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Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Osidazz19: 11:05pm On Jun 28
OlujobaSamuel:
No, there is a tipping system in the US which is different from other nations. Customer's are expected to tip service providers, especially those within the minimum wage bracket or below, and such tips are factored into their total income. If it doesn't meet up with the minimum wage, employers are expected to pay the difference.
Most of the time, the claim is that customers are only charged for the product the company is offering, that services in giving you such product isn't included in the charge.
It's not a system, it's a way tor employers to not pay their employees what they should have.
Why should I have to help them pay their salaries? Why.
Just charge me what the service or product is what and pay your employees whatever they are worth instead of putting thr burden on me.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 11:06pm On Jun 28
Osidazz19:
➜The worst part is they are now asking for tips for even carry out orders, buy things that no one really served you. Why should I tip just for handing over what I paid for?
So, long as you are eating out, expect to be asked for tips. It is simple! And it is not forced, as you have always had the option to make your own meals at home for yourself. undecided
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Omoawoke(m): 11:07pm On Jun 28
Kobojunkie:
. There's an alternative! Stay home and cook your meals yourself! It is simple! Eating out no be by force! undecided
No I won’t…
And I will should be angry with the tipping culture
They should pay their staff well
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 11:08pm On Jun 28
Osidazz19:
➜ It's not a system, it's a way tor employers to not pay their employees what they should have.
Wrong! It is actually also a way for employers to keep their food cheaply. If you have seen the thousands of videos of World Cup fans commenting about American food and the lot, you will note that the vast majority of them note that the food is seriously affordable here in America compared to their part of the world. There is a reason for that. undecided
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Osidazz19: 11:10pm On Jun 28
Kobojunkie:
It is OK to eat at home if you are uncomfortable with tipping. I personally don't like to eat out, so in a year, I may do it like 5 times or less. When I do, however, I like to calculate to make sure I have some money for tips before I do. undecided
I hardly eat out but I have to take my kids out sometimes or if I'm traveling for work.
I was in LA last week, they added 20 percent to the receipt automatically then still leave space for extra tip. I just bust out laughing. After 20 percent, they still asking for extra.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Sensiblerealist(m): 11:12pm On Jun 28
Na normal thing for Western world. Even the Western wannabes in Middle East dey follow suit but they don't make it compulsory .
In my job back then, I dey always pray for Western and local customers cuz at all at all go comot but you see those Asians, dem fit collect from you join am to their purse . Na Indians worse pass
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by LordLicifer(m): 11:12pm On Jun 28
PulaPower:
In the US, staff at some restaurants and bars are paid just over $2 (£1.50) an hour, and they expect customers to tip about 20% of the total cost of the bill so they can earn a living.

Frustrations have also been shared by hospitality staff, with one bar owner telling the BBC that many World Cup tourists have been bad tippers.


Lol..

Alman-Jiri USA version. The level of poverty in USA is alarming. Instead of their president to focus on that, he’s busy wasting money on frivolities..

You won’t know how overrated USA is until you arrived there. All those propaganda you do read on their media go first of all clear for your eye..
What is tipping staff in the US got to do with US president? Employers should pay their workers decent wages that is all!

US poverty level is alarming acording to you, yet nigerians queue everyday at the US consulate begging and crying for US visa, some are praying and fasting for a US visa. The queue at the US visa office in nigeria is longer than Boston to California.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Osidazz19: 11:14pm On Jun 28
Kobojunkie:
Wrong! It is actually also a way for employers to keep their food cheaply. If you have seen the thousands of videos of World Cup fans commenting about American food and the lot, you will note that the vast majority of them note that the food is seriously affordable here in America compared to their part of the world. There is a reason for that. undecided
True, I agree that f99d is cheaper in the US compared to Europe but not to the rest of the world. Food is cheaper in many other parts of the world.
They should just add the extra price and get rid of the tipping culture that they're trying to force on us all.
You are eating and you are thinking about how much you have to tip...hahaj
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 11:15pm On Jun 28
Osidazz19:
➜I hardly eat out but I have to take my kids out sometimes or if I'm traveling for work.
I was in LA last week, they added 20 percent to the receipt automatically then still leave space for extra tip. I just bust out laughing. After 20 percent, they still asking for extra.
Anything LA/California, expect it to be more expensive than average. undecided
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 11:17pm On Jun 28
Osidazz19:
➜True, I agree that f99d is cheaper in the US compared to Europe but not to the rest of the world. Food is cheaper in many other parts of the world.
➜ They should just add the extra price and get rid of the tipping culture that they're trying to force on us all. You are eating and you are thinking about how much you have to tip...hahaj
1. People from all over the world are the ones admitting to this themselves. undecided

