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Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by LibertyRep: 8:26pm On Jun 25
Stop na grin

ojbanja:
I will advise that the SW states should call theirs "OLOPA" and Not Police.i.e
Lagos state OLOPA, Ondo State OLOPA Oyo State OLOPA,Ekiti State OLOPA Osun State OLOPA , and Kwara State OLOPA .
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Mrexcell(m): 8:27pm On Jun 25
This man used to be one of PDP's best brains very eloquent so sad to see now working for same apc govt he once referred to as a terrorist organisation. As a nigerian politician try all u can to never have any skeletons in ur cupboard so that u won't be made to eat ur own vomit in future.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Achor1111(m): 8:31pm On Jun 25
Some Governors Impunity will be second to none
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by nairalanda1(m): 8:31pm On Jun 25
Okoyeeboz:
You think every state is like the barren portions of your impoverished region?
If Nigeria cannot fund the federal police adequately, how would the states do it?

Think.

Most states do not have the money to even fund schools properly, would they suddenly have money for decent state police.?

Man, it is not by abuse that you learn.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by amaridigital(m): 8:34pm On Jun 25
ojbanja:
I will advise that the SW states should call theirs "OLOPA" and Not Police.i.e
Lagos state OLOPA, Ondo State OLOPA Oyo State OLOPA,Ekiti State OLOPA Osun State OLOPA , and Kwara State OLOPA .
Kwara no be SW. Those things called police don't carry Opa (Sticks) nowadays but they carry ibon thus, they should be called Onibon not Olopa. How will you explain to your underage kids why States Police are called Olopa when they are not carrying sticks?
Chai, what really got into Nigerans? We were once a peaceful people that our police officers only use sticks in the past. Where does these violence came from since the collapse of regional and parliamentary system of Government?
Can't we design a unique system of Government for our and ditch this system that's not working? Is this how our unborn generations will continue to struggle?
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by franvincoop: 8:39pm On Jun 25
Mr. Subsidy leave that your long long talk, you are talking in future past tense.
What Nigeria needs now is what matters, the State Police force, the manpower, bikes, Hilux with AK, finish.
Leave all that structure wey you dey misyarn, if State Police miss to kill you, we go pack una like sardine for Kirikiri or port you go Sokoto.
When you reach there write long long epistle on prison overcrowding from there.
Forensics kill you there for country wey even light no dey.

You just just want to criticize because Tinubu did it, if Tinubu did not do it, you guys would say Tinubu cannot do it, now he has done it and you guys are changing goalposts.
Do you guys truly believe that in Nigeria God gave wisdom only to Peter Obi?



nairalanda1:
And I am telling you that no state can afford an effective police force.

You can disagree with me, but it is what it is. The money needed is a lot

Plus we do not just need police force, we need good forensics, detention centers, juvenile law, enough judges , because Nigeria no get enough judges, that is why people are awaiting trial up and down, good training centers, not glorified secondary school wey dem go label am police training center, and even better funding for our universiites.

Plus, we need sane police officers, or do you want somebody with a few weeks training to come and be beating you up for nuthin?

Even if na to fight fulani herdsman, we need records, etc...even forensics to be sure we are holding the right fulani herdsman , not Hamidu from Kano who is passing through to buy some things for his shop in Kano, and knows nothing.

And in some instances, we need amored vehicles, tactical gear, drones, helicopters, not just one for every state, but several, decent cars, decent vehicles, not just dangote car wey he donate to police...hilux type cars, etc.

And all that needs a lot of money.

And it all needs to be maintained and upgraded, which means heavy duty taxes. You people wey dey call me Mr Tax, you see how e go be.?

State police is not what you people think. It may not involve a Bugatti, but it is not the nansense like Amotekun that cannot take on armed bandits.

