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XTruth:
Lol Nigeria already had a military Base Sha keep feeding your ignorance. Tell me which country the USA fought a war with and refuse building a base in it.

But, why does the USA build a base in a country they fought with,
If they didn't "win" the war?



I thought they had never won any wars?


Also, you can see how moral a country can be to win a war and still allow the country to remain a country, not a colony, but with only a base.

yinkus6750:
Everyone knows the beginning of a war, but no one knows how it's going to end.
Four months running, the war has affected most nations worldwide.
Trump will go all out to revenge all that Iran has cost the US.
This war shouldn't have started

All that Iran has cost the US
Nonsense talk, carry talk, USA nor cost me in Nigeria anything, how much is price of gas, .USA nor cost Iran 168 children your pikin or your sister pikin supposed dey ground
What about bridges and things the USA cause
Okay fine why isreal nor attack when Biden and Obama dey office?
Why USA nor attack Iran for trump first tenure?
Trump tore the Obama deal during his first tenure why isreal nor strike dat time ?

XTruth:
Lol when was the last time Israel attacked beruit. That was the question.

It was the last time Hezbollah carried out an attack from a control center in Beirut.
That was the last time.

Now, Iran's wishful demands are not "Beirut" bro.
It is LEBANON.
And Israel is pounding Lebanon like yellow fufu.

XTruth:
Lol reason they are asking Facebook to help them delete missile impact footage lol

Ok, I agree.
They told them to delete the footage that took out Netanyahu and gave him 7 fingers.



The funny things that make you guys happy.

Iran may not win militarily against the US but they've won strategically because of the Strait of Hormuz

Obaofaba:
No wonder trump is threatening fire and brimstones.

The truth is, Iran is not scarred of the US and Israel.

While Iran cannot win the US in a war, Israel can be flattened by the Iranians.

educatedfool:
Oh, I almost forgot...

Last year we were told Iran's nuclear program was "completely and totally obliterated."

This year we're told it had to be "obliterated" again

And somehow, after being "obliterated" twice, the United States is still sitting across the table negotiating with Iran over... its nuclear program.

That's fascinating.

If it was truly "obliterated," what exactly are they negotiating about? Ghost centrifuges? Imaginary uranium? Invisible enrichment? Or maybe "obliterated" doesn't mean what you think it means.

It's funny how the story changes depending on the audience. One day it's "mission accomplished," the next day it's "we need another strike," and then it's "let's negotiate a deal."

Oh yes,
I think you don't understand English too much.
Mut "obliterated" means obliterated anytime it is being called upon in the future.

Negotiations on the Nuclear issue are based on powder that lies in the ruins of their obliterated nuclear facilities, and also on their innate pursuit to obtain it. The US knows that it is more costly to come around to carry out the same process in the future than it is to just give them a reason not to even want to build it.

And yes, if Iran starts building again today, which they surely will, they will need another strike.
And that strike will be said to "obliterate" it.
Simple English, bro.

Now do your homework on why Iran hates the US so much

Ayatollah banned Iran from having nuclear weapons but he grew up in a time where he saw the aftermath of the US overthrowing Iran's democratic leader to steal their oil. That's why he hated the West

I don't condone hate though but it's good to know history to have a better understanding of such situations

WorkTheTalk:
Iran will never follow through on any MOU.
Iran will never agree to a deal.
Iran will never give up its nuclear ambitions.
Iran will never voluntarily give up control of the Strait.
Iran will never stop supporting terrorists proxies.
Iran will never be a normal country under this regime.

The sole purpose of the Islamic republic of Iran's existence is for "Death to America, death to Isreal". Trump can keep fooling around; Netanyahu will handle the terrorists regime appropriately.





When are you and the other terrorists supporters going to attand the burial of that supreme terrorist, Ayatollah? And won't you people give a befitting burial to the over 70 Iranian nuclear scientists, IRGC leaders and military generals killed by the IDF? Or they should all be left in the rubble like ants?

educatedfool:
You keep saying "Facts," but your list contains opinions, disputed claims, and exaggerations.

Let's deal with actual facts.

First, military success and legality are two different things. Killing senior officials through surprise strikes does not automatically prove strategic or moral superiority. It simply means one side successfully carried out an operation.

Second, there is no credible evidence for your claim that "90 Iranian generals were cleared in the first 30 minutes." Repeating an unverified number doesn't turn it into a fact.

Third, despite all the rhetoric, Iran has generally responded by targeting military installations, intelligence sites, and strategic infrastructure rather than publicly adopting a policy of assassinating the elected leaders of other countries in their homes. Whether one agrees with Iran's actions or not, there is a distinction between attacking military objectives and deliberately targeting political leaders.

Fourth, if Israel's position were as comfortable as you portray, it would not require continuous U.S. military, diplomatic, intelligence, and defensive support. Israel has formidable military capabilities, but U.S. backing remains a central pillar of its security.

