₦airaland Forum

1vandragon:
Obi is not a movement. Never was, never will be.

Trying to see PO in the light of a PMB who had a cult following dedicated to him, would be missing the point of what the masses really want.

PO is simply a convenient symbol for change. A case of the best from a bad bunch.

It is the masses that provides the fuel for PO, and not the other way round.

Are there people who view PO as some sought of messiah? Certainly. And those people are probably more vocal than most. We saw it with PMB and we are seeing it with bat. OBJ, Yar' Adua and GEJ did not have such fanatic supporters who defend incompetence regardless of how obvious it is.

So, the flood or wave was never about PO. It was the people and PO was simply a beneficiary of it.

One thing is undisputed. Bat has failed. Coincidentally, his failure is also his greatest weapon. By further impoverishing the masses, it becomes easier to buy thier votes at the point of the polling booth. Vote bat and get immediate monetary rewards. It is why those who troop out massively to vote are usually the poor who live from hand to mouth and bat knows this.

Right now, all political indicies favour bat, but socio-economic that matter to the masses do not.

But one thing OP is right about, PO needs to learn to manage the support he has better.

This is a thoughtful argument, but it contains one major weakness: it romanticises the Obi vote as “the masses” without looking at where the votes actually came from.

If Obi was simply the candidate of the poor masses, why did he perform so poorly in most of the North-West, North-East and large parts of the South-West? Are there no poor people there?

In 2023, Obi’s strongest votes came from the South-East and selected Christian/minority-belt states.
He scored 584,621 in Anambra, 466,272 in Enugu, 352,904 in Imo, 341,866 in Ebonyi, and 327,095 in Abia. He also did strongly in Plateau with 466,272, Benue with 308,372, and Taraba with 146,315].

That pattern suggests identity, protest, religion and regional emotion — not simply “the masses.”

Meanwhile, in Bauchi he got 27,373, Kano 28,513, and much of the North-West/North-East gave him single-digit percentages.

So the “poor masses” theory collapses. Poor Nigerians exist everywhere, but Obi’s votes did not spread everywhere.

And what has changed since 2023? The wave has failed to become structure. Edo, Ondo, Anambra and recent bye-elections show obi influence declining sharply outside presidential emotion.

So yes, Obi was a symbol.

But symbols without structure become souvenirs. 😂

AMINDA:
By this time in 2023, virtually all Tinubu lackeys of today from the Southwest were afraid to publicly campaign for Tinubu. They were being intimated and dominated by the Obidients. Today, they are the loudest in the room after Northerners like Elrufai and co did the hard work and made Tinubu president. Well, as is typical, even Tinubu has gone ahead to betray all who made him president while rewarding the ones who insulted him all through the campaigns and made his election difficult.

"The vulture is a patient bird" - James Hardly Chase

This “El-Rufai and the North made Tinubu president” line is sweet politically, but weak arithmetically.

Let us start with Kaduna. In 2023, Atiku defeated Tinubu in Kaduna presidential election. So if El-Rufai “made” Tinubu president, why did he fail to deliver his own state? Even the Kaduna governorship election was a narrow APC survival: Uba Sani scored **730,002** against PDP’s **719,196**.

Now compare that with today. APC has since won Chikun/Kajuru Federal Constituency by-election with **34,580** votes against PDP’s **11,491**, plus victories in Zaria Kewaye and Basawa state constituencies. That is not the picture of a dead APC in Kaduna.

The bigger point is this: governors matter. Structures matter. Local chairmen, senators, reps, assembly members and ward machinery matter. Politics is not nostalgia.

The northern politicians who truly worked with Tinubu are still largely with him. Today, APC controls more northern governorship structures, including strategic states across the North-West and North-East.

As for Obi, many of his 2023 northern votes were protest and identity votes in Christian/minority belts. Those votes are not guaranteed to remain intact in 2027.

So bookmark this: Tinubu does not need to win every northern state by landslide. He needs spread, structure and competitive margins.

Atiku may have sentiment.

Obi may have noise.

But Tinubu has governors.

And in Nigerian politics, governors are not decoration. They are engines.