2. They don't want to do that because they are banking on you being intelligent enough to educate yourself on the reasons for the tipping culture and to voluntarily give what you are most comfortable with between 15% and 20%.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by OlujobaSamuel: 11:18pm On Jun 28
Osidazz19:
It's not a system, it's a way tor employers to not pay their employees what they should have.
Why should I have to help them pay their salaries? Why.
Just charge me what the service or product is what and pay your employees whatever they are worth instead of putting thr burden on me.
Apologies, I've added more with examples. It speaks to your 2nd paragraph. You can check it out.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Adakintroy: 11:19pm On Jun 28
Just call.them civilize agberos and we can all go home.

If thel come here them go come complain about the same culture of street begging and tipping at airport l, while they I vent there own format with no one to critic it.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 11:20pm On Jun 28
Adakintroy:
➜Just call.them civilize agberos and we can all go home.
If thel come here them go come complain about the same culture of street begging and tipping at airport l, while they I vent there own format with no one to critic it.
Same culture? undecided
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Father4all: 11:28pm On Jun 28
Front a black man I guess
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Breaker001: 11:31pm On Jun 28
Can you imagine; giving a tip for buying a bottle of water. Tip kò, tipper nī 😂
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Emeskhalifa(m): 11:35pm On Jun 28
jordyspices:
Na the same thing for nigeria every body dey expect small thing security man oh bank staff oh even the police is not left out
Na that bank own dey vex me pass grin
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by nedekid: 11:37pm On Jun 28
hakeemhakeem:
Don't just bring Nigeria into this, if you can't discuss on the matter
Did he make a false statement?
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by kaludestiny10(m): 11:41pm On Jun 28
Thank you for the explanation. It was well detailed.
OlujobaSamuel:
No, there is a tipping system in the US which is different from other nations. Customer's are expected to tip service providers, especially those within the minimum wage bracket or below, and such tips are factored into their total income. If it doesn't meet up with the minimum wage, employers are expected to pay the difference.
Most of the time, the claim is that customers are only charged for the product the company is offering, that services in giving you such product isn't included in the charge.
Eg, on Uber, you can tip a driver at the end of a trip, some drivers will even demand for it which is legitimate in their system. For instance, you are carrying excess luggage, or lot's of items, the driver uses about 5 to 10mins extra just to pick you up, that's a service not included in the fare, it is expected that you tip for it. Here, the driver will negotiate the ride instead of waiting for the tip.
You entered a restaurant in a place like VI, there is every tendency that the waiters are paid minimum wage which can't get any accommodation around, so they have to travel from outskirts to serve you, as no one that is comfortable enough to rent an apartment in such area is willing to do such job, the tipping system expects that you appreciate their coming to such location to serve you, even though you are paying for the product (meal) already.
The system is used to protect small businesses so they can break even by having enough hands to meet demand without having to use all funds for salary apym6
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by chopnaira: 11:44pm On Jun 28
Stingy people. If you can pay thousands of dollars for airline and stadium tickets, sparing a 15% tip after a taxi ride or meal should not be that bad.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by cococandy(f): 11:47pm On Jun 28
You know ball!

FSBoperator:
Tipping culture goes as far back to when slavery was abolished in the US.

The newly emancipated slaves were barely being paid for mental jobs they could get .

Some chose to outrightly work for themselves on small plots of land .

Those who couldn't afford land or were not bestowed land by their former slave masters had to work on same plantations for next to nothing.

This led to many former slaves refusing to work unless they were paid descent wages.

To counter this, the Dixie south passed laws that made being unemployed illegal. This is the so-called Niggardly laws which was passed to criminalise unemployment in the emancipated slave population.

The Federal govt saw where this was going and knew the unrepentant Dixie south wanted to continue slavery by all means by forcing freed slaves to work for next to nothing .

So the US federal govt passed laws mandating a minimum wage and made it illegal to work for free.

To counter this, most of the Dixie south decided to arrest as much of the freed men to work in prison plantations and have freed women work as housemaids and waiters who were paid for their services in room and board (for maids) and those waiting on tables on tips.

