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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 7:02pm On Jun 24
FACTS

Nostalgia people will never admit some new generational are better and have surpassed their demigods
Godx:
He didn't tell you Mbappe was more talented than Delima. Being more talented and being the better player are two different things. Delima entire reputation is hinged on his world cup performances and Mbappe is already on par with him if not even better in that regard.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 7:02pm On Jun 24
He is Italian
popizaino:
I am sold on any player from Argentina.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by izzou(m): 7:04pm On Jun 24
akwesenana:
Unrelated, but what point in time can be referred to indomie generation?
The context of the Indomie is about the group that consumes it, and not about the age of the product.

Indomie is usually for children, so that's why any shade to someone who's young is usually categorized as "Indomie"
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nemesis0147(m): 7:12pm On Jun 24
fredoooooo:
Fuel price reduce globally . Still same in Naija ?
yes oh
Tinubu and dangote don carry us handicap
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 7:16pm On Jun 24
It just statement they use here to insult someone beating their argument as little kid while Dem be adult that witness it all.
akwesenana:
Unrelated, but what point in time can be referred to indomie generation?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nemesis0147(m): 7:17pm On Jun 24
Sportsweb:
FACTS

Nostalgia people will never admit some new generational are better and have surpassed their demigods
these arguments are funny
Mbappe and his people are getting these stats now because the game has gone soft and na fraudsters Dey play ball now.

You can’t compare the kind of defenders,,goal keepers we have then to these yahoo boys…

Football then was war!!
It was a do or die affair….not what they are playing now
Most of these new players will be going on injury every week if the game intensity was the same
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 7:27pm On Jun 24
michigang:
That is why i will never rate cr7 as goat cos he added no value to football aside from scoring selfish goals. Football is all about exciting your fans with your god given talents and leaving a lasting impression behind
When did you start watching CR7? If you watched him in his early days in Sporting Lisbon, Manu and Real Madrid, you won't spill this out.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 7:29pm On Jun 24
Trevor012:
Who dash fake, fat and amputated Ronaldo two league titles grin
La Liga is the league that made your man a global superstar and the league where he spent the majority of his career. So, how many League titles did he win there also?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 7:30pm On Jun 24
popizaino:
Last i checked he was the minister of petroleum resources.
Minister of petroleum doesnt decide cost of a barrel of oil
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Trevor012(m): 7:40pm On Jun 24
MorataFC:
La Liga is the league that made your man a global superstar and the league where he spent the majority of his career. So, how many League titles did he win there also?
The greatest of all time won 8 league titles and dominated 4 different leagues.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Illimitable: 7:49pm On Jun 24
raumdeuter:
Longevity

Mbappe already played 2 world cup finals same with R9 and can potentially play 2 more

While R9 was way more talented, his body broke earlier in life

Longevity is where Messi and CR7 beats many of these older players. Messi is 39 CR7 is 41. At those ages most of the older generations superstars have long forgotten football and looked like Mr Ibu

Ronaldinho was elite for less than 5 seasons
Longevity is not beans. It’s the most important factor in this GOAT debate.

Is it easy to be at the top for 20 years? These guys must have sacrificed everything(family, fun, alcohol, pastries, soda, etc) to be in tip-top shape so they can continue to deliver on the pitch.

Look at Rooney’s shape. He’s 9 months younger than Cristiano. grin cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 7:51pm On Jun 24
fredoooooo:
Fuel price reduce globally . Still same in Naija ?
Nigeria is an entity you can't explain and understand. They were quick to attribute the hike in price to the war but reluctant to reduce the price after the war.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Trevor012(m): 7:52pm On Jun 24
If na Ronaldo talk this one Beelzebub fans for don scatter everywhere grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Illimitable: 7:55pm On Jun 24
Godx:
Baba he didn't win a league title until he was 26. He only won two league titles and around five major club trophies throughout his entire career. Without his World Cup title and the performances that came with it his standing in football history would below that of Ronaldinho, Zidane and others. The foundation of his GOAT level reputation is overwhelmingly built on what he achieved and how he performed on the World Cup stage. How exactly is this controversial or even debatable.
Nobody gave any attention to winning trophies over individual performance in the 90s.

R9 was phenomenal.

This was R9 casually dropping prime CR7/LM10 numbers at the age of 20 in La Liga.

47 goals, 13 assists in 49 apps.

