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Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by jesusjnr2020(op):
Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You

Having a relationship with Jesus is good, however the hard but Gospel truth is, that alone may not be enough to save a soul from hell as many claim.

That's if we choose to go by the teachings of Jesus.

Luke 13:25-27 (KJV)

When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.


Now the people Jesus spake about on this occasion, weren't strangers but people who had a relationship with Jesus, but thought that alone was enough to be acknowledged and saved by Him.

However Jesus said He would not acknowledge them but tell them, "depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity".

Therefore having a relationship with Jesus, eating and drinking with Him, calling Him 'Lord", praying to Him and speaking in tongues etc., wouldn't be enough to save anyone from hell, if the person continues to work iniquity or live a sinful life.

God bless

Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by jesusjnr2020(op):
One particular person who had a close relationship while He was here on earth to the point Jesus called him brother, was Judas Iscariot.

He was among the 12 Jesus appointed as His apostles, and sent to preach the Gospel, empowered to heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demon and cure the lepers etc.

He was even the bag bearer and was also there in the last supper.

So he also ate and drank in Jesus presence, and knew the secret places Jesus resorted to when He wanted to retreat from the crowd.

But despite the close relationship he had with Jesus, he refused to repent of his sinful ways and works of iniquity.

That's why Jesus yet called him a devil and said "woe to that man" while He was yet eating the last supper with the same man regardless. Mark 14:21

Therefore salvation isn't just about having a relationship with Jesus, but having the right kind of relationship with Jesus, where we don't only call Him "Lord", but also keep His Word, which instructs us to repent and sin no more so we do not perish.

God bless.

Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by jesusjnr2020(op): 8:08am On Jun 28
This is a very important message which shouldn't be taken for granted, because it appears this error would be the greatest undoing of many Christians on that day according to the teachings of Jesus.

Jesus said many would suffer this fate on that day, not a few, because they thought their relationship with Him was enough to save them on that day, even though they refused to truly repent and quit working iniquity.

I pray we won't be among those who refused to take heed, and therefore would receive the greatest shock of their lives on judgement day, when the same Jesus they believed they had a relationship with, tells them, "depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity, I never knew you!"

God bless
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Dtruthspeaker: 9:01am On Jun 28
Jesus will not lock out a friend and a friend will not be locked out, so therefore, it means that those locked out, wrongly thought that by their being in His presence was a relationship. They need to go and study what a relationship means
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by jesusjnr2020(op): 7:55am On Jul 12
God has shown overtime that He can even relate with unrepentant sinners even prior to the coming of Jesus.

That's how God related with Cain despite knowing fully well of the evil in his heart that made Him reject Cain's offering, and warned him about before even the evil thoughts of Cain's heart manifested itself in the killing of Abel, who was righteous in God's sight hence whose offering God accepted.

God still related with Cain and listened to him even after he had murdered righteous Abel, to show that having a relationship with God, even to the point of God hearing and audibly speaking to the person, isn't enough for one to be acknowledged of God and partake of His Saving Grace, if one refuses to repent but continues to work iniquity.

It's only those who walk righteously before Him and are obedient to His Word that God that God truly knows as His own and would save from the wrath to come.

God bless.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Blakjewelry(m): 10:59am On Jul 12
Serve me or you are dead and will be punished, what a rule.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by socoharley: 11:02am On Jul 12
Who is Jesus to determine anything about the living when he's been long dead?
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Kobowood9: 11:10am On Jul 12
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Mrexcell(m): 11:28am On Jul 12
Jesus is obviously talking about false prophets, teachers and pastors who neither practice what they preach or were using demonic means to perform miracles in their churches.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by ReacherSaidNoth: 11:35am On Jul 12
This una one sided relationship, you talk to yourselves and think that a dead jew is answering.

You don't know what he looks like, he has never said hello to you, and you only got to know about him from a book with no updates, written by people who never met him like you.

Imagine saying you have a relationship with your dead ancestors and see how foolish that sounds.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by UncleAyo: 11:44am On Jul 12
Some people came to Africa, told us stories about a long dead guy from the middle east. Now everybody is having relationship with him and call him lord and God. Isn't that wonderful?

There is no deception greater than when one is deceiving himself.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Geometrix(m): 11:49am On Jul 12
What God gave to men through Jesus was a gift. Jesus said, " I give them eternal life and no one can take it from them"
And I believe you have read verdict of the Bible " that the GIft and calling of God" are without repentance.
I suggest you a book by watchman Nee " the normal Christian life" hopefully this sin consciousness would leave you and you accept the Gift God gave you.
And for clarity, it doesn't mean a Christian is is expected to be living anyhow.if he does that, he won't be effective in this realm but trust me the eternal destiny of men was factored in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. It was a plan not an after though conscripted before the foundation of the world
jesusjnr2020:
This is a very important message which shouldn't be taken for granted, because it appears this error would be the greatest undoing of many Christians on that day according to the teachings of Jesus.

Jesus said many would suffer this fate on that day, not a few, because they thought their relationship with Him was enough to save them on that day, even though they refused to truly repent and quit working iniquity.

