₦airaland Forum

Yeah that move to Inter came out of nowhere but to be fair he probably wanted to test himself in the best league in the world which was Serie A at the time.

Joezinho:
I still wish R9 left Barca for RM… Serie A was hellhole back then. Dude played in the era when tackling from behind was allowed and the brutal physicality of Serie A cost him a lot .

His peak is the highest in football probably tied with Pele & Maradona’s peaks. After injury, he was still above the rest. That is what makes R9 so special. That’s my 🐐

El Fenomeno for a reason

Ibime:
If you did not watch football in the 1990s, you cannot know Ronaldo Nazario

Indomie generation can only make assumptions based on catching the second part of his career as fat Ronaldo in the 2000s

Ronaldo before his 1999 injury was a GOAT

Ronaldo after his comeback in 2002 was a Henry level player

He sat down from 1999 to 2002 with an exploded kneecap. Returned in 2002 after 3 years out and scored 8 World Cup goals to win the golden boot.

As in, he returned from 3 years sickbed straight to the World Cup and smashed it.

He trained by himself in Brazil to get in physical shape for that World Cup and having climbed that mental and physical mountain and conquered it, he immediately relaxed and let himself go physically, turning up to Real Madrid that summer as fat Ronaldo and that second half of his career is what clouds his legacy

andrewbaba44:
Which of your black brother ?

See question.

Almost all the group sef I back SE to advance. It's only the Tunisian group with Japan Netherlands and Sweden that is touch and go.

andrewbaba44:
There see many group Naija will qualify ,like many ,but if I talk now dem go say we no come World Cup ,so I won’t blame them

World Cup now don easy pass before ,make fifa end am here sha ,I hope they don’t change it to every 2 years

outside the obvious ones Messi and CR7 I would say Yamal, Vini Jnr (debatable admittedly), Kane, Mbappe, and Haaland.

andrewbaba44:
Abeg make una give me like 5 current players wey una think say he generational talent 🙏

I Dey argue with person

chrisooblog:
outside the obvious ones Messi and CR7 I would say Yamal, Vini Jnr (debatable admittedly), Kane, Mbappe, and Haaland.

Na vini I Dey argue with person

i said he is very good but not a generational talent 😂

andrewbaba44:
Abeg make una give me like 5 current players wey una think say he generational talent 🙏

I Dey argue with person

Kopalma
Mumuduke
Savinho

iamoyindamola:
Kopalma
Mumuduke
Savinho

Chai you no serious 😂

I can see why you have misgivings about Vini's generational status but then it's hard to ignore what he has achieved with Real Madrid.

I would say let this WC be the litmus test. If Brazil wins it with Vini being front and center then your debate ends if not then it continues.

andrewbaba44:
Na vini I Dey argue with person

i said he is very good but not a generational talent 😂

chrisooblog:
outside the obvious ones Messi and CR7 I would say Yamal, Vini Jnr (debatable admittedly), Kane, Mbappe, and Haaland.

Kane no enter.

A true generational talent will show extreme ability from a very young age. Basically from teenage years we will know that this player is special.

Kane is an all time great in terms of his performance and overall ability but he worked and developed it more than being a pure talent.

andrewbaba44:
Abeg make una give me like 5 current players wey una think say he generational talent 🙏

I Dey argue with person

Messi
CR7
Neymar
Haaland
Killah Mbappe
Yamal

airmark:
You are yet to tell me why I should leave the Burndisleaguedown champions with Kane as striker, out of it? Can you see how deluded you are?

The current World champion, Argentina, and the current club World Cup champions, used strikers in their setups to get those trophies.

A40, when will you stop disgracing yourself?

You're a confused 🤡. You are now hyping a league you don't even rate to make useless arguments

Lining up someone at CF and that CF carrying the team is a different matter. France played Giroud and Guivarch at CF their two World Cup wins. They were unimportant

Anyway explain to us why the last 3 CL Champions did not need a #9 to achieve success

airmark:
And a striker raised them from the dead. A40 how far?

