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Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Jahwinaboy(m): 11:03pm On Jun 24
Juliette5803:
State Assembly?
Yea dear. State assembly is far better than national assembly
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by demstone: 11:06pm On Jun 24
TRADEMARK OBIDIENTS...
U SIMPLY TRAINED TO BITE
BUT THINK.. NAH!!!!!

IF TINUBU'S 2ND TERM ELECTION WAS
2024
TINUBU WOULD HAVE LOST BEFORE 12PM

IF IT WAS 2025
HE WOULD HAVE LOST
BUT DEFINATELY NOT BY A LANDSLIDE

IF ELECTINS WHERE TODAY
TINUBU MAY LOOSE NARROWLY

BUT LUCKILY !!!
JAGABAN STILL HAS 1YEAR...

GREAT LEADERS TEND TO B HATED AT THE BEGINNING
BUT BECOME HERO'S WITH TIME

Akalia:
Any future built at the detriment of many would demand more detrimental costs to sustain.
Tinubu is building a modern Nigeria that will take shape in the future without ensuring the availability of security of lives and the means of livelihood of the masses in the present and you think that the modern future would come to be?have you seen where development festers in the face of alarming multi-faceted insecurity?
Oga you are just a stooge, abeg hush.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Atlantis585: 11:58pm On Jun 24
To God be the glory. Flush out all the Muslim terrorists from all the forests in the SS and SE.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by yemre: 12:21am On Jun 25
Basic123:
TINUBU WILL BE REMEMBERED BY WELL MEANING NIGERIANS FOR MANY LANDMARKS REFORMS
(Most are what pundits all agreed on their importance but each president has always been scared to touch because of fear and politics)


-Subsidy removal
-liberalization of forex
-TAX Reform
-NELFUND
-LG Autonomy
-Lagos-Sokoto highway
-Lagos-Badagry Highway
-MMIA reconstruction
-Regional commissions in all geopolitical zones
-Electricity devolution and decentralization bill
-Latest STATE POLICE
All in 3 years! The man has tried abeg. He hit the ground running like he promised and there he is!
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by yemre: 12:23am On Jun 25
helinues:
Passing is not the issue but the implementation

The state governors have already been asking for more funds on a bill that's yet to be passed

They gave out their intentions early
Any state that takes security seriously will make financial provisions for it's implementation. Any state that sees the funding as an issue here is not a serious state and should be investigated!

Nothing can be more important than security at this point.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by yemre: 12:25am On Jun 25
WizardOfNG:
Lol. I am not expecting to see any of those negative and bitter folks on this thread.

Like their messiah Obi, bad news and negativity is all they live to focus on without having the class and maturity to minimally praise good developments from the PBAT Government when such is delivered. No
Let's wait and see if he will react to this. And the direction of his reactions when he does eventually.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by yemre: 12:28am On Jun 25
blackgold2018:
so you get sense finally.

For me it’s a game orchestrated by your government. Deep down they don’t want this bill to see light of the day. By end of the day something must happen to disrupt it. At the end Tinubu will carry the praise for attempting to create state police but never happened.

If Tinubu want this bill implemented, he will see through it. Weather it means to release more funds.
This is under the state portfolio. Tinubu can not tell them how to do it. His only responsibility is to get them the approval and the legality. How they choose to do it is up to them. By law, Tinubu has his own limitations when it comes to matters that do not fall within the federal jurisdictions.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by lawani(m): 1:53am On Jun 25
yemre:
Any state that takes security seriously will make financial provisions for it's implementation. Any state that sees the funding as an issue here is not a serious state and should be investigated!

Nothing can be more important than security at this point.
Thank you. States have so much money, a few of them spent 500 billion within a few years to build unneeded and redundant international airports and someone is saying there is no money for state police!?

A state like Lagos can have a 500k strong force comprising of active members and reservists, all armed. All states should incorporate all vigilante groups as reservists. They will pay for their own rifles and munitions. The average state should have at least 100k people under arms
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by lawani(m): 1:56am On Jun 25
blackgold2018:
so you get sense finally.