OredoPikin:
Wait make campaign start na

As at June 2022, who know Obi?
Everything started from August.
People were even saying he won't win a single local govt
Some said they were just 4people in a room twitting.
Even Tinubu didn't see him as a threat until very close to the election.
Atiku was asked about him and his reply was he can't use LP to go anywhere and that interview was even in October 2022.
So don't rejoice yet

Like I keep telling u guys but u dont want to listen
Tinubu performance would have been the only thing that could have silence Obi.
In fact, giving Nigerians that 247 electricity he promised would have ended all oppositions.
But he failed in all
Obi is now at an advantage like never before.
Some People voted Tinubu then because of he built Lagos propaganda and want to see what he will do nationally
My landlord na Yoruba Muslim
Immediately Tinubu was swore in, there was nothing he didn't say.
All the praises in this world he heaped on Tinubu
The expectation and everything.
Just 3yrs after, go and ask the same man about tinubu
He will clearly tell you Tinubu is a disappointment but I will still vote him because he is my tribe man.
Let him just finish our turn and get out.

My brother, the biggest flaw in your argument is that you assume 2027 will be a replay of 2023.

It won't.

2023 and 2027 are different universes.

In 2023, Obi was the new product on the shelf. Many people had not examined it closely. The novelty was the attraction.

By 2027, the wrapper has been opened.

People have now had four years to examine the content.

That changes everything.

You say nobody knew Obi in June 2022. Correct.

That was his advantage.

Nobody had tested his claims, contradictions or competence.

Today, Nigerians have heard Obi promise 10,000MW without explaining the funding, transmission plan, gas supply, timelines or execution model.

They watched him condemn “structures of criminality,” only to later embrace the same old political actors when it became convenient.

They have seen him hop from one platform to another while asking Nigerians to trust his stability.

They have watched Labour Party fracture under his watch.

They have seen allies, spokesmen and supporters drift away.

Most importantly, they have seen that behind the fine slogans is a weak, confused and reactive leadership style.

The mystery is gone.

Second, it is funny how you accuse Yorubas of supporting Tinubu because he is Yoruba, but somehow the overwhelming support Obi receives from Igbos is always presented as superior political enlightenment.

Why?

What evidence do you have that tribal voting is tribal voting when others do it, but patriotic wisdom when your side does it?

Third, Obi is not automatically at an advantage because people are unhappy.

Anti-incumbency is not a manifesto.

Anger is not a policy document.

What exactly is Obi's alternative economic plan?

What is his power sector roadmap?

What is his fuel subsidy alternative?

What is his exchange-rate policy?

The answers remain remarkably vague.

Finally, politics is full of what I call Aba Trader Syndrome.

A product is wrapped in brilliant packaging, marketed with maximum hype and sold as revolutionary.

The buyer gets home, opens the package and discovers the content is far less impressive than the advertising.

The challenge for Obi in 2027 is simple:

How do you sell the same product a second time to people who have already opened the wrapper? 😁

BeardedMeat:
Conjectures upon conjectures from the ruling party who acts like opposition.

What do you really mean by waned?

Peter has gained more followers than he had in 2023, while Tinubu has lost 40% of his followers to Atiku and Obi.

If we talk on internet, you'd say it's not by internet noise, now the very same thing you flatly critique is your yardstick for guaging popularity. That's serious.

This is a clever argument, but the figures do not support it.

First, “Peter has gained more followers” is not evidence. Followers where? Twitter? WhatsApp? YouTube? Elections are not counted in likes.

Second, where exactly did Tinubu lose 40% of his votes to Atiku and Obi? Which state? Which ward? Which election result proves this?

The actual post-2023 elections show the opposite: LP / NDC / ADC have struggled badly in Edo, Ondo, Anambra and recent bye-elections, while PDP often still outperforms LP/NDC/ADC on the ground.

Third, Obi’s 2023 vote was not simply “mass appeal.” It was heavily concentrated in the South-East and Christian/minority-belt states. He scored huge numbers in Anambra, Enugu, Imo, Abia, Ebonyi, Plateau, Benue and Taraba, but performed poorly across much of the North-West and North-East.

That was a protest/identity/religious wave, partly driven by Muslim-Muslim ticket anxiety.

What has changed since then?

The novelty is gone. LP structure has weakened. Soludo crushed Obi’s candidate in Anambra. LP and all parties associated with him were not a serious factor in Ondo. Edo exposed the limits of social media energy.

So yes, by “waned,” I mean simple English: the wave is no longer translating into votes.

And politics is not measured by online confidence.

It is measured by polling-unit arithmetic.

aswani:
"He will clearly tell you Tinubu is a disappointment but I will still vote him because he is my tribe man"

The above uttered by your landlord is the same thing you are doing regarding Peter Obi. Why the hypocrisy?