Mbappe would tear both ACLs to achieve this.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 7:59pm On Jun 24
Trevor012:
The greatest of all time won 8 league titles and dominated 4 different leagues.
You just answered a question that nobody asked. I asked how many La Liga titles he won, and your response was "8 league titles in four different leagues."
That's like asking for someone's score in Mathematics and being told their total score across all subjects. Stay within the question asked, biko grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 8:02pm On Jun 24
airmark:
So, Kane was only useful for your Bayern because Olise and Diaz were useless, right? Nonsense talk as usual. grin

Your footie knowledge is not higher than Lordfalcao's, the lowest here.
Olodo core. Everything about your footie knowledge can be written on a grain of rice

PSG, Madrid, Argentina and France have all proven a #9 is optional
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Trevor012(m): 8:03pm On Jun 24
MorataFC:
You just answered a question that nobody asked. I asked how many La Liga titles he won, and your response was "8 league titles in four different leagues."
That's like asking for someone's score in Mathematics and being told their total score across all subjects. Stay within the question asked, biko grin
You are asking a foolish question that I don't care about. Fat and fake Ronaldo won only one league title in his entire career. See the difference, entire freaking career. grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 8:04pm On Jun 24
Are you being funny or what? That Mbappe will tear acl to drop that number or what?
Illimitable:
Nobody gave any attention to winning trophies over individual performance in the 90s.

R9 was phenomenal.

This was R9 casually dropping prime CR7/LM10 numbers at the age of 20 in La Liga.

47 goals, 13 assists in 49 apps.

Mbappe would tear both ACLs to achieve this.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by drisham(m): 8:04pm On Jun 24
Nemesis0147:
these arguments are funny
Mbappe and his people are getting these stats now because the game has gone soft and na fraudsters Dey play ball now.

You can’t compare the kind of defenders,,goal keepers we have then to these yahoo boys…

Football then was war!!
It was a do or die affair….not what they are playing now
Most of these new players will be going on injury every week if the game intensity was the same
Na so

Even some the goal keepers and defenders of those days were mid

Players were spamming goals from outside the box

Defenders would afford attackers space to dribble you 100 times


Only few we rugged and it's was mostly unnecessary and dangerous tackles that the players gets sent off or carded for
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by fredoooooo: 8:11pm On Jun 24
Canada escape dat
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Potvalor:
Illimitable:
Nobody gave any attention to winning trophies over individual performance in the 90s.

R9 was phenomenal.

This was R9 casually dropping prime CR7/LM10 numbers at the age of 20 in La Liga.

47 goals, 13 assists in 49 apps.

Mbappe would tear both ACLs to achieve this.
You can't use stats favorably to win a R9 vs Mbappe argument cos Mbappe has had numerous 30+ goals seasons and multiple 40+ goals seasons since he started his career; he even had a 70+ G+A season in 2021/22. So stat-wise, Mbappe beats R9 for sure and he is still 27 years, with maybe at least 5-6 more top-level seasons to come.

You can use maybe "eye test", "aura", "football being easier now" points, but going with stats (and achievements), the earlier argument of Mbappe >> R9, Henry, Ronaldinho is valid. Like you can project Mbappe to end his career with almost 30 World Cup goals if he plays 2 more tournaments, and such predictions would seem realistic.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by fredoooooo: 8:13pm On Jun 24
He missed dat 1 v 1
Good job gk
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 8:14pm On Jun 24
No allow them Whyne you. Everybody is World-class and Messi and Ronaldo level.

There are no average, mid or garbage players. Nostalgia people won't kill me
drisham:
Na so

Even some the goal keepers and defenders of those days were mid

Players were spamming goals from outside the box

Defenders would afford attackers space to dribble you 100 times


Only few we rugged and it's was mostly unnecessary and dangerous tackles that the players gets sent off or carded for
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 8:16pm On Jun 24
I watch Maradonna road to 1990 world cup final, if you see the kind shot these people dey shot from impossible angle, so may over the ball, out of target shot, everybody just de shoot the goal. Nonsense matches everywhere
drisham:
Na so

Even some the goal keepers and defenders of those days were mid

Players were spamming goals from outside the box

Defenders would afford attackers space to dribble you 100 times


Only few we rugged and it's was mostly unnecessary and dangerous tackles that the players gets sent off or carded for
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 8:17pm On Jun 24
Proper Chels everywhere. To fool Chelsea UK fans no hard