For me it’s a game orchestrated by your government. Deep down they don’t want this bill to see light of the day. By end of the day something must happen to disrupt it. At the end Tinubu will carry the praise for attempting to create state police but never happened.

If Tinubu want this bill implemented, he will see through it. Weather it means to release more funds.
Mention the states that will vote against the bill
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by CoachMercy(f): 2:50am On Jun 25
Lol 😂 una too get bad month
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by lastmessenger: 3:23am On Jun 25
Dogalmighty17:
Our politicians have not matured enough to be given such power
is tinubu matured enough to be given such power
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by lastmessenger: 3:24am On Jun 25
Dogalmighty17:
Our politicians have not matured enough to be given such power
is tinubu matured enough to be given such power?
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by miceroms: 3:53am On Jun 25
This is questionable.
I have a lot of concerns that this was not thought through at all.
The guiderails against abuse are not firm enough.
Who finances them, who checks them, what will be the process of appointment, what are the qualifications.
Will they be using current police structureshuh??
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by CharlesCNG: 3:58am On Jun 25
yemre:
All in 3 years! The man has tried abeg. He hit the ground running like he promised and there he is!

State Police: Could This Become Tinubu’s Greatest Legacy?


If state police finally becomes law under President Tinubu, it may rank among his most historic achievements.

For decades, Nigerians have complained about insecurity while operating a policing system too centralised for a country of over 200 million people.

Kidnapping, banditry, communal violence and rural attacks are often local in origin, yet security response is controlled from afar.

That contradiction has cost lives.

What makes this moment important is not merely that the National Assembly is moving the bill forward. It is that a broad consensus is forming around an idea once considered politically dangerous.

Governors want it.

Many lawmakers support it.

Security realities now demand it.

And the bill attempts to answer the biggest fear: governors’ abuse of police powers.

If Tinubu can shepherd this reform through the National Assembly, secure the approval of at least 24 state legislatures, and help build safeguards against political misuse, he would have achieved something previous administrations discussed but failed to deliver.

State police will not solve insecurity overnight.

But it could transform Nigeria’s security architecture by bringing intelligence, response and accountability closer to communities.

Subsidy removal may define Tinubu’s economic courage.

Local government autonomy may define his federalist instinct.

But state police may become the reform that most directly touches the safety of ordinary Nigerians.

If done properly, it will not just be a policy win.

It will be a legacy.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by CharlesCNG: 4:00am On Jun 25
adenigga:
SOURCE



Barau Jibrin
Deputy Senate President

Plateau and State Police: When Security Must Understand the Soil


If there is any state that illustrates the urgency of state police, it is Plateau.

Plateau’s security crisis is not ordinary crime alone. It is a complex mix of farmer-herder conflict, land disputes, reprisal attacks, communal tension, rural banditry and identity politics.

A centralised police command sitting far away cannot fully understand the delicate terrain of Barkin Ladi, Bokkos, Mangu, Riyom or Bassa the way locally rooted security officers would.

State police would allow Plateau to build a force that understands local languages, village boundaries, grazing routes, flashpoints, family networks and early warning signals.

That matters.

Many attacks do not happen without warning. Communities often hear rumours, notice movement and sense danger before violence erupts. But intelligence is useless when response is slow or disconnected.

For Plateau, state police should not be about giving governors a political weapon. It should be about building a professional, locally informed security layer with clear safeguards, federal oversight and community accountability.

The Federal Police should still handle terrorism, arms trafficking and inter-state crimes. But Plateau needs officers who know the ground before the ground catches fire.

Insecurity is local before it becomes national.

And Plateau has paid too much in blood for Nigeria to continue pretending that one central police structure can understand every village, every route and every conflict.

State police is not a magic wand.

