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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by christ007(m): 3:44pm On Jun 29 |
BIGGIE121:When giving clients an estimate, please try to specify the type of materials you're using. This helps clients understand exactly what they're paying for and prevents misunderstandings after the job is completed. Your pricing looks good, but I believe this estimate is based on the use of local color materials. I charge a similar rate when a client chooses local colors. If the client prefers imported materials, the price will naturally be different. Being clear about the materials included in your quotation helps clients make informed decisions and ensures they get the quality they expect. Peace and love, brother. 🤝 |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 4:21pm On Jun 29 |
by decatalyst:WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, PLS LET ME KNOW UR SITE AND ISSUES AND OTHER THINGS I NEED TO KNOW, U CAN'T BE QUOTE ME OUT WITHOUT KNOW MY OFFENSE AND THE DETAILS OF THE STUFF, I AM BEGGING U NOW AND FOREVER THAT IF U CAN'T COME OUT AND SAY THIS PLS DON'T QUOTE ME OUT AGAIN, I SENT THIS TO U, AND KEEP IT FOR RECORD POUPOSE, THANKS, |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by darc: 6:04pm On Jun 29 |
darc:ACTIVE
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 7:16pm On Jun 29 |
christ007:This is the one we did. We bought all materials and the landscaping guys provided labor. Their price per square meter was not even up to what he just said. You are making look as if his price is low for a good job. But it’s not. Even. The coloring is the least in the material used for this project. So, yes 5k sqm is competitive and ok for the job anywhere.
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by christ007(m): 7:46pm On Jun 29 |
sonnie10:. Bro, did you read my message carefully before replying? Can you explain the difference between color hardener and oxide hardener? I would also appreciate it if you could tell me when you completed that project and, if possible, share recent pictures of the same job. I already visited his page, and I must say his work looks good. However, from what I saw, most of the projects appear to have been done using oxide colors rather than imported color hardeners. That's exactly why I said that when giving clients an estimate, we should clearly state the type of materials being used. We're all craftsmen here, and nobody is trying to spoil another person's business. When a client can't afford imported materials, I explain the available options and let them choose what fits their budget. That way, there are no misunderstandings. Also, when clients ask questions, it's important that we can confidently explain our work and the materials we're using. One more thing to keep in mind is that material prices change regularly. Before giving an estimate, always check the current market prices so you don't end up making a loss or going into debt while the project is ongoing. Peace and love, brother. We're all here to learn and grow together. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by veekid(m): 7:53pm On Jun 29 |
Well detailed,I'll take my time to read and circle back... Thank you sir. christ007: |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by christ007(m): 7:58pm On Jun 29 |
veekid:you welcome sir |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chairmanawe(m): 8:07pm On Jun 29 |
Thank you sir Skydivine: |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 8:27pm On Jun 29*. Modified: 8:56pm On Jun 29 |
christ007:We did this at the beginning of this year and I was in Nigeria last 2 week and made the video. Now , If I don’t acknowledge the root of your protest, it would be unfair and injustice. I sense your anger was related to the fact that he was too quick to respond to a potential client who had directed their estimate inquiry to you. Normally, he should have waited for you to response first. Having said that, the truth of the matter is that colorings are not that expensive, whether oxide or harder, even the imported ones. It does not add much to the total difference of the job. The real money goes to cement , mesh wire and granite and labor. Especially cement. I don’t think he had any intention to under quote in order to grab the client or cut it from you. Think of it this way, how will you feel if another vendor comes up and say that you are not giving an honest quote ?. That you are deliberately hiding other items like the cost of clearing the space, sand filling, leveling and compacting. And you know these things must be done first before the actual work. At the owners expense. Some client might feel deceived if they do not have this information before committing to the project. So, Live and lets live makes the world go round. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BIGGIE121(m): 9:03pm On Jun 29 |
christ007:Bros no offense meant ooo you and I both know that, there is nothing like local or foreign colour materials. I wouldn't say more than that. Peace ✌️ |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by christ007(m): 9:05pm On Jun 29 |
sonnie10:Bro, I think you're misunderstanding my point. Why would I be angry? He replied to someone who asked a question, and as fellow professionals, there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, he did the right thing because both of us are not the only people doing this job. My only suggestion was that whenever we give clients an estimate, we should clearly state the type of materials we're using. That way, clients can make an informed decision based on their budget and the quality they want. Abeg, no reason am that way. Tomorrow, you and I might even work together on the same project if one of us is too busy. We're colleagues, not competitors. Also, from my observation, I don't think you've spent up to 10 years in this line of work yet, so there are still many things you'll learn with experience. I've been doing this for about 15 years, and most of my clients come through referrals, nairaland and Jiji. Experience has taught me that being transparent with clients about materials and pricing helps avoid misunderstandings and builds trust. Peace and love, bro. We're all here to grow and help each other. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BIGGIE121(m): 9:13pm On Jun 29 |
christ007:Thank God you said it yourself that the two colors are Good . Peace bro everywhere good. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by christ007(m): 9:16pm On Jun 29 |
BIGGIE121:Bro, who told you there's no such thing as imported color hardener? Please don't let clients see that statement because it's not accurate. When you mention brands like TPave or Romacrete UAE color hardener, those are imported products. That's why I said it's important to tell clients exactly what materials you're using when giving them an estimate. We're all in the same business, and I pray the jobs God gives you will never pass me by, just as the ones He gives me won't pass you by. There's enough work for everyone. These pictures are from my own completed projects. Can you point out which one you believe was done with imported color hardener? Let's discuss professionally so we can all learn from each other. Peace and love, brother. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by christ007(m): 9:18pm On Jun 29 |
BIGGIE121:Bro, who told you there's no such thing as imported color hardener? Please don't let clients see that statement because it's not accurate. When you mention brands like TPave or Romacrete UAE color hardener, those are imported products. That's why I said it's important to tell clients exactly what materials you're using when giving them an estimate. We're all in the same business, and I pray the jobs God gives you will never pass me by, just as the ones He gives me won't pass you by. There's enough work for everyone. Can you point out which one you believe was done with imported color hardener? Let's discuss professionally so we can all learn from each other. Peace and love, brother.