Finally, wars are not judged by social media victory laps or casualty lists. They are judged by whether strategic objectives are achieved. If either side still possesses the capability and willingness to continue fighting, declaring total victory is premature.

So don't call it "facts" when much of your post consists of disputed claims and selective omissions. Facts require evidence, not confidence.

"....They are judged by whether strategic objectives are achieved."



Please list just one strategic objective (strategic or non-strategic) of Iran in this war, apart from survival?

The term "strategic objectives" in war is a term of recent coinage, born by the US need to align with its internal political pressure where a loud minority of immigrants and their online grifters made the majority believe that there is no need for a war. And so, the government had to say, "This is not a war, but an operation with strategic objectives of... nuclear program,...missile production facilities,...drone production facilities,...ability to project strength."

You just want to use that term to judge America by it, but you unfortunately failed to realize that if you apply it to Iran, it falls flat.

All wars are judged by one measure: "surrender or total obliteration of the enemy."
Iraq, Afghanistan, Japan, Vietnam, Nazi Germany, Libya, etc.
That is how wars are judged.

Even though we very much agree that such a system is changing, with the increase in religious influence in warfare, in which people measure victory by loss. Such that a Hamas, Hezbollah, IRGC, etc can be losing men and land, but as far as they still poke out their head to inflict anyloss, no matter how small it is, they refer to themselves as winners. They even refer to their loss as martyrdom. In that case, victory will now soon switch to total obliteration. If not, they will regroup again, even after 30 years, return, and claim that they have always been victorious. I bet you, if the Shah of Iran is mistakenly made to take control of Iran for 1 day, you will understand the meaning of total obliteration of the IRGC. It will be deadly. It will be bad. Because he knows what Jeehard is. He knows that it can stay low for 50 years and still rear its head. The US doesn't know.

AngelicBeing:
You are a joker, weakened US bases in the Gulf, how?

All the military bases in the Gulf were financed by The respective GCC government to protect their various interests and citizens against the useless Ayacriminals that you are supporting.

America has no dog in this fight because at the end of the day, it is the same Gulf countries that will pay or repair all the military bases and hardware that have been destroyed.

America is the Greatest Nation on earth, deal with that,

The GCC region will prefer American troops and protection till the end of the world otherwise lran will topple and finish all of them

Apart from few US soldiers that are dead, America is the winner of this battle

The US are been sympathetic to the iranian civilian population otherwise, lran will be a right off and completely destroyed by the US.


MAKE UNA dey online dey yarn durst

Iran is currently a dead and useless country, almost all their High ranking Military officers are in hell Fire 🔥, lots of infrastructure and economic activities destroyed , and you are in your room in Mushin talking nonsense ooooooooo mucheche Hahaha 😂

Iran is dead but continues to rain drones on US bases. Google is there for you to confirm who financed and built all the bases in middle east. Only toddler argued blindly like you did when evidences are all the internet

zinaunreal:
Seems you replied with a hang over. Stop drinking

I drank champagne yesterday....but go and sleep when you are tired ...don't force yourself to stay online

Helinuse:
"That is their war plan and they've been executing it strategically"



Seems like this IRGC has many war plans that only Nigerian Iranians know about.


The IRGC was, in fact, OVERATED.
They mouthed that they were the most powerful country after America, Russia, and China.
And that was their greatest undoing. They made a Super Power like Israel treat them as a co-superpower, and that is why the first 30 seconds of the war resulted in the humiliation and the shame of the IRGC, exposing them to be a mere ragtag terrorista group with their only potent "strategy" as pirating the high seas as common criminals.




I hope you know that ALL the people who are negotiating with the US are only alive simply because Israel was restrained by the US with a "no-keel" list?



Was that part of their "war plan?"

Just pray that or advice US to stay out the war and see what Iran would turn Israel to. Even Trump knew this and he said publicly that Iran can wiped out Israel out of map because of it's size

heysquare:
Just pray that or advice US to stay out the war and see what Iran would turn Israel to. Even Trump knew this and he said publicly that Iran can wiped out Israel out of map because of it's size

Oh yes, even Israel knew that if Iran had developed their nuclear weapon, that was the goal.
But USA decided to step in with their bunker buster to rewind time back to 50 years for the Iranians.

But without the nukes, which in any way, Israel wouldn't have allowed them to have it,
Iranian supreme leaders and generals would still be running around tunnels like rats.



Or what will they have wiped Israel with?
Missiles? Or Air Force? Or Navy? Which one?

Lol that's your fantasy.
The same bunker buster they use in Iran missiles cities and there were still firing missiles from those cities.. Lol Iran was able to reach enrichment up to 60%... And you think if they ever wanted to get a nuke they won't have.

Una just funny. I understand the hustle continue by if you nor see the visa nor mad enter road oo.