Now, call me anti-progress.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by nairalanda1(m): 8:44pm On Jun 25
franvincoop:
Mr. Subsidy leave that your long long talk, you are talking in future past tense.
What Nigeria needs now is what matters, the State Police force, the manpower, bikes, Hilux with AK, finish.
Leave all that structure wey you dey misyarn, if State Police miss to kill you, we go pack una like sardine for Kirikiri or port you go Sokoto.
When you reach there write long long epistle on prison overcrowding from there.
Forensics kill you there for country wey even light no dey.

You just just want to criticize because Tinubu did it, if Tinubu did not do it, you guys would say Tinubu cannot do it, now he has done it and you guys are changing goalposts.
Do you guys truly believe that in Nigeria God gave wisdom only to Peter Obi?
First off, it is not about Obi or tinubu. If Obi was president, AND he proposed this, I would be laughin in state police too.

Second, a little secret, I do want state police. But in a country where the federal police is poorly funded, can government give money to the states to properly fund a state police.

Look oga, you can abuse me all you like , even call me names, but we got to think about what we want in a state police, before we get something that would be infinetly worse. Right now, all states cannot fund state police.

Most if not all states cannot fund schools properly, hosptials, state owned roads, etc etc...and suddenly they will be able to fund a state police that is well equipped to fight the bad security challenges we got?

At the end, you face reality, or you lie to yourself. I don't care anyway, I've chosen to face reality.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Omalicious1: 8:47pm On Jun 25
ogugwa1992:
https://leadership.ng/state-police-biggest-security-reform-in-decades-metuh/
I hope after this, insecurity will come to an end because state governors are claiming that if given the full access to security apparatus in their, terrorism will be brought to an end.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by nairalanda1(m): 8:48pm On Jun 25
franvincoop:
Mr. Subsidy leave that your long long talk, you are talking in future past tense.
What Nigeria needs now is what matters, the State Police force, the manpower, bikes, Hilux with AK, finish.
Leave all that structure wey you dey misyarn, if State Police miss to kill you, we go pack una like sardine for Kirikiri or port you go Sokoto.
When you reach there write long long epistle on prison overcrowding from there.
Forensics kill you there for country wey even light no dey.

You just just want to criticize because Tinubu did it, if Tinubu did not do it, you guys would say Tinubu cannot do it, now he has done it and you guys are changing goalposts.
Do you guys truly believe that in Nigeria God gave wisdom only to Peter Obi?
First off, it is not about Obi or tinubu. If Obi was president, AND he proposed this, I would be laughin in state police too.

Second, a little secret, I do want state police. But in a country where the federal police is poorly funded, can government give money to the states to properly fund a state police.? The answer is no.

Look oga, you can abuse me all you like , even call me names, but we got to think about what we want in a state police, before we get something that would be infinetly worse. Right now, all states cannot fund state police. It does not matter if it is rivers, or kano, no state can fund state police

Even Lagos that took 20 years to do two out of seven rail lines for the city metro, cannot fund a state police that would look after the population

Again our federal police is badly funded, most of the rank and file are paid below or around minimum wage, the same minimum wage states were complaining that they cannot pay, and you suddenly trust them to fund state police well..? Ok.



Most if not all states cannot fund schools properly, hosptials, state owned roads, etc etc...and suddenly they will be able to fund a state police that is well equipped to fight the bad security challenges we got?

Most of you cry at the mention of tax, and suddenly you want a state police that would work well without most eveyrone paying taxes?

What you are asking for is guys that would be decimated by armed thugs at the first time of asking.

At the end, you face reality, or you lie to yourself. I don't care anyway, I've chosen to face reality.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by frankson1(m): 9:04pm On Jun 25
Dokitto001:
I will give Tinubu created if he pulls this through and actually makes sure it works. Yes I am his biggest critic.

Too early to rejoice. Remember he signed local government autonomy into law and we can see how much that worked out. That's because they deliberately leave loopholes that makes sure these things never actually come to true fruition.
It's time to hold your state governors and leave Tinubu alone for once undecided

From Tinubu won't sign to Tinubu leaving loopholes so it won't work.