By the way, Peter Obi never had any advantage to become president and he is spinning away from centre the more he opens his mouth.

Currently projected third or fourth behind APC, ADC and maybe even PDP.

Your oga's momentum ended when your fellow Ndigbo Obidients insulted and abused other Nigerians whose sin was not believing in your messiah. Good luck now asking politely for their votes.

You have accidentally made my point for me.

First, if your landlord says he is disappointed but will still vote Tinubu because of tribe, that is his personal position.

The real question is: why do many Obidients immediately assume every Yoruba supporting Tinubu is doing so because of tribe, but millions of Igbos supporting Obi are supposedly acting from pure political enlightenment?

That double standard is the hypocrisy.

Second, I agree with you on something important: Obi never had an easy path to the presidency. In fact, I have repeatedly argued that his support was heavily concentrated in the South-East and parts of the North-Central.

The difference is that in 2023 many people mistook a powerful protest movement for a national governing coalition.

Those are not the same thing.

Third, on momentum, you are touching a sensitive point.

The Obi movement did suffer enormous reputational damage because too many supporters substituted persuasion with abuse.

Many neutrals who might have listened were insulted as idiots, slaves, ethnic enemies or paid agents simply because they disagreed.

Politics is addition, not subtraction.

You do not win a national election by constantly shrinking your coalition.

Finally, the article was not claiming Obi had no wave.

The article's argument is that the wave has not translated into durable structure.

Edo, Ondo, Anambra and the bye-elections are the evidence.

The question is no longer whether there was a wave.

The question is where it went. 😁

CharlesCNG:
This “El-Rufai and the North made Tinubu president” line is sweet politically, but weak arithmetically.

Let us start with Kaduna. In 2023, Atiku defeated Tinubu in Kaduna presidential election. So if El-Rufai “made” Tinubu president, why did he fail to deliver his own state? Even the Kaduna governorship election was a narrow APC survival: Uba Sani scored **730,002** against PDP’s **719,196**.

Now compare that with today. APC has since won Chikun/Kajuru Federal Constituency by-election with **34,580** votes against PDP’s **11,491**, plus victories in Zaria Kewaye and Basawa state constituencies. That is not the picture of a dead APC in Kaduna.

The bigger point is this: governors matter. Structures matter. Local chairmen, senators, reps, assembly members and ward machinery matter. Politics is not nostalgia.

The northern politicians who truly worked with Tinubu are still largely with him. Today, APC controls more northern governorship structures, including strategic states across the North-West and North-East.

As for Obi, many of his 2023 northern votes were protest and identity votes in Christian/minority belts. Those votes are not guaranteed to remain intact in 2027.

So bookmark this: Tinubu does not need to win every northern state by landslide. He needs spread, structure and competitive margins.

Atiku may have sentiment.

Obi may have noise.

But Tinubu has governors.

And in Nigerian politics, governors are not decoration. They are engines.

Warped logic. Tinubu did not win Kaduna in the same way he didn't win Lagos nor Kano. I guess Sanwo-olu and the likes of Ganduje contributed nothing to his victory. Tinubu didn't win Kaduna but he got his second highest votes in the Northwest from Kaduna, only next to Kano. It was the margins in the North that made him president, not the number of states won. Obi floored him in the South as he was only able to win 4 Yoruba states out of 17 Southern states. If it were merely about governors, APC had governors in Ebonyi, Imo and Cross Rivers. Pray tell, how many votes did Tinubu get from those states? In 2023, was your vote influenced by your state governor and would you change your mind if your governor decamps today?

Some Northerners were sceptical about Tinubu in 2023 but the likes of Elrufai gave them reassurances. His betrayal and treachery have only succeeded in removing all doubts as time will prove. Tinubu's treachery also disincentivices anyone who would want to go all out in the North for him like Elrufai did. He had better win the South in a landslide this time.

CharlesCNG:
This is a thoughtful argument, but it contains one major weakness: it romanticises the Obi vote as “the masses” without looking at where the votes actually came from.

If Obi was simply the candidate of the poor masses, why did he perform so poorly in most of the North-West, North-East and large parts of the South-West? Are there no poor people there?