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by christ007(m): 9:20pm On Jun 29 |
BIGGIE121:now you getting my point so relax work go come. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by christ007(m): 7:37am On Jun 30 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 8:26am On Jun 30 |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 1:26pm On Jun 30 |
Maintenance is essential to the life of building maintenance becomes necessary due to the following factors: 1. Ageing and Deterioration – Building components wear out over time because of continuous use and exposure to environmental conditions. 2. Weather Effects – Rain, sunlight, wind, humidity, and temperature changes can cause cracks, corrosion, fading, and other forms of damage. 3. Poor Workmanship – Defective construction practices may lead to early failures that require maintenance. 4. Inferior Materials – Use of low-quality materials can result in rapid deterioration and frequent repairs. 5. Mechanical and Electrical Failures – Breakdowns of equipment such as lifts, generators, plumbing, and electrical installations necessitate maintenance. 5. Poor design 6. Biological agent 7. Environmental pollution Etc Let’s take materials for example ; if you noticed that your workmen, builder, Engr, contractor is not capable of giving you best materials it’s better you follow up with the purchase, so that what happened in 1890 will not repeat itself again. Its your building |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 2:03pm On Jun 30 |
Look at this video that is trending on line about pop ceiling that fell off while partying It’s parts of factors that induces maintenance Here it’s either of these *Poor design *bad workmanship * selection of materials/ inferior materials More will still occur if we don’t take maintenance as priority
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 3:29pm On Jun 30 |
rotecch77:Na decking. Introduce iron (rod) hooks to the decking and anchor the POP to the hooks instead of gumming it to the decking. Simple. Knowledge and know-how is key. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jman77(m): 3:43pm On Jun 30 |
Baba! I'm seeing hooks from the decking believed to been used for the POP still fell off. diordaves: |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 4:17pm On Jun 30 |
jman77:Then it is poor workmanship. Maybe the hooks were introduced after decking and not done properly. Best practice is to introduce the hooks during decking where the hooks are tied to the decking rods by the iron bender. Just drilling the decking here and there and just shooking the hooks inside the holes no go work long term. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 4:57pm On Jun 30 |
diordaves:Yes based on the video watched, it’s poor workmanship. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by motta(m): 5:20pm On Jun 30 |
Adedward:how much |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dannie007(m): 5:45pm On Jun 30 |
Same way we have Fraudulent Vendors is same way we have! Fraudulent Clients from this Forum! Do you know what some artisans and professionals pass through in the hands of clients ? After completion of jobs most don’t want to pay the agreed amount! Same as we have good and bad artisans is same way we have good and bad clients! I have meet a client here who pain me 100% of the money required for the project inclusive workmanship without him meeting me in person and I delivered his Job! And I have meet many who will want to bring up issues not to pay you complete payment! It’s so sad that Laws most times don’t support artisans decatalyst: |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dreamchaser212(m): 6:15pm On Jun 30 |
rotecch77:Omo una dey muzz me oooo.... Just by watching video you have concluded it is poor workmanship ..you weren't there when the client/engr was negotiating with the pop artisan.. It might be the materials or not enough decking hooks to hold the pop firm. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 7:08pm On Jun 30 |
Dreamchaser212:Even if not enough decking hooks, that na still poor workmanship. The installer cannot escape responsibility. It has nothing to do with the client. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Geekop: 8:51pm On Jun 30 |
Dreamchaser212:Let's assume this is true, it's the artisan or contractor's reputation that is at stake. Client may not know everything but would want to work with his/her budget. You are to convince or at best leave the job. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by asamwababy: 9:25pm On Jun 30 |
Geekop:This is what Christ007 was trying to pass across earlier. Explain all to client, then let the client make their choice, don't offer a budget friendly price then the outcome will not be what the client desires. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 11:01pm On Jun 30*. Modified: 11:23pm On Jun 30 |
Dreamchaser212:“Poor workmanship in building construction can result from several factors, including - lack of skilled labor - poor supervision -poor training - lack of communication - Rushing to get work done fast -insufficient tools/ equipment -use of substandard materials -Lack or quality control -ignoring specifications and standards Etc The effects was what happened there. The client will definitely get furious with the result Hope you get it clear now More effects of Poor Workmanship * Structural defects and failures * Increased maintenance costs * Reduced building lifespan * Safety hazards to occupants * Delays and cost overruns Thanks |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Boreholedrillin: 3:28am On Jul 01 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by asamwababy: 4:53am On Jul 01 |
Adedward:When is time to collect money, no problem but to deliver the job, it's one story to another. Prospective client to should be careful don't fall victim of nice job posted, shine your eye wen they re working for you and don't entertain excuse upon excuse becos you paid without excuse, they should deliver very good job without excuse too. |
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