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:24pm On Jun 24
A40:
Olodo core. Everything about your footie knowledge can be written on a grain of rice

PSG, Madrid, Argentina and France have all proven a #9 is optional
Your own team, Bayern Munich, disagree with your empty brain. grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Illimitable: 8:24pm On Jun 24
Potvalor:
You can't use stats favorably to win a R9 vs Mbappe argument cos Mbappe has had numerous 30+ goals season and multiple 40+ goals seasons too. Stat-wise, Mbappe beats R9 for sure and he is still 27 years, with maybe at least 5-6 more top-level seasons to come. You can use maybe "eye test", "aura", "football being easier now" points, but going with stats (and achievements), the earlier argument of Mbappe >> R9, Henry, Ronaldinho is valid. Like you can project Mbappe to end his career with almost 30 World Cup goals if he plays 2 more tournaments, and such predictions would seem realistic.
Mbappe doesn’t beat R9 in anything.

Mbappe hasn’t even won the CL in this era and he’s already 27. Mbappe benefits from a nationality lottery of being born in France.

If he was born in Yaoundé, I doubt he would have played in any WC, let alone win one. The only reason you people rate Mbappe is because of his nationality - which is just a lottery.

Where a pregnant woman decides to have a baby boy should not determine greatness. I don’t really rate all these national team competitions. It’s a farce. The World Cup is almost 100 years of age and ONLY 8 countries have won it.

Long story short, you have to be born in a footballing powerhouse country to be able to win the World Cup. If Pele(as talented as he is) was born in India, he would never have gone to a World Cup, never mind winning one.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Godx: 8:26pm On Jun 24
Illimitable:
Nobody gave any attention to winning trophies over individual performance in the 90s.

R9 was phenomenal.

This was R9 casually dropping prime CR7/LM10 numbers at the age of 20 in La Liga.

47 goals, 13 assists in 49 apps.

Mbappe would tear both ACLs to achieve this.
Can you tell me the name of the previous Pichichi winner before this Ronaldo season, the amount of goals he scored and the club he played for?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Potvalor: 8:27pm On Jun 24
Illimitable:
Mbappe doesn’t beat R9 in anything.

Mbappe hasn’t even won the CL in this era and he’s already 27. Mbappe benefits from a nationality lottery of being born in France.

If he was born in Yaoundé, I doubt he would have played in any WC, let alone win one. The only reason you people rate Mbappe is because of his nationality - which is just a lottery.

Where a pregnant woman decides to have a baby boy should not determine greatness. I don’t really rate all these national team competitions. It’s a farce. The World Cup is almost 100 years of age and ONLY 8 countries have won it.

Long story short, you have to be born in a footballing powerhouse country to be able to win the World Cup. If Pele(as talented as he is) was born in India, he would never have gone to a World Cup, never mind winning one.
R9 never won a UCL, and he still gets mentioned in the GOAT debate. CR7 only had 1 UCL and 1 Balon d'Or until he was 28yo. There is enough time for a 27yo Mbappe to do more and extend his legacy for sure. But even as of today, he has done enough to sit among the legends of the 1990s and 2000s era.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Illimitable: 8:28pm On Jun 24
Godx:
Can you tell me the name of the previous Pichichi winner before this Ronaldo season, the amount of goals he scored and the club he played for?
Antonio Pizzi of Tenerife. He was 27.

Ronaldo was 20.

TWENTY!!!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Godx: 8:31pm On Jun 24
Illimitable:
Antonio Pizzi of Tenerife. He was 27.

Ronaldo was 20.

TWENTY!!!!!
So a nobody like Antonio Pizzi playing for Tenerife scored 31league goals just one year prior to Ronaldo scoring 34 yet somehow Mbappe would tear Acl to score similar numbers in that Era. It's all good bro.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Illimitable: 8:32pm On Jun 24
Potvalor:
R9 never won a UCL, and he still gets mentioned in the GOAT debate. CR7 only had 1 UCL and 1 Balon d'Or until he was 28yo. There is enough time for a 27yo Mbappe to do more and extend his legacy for sure. But even as of today, he has done enough to sit among the legends of the 1990s and 2000s era.
Only league champions qualified for UCL in that era.

If that same rule applies now, Arsenal will be playing CL for the first time in 22 years(next season).

30 years later, kids would go on the internet and type “Bukayo Saka is an awful player, he only has 3 goals in the CL.” grin cheesy
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