In 2023, Obi’s strongest votes came from the South-East and selected Christian/minority-belt states.
He scored 584,621 in Anambra, 466,272 in Enugu, 352,904 in Imo, 341,866 in Ebonyi, and 327,095 in Abia. He also did strongly in Plateau with 466,272, Benue with 308,372, and Taraba with 146,315].

That pattern suggests identity, protest, religion and regional emotion — not simply “the masses.”

Meanwhile, in Bauchi he got 27,373, Kano 28,513, and much of the North-West/North-East gave him single-digit percentages.

So the “poor masses” theory collapses. Poor Nigerians exist everywhere, but Obi’s votes did not spread everywhere.

And what has changed since 2023? The wave has failed to become structure. Edo, Ondo, Anambra and recent bye-elections show obi influence declining sharply outside presidential emotion.

So yes, Obi was a symbol.

But symbols without structure become souvenirs. 😂

True. But if you had taken time to read my whole comment, you will see where I said...

One thing is undisputed. Bat has failed. Coincidentally, his failure is also his greatest weapon. By further impoverishing the masses, it becomes easier to buy thier votes at the point of the polling booth. Vote bat and get immediate monetary rewards. It is why those who troop out massively to vote are usually the poor who live from hand to mouth and bat knows this.

Those same masses are hungry. They know the person presently has not performed to expectation, but they are also easily influenced by momentary benefits.

Mind you, the number of 'poor' people in Nigeria has increased significantly. Essentially, most of those that where mid middle class and lower middle class have effectively become poor. And most of the poor have become extremely/multidimensionally poor...

https://www.thecable.ng/over-50-of-nigerias-population-live-in-poverty-says-world-bank/

https://businessday.ng/business-economy/article/over-50-of-nigerians-sub-saharan-africans-are-multidimensionally-poor-world-bank/

However, the beauty of this discussion is that interpretations are bound to differ depending on perspectives and motives.

Peter Obi turned the support all Nigerian Christians from all Tribes gave him.into an Ethnic Witch-hunt

Many who voted for him are regretting it because of the vicious daily Ethnic attacks of his Obidient hate Mob.

Peter Obi never calls them to order
It is so pathetic

CharlesCNG:
My brother, the biggest flaw in your argument is that you assume 2027 will be a replay of 2023.

It won't.

2023 and 2027 are different universes.

In 2023, Obi was the new product on the shelf. Many people had not examined it closely. The novelty was the attraction.

By 2027, the wrapper has been opened.

People have now had four years to examine the content.

That changes everything.

You say nobody knew Obi in June 2022. Correct.

That was his advantage.

Nobody had tested his claims, contradictions or competence.

Today, Nigerians have heard Obi promise 10,000MW without explaining the funding, transmission plan, gas supply, timelines or execution model.

They watched him condemn “structures of criminality,” only to later embrace the same old political actors when it became convenient.

They have seen him hop from one platform to another while asking Nigerians to trust his stability.

They have watched Labour Party fracture under his watch.

They have seen allies, spokesmen and supporters drift away.

Most importantly, they have seen that behind the fine slogans is a weak, confused and reactive leadership style.

The mystery is gone.

Second, it is funny how you accuse Yorubas of supporting Tinubu because he is Yoruba, but somehow the overwhelming support Obi receives from Igbos is always presented as superior political enlightenment.

Why?

What evidence do you have that tribal voting is tribal voting when others do it, but patriotic wisdom when your side does it?

Third, Obi is not automatically at an advantage because people are unhappy.

Anti-incumbency is not a manifesto.

Anger is not a policy document.

What exactly is Obi's alternative economic plan?

What is his power sector roadmap?

What is his fuel subsidy alternative?

What is his exchange-rate policy?

The answers remain remarkably vague.

Finally, politics is full of what I call Aba Trader Syndrome.

A product is wrapped in brilliant packaging, marketed with maximum hype and sold as revolutionary.

The buyer gets home, opens the package and discovers the content is far less impressive than the advertising.

The challenge for Obi in 2027 is simple:

How do you sell the same product a second time to people who have already opened the wrapper? 😁

🤣🤣🤣
Omo
What did I just read😂
U mean people sat down to unwrapped who is not in power ?😂
U mean all the propaganda of he built Lagos and now he is president and Nigeria is worst will be ignored?
U mean the hunger and poverty Tinubu brought will be ignored?
U mean the killings and kidnapping under him will be ignored?
You mean the promise of providing 247 electricity, and if he doesn't, nobody should vote him again, will be ignored ?