Tipping culture has it's deep roots in American slavery and most waiters/waitresses were mostly coloured folks up till the 70s when young white college students needed extra money.

People forget that America was founded on genocide and slavery .

Fought a civil war over slavery as an institution.

Miscegenation was a criminal offense up till the 60s in most states in the south .

And America only ended racial apartheid in the 60s.

America is not the holy land most people think it is and there are still relics of that slave legacy as we can see with tipping culture, the Prison industrial complex and the free labour it extracts from imprisoned people, section 8 segregated housing , this tipping culture .

America still maintains that forced labour aka slavery is still valid but on the condition that the individuals subjected to such are imprisoned.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by QuinQQ: 11:48pm On Jun 28
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by thatigboman: 11:52pm On Jun 28
If I were there, I would pay anything since xenophobic south africans are out
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by nkemjacob2(m): 12:06am On Jun 29
Reno has seen an excuse
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by FSBoperator: 12:06am On Jun 29
Kobojunkie:
BBC and nonsense! What is confusing about tipping 15%-20%? undecided
How would you understand?

When waiters are being paid far below minimum wage of $11 and are only earning $1.50 to $2 per hour salaries.

Why can't waiters earn a minimum wage?

This tipping culture only exists elsewhere around the world in strip bars were women are not paid by the establishment to dance n@ked to their clientele but rely on tips thrown at them.

This is demeaning and waiters don't even know how much they will get after a day's work .

So if you don't have a fixed guaranteed income, besides the insulting $2 per hour being paid by your employer,but depend on tips which as a waiter you must share with other waiters and kitchen staff, how are you going to plan your life ?

In Vegas, they even charge a mandatory management fee or whatever the fck that is alongside mandatory tipping fees added to your bill.

One may end up paying close to 40% on an overpriced expensive dish if you ever dine in any of the casino restaurants.

Best place to dine out in the US , is the all you can eat buffets or cafeterias.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Amalekki: 12:09am On Jun 29
emmy512:
did a job worth 780 usd for an american client two years ago and she tipped about 150, the nigerian in me was shocked, but who am I to say no
Tipping is only for specific services. Are you sure you didn't make this up? grin
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by FSBoperator: 12:11am On Jun 29
Kobojunkie:
It is OK to eat at home if you are uncomfortable with tipping. I personally don't like to eat out, so in a year, I may do it like 5 times or less. When I do, however, I like to calculate to make sure I have some money for tips before I do. undecided
Mr Americana don drop motivational quote.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 12:17am On Jun 29
FSBoperator:
➜How would you understand? When waiters are being paid far below minimum wage of $11 and are only earning $1.50 to $2 per hour salaries. Why can't waiters earn a minimum wage?
➜ This tipping culture only exists elsewhere around the world in strip bars were women are not paid by the establishment to dance n@ked to their clientele but rely on tips thrown at them.
➜ This is demeaning and waiters don't even know how much they will get after a day's work .
➜ So if you don't have a fixed guaranteed income, besides the insulting $2 per hour being paid by your employer,but depend on tips which as a waiter you must share with other waiters and kitchen staff, how are you going to plan your life ?
In Vegas, they even charge a mandatory management fee or whatever the fck that is alongside mandatory tipping fees added to your bill.
One may end up paying close to 40% on an overpriced expensive dish if you ever dine in any of the casino restaurants.
Best place to dine out in the US , is the all you can eat buffets or cafeterias.
1. You forget that waitressing as a job is not mandatory or forced. An individual can choose to work undecided

2. Here are two resources to help engage you in answering the questions you have there.
* https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/15-tipped-employees-flsa
* https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

3. That is not true. Also, tipping culture in the US came from Europe over 50 years ago. undecided

4. Again, the work is not forced or mandatory. undecided

Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by lagonovo: 12:18am On Jun 29
emmy512:
did a job worth 780 usd for an american client two years ago and she tipped about 150, the nigerian in me was shocked, but who am I to say no
The same thing happened to my friend Linus in 1991 cool
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 12:18am On Jun 29
FSBoperator:
➜ You are deranged nitwit. Tipping culture is rooted in post slavery America and was what was the only payment system available to emancipated black slaves who worked as doormen, porters and waiters. You just know nothing whatsoever.
Rooted in Post slavery? Are you sure you are OK in the head? undecided
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