But for Plateau, it may be the missing first responder.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Ttalk: 4:17am On Jun 25
yemre:
Let's wait and see if he will react to this. And the direction of his reactions when he does eventually.
You will be surprised to hear him condemn the initiative and claim Nigerian Police should have been better managed without federal government interference and corruption

To Obi every of Nigeria problem start and end with corruption yet he himself is corruption personified
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by CharlesCNG: 4:24am On Jun 25
adenigga:
SOURCE



Barau Jibrin
Deputy Senate President
The State Police Bill in Plain English: What Every Nigerian Should Know. by CharlesCNG

The recently passed constitutional amendment does **not** simply hand the police over to governors. It creates a framework with checks and balances designed to improve security while limiting abuse. Here are its major provisions in plain language:

1. Nigeria will have two police systems.

Instead of replacing the Nigeria Police Force, the bill creates **Federal Police and State Police** operating side by side. The Federal Police will continue to exist.

2. States are not forced to create state police

Each state must first pass its own law before establishing a state police service. No state police comes into existence automatically.

3. National minimum standards remain

A state cannot simply create any police force it likes. Every state police must satisfy national standards prescribed by the National Assembly before becoming operational.

4. Governors do not [/b]appoint commissioners alone

A State Commissioner of Police is [b]appointed by the governor on the advice of the Nigeria Police Council
and must also be confirmed by the State House of Assembly.

5. Commissioners can reject unlawful orders

If a governor issues an order the Commissioner believes is unlawful or contrary to professional policing standards, the Commissioner may refer the matter to the Nigeria Police Council, whose decision is final. This is one of the bill's strongest safeguards against political abuse.

6. Federal Police remain responsible for national crimes

The Federal Police will continue to handle terrorism, interstate crimes, organised crime, national security matters and policing in the FCT. State Police focus mainly on law and order within their states.

7. Abuja cannot interfere at will

Federal intervention in a state's policing is limited to exceptional situations such as a total breakdown of law and order, where the governor requests assistance, or where a state police force becomes unable to function.

8. Existing policing continues until a state is ready

If a state has not established its own police service, the Federal Police will continue to perform all policing functions there.

9. The bill is not yet the final law

Because it is a constitutional amendment, it must still be approved[b] by at least 24 State Houses of Assembly [/b]before it can be presented for presidential assent and become part of the Constitution.

10. The objective is decentralisation, not politicisation

The philosophy behind the bill is simple: security challenges differ across Nigeria. Local policing can improve intelligence gathering and response time, while constitutional safeguards are intended to prevent governors from turning state police into personal political armies. Whether those safeguards prove sufficient will depend on implementation as much as legislation.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by ghm: 4:41am On Jun 25
Vision101:
Hahaha 🤣😂 Obi proposed it but Tinubu copied it. That's why Obi doesn't want to give us details of his plans anymore..... hahaha 🤣😂
You are delusional. State police has been in discussion ever before Obi dreamt of running for president.

https://www.thecable.ng/announcing-the-arrival-of-state-police/

After nearly 70 years of agitation, Nigeria finally looks set to establish state police. That is, every state will have its own police force. On Thursday, House of Assembly speakers in the 36 states of the federation announced their support for the proposal. That means we should expect state legislators to endorse an amendment when it gets to them. First, two-thirds of National Assembly members must pass it. Only 24 of the 36 states are required to endorse it by a simple majority of the Houses of Assembly. It will finally require presidential assent for it to take effect. President Bola Tinubu has been campaigning for state police for decades, so I guess he will sign off as soon as it gets to his desk.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Kukutente23: 5:15am On Jun 25
lawani:
Thank you. States have so much money, a few of them spent 500 billion within a few years to build unneeded and redundant international airports and someone is saying there is no money for state police!?

A state like Lagos can have a 500k strong force comprising of active members and reservists, all armed. All states should incorporate all vigilante groups as reservists. They will pay for their own rifles and munitions. The average state should have at least 100k people under arms
500k?
I guess you're the same dude who whispered 50m youths in Tinubu's ears
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by yemre: 5:17am On Jun 25
CharlesCNG:

State Police: Could This Become Tinubu’s Greatest Legacy?


If state police finally becomes law under President Tinubu, it may rank among his most historic achievements.

For decades, Nigerians have complained about insecurity while operating a policing system too centralised for a country of over 200 million people.

Kidnapping, banditry, communal violence and rural attacks are often local in origin, yet security response is controlled from afar.

That contradiction has cost lives.