By now, y'all should have been swarming around your state house of assemblies and making sure they expedite their own work.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Lithiumite: 9:13pm On Jun 25
Pootle:
some state wont be able to handle their police department, they will be heavily under equipped leading to serious insecurity in some states
There is no take off date that every state must start.... its as soon as practicable for every state.......some state might still not be able to get their dmstate police in 5 years but good thing about this development is that it changes the discourse of putting every insecurity blame on the president.... the govs will now be equally responsible fir insecurity in their states and if a giv is incapable, a SOE can be easily declared by the president, this will make the govs sit up and stop lazying about.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by franvincoop: 9:18pm On Jun 25
You still don't get it do you?
State Police is here to stay.
Stop talking in future past tense.
Nigeria today is in a situation where if elections are held today, the majority of it's citizens would vote for a return to SARS despite their atrocities.


Do you think we don't know that the State Police will also commit atrocities but your alternative for us to wait for your utopia of jets, helicopters for State Police before they operate is as useless as the k in knife.

The greatest problem in Nigeria today is not doctors or hospitals nor schools or education or state owned roads, the greatest problem is insecurity.

About funding, did you believe states could find civilian JTF,Hisbah, amoketun, agunachemba and wtf their names are these days, did you believe States could fund them?
Can these same State security agencies be incorporated with 90 days military training and Ak47 with more Hilux as State Police?
Is the creation of State Police by Tinubu not in the spirit to legalize these different State security outfits and insert them into the constitution of the FRN as State Police?

Conclusion:
You are just being negative because it's not Peter Obi that did it.

Hypocrisy:
You love high taxes but you are voting for Obi leaving behind the tax master Tinubu and your ideology of preaching of high taxes.

If you get work, knowsay boys full your village wey go join State Police for minimum wage.
Go and verify.

nairalanda1:
First off, it is not about Obi or tinubu. If Obi was president, AND he proposed this, I would be laughin in state police too.

Second, a little secret, I do want state police. But in a country where the federal police is poorly funded, can government give money to the states to properly fund a state police.? The answer is no.

Look oga, you can abuse me all you like , even call me names, but we got to think about what we want in a state police, before we get something that would be infinetly worse. Right now, all states cannot fund state police. It does not matter if it is rivers, or kano, no state can fund state police

Even Lagos that took 20 years to do two out of seven rail lines for the city metro, cannot fund a state police that would look after the population

Again our federal police is badly funded, most of the rank and file are paid below or around minimum wage, the same minimum wage states were complaining that they cannot pay, and you suddenly trust them to fund state police well..? Ok.



Most if not all states cannot fund schools properly, hosptials, state owned roads, etc etc...and suddenly they will be able to fund a state police that is well equipped to fight the bad security challenges we got?

Most of you cry at the mention of tax, and suddenly you want a state police that would work well without most eveyrone paying taxes?

What you are asking for is guys that would be decimated by armed thugs at the first time of asking.

At the end, you face reality, or you lie to yourself. I don't care anyway, I've chosen to face reality.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Tareq1105: 9:31pm On Jun 25
nairalanda1:
Laughing in state police and reform.

Nigeria that cannot fund federal police go fund state police?

Nigeria where federal police runs from bandits and thugs, go produce state police that won't run

Still lauhging in state police.


You Nigerians do not know what is really wrong with your country, na to shout abuse up and down and defend politicans and tribe you dey know.
You're free to say anything you want. State police has come to stay. Let's try it and we shall use amendment to correct the inadequacies noticed as we progress. We can't afford to continue to postpone it.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Abufo: 9:32pm On Jun 25
ogugwa1992:
https://leadership.ng/state-police-biggest-security-reform-in-decades-metuh/
The most consequential decision Tinubu has taken so far! .....and certainly the best! A national police services commission must be set up to oversee the state and federal police services!
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by commoditiesnig(m): 9:34pm On Jun 25
Well said mr Metuh

State Police reform is truly the biggest security reform

Abufo:
The most consequential decision Tinubu has taken so far! .....and certainly the best! A national police services commission must be set up to oversee the state and federal police services!
Exactly!
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Okoroawusa: 9:34pm On Jun 25
nairalanda1:
And I am telling you that no state can afford an effective police force.