I am happy Enrique didn't buy a quality striker like Gyokeres. Let's see how they will win next Ucl.

This L will follow you till the end of time.

afrodoc:
Messi
CR7
Neymar
Haaland
Killah Mbappe
Yamal

Okay agreed but I no want make you add Messi cr7 and neymar sha

chrisooblog:
I can see why you have misgivings about Vini's generational status but then it's hard to ignore what he has achieved with Real Madrid.

I would say let this WC be the litmus test. If Brazil wins it with Vini being front and center then your debate ends if not then it continues.

Vini na world class player ,proper baller

I even defend him from Madrid fans/mbappe sexuals at times

I don’t see him as a generational talent sha ,maybe I am wrong ,but this is just me

Kimbeast:
Netherland are in a pickle. Remain first and they face Morocco, lose and drop down to 2nd they face Brazil.

This format will cause a lot of gbege. Some big boys will not make it past Round of 16

raumdeuter:
If the govt doesnt have money to keep paying for the subsidy, what do you suggest they do?

If it is to embezzle,the money will be available but to do something for the betterment of us,that's when all excuses will suffice.

I suggest the government should ensure our safety so that farmers can return to the farms. We should take advantage of our vast arable land to grow what we eat,eat what we grow and export the rest. That would provide more money for the government. Let us crawl before thinking of flying.

Fair point but Kane was already banging in 30 plus goals per season by age 21-22 so I think he deserves to be in the conversation.

I think you can be a slight late boomer and be a generational talent.

It's not beans to be England's highest ever goal scorer surpassing greats like Rooney, Bobby Charlton and co.

afrodoc:
Kane no enter.

A true generational talent will show extreme ability from a very young age. Basically from teenage years we will know that this player is special.

Kane is an all time great in terms of his performance and overall ability but he worked and developed it more than being a pure talent.

chrisooblog:
Fair point but Kane was already banging in 30 plus goals per season by age 21-22 so I think he deserves to be in the conversation.

I think you can be a slight late boomer and be a generational talent.

It's not beans to be England's highest ever goal scorer surpassing greats like Rooney, Bobby Charlton and co.

In my opinion, late bloomer already cancels out generational talent.

Anybody who is not already showing signs that he will be an all time great as a teenager can’t be a generational talent. Generational talent is not about achievement but what you came into the senior game with. Whether you go on to be a legend of the game is a different story that depends on luck, discipline, hard work, sacrifice, etc.

Generational talents do not get loaned from place to place at age 18-20 like Harry Kane was.

A generational talent can end up being an underachiever while an average talent can end up being an all time great. Many other factors influence the end result.

A40:
This format will cause a lot of gbege. Some big boys will not make it past Round of 16

The World Cup makes it easy for you to qualify for the next round ,but at the same time e be like gbege go plenty from round of 32 to the quarter finals 😁

popizaino:
If it is to embezzle,the money will be available but to do something for the betterment of us,that's when all excuses will suffice.

I suggest the government should ensure our safety so that farmers can return to the farms. We should take advantage of our vast arable land to grow what we eat,eat what we grow and export the rest. That would provide more money for the government. Let us crawl before thinking of flying.

How much is a liter of fuel in the other West African countries, are they cheaper than Nigeria?

andrewbaba44:
Okay agreed but I no want make you add Messi cr7 and neymar sha

Haaland, Mbappe, Yamal are the only undeniable ones.

It depends on one’s standards for generational talent. If we use quota system and eye of pity and under duress, Vini, Pedri, and maybe Musiala can enter.

afrodoc:
In my opinion, late bloomer already cancels out generational talent.

Anybody who is not already showing signs that he will be an all time great as a teenager can’t be a generational talent. Generational talent is not about achievement but what you came into the senior generation with. Whether you go on to be a legend of the game is a different story that depends on luck, discipline, hard work, sacrifice, etc.

Generational talents do not get loaned from place to place at age 18-20 like Harry Kane was.

A generational talent can end up being an underachiever while an average talent can end up being an all time great. Many other factors influence the end result.