I pray we won't be among those who refused to take heed, and therefore would receive the greatest shock of their lives on judgement day, when the same Jesus they believed they had a relationship with, tells them, "depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity, I never knew you!"

God bless
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by tiswell(m): 11:51am On Jul 12
The topic is as funny🤣 AF


The Bible already told us that only Jesus can save, hallelujah 👍
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by tiswell(m): 11:58am On Jul 12
jesusjnr2020:
One particular person who had a close relationship while He was here on earth to the point Jesus called him brother, was Judas Iscariot.

He was among the 12 Jesus appointed as His apostles, and sent to preach the Gospel, empowered to heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demon and cure the lepers etc.

He was even the bag bearer and was also there in the last supper.

So he also ate and drank in Jesus presence, and knew the secret places Jesus resorted to when He wanted to retreat from the crowd.

But despite the close relationship he had with Jesus, he refused to repent of his sinful ways and works of iniquity.

That's why Jesus yet called him a devil and said "woe to that man" while He was yet eating the last supper with the same man regardless. Mark 14:21

Therefore salvation isn't just about having a relationship with Jesus, but having the right kind of relationship with Jesus, where we don't only call Him "Lord", but also keep His Word, which instructs us to repent and sin no more so we do not perish.

God bless.
You misinterpreted the Bible.
Judas betrayal of Jesus was already prophesied in the book of Isaiah.
Judas was only chosen by the universe to fulfill the prophecy.
Judas was innocent,untill he was used to fulfill the prophecy.
He later hung himsef when he realized the gravity of what he has done and was also depressed for being the one chosen to fulfill a prophecy that was older than him.

Judas Iscariot actually made heaven!
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Zooposki(f): 11:58am On Jul 12
jesusjnr2020:
Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You

God bless
The only person that bleeds and dies for you to have life is your mother.

Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Jimmy231: 12:04pm On Jul 12
jesusjnr2020:
This is a very important message which shouldn't be taken for granted, because it appears this error would be the greatest undoing of many Christians on that day according to the teachings of Jesus.

Jesus said many would suffer this fate on that day, not a few, because they thought their relationship with Him was enough to save them on that day, even though they refused to truly repent and quit working iniquity.

I pray we won't be among those who refused to take heed, and therefore would receive the greatest shock of their lives on judgement day, when the same Jesus they believed they had a relationship with, tells them, "depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity, I never knew you!"

God bless
Those that call on the name of the lord should stay away from iniquities. What Jesus Christ will not do don’t do
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Basicend: 12:14pm On Jul 12
The first message of Jesus was emphasized on repentance of the man away from sin.

Therefore, any man that truly walks with Jesus does not walk in sin.

If you truly walk with Jesus, you will walk in righteousness of him.

Hence, Jesus is the only way. A true relationship with him is sufficient pathway to eternal salvation.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by olakan22: 12:17pm On Jul 12
If anyone believes in Jesus and acknowledges Him as Lord and Saviour, it is enough to save him. For everyone who calls upon the name of Jesus shall be saved
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by 99thEnemy(m): 12:24pm On Jul 12
To add…

I believe a true relationship with Jesus naturally leads to obedience, repentance and moral transformation.

Jesus did not say, "I knew you but your works were insufficient". He said, "I never knew you" (Matt. 7:23).

That suggests their relationship with Him was never genuine despite their religious activities.

At the same time, we cannot claim to know Christ while deliberately persisting in grave (mortal) sin without repentance.

So, a mere claim of having a relationship with Jesus will not save anyone. A genuine relationship with Him should transform how one lives.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by nairalandankrah: 12:24pm On Jul 12
Do not confuse BELONGING TO A CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION/CHURCH, WITH HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS
They are not the same thing...
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by jesusjnr2020(op): 12:29pm On Jul 12
Geometrix:
What God gave to men through Jesus was a gift. Jesus said, " I give them eternal life and no one can take it from them"
And I believe you have read verdict of the Bible " that the GIft and calling of God" are without repentance.
I suggest you a book by watchman Nee " the normal Christian life" hopefully this sin consciousness would leave you and you accept the Gift God gave you.
And for clarity, it doesn't mean a Christian is is expected to be living anyhow.if he does that, he won't be effective in this realm but trust me the eternal destiny of men was factored in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. It was a plan not an after though conscripted before the foundation of the world
After ya'll preached the antichrist grace which encourages and makes sin to abound, ya'll will start saying things like, "shall we continue in sin that grace may abound", or "it doesn't mean a Christian is is expected to be living anyhow", when that's exactly the inevitable result of that gospel that has nothing to do with Jesus.

Why preach the gospel at all if that's not the result you seek, because after doing so, you will have to say that at some point, as it will lead to a church where sin abounds as it is today.

You should've already seen that my final authority isn't the Bible but the teachings of Jesus, which you quoted but misinterpreted, because Jesus was actually speaking of His chosen disciples, and He said it was God that gave them to Him. But for God to do so, God must have seen the content of their hearts to do so, because He doesn't chose anyone as His servant before doing that. That's how He chose David after rejecting Saul, who is a proof that the saying about the gift and calling of God being without repentance did not come from God, as it doesn't align with His biblical character.