Instead we will now pour our anger and vex on Obi that rule Anambra 14yrs ago 🤣🤣
Omo
Wetin una dey smoke ?

I will repeat
only Tinubu performance would have silenced the oppositions permanently, not some propagandas or lies you tell yourselves in your group
I wonder what u really claim to have unwrapped that only those in ur group that never supported b4 him are seeing but others dont🤣

Tinubu made u a promise of giving you 247 electricity within his first 4yrs, you clapped, you never asked him how he intended to achieve it, you never asked him for numbers. now 4yrs is almost here and nothing has been achieved. But somehow Obi that gave u numbers, went to Egypt to studied how it was done there, you want him to now break it further into details for you😂, how hypocritical can u guys really be😏😏

Anyways, election nor far again.
There is nothing like he built Lagos. Everyone in Nigeria can now see and feel the administration of Tinubu and on that election day, we will judge him by his past 4yrs performance not the lies and propagandas u are telling yourself that you have unwrapped Obi😊

Christistruth03:
Peter Obi turned the support all Nigerian Christians from all Tribes gave him.into an Ethnic Witch-hunt

Many who voted for him are regretting it because of the vicious daily Ethnic attacks of his Obidient hate Mob.

Peter Obi never calls them to order
It is so pathetic

After una dey smoke that thing finish
Una go just dey hallucinate
Epele
Decider of Christians
Wait till campaign start

Christistruth03:
Peter Obi turned the support all Nigerian Christians from all Tribes gave him.into an Ethnic Witch-hunt

Many who voted for him are regretting it because of the vicious daily Ethnic attacks of his Obidient hate Mob.

Peter Obi never calls them to order
It is so pathetic

After una done smoke that thing finish
Una go just dey hallucinate
Epele
Decider of Christians
Wait till campaign start

Honestly if is Soludo he has my vote

esnbrutality:
Time of post 6.20am

Chai!!!!

This is how his pains starts it.

He wakes up suddenly shockingly because he saw his nightmare in his dreams. He start wrting meaninglezz epistles and drop emil000kaan information in the data boiz WhatsApp coven, a coven a particular Mod is a top member

The Mod will hide the thread so that the data boiz of the faaake certttifficcate hollldderr after receiving his information, will fly to the thread and articulate their lies and propaganda against their nightmare PO

After changing their monikers to comment on the FP, the Mod will then push it to the FP

I like how he is creating inconsequential threads about PO. It shows the level of torment he gets from his nightmare

lamentor78:
Honestly if is Soludo he has my vote

U mean after giving Nigerians Buhari and now Tinubu, you still get mind to suggest who to vote for🙄🙄
Omo you get mind o
People like you should never ever be allowed to vote or have opinion on candidates.
The 2 you supported for 12yrs counting now have brought nothing but pains and disasters to this nation.
So please stop it

The levels is so disappointing and shows a deliberate need for validation. PO torments them from DUSK till DAWN

DatNiggaDaz:


This is how his pains starts it.

He wakes up suddenly shockingly because he saw his nightmare in his dreams. He start wrting meaninglezz epistles and drop emil000kaan information in the data boiz WhatsApp coven, a coven a particular Mod is a top member

The Mod will hide the thread so that the data boiz of the faaake certttifficcate hollldderr after receiving his information, will fly to the thread and articulate their lies and propaganda against their nightmare PO

After changing their monikers to comment on the FP, the Mod will then push it to the FP

I like how he is creating inconsequential threads about PO. It shows the level of torment he gets from his nightmare

CharlesCNG:
My brother, you have missed the subject again.

The article is not denying that Obi had a wave in 2023. In fact, it clearly says the wave was real.

The point is that the wave has since reduced to electoral drizzle. Edo, Ondo, Anambra and the bye-elections after 2023 all show the same pattern: noise without structure.

As for Kwankwaso, please calm down.

In 2023, Kwankwaso was on the ballot himself. He won only **one state — Kano** — and finished fourth nationally with about **1.49 million votes**, while Tinubu won nationally with about **8.79 million votes**.

Outside Kano, where exactly was the Kwankwaso tsunami?

Tinubu defeated him across the North except Kano. So this “Obi plus Kwankwaso double wave” sounds more like two leaking buckets forming an alliance against a river. 😂

If Obi’s wave is fading and Kwankwaso’s strength barely crossed Kano in 2023, what exactly are we supposed to fear?