You can disagree with me, but it is what it is. The money needed is a lot

Plus we do not just need police force, we need good forensics, detention centers, juvenile law, enough judges , because Nigeria no get enough judges, that is why people are awaiting trial up and down, good training centers, not glorified secondary school wey dem go label am police training centre, and even better funding for our universities.

Plus, we need sane police officers, or do you want somebody with a few weeks of training to come and beat you up for nuthin?

Even if na to fight Fulani herdsman, we need records, etc...even forensics to be sure we are holding the right Fulani herdsman, not Hamidu from Kano who is passing through to buy some things for his shop in Kano, and knows nothing.

And in some instances, we need armoured vehicles, tactical gear, drones, helicopters, not just one for every state, but several, decent cars, decent vehicles, not just a dangote car wey he donate to police... HHilux-typecars, etc.

And all that needs a lot of money.

And it all needs to be maintained and upgraded, which means heavy-duty taxes. You people wey dey call me Mr Tax, you see how e go be.?

State police is not what you people think. It may not involve a Bugatti, but it is not nonsense like Amotekun that cannot take on armed bandits.

Now, call me anti-progress.
So because we can't afford it we shouldn't try? So countries that have state police started out great without reforms and improvements over the years? Sometimes you sound so intelligent and sometimes you lose me. I have previously accused you of playing to the gallery and you claimed that you are not. Easy my son... okay?
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by frog12: 9:52pm On Jun 25
This man still dey speak. E be like e don join renewed hope 😆😆😆
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by StreetFight: 9:55pm On Jun 25
nairalanda1:
Laughing in state police and reform.

Nigeria that cannot fund federal police go fund state police?

Nigeria where federal police runs from bandits and thugs, go produce state police that won't run

Still lauhging in state police.


You Nigerians do not know what is really wrong with your country, na to shout abuse up and down and defend politicans and tribe you dey know.
.
Negativity is an incurable disease
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by GodMercyOnlyK: 10:37pm On Jun 25
Your argument is flawed.

Governors have been hiding under the mantra of “ I do not have the power to command the police in my state” and have become so lazy to secure their states.

The state police if it eventually established now gives them the opportunities to work the talk. The states in Nigeria of today are well funded from the federation purse. If your governor cannot secure his state after establishing the state police, hold him responsible.

How do you explain where a Local Government Chairman will be a LG and the Governor is in the state, and some rogues will kidnap 20 to 40 students, drive them pass the community to God knows where and then the excuse of the governor is that the Police is answerable to the FG? Is that the type of system you want to continue in 2026?….


quote author=nairalanda1 post=139830026]

And I am telling you that no state can afford an effective police force.

You can disagree with me, but it is what it is. The money needed is a lot

Plus we do not just need police force, we need good forensics, detention centers, juvenile law, enough judges , because Nigeria no get enough judges, that is why people are awaiting trial up and down, good training centers, not glorified secondary school wey dem go label am police training center, and even better funding for our universiites.

Plus, we need sane police officers, or do you want somebody with a few weeks training to come and be beating you up for nuthin?

Even if na to fight fulani herdsman, we need records, etc...even forensics to be sure we are holding the right fulani herdsman , not Hamidu from Kano who is passing through to buy some things for his shop in Kano, and knows nothing.

And in some instances, we need amored vehicles, tactical gear, drones, helicopters, not just one for every state, but several, decent cars, decent vehicles, not just dangote car wey he donate to police...hilux type cars, etc.

And all that needs a lot of money.

And it all needs to be maintained and upgraded, which means heavy duty taxes. You people wey dey call me Mr Tax, you see how e go be.?

State police is not what you people think. It may not involve a Bugatti, but it is not the nansense like Amotekun that cannot take on armed bandits.