Trump know why he rush get peace deal.

Helinuse:
Oh yes, even Israel knew that if Iran had developed their nuclear weapon, that was the goal.
But USA decided to step in with their bunker buster to rewind time back to 50 years for the Iranians.

But without the nukes, which in any way, Israel wouldn't have allowed them to have it,
Iranian supreme leaders and generals would still be running around tunnels like rats.



Or what will they have wiped Israel with?
Missiles? Or Air Force? Or Navy? Which one?

heysquare:
Iran is dead but continues to rain drones on US bases. Google is there for you to confirm who financed and built all the bases in middle east. Only toddler argued blindly like you did when evidences are all the internet

Na you be toddler and kindergarten in your post, whether you believe it or not, America is not stupid to be protecting Islamic countries free of charge, if you like argue with your keyboard like a kindergarten kid ooooooooo mucheche 😂

GuestInfinity:
Now do your homework on why Iran hates the US so much

Ayatollah banned Iran from having nuclear weapons but he grew up in a time where he saw the aftermath of the US overthrowing Iran's democratic leader to steal their oil. That's why he hated the West

I don't condone hate though but it's good to know history to have a better understanding of such situations

Khamenei's opposition to Western influence stems from multiple factors: his Shi'a Islamist ideology, support for the 1979 Iranian Revolution, opposition to foreign intervention, regional politics, sanctions, and historical grievances including the 1953 coup.

XTruth:
Lol that's your fantasy.
The same bunker buster they use in Iran missiles cities and there were still firing missiles from those cities.. Lol Iran was able to reach enrichment up to 60%... And you think if they ever wanted to get a nuke they won't have.

Una just funny. I understand the hustle continue by if you nor see the visa nor mad enter road oo.

Trump know why he rush get peace deal.

Ok, that is true, USA rushed and made a deal because Iran was about to take over Los Angeles.
Iran won. I agree.

XTruth:
Lol beruit is still called Hezbollah stronghold.

Shit you don't even know the you are fighting.

Fake jew.

If it is their stronghold,
Why can't they easily over throw the government?
Abi they like the government ni?




Original Iranian.

Obaofaba:
No wonder trump is threatening fire and brimstones.

The truth is, Iran is not scarred of the US and Israel.

While Iran cannot win the US in a war, Israel can be flattened by the Iranians.

Israel can be flattened by the Iranians na all this kind talks and mouth dey make me dey laugh for where all this muzlims dey .


Israel a country that has about 500 atomic bombs i mean 500 nuclear weapons in their disposal ready to be used anytime anyday. . Na him Iran that is still struggling to develop just 1 atomic bomb wan go flatten

Jokers of the century.

Just like saying Philippine will flatten or level North Korea very soon with their missiles.

It all started with the 1953 coup and the chaos and suffering that ensued as a result of it

WorkTheTalk:
Khamenei's opposition to Western influence stems from multiple factors: his Shi'a Islamist ideology, support for the 1979 Iranian Revolution, opposition to foreign intervention, regional politics, sanctions, and historical grievances including the 1953 coup.

Arrowhead71:
I drank champagne yesterday....but go and sleep when you are tired ...don't force yourself to stay online

See this kaikai man . Did I ask you what you drank? Cheap thing

Helinuse:
"....They are judged by whether strategic objectives are achieved."



Please list just one strategic objective (strategic or non-strategic) of Iran in this war, apart from survival?

The term "strategic objectives" in war is a term of recent coinage, born by the US need to align with its internal political pressure where a loud minority of immigrants and their online grifters made the majority believe that there is no need for a war. And so, the government had to say, "This is not a war, but an operation with strategic objectives of... nuclear program,...missile production facilities,...drone production facilities,...ability to project strength."

You just want to use that term to judge America by it, but you unfortunately failed to realize that if you apply it to Iran, it falls flat.

All wars are judged by one measure: "surrender or total obliteration of the enemy."
Iraq, Afghanistan, Japan, Vietnam, Nazi Germany, Libya, etc.
That is how wars are judged.

Even though we very much agree that such a system is changing, with the increase in religious influence in warfare, in which people measure victory by loss. Such that a Hamas, Hezbollah, IRGC, etc can be losing men and land, but as far as they still poke out their head to inflict anyloss, no matter how small it is, they refer to themselves as winners. They even refer to their loss as martyrdom. In that case, victory will now soon switch to total obliteration. If not, they will regroup again, even after 30 years, return, and claim that they have always been victorious. I bet you, if the Shah of Iran is mistakenly made to take control of Iran for 1 day, you will understand the meaning of total obliteration of the IRGC. It will be deadly. It will be bad. Because he knows what Jeehard is. He knows that it can stay low for 50 years and still rear its head. The US doesn't know.

Your entire argument collapses because you invented your own definition of war.