A coalition of nostalgia and red caps?

Nobody takes you serious,Obidients only vote when Obi is on the ballot,what is bye elections,who cares about that.How many bye elections did Lp win before 2023.

It is now they agreed that it was a Tsunami.. because you want to make a senseless post that it has waned.

You just know mandaters from a far when you see them

OredoPikin:
🤣🤣
U are here again.

I repeat
only Tinubu performance would have silenced any opposition
Just that 247 electricity he boldly promise would have rendered the opposition to nothing
Every other thing u are saying is an imagination from your head.

Just imagine me will go and vote Tinubu because someone abused me🤣
Not because Obi became president and he failed to deliver on his promises😏
Omo
It means I wasted my 5yrs in Uniben.
Wasted 2yrs in ICC, wasted 1yr in western boys high schooland wasted good 3years in Niger college.
God forbid bad thing

U nor dey reason like Edo person sha.
So i am not surprised

My brother, once again, you are debating an article that exists only in your imagination. 😁

The article is titled "The Obi Wave: From 2023 Tsunami To Electoral Drizzle."

It is about one question:

Has the Obi wave translated into electoral victories after 2023?

The evidence examined was Edo, Ondo, Anambra and the bye-elections.

Your response?

"Tinubu should have given us 24/7 electricity."

Whether that is true or false is a completely different discussion.

The article was not titled **"Tinubu's Performance Review."**

It was about the electoral strength of the Obi movement after 2023.

You say everything else is imagination.

Interesting.

Are the Anambra results imagination?

Was LP's 10,000-plus votes in the governorship election imagination?

Were the Edo and Ondo results imagination?

Those are election results, not imagination.

And nobody said you should vote Tinubu because somebody abused you.

The point was that constantly insulting neutrals is a terrible way to build a national coalition.

If five years in UNIBEN, two years in ICC and three years elsewhere taught you anything, it should be the difference between the topic under discussion and the topic you wish was under discussion. 😂

The question remains:

Why has the Obi wave struggled to reproduce its 2023 momentum in actual elections?

That is the article.

Try answering it.

DatNiggaDaz:


This is how his pains starts it.

He wakes up suddenly shockingly because he saw his nightmare in his dreams. He start wrting meaninglezz epistles and drop emil000kaan information in the data boiz WhatsApp coven, a coven a particular Mod is a top member

The Mod will hide the thread so that the data boiz of the faaake certttifficcate hollldderr after receiving his information, will fly to the thread and articulate their lies and propaganda against their nightmare PO

After changing their monikers to comment on the FP, the Mod will then push it to the FP

I like how he is creating inconsequential threads about PO. It shows the level of torment he gets from his nightmare

Thank you for another contribution that carefully avoids the subject of the article.

The article contained election results, vote figures, governorship outcomes and bye-election data.

Your rebuttal contains dreams, nightmares, WhatsApp covens, secret societies, mods, monikers and conspiracy theories.

One of us is discussing politics.

The other is auditioning for a Nollywood mystery series. 😁

And I always laugh when Obidients say "Obi is your nightmare."

The article is about Obi's electoral performance.

If discussing a politician makes him a nightmare, then by that logic Tinubu must be the chief nightmare of Obidients because some of you discuss him morning, afternoon and night.

Most importantly, notice that after all the drama, you still did not address the central question:

Why has the Obi wave struggled to reproduce its 2023 momentum in subsequent elections?

That is the article.

Everything else is just special effects.

As our elders say, when a man cannot answer the question, he starts reviewing the microphone.

OredoPikin:
After una done smoke that thing finish
Una go just dey hallucinate
Epele
Decider of Christians
Wait till campaign start

😂 My brother, the article contained election results.

Your rebuttal contains smoke, hallucinations and campaign season.

One of us brought figures.

The other brought incense.

And "wait till campaign start" is not an argument. It is a prayer point.

The article is about what voters have already done since 2023, not what you hope they will do in 2027.

When campaign starts, we will analyse that too.

For now, try responding to the results on the ground instead of the visions in your head. 😂

CharlesCNG:
My brother, once again, you are debating an article that exists only in your imagination. 😁

The article is titled "The Obi Wave: From 2023 Tsunami To Electoral Drizzle."

It is about one question:

Has the Obi wave translated into electoral victories after 2023?

The evidence examined was Edo, Ondo, Anambra and the bye-elections.

Your response?

