit. It isn't a big deal. The spirit will get food but not plentiful. |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 8:51pm On Jun 24 |
lawani:You avoided my question May I ask you this question: What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation? |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 8:56pm On Jun 24 |
lawani:The Father of of Femi Otedola (the grandfather of DJ Cuppy) was a former Governor of Lagos state and a business man. lawani:May I ask you this question: What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation for an slowpoke? What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation for a child aborted by the mother? What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation for a baby who died as a child? You still haven't answered the question! because Reincarnation is one of the most illogical explanation of existence! |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by lawani(m): 12:41am On Jun 25*. Modified: 2:02am On Jun 25 |
TenQ:Spirits don't know the integrity of a foetus and that is why we have iim beciles. When the foetus turns out to be an im becile, they often stay since they are still able to harvest food. They will get food but not as much as a fit person. It depends on the spirit, it can stay or choose to go back If a pregnancy is aborted the spirit will go back to queue. A spirit can even cause self abortion which happens when they have chosen the line they want to come through and the woman is trying to award the pregnancy to another person. You can die at anytime which does not change the primary purpose of incarnation that I already mentioned. If you are enrolled in a university it is not a must you graduate If you die young, you take whatever quantity of food you have generated as a spirit like that |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by QuinQQ: 1:12am On Jun 25*. Modified: 1:54am On Jun 25 |
Mariangeles: AngelicBeing:U quite welcome. Check out his other videos. What the videos do is keep you reminded there are actually spiritual laws; they also impact you with Jewish wisdom garnered over thousands of years |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by QuinQQ: 1:22am On Jun 25 |
Nackzy:Yeah, but what got him moving in the first place - LUCK of being born with a non-lazy, can-do spirit |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 6:17am On Jun 25 |
lawani:I know all these, but I wasn't asking you for how reincarnation takes place. . My question was about the PURPOSE or WHY or the OBJECTIVE of Reincarnation. here again is the question i've asked. What is the objective and logical PURPOSE of Reincarnation? |
| Re: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by lawani(m): 7:49am On Jun 25 |
TenQ:.But you didn't know any of it or you wouldn't have described reincarnation the way you described it. Again the primary purpose of reincarnation or incarnation in the first instance is to generate spirit food for spirit sustenance in heaven. I have repeated this a few times already |
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