What makes this moment important is not merely that the National Assembly is moving the bill forward. It is that a broad consensus is forming around an idea once considered politically dangerous.

Governors want it.

Many lawmakers support it.

Security realities now demand it.

And the bill attempts to answer the biggest fear: governors’ abuse of police powers.

If Tinubu can shepherd this reform through the National Assembly, secure the approval of at least 24 state legislatures, and help build safeguards against political misuse, he would have achieved something previous administrations discussed but failed to deliver.

State police will not solve insecurity overnight.

But it could transform Nigeria’s security architecture by bringing intelligence, response and accountability closer to communities.

Subsidy removal may define Tinubu’s economic courage.

Local government autonomy may define his federalist instinct.

But state police may become the reform that most directly touches the safety of ordinary Nigerians.

If done properly, it will not just be a policy win.

It will be a legacy.
Honestly bro, you said it all. And on whether the approval of 24 state legislatures can be secured, that's a done deal because I don't see any state that will downplay the issue of kidnapping and insecurity at this present time.

We need the state police abeg. Let the indigenes, who understand their terrain be in charge of their own security within their own territory.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Kukutente23: 5:19am On Jun 25
yemre:
Let's wait and see if he will react to this. And the direction of his reactions when he does eventually.
Wet know the reason BATISTS are happy about the bill is they think it gives them room to push security issues to the govs while shielding their fraud
Unfortunately the same bill says terrorism falls under federal jurisdiction so you should know that the state police is not being created to fight banditry and terrorism. It's being created to reduce the workload on the Federal police especially on routine and basic policing matters
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Philosopher1979: 5:22am On Jun 25
blackgold2018:
so you get sense finally.

For me it’s a game orchestrated by your government. Deep down they don’t want this bill to see light of the day. By end of the day something must happen to disrupt it. At the end Tinubu will carry the praise for attempting to create state police but never happened.

If Tinubu want this bill implemented, he will see through it. Weather it means to release more funds.
When terrorists start kidnapping our politicians, it will dawn on them that they need
to be serious.
It will be done.
There is a level of insecurity our leaders can tolerate before we descend into
the bottomless pit of war and become like somalia or some war torn African country.
Even these politicians are not safe.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by zoedew: 5:50am On Jun 25
AsomughaChuks02:
What then becomes of Hisbah the Sharia police operating in Muslim states, since the new law expressly forbids state police from applying religious bias in the work?
The secular Statehood of Nigeria as provided for in the Nigerian Constitution is slowly inching towards the Supreme Court for judicial determination.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Ttalk: 6:03am On Jun 25
Kukutente23:
Wet know the reason BATISTS are happy about the bill is they think it gives them room to push security issues to the govs while shielding their fraud
Unfortunately the same bill says terrorism falls under federal jurisdiction so you should know that the state police is not being created to fight banditry and terrorism. It's being created to reduce the workload on the Federal police especially on routine and basic policing matters
Am here to burst your lies.

If the workload on the Federal police is reduced, won't that lead to decentralised system and enhance the drive against crime at the state level?

What you failed to understand is that the States house of assembly has power to legislate on the scope and functions of crime within a state and such powers will cover abduction, kidnapping, banditry, open grazing and related crimes
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by tonesky(m): 6:10am On Jun 25
State police is good in a sane clime but Nigeria has penchant for abusing any good thing. A country where tribalism, religious sentiment and corruption is supported by the ruling government can't enjoy state policing. Under federal policing which is in practice, we have heard pockets of instances where police officers provide arms and shielded criminal activities and under state policing it's going to increase in a geometric progression. Police and local criminals will be working hand in hand for a mutual benefit, also it would be used against local enemity and to settle scores. Sooner than later, the misnomers will begin to manifest. It will be used to chase out non- indigenes residing in another State. It's just a matter of time.
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Kukutente23: 6:17am On Jun 25
Ttalk:
Am here to burst your lies.