"Tinubu should have given us 24/7 electricity."

Whether that is true or false is a completely different discussion.

The article was not titled **"Tinubu's Performance Review."**

It was about the electoral strength of the Obi movement after 2023.

You say everything else is imagination.

Interesting.

Are the Anambra results imagination?

Was LP's 10,000-plus votes in the governorship election imagination?

Were the Edo and Ondo results imagination?

Those are election results, not imagination.

And nobody said you should vote Tinubu because somebody abused you.

The point was that constantly insulting neutrals is a terrible way to build a national coalition.

If five years in UNIBEN, two years in ICC and three years elsewhere taught you anything, it should be the difference between the topic under discussion and the topic you wish was under discussion. 😂

The question remains:

Why has the Obi wave struggled to reproduce its 2023 momentum in actual elections?

That is the article.

Try answering it.

Someone quoted my comment and i replied based on comments of the person
I did not reply to your topic but to the person comments
I hope that sink

Now back to ur imagination again🤣
Obi will be judged by his performance of 14yrs ago that affected only Anambrans in whichever way that suite your agenda,
Meanwhile Tinubu will not be judged by his performance that all Nigerians are experiencing now 🤣
Make it make sense pls

I dont have Obi manifesto when he was seeking for governor of Anambra
I dont know what he promised them.
But i know he did alot far better than any governor ever to govern a Nigeria state since the coming of the 4th republic
The records are there for everyone to see.

Now here is Tinubu that promised me directly 247 electricity with a caveat that if he doesn't do it, i should not vote him again.
So i will leave Tinubu promise he made to me and go and hold Obi for his promises to Anambran 23yrs ago that I am not even aware of🤣
Again
wetin una dey smoke
See logic like Benin ore road 😂

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Nobody takes you serious,Obidients only vote when Obi is on the ballot,what is bye elections,who cares about that.How many bye elections did Lp win before 2023.

"Nobody takes you serious" says the man who keeps showing up under every thread.

My brother, if nobody takes me serious, why are you doing compulsory attendance?

And thank you for finally admitting one of the central points of the article:

"Obidients only vote when Obi is on the ballot."

Exactly.

That is another way of saying the movement has struggled to develop durable political structure beyond one man.

As for bye-elections, governorship elections and off-cycle elections, political analysts all over the world use them to measure shifts in voter sentiment after general elections.

You may not care about them.

Politicians do.

Parties do.

Serious analysts do.

And one more thing: Obidients are not actually the target audience of my write-ups.

The target audience is the undecided voter, the neutral observer and the politically curious.

You people are simply the unpaid entertainment section.

But rest assured, whenever you bring this level of idiocy into the comments, I will continue to respond accordingly. 😁

OredoPikin:
Someone quoted my comment and i replied based on comments of the person
I did not reply to your topic but to the person comments
I hope that sink

Now back to ur imagination again🤣
Obi will be judged by his performance of 14yrs ago that affected only Anambrans in whichever way that suite your agenda,
Meanwhile Tinubu will not be judged by his performance that all Nigerians are experiencing now 🤣
Make it make sense pls

I dont have Obi manifesto when he was seeking for governor of Anambra
I dont know what he promised them.
But i know he did alot far better than any governor ever to govern a Nigeria state since the coming of the 4th republic
The records are there for everyone to see.

Now here is Tinubu that promised me directly 247 electricity with a caveat that if he doesn't do it, i should not vote him again.
So i will leave Tinubu promise he made to me and go and hold Obi for his promises to Anambran 23yrs ago that I am not even aware of🤣
Again
wetin una dey smoke
See logic like Benin ore road 😂

You are still debating an article that nobody wrote.

The article was not titled "Why Tinubu Has Achieved 24/7 Electricity."

The article was titled "The Obi Wave: From 2023 Tsunami To Electoral Drizzle."

It examined one question:

Why has the electoral momentum of 2023 not translated into subsequent election victories?

Notice how you have spent several paragraphs discussing Tinubu, electricity, Benin-Ore Road and what you personally will do in 2027.

Not one sentence answering the question raised in the article. 😁

As for Obi's Anambra performance, you accidentally prove my point.

If Obi was such an electoral superweapon, why couldn't Labour Party convert that goodwill into governorship victories, legislative dominance or sustained electoral success after 2023?

That is the issue.

And nobody said Tinubu should not be judged.

Judge him by all means.