Now, call me anti-progress.[/quote]
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Xscape1993(m): 11:07pm On Jun 25
nairalanda1:
Laughing in state police and reform.

Nigeria that cannot fund federal police go fund state police?

Nigeria where federal police runs from bandits and thugs, go produce state police that won't run

Still lauhging in state police.


You Nigerians do not know what is really wrong with your country, na to shout abuse up and down and defend politicans and tribe you dey know.
the best comment ever read since that drug baron and certificate forger brought the issue of state police. We keep doing the wrong things in this country all the time. You are just a rare Nigerian. God bless you richly.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by delpee(f): 12:19am On Jun 26
ojbanja:
I will advise that the SW states should call theirs "OLOPA" and Not Police.i.e
Lagos state OLOPA, Ondo State OLOPA Oyo State OLOPA,Ekiti State OLOPA Osun State OLOPA , and Kwara State OLOPA .
They no longer hold opa. They have guns.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Dtruthspeaker: 6:27am On Jun 26
Now when a governor says you can't enter his state, na cofin wait you if you try am. And technically you will need visas to enter states.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by SonOfDSoil01: 7:13am On Jun 26
Kukutente23:
This state police is being overflogged in terms of Optics than the substance
Creation of state police is not a switch to put out insecurity
If that were the case, outfits like Amotekun and CJTF would have helped overcome insecurity in their various domains
We have to ensure that the laws that will be promulgated will be ones that ensures that the state police is adequately trained, funded and organised to combat insecurity and more importantly that there is a symbiotic and respectful relationship established between the state police and the Federal police such that they can both work seamlessly and effectively to nip insecurity if not it might end up a wild goose chase
undecided are amotekun and Cjtf allowed to use sophisticated weapons like the bandits use? undecided they were not licensed to use those grade of arm but short range guns like double barrel guns, so how do expect them to fight bandits with sophisticated weapons? undecided some of you armchair critics are very ignorant and just want to critique every govt policy and reform out of sheer bias and sentiment without having a knowledge of what the issues are undecided
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Kukutente23: 7:55am On Jun 26
SonOfDSoil01:
undecided are amotekun and Cjtf allowed to use sophisticated weapons like the bandits use? undecided they were not licensed to use those grade of arm but short range guns like double barrel guns, so how do expect them to fight bandits with sophisticated weapons? undecided some of you armchair critics are very ignorant and just want to critique every govt policy and reform out of sheer bias and sentiment without having a knowledge of what the issues are undecided
The most ignorant critics were those who shouted chanji in 2015, next lebu in 2019 and now drinking the bitter sop of renewed dope with a wry smile
You think it's sophistication of weapons that will solve the problem? So how come they are able to kill generals at will. Are generals also using short range ammunitions? You need to get sense bro. How many states can even afford to buy MRAPs and AK47 rifles for say a 3000 strong police force. Why don't you check how much AK47s cost? The CJTF don't even see a budget of close to 500m from most states yet you're expecting same states to spend 5bn or thereabouts on a police outfit. You guys keep clowning you hear
But more importantly, where did you see criticism in what I wrote? Do you really understand English?
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Kukutente23: 8:04am On Jun 26
Lithiumite:
There is no take off date that every state must start.... its as soon as practicable for every state.......some state might still not be able to get their dmstate police in 5 years but good thing about this development is that it changes the discourse of putting every insecurity blame on the president.... the govs will now be equally responsible fir insecurity in their states and if a giv is incapable, a SOE can be easily declared by the president, this will make the govs sit up and stop lazying about.
But your political god is allowed to lazy about right
So since he has failed in insecurity let's push it to the govs and then bring the roof down on them if they fail as well while excusing the grand failure of the Federal Republic
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Lithiumite: 9:54am On Jun 26
Kukutente23:
But your political god is allowed to lazy about right
So since he has failed in insecurity let's push it to the govs and then bring the roof down on them if they fail as well while excusing the grand failure of the Federal Republic
Let that state govs seat be vacated and you should ask for a SOE to be declared,martial law all through the state......you will be the first to start crying my political God is over reaching his powers to use against him at the polls......."do not entice me with it,I already know how to eat it"
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Kukutente23: 11:06am On Jun 26
Lithiumite:
Let that state govs seat be vacated and you should ask for a SOE to be declared,martial law all through the state......you will be the first to start crying my political God is over reaching his powers to use against him at the polls......."do not entice me with it,I already know how to eat it"
How does the state gov stop him from carrying out the functions of his office tht they need to be removed before he can secure the country?
Was he removed from office to secure Lagos during th OPC vs Hausa clash?
The govs need to be removed for him to perform but he needs them to win elections. See zombie logic
Una sef
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Lithiumite: 1:32pm On Jun 26
Kukutente23:
How does the state gov stop him from carrying out the functions of his office tht they need to be removed before he can secure the country?
Was he removed from office to secure Lagos during th OPC vs Hausa clash?
The govs need to be removed for him to perform but he needs them to win elections. See zombie logic
Una sef
Go ask the opc goons at the time,atleast one of them is still very much alive,go ask him if there was ever any love lost between them,federal can only succeed if the sudden national is willing to fully co operate.