If the workload on the Federal police is reduced, won't that lead to decentralised system and enhance the drive against crime at the state level?
Welcome back my boy
I see you've leaned some lessons so far but since you've come back for more I'll be happy to oblige. But next time don't jump in a conversation so rudely to advertise your ignorance and be so cocky about it.
The workload on the Federal police has been reduced before now.
In my view, the state police bill is a wash. They are not giving the states the autonomy to build and control their own police but want it still tied to the aprons of the FG. This is not how state policing is supposed to work.
In terms of routine duties, the FRSC, NSCDC have been carrying out some of those duties for the police for some time. The main problem of the Nigerian police is spread and professionalism. Spread in the sense that so many areas in Nigeria do not have police presence and when they do, it's mainly skeletal and, so many police officers are poorly trained and equipped to do their job. Now can you tell me in tangible points how what you've seen so far about state policing will cure these two ills above? Don't forget the two main issues bedevilling policing in Nigeria: spread and professionalism.
That's why late Tafa and Ehindero were both advocating for community policing as against the fanciful sounding state police
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Omalicious1: 6:19am On Jun 25
adenigga:
SOURCE



Barau Jibrin
Deputy Senate President
How about payment of salaries...let's not forget that some states still can't pay the new minimum wage
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Kukutente23: 6:22am On Jun 25
Ttalk:
Am here to burst your lies.

What you failed to understand is that the States house of assembly has power to legislate on the scope and functions of crime within a state and such powers will cover abduction, kidnapping, banditry, open grazing and related crimes
Where did you see this part in the snippets of the bill shared?
Kidnapping is usually a cross border crime especially that which is carried out by terrorists. The terrorists are Fulani who came with weapons to Oyo to kidnap school children and have then moved them into the forest bordering Kwara.
States already have penal and criminal codes. You simply don't understand anything. Most activities of the bandits fall under terrorism after all, both ISWAP and Boko Haram have been designated as terrorists by Nigerian laws. So stop advertising ignorance abeg!
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Uchesis: 6:23am On Jun 25
quisera:
Fear who no fear Tinubu. This man is really a political strategist. The pressure of insecurity was too much on him so he had to share the responsibility. So now state governors or the masses can't totally blame him for insecurities in their states. Checkmate
Any bill that is swiftly passed into law, Tinubu has a hand in it.

It will also help him rig in the 2027 election. Afterall he has 32 governors grin
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by Tzar(m): 6:24am On Jun 25
When has the current police or armed forces not been used for personal serviceshuh
Nigerians need to understand that state police is not to solve misuse of the service for personal gain by governors. It is supposed to solve other problems such as, armed security personnel shortages, police funding, policing with local knowledge, etc.
Whether it is state or federal policing, politicians in Nigeria will surely use them for personal gains… know this and know peace.

Juliette5803:
My problem is with the State Governments, they might turn them to personal services
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by cuteboy2:
Northern governors will simply rename Hizbah as State Police. They will definitely use them to enforce sharia, especially against Christians. We will all whine and complain, but they will do it anyway.

AsomughaChuks02:
What then becomes of Hisbah the Sharia police operating in Muslim states, since the new law expressly forbids state police from applying religious bias in the work?
Re: Senate Passes State Police Bill, empowers Govs to appoint Police Commissioners by waice6571: 6:54am On Jun 25
Basic123:
TINUBU WILL BE REMEMBERED BY WELL MEANING NIGERIANS FOR MANY LANDMARKS REFORMS
(Most are what pundits all agreed on their importance but each president has always been scared to touch because of fear and politics)


-Subsidy removal
-liberalization of forex
-TAX Reform
-NELFUND
-LG Autonomy
-Lagos-Sokoto highway
-Lagos-Badagry Highway
-MMIA reconstruction
-Regional commissions in all geopolitical zones
-Electricity devolution and decentralization bill
-Latest STATE POLICE
All the needed ingredients for parliamentary system of government are almost complete......

Everything is working towards regional government and full resource control. I wish President Bola Ahmed Tinubu the grace and wisdom to achieve his aims of restructuring the country.

Lastly, to the Ibos, if your enemy seems to be working in your favour, the best thing is to support him with all your energy; maybe God is using him in disguise, except you don't know what you are doing.

Thank you President Tinubu.
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