What Jesus Himself taught us is that any gift we received from God can be taken from us and given to someone else as He did to Saul if we misbehave or don't use it well. Matthew 21:43, Mark 4:24-25

But of course, y'all don't care about what Jesus says but whatever suits you in the Bible.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by emapeteum(m): 12:34pm On Jul 12
Your headline is deceitful. Your relationship with Christ is to keep his commandment. I don't know why you guys are acting as if smarter than the owner of the language. This is how Abel Damina has been twisting words to appear smarter before ignorant people.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Jammythebless: 12:34pm On Jul 12
What are you saying

why are you teaching a false doctrine
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by jesusjnr2020(op): 12:38pm On Jul 12
tiswell:
You misinterpreted the Bible.
Judas betrayal of Jesus was already prophesied in the book of Isaiah.
Judas was only chosen by the universe to fulfill the prophecy.
Judas was innocent,untill he was used to fulfill the prophecy.
He later hung himsef when he realized the gravity of what he has done and was also depressed for being the one chosen to fulfill a prophecy that was older than him.

Judas Iscariot actually made heaven!
I agree with you on the bolded, however the only reason is because he genuinely repented of his sin, and that's the entire point here.

Judas that used to love money so much to the point of doing anything for money to the point of betraying Jesus, now taking the money back was a clear evidence of that.

However prior to that, he was a devil according to Jesus, and also called a thief, and it seemed that he was doomed for hell, but for his genuine repentance, because God is not willing that anyone perished but that they all come to repentance.

That's why I believe God would forgive accept him, because I have ibserve how far God can go when a soul truly repents as shown severally in the Bible.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Agboogashi: 12:41pm On Jul 12
Does it not go without saying that once one works iniquity and lives a sinful life he or she cannot be in relationship with Jesus to start.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by karmaolu1(m): 12:46pm On Jul 12
am naturally saved so why believing in another unknown fictional human
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:46pm On Jul 12
Y'all should rest, these things fairytale
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by jesusjnr2020(op): 12:50pm On Jul 12
tiswell:
The topic is as funny🤣 AF


The Bible already told us that only Jesus can save, hallelujah 👍
The topic doesn't say Jesus alone cannot save, but that having a relationship with Him alone may not be enough for Him to save someone.

Jesus had a relationship even with His blood family members, however that wouldn't have been enough to save them, unless They truly repented and walked in obedience with God.

Jesus said, "unless ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish"
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by WantsandMore: 1:25pm On Jul 12
jesusjnr2020:
Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You

Having a relationship with Jesus is good, however the hard but Gospel truth is, that alone may not be enough to save a soul from hell as many claim.

That's if we choose to go by the teachings of Jesus.

Luke 13:25-27 (KJV)

When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.


Now the people Jesus spake about on this occasion, weren't strangers but people who had a relationship with Jesus, but thought that alone was enough to be acknowledged and saved by Him.

However Jesus said He would not acknowledge them but tell them, "depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity".

Therefore having a relationship with Jesus, eating and drinking with Him, calling Him 'Lord", praying to Him and speaking in tongues etc., wouldn't be enough to save anyone from hell, if the person continues to work iniquity or live a sinful life.

God bless
misleading title , poor delivery, how can someone with sincere relationship with Christ not make heaven when he already said no goes to the father except through me. This is a lazy sermon put together for a quick post. The chapter you have quoted refers to people who say they're with Christ but do otherwise in action. When Christ gave the power to evangelise and heal and banish unclean spirits, Judas Iscariot, who later betrayed Jesus was there. But look at his actions afterwards?
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by westside365: 1:31pm On Jul 12
jesusjnr2020:
Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You

Having a relationship with Jesus is good, however the hard but Gospel truth is, that alone may not be enough to save a soul from hell as many claim.

That's if we choose to go by the teachings of Jesus.

Luke 13:25-27 (KJV)

When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.


Now the people Jesus spake about on this occasion, weren't strangers but people who had a relationship with Jesus, but thought that alone was enough to be acknowledged and saved by Him.

However Jesus said He would not acknowledge them but tell them, "depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity".

Therefore having a relationship with Jesus, eating and drinking with Him, calling Him 'Lord", praying to Him and speaking in tongues etc., wouldn't be enough to save anyone from hell, if the person continues to work iniquity or live a sinful life.

God bless
You are very correct. Paul said work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
Re: Why A Relationship With Jesus Alone May Not Be Enough To Save You by Kimo21(m): 1:39pm On Jul 12
Mrexcell:
Jesus is obviously talking about false prophets, teachers and pastors who neither practice what they preach or were using demonic means to perform miracles in their churches.
He didn’t only die for prophets and teachers and it’s not only prophets and teachers that can cast out demons. The Bible says these signs shall follow ALL who believe that is Christian’s whether you have a title or not. Get your theology right before trying to argue.
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