To effectively curb insecurity menace across tbe states the entire political structure of the state has to totally give way,you arent deaf everytime you here state govs always negotiating ransoms without even putting up a policy to fight the menace but will keep pointing to Abuja to deceive his people.
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Kukutente23: 3:06pm On Jun 26
Lithiumite:
Go ask the opc goons at the time,atleast one of them is still very much alive,go ask him if there was ever any love lost between them,federal can only succeed if the sudden national is willing to fully co operate.

To effectively curb insecurity menace across tbe states the entire political structure of the state has to totally give way,you arent deaf everytime you here state govs always negotiating ransoms without even putting up a policy to fight the menace but will keep pointing to Abuja to deceive his people.
Stop peddling falsehood
Gani Adams has no issues with Tinubu till today. In fact, it was OBJ who declared Gani wanted and had him arrested. It had nothing to do with Tinubu's govt.
The govs pay ransom because APC propaganda machinery has been used to diffuse responsibility for security from the president to the govs since the time of Buhari
Why didn't we hear of any gov paying ransom for kidnapping when PDP was in govt? Because no one made it a responsibility of the states when terrorists strike like you people are doing now. It's because of political pressure that you lots are putting the govs under when they have no power to effect the security as you're expecting of them
So you blaming the govs is all political. There's nothing to be gained from it aside that
Re: State Police Biggest Security Reform In Decades — Metuh by Lithiumite: 4:31pm On Jun 26
Kukutente23:
Stop peddling falsehood
Gani Adams has no issues with Tinubu till today. In fact, it was OBJ who declared Gani wanted and had him arrested. It had nothing to do with Tinubu's govt.
The govs pay ransom because APC propaganda machinery has been used to diffuse responsibility for security from the president to the govs since the time of Buhari
Why didn't we hear of any gov paying ransom for kidnapping when PDP was in govt? Because no one made it a responsibility of the states when terrorists strike like you people are doing now. It's because of political pressure that you lots are putting the govs under when they have no power to effect the security as you're expecting of them
So you blaming the govs is all political. There's nothing to be gained from it aside that
You keep confidently beating your chest huffing and puffing ur ignorance.....gani Adams and tinubu on same page,its obvious you know zilch about the political dynamics of nigeria.........how can Nigeria be a federal Republic without sun national policing,you keep side stepping the bare facts kidnapping and insecurity has been a menace since obj era which started in the SS and those states have been paying ransom,alameiyeseigha,ibori,odili at the time,you have told several lies in your puerile post.......its been a part of our national discourse ever since that our national policing architecture is manifestly weak and inefficient......tinubu promised restructuring and he is already following up on that and you are here saying BS about the president all the way in Abuja being responsible for local security issues with peculiar dynamics.
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