But if you want to discuss Tinubu's performance, start a thread on Tinubu's performance.

Don't enter a discussion about Obi's electoral decline and then spend your entire time discussing electricity.

That is like attending a wedding and delivering a speech about aviation fuel.

And please, leave Benin-Ore Road alone.

That road has suffered enough without being compared to your logic.

CharlesCNG:
😂 My brother, the article contained election results.

Your rebuttal contains smoke, hallucinations and campaign season.

One of us brought figures.

The other brought incense.

And "wait till campaign start" is not an argument. It is a prayer point.

The article is about what voters have already done since 2023, not what you hope they will do in 2027.

When campaign starts, we will analyse that too.

For now, try responding to the results on the ground instead of the visions in your head. 😂

U guys are still yet to get it.
Nobody care about off cycle election results that are cooked from Aso rock.
At least till we have someone like Yaradua again as president that will allow INEC and The judiciary to truly function independently.
If you are using off cycle election results conducted by Tinubu to judge 2027 election, then you are truly a novice.

Let me take u back to 2023.
LP and Obi had no elected official backing them.
Not even a councillor.
But guess what
Obi and LP won more states than Tinubu and Atiku 🤣🤣
Wike have to start running like idi amin to start changing results
Okowa, a sitting governor and a vice presidential candidate to PDP lost his state to Obi
The rest you know
Like I said, Nigerians are waiting for Tinubu in January
All the killings, the hunger, the economy reality, we will remind at the poll and this time, we will be ready to defend our votes with our lives
Don't run faster the than your shadow
Just wait and see

End...

They will not pick even Rochas Okorocha but
than for them to pick an Ibo man, they will rather pick a cow.
This is the plain truth about the North, this is what they discuss in their guarded moments.

BATified2023:
so if the north have the option to pick an ibo man or a Yoruba man

Which one do u think they will pick?

You sef get power to continuously dey try to wake people wey dey pretend to sleep.

CharlesCNG:
You are still debating an article that nobody wrote.

The article was not titled "Why Tinubu Has Achieved 24/7 Electricity."

The article was titled "The Obi Wave: From 2023 Tsunami To Electoral Drizzle."

It examined one question:

Why has the electoral momentum of 2023 not translated into subsequent election victories?

Notice how you have spent several paragraphs discussing Tinubu, electricity, Benin-Ore Road and what you personally will do in 2027.

Not one sentence answering the question raised in the article. 😁

As for Obi's Anambra performance, you accidentally prove my point.

If Obi was such an electoral superweapon, why couldn't Labour Party convert that goodwill into governorship victories, legislative dominance or sustained electoral success after 2023?

That is the issue.

And nobody said Tinubu should not be judged.

Judge him by all means.

But if you want to discuss Tinubu's performance, start a thread on Tinubu's performance.

Don't enter a discussion about Obi's electoral decline and then spend your entire time discussing electricity.

That is like attending a wedding and delivering a speech about aviation fuel.

And please, leave Benin-Ore Road alone.

That road has suffered enough without being compared to your logic.

aswani:
"He will clearly tell you Tinubu is a disappointment but I will still vote him because he is my tribe man"

The above uttered by your landlord is the same thing you are doing regarding Peter Obi. Why the hypocrisy?

By the way, Peter Obi never had any advantage to become president and he is spinning away from centre the more he opens his mouth.

Currently projected third or fourth behind APC, ADC and maybe even PDP.

Your oga's momentum ended when your fellow Ndigbo Obidients insulted and abused other Nigerians whose sin was not believing in your messiah. Good luck now asking politely for their votes.

How do you know he's Igbo
Oredo is in Edo state

CharlesCNG the CNG expert who only writes about Obi
Is Obi the name or model of a CNG device?

Kukutente23:
CharlesCNG the CNG expert who only writes about Obi
Is Obi the name or model of a CNG device?

The article is about Obi's electoral performance.

If discussing a politician now means obsession, then by that standard Obidients are Tinubu's biggest fan club.

You can't answer the article, so you've started reviewing my username.

When the substance is too hot, some people attack the label on the bottle.

Kukutente23:
How do you know he's Igbo
Oredo is in Edo state

I looked at his posting history, he never appeared in Edo election threads, he has posts laced with bile against Yoruba people, appears in Abia related threads, will abuse and insult anyone that says anything about Peter Obí till today.

He has spent time in Benin, of that I don't doubt, but he has ancestry In Aligbo.