You asked for one Iranian strategic objective? Easy:

To deter future attacks by imposing costs on Israel and the US. That's a textbook strategic objective. States don't have to conquer or obliterate an enemy to achieve strategic goals.

You also claim, "All wars are judged by surrender or total obliteration." Really?

Did the US totally obliterate Vietnam?
Did it totally obliterate Afghanistan?
Did it totally obliterate Iraq's insurgency?
Did it totally obliterate the Taliban? They came back and took over the country.
Did Israel totally obliterate Hezbollah after 2006?

Modern wars are judged by whether political and military objectives are achieved, not by some movie-style "total annihilation" fantasy you just made up.

The funniest part is you mocked "strategic objectives," yet your own examples prove the opposite. Nations don't spend billions on wars just to count bodies; they fight to achieve political outcomes.

Helinuse:
Oh yes, even Israel knew that if Iran had developed their nuclear weapon, that was the goal.
But USA decided to step in with their bunker buster to rewind time back to 50 years for the Iranians.

But without the nukes, which in any way, Israel wouldn't have allowed them to have it,
Iranian supreme leaders and generals would still be running around tunnels like rats.



Or what will they have wiped Israel with?
Missiles? Or Air Force? Or Navy? Which one?

You meant during the war, Natayahu was playing on the streets of Tel-Aviv while the citizens ran into the Bunkers

Helinuse:
These ones just know how to turn on the mumu button of Nigerian Iranians.


Something is wrong with the average IRGC mind. Their aim is always to give their Nigerian followers something to be happy about.
But notice that nothing concerns them with Israel.
Dem know say, if they mistakenly send even one missile, Israel's targets are not just "sites" like the Americans. Their targets are such that there has to be a "no-keel" list for some people to survive so that negotiations can happen.




I dare any Nigerian Iranian to name just one IRGC leader that is alive today without making it to the "no-keel" list.
Just one.

youre pained, obviously

Helinuse:
Oh yes,
I think you don't understand English too much.
Mut "obliterated" means obliterated anytime it is being called upon in the future.

Negotiations on the Nuclear issue are based on powder that lies in the ruins of their obliterated nuclear facilities, and also on their innate pursuit to obtain it. The US knows that it is more costly to come around to carry out the same process in the future than it is to just give them a reason not to even want to build it.

And yes, if Iran starts building again today, which they surely will, they will need another strike.
And that strike will be said to "obliterate" it.
Simple English, bro.

You really typed all that just to admit the exact point I made.

Your argument is literally:

"It was obliterated... but they'll rebuild it... then we'll have to obliterate it again."

Read that slowly.

If something has to be "obliterated again," then the first "obliteration" clearly didn't eliminate the capability permanently. You don't keep killing a dead horse every few years and call it permanently dead.

This is why negotiations are still happening. If everything was truly "obliterated" in the way you keep pretending, why negotiate at all? Why threaten future strikes? Why monitor enrichment?

Because everyone involved understands something you don't: bombing facilities can delay a nuclear program, but it doesn't erase scientific knowledge, industrial capacity, or political intent.

You keep confusing destroying buildings with eliminating a capability. They're not the same thing.

And please stop lecturing about "simple English" while using "obliterated" to describe something you admit may need to be destroyed again.

The moment their missiles leaves the ground, they have destroyed the aggressor.

These same bases they destroyed before

zinaunreal:
See this kaikai man . Did I ask you what you drank? Cheap thing

What is kaikai

Arrowhead71:
What is kaikai

As your father the local champion

Arrowhead71:
My father....
Is it how low you are in your head ..I thought am talking to human ....now I know you Children of Ishmael have no respect for their fathers

You can also ask him about your lack of sense

You are still not making any atom of sense cos you couldn't answer the questions i presented to you.

We argue to learn, but i don't see anything to learn from your whack responses.

I'll have to pass. ‼️

Helinuse:
Counter?
Oh so you notice that I am not countering your claims?
That is good.




Well, I will tell you why: arguments are for those who have an opinion and are willing to change their perspective based on facts presented by another person if it is more convincing. With someone who is not ready to see the truth and change, but prefers to hold on to a lie to keep their happiness, it is no more an argument, but a waste of time.



So, I agree with you:
The wiping of Khamenei didn't achieve anything
The wiping out of Al-Baghdadi didn't achieve anything
The wiping out of Gaddafi didn't achieve anything
The wiping out of Osama didn't achieve anything.

Al-Baghdadi's ISIS is still a powerful group, projecting power out of Syria
Osama Al-Qaeda is still a powerful group, projecting power out of Afghanistan
Libya is still an influential nation, projecting power out of North Africa

I guess, in the same way, IRGC, in some months, will still be a powerful group, projecting power out of Iran.

zinaunreal:
You can also ask him about your lack of sense

Madman continue talking