What do you think of Zidane, Dinho, Xavi, will you say they were generational given your criteria

raumdeuter:
What do you think of Zidane, Dinho, Xavi, will you say they were generational given your criteria

If we are talking about generational TALENT:

Xavi definitely not. I watched him fairly well as a youth player. Somewhere down the line his game developed and evolved into the GOAT midfielder that he became.

Zidane most likely not but I didn’t see much of him as a youth player but I believe his game evolved too.

Dinho is the one that has the best claim to being a generational talent cos everything he became from a technical point of view was already on display from the earliest sighting of him.

I am saying this as someone whose favourite 2 midfielders this century are Zidane and Xavi.

afrodoc:
If we are talking about generational TALENT:

Xavi definitely not. I watched him fairly well as a youth player. Somewhere down the line his game developed and evolved into the GOAT midfielder that he became.

Zidane most likely not but I didn’t see much of him as a youth player but I believe his game evolved too.

Dinho is the one that has the best claim to being a generational talent cos everything he became from a technical point of view was already on display from the earliest sighting of him.

I am saying this as someone whose favourite 2 midfielders this century are Zidane and Xavi.

All these players I think bloomed in the mid 20s. So I will say they are generational.

Unless you are defining the term TALENT as someone young. I see it as someone with generational abilities regardless of age

_{Don't bring Dictionary for me, I am from Oyo infact same village as freddoooo, we no sabi English}

popizaino:
Out of everything he said,this is the only thing you could pick out?

Yes.

afrodoc:
Haaland, Mbappe, Yamal are the only undeniable ones.

It depends on one’s standards for generational talent. If we use quota system and eye of pity and under duress, Vini, Pedri, and maybe Musiala can enter.

What about Michael Olise ?

afrodoc:
Haaland, Mbappe, Yamal are the only undeniable ones.

It depends on one’s standards for generational talent. If we use quota system and eye of pity and under duress, Vini, Pedri, and maybe Musiala can enter.

I'm surprised that you consider him generational. If he doesn't score or have good touches against France you'll have people here calling him a division two player.

Meanwhile, what do you think of Olise?

The reputations of many past players have aged gracefully largely because their flaws were never subjected to todays level of exposure. They didn't play in this era of intense social media scrutiny. Now every single game is analyzed to the bare minimum, every misplaced pass, failed dribble, missed chance, and poor performance is clipped, posted, and debated across social media by even amateur viewers like us. Even Messi and Ronaldo were not spared.


With past players, most people remember the highlights, the iconic moments, and the occasional big matches they watched. The countless average performances and bad games are forgotten.

Modern players are also expected to do far more than their predecessors. Strikers are no longer judged solely on goals. They are expected to press from the front, drop deep to link play, create chances, and contribute defensively. Mbappe is coming off a 42 goal In 44 game season yet he's still being labelled a problem at Madrid because he doesn't press enough.

AirBere:
I'm surprised that you consider him generational. If he doesn't score or have good touches against France you'll have people here calling him a division two player.

Meanwhile, what do you think of Olise?

Just to prove my point

afrodoc:
In my opinion, late bloomer already cancels out generational talent.

Anybody who is not already showing signs that he will be an all time great as a teenager can’t be a generational talent. Generational talent is not about achievement but what you came into the senior game with. Whether you go on to be a legend of the game is a different story that depends on luck, discipline, hard work, sacrifice, etc.

Generational talents do not get loaned from place to place at age 18-20 like Harry Kane was.

A generational talent can end up being an underachiever while an average talent can end up being an all time great. Many other factors influence the end result.

Where does benzema rank?

Kimbeast:
Just to prove my point

Yeah. If Haaland doesn't score or have touches people here including bbc pundits usually call him a division 2 player. If Mbape drops a stinker, nobody is calling him that.

I think the undisputed generational talent right now is Mbape. Yamal is on his way if he fulfils his potential.

raumdeuter:
How much is a liter of fuel in the other West African countries, are they cheaper than Nigeria?

I don't think it matters when they don't have billions of barrels laying below their own earth surface.