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Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Mattswaggz(op): 8:09pm On Jun 30
Ford says it has hired back some human engineers after AI failed to match their skills and experience.

In a bid to reap the benefits of the tech, which developers claim can cut costs and boost productivity, the US carmaker adopted it across some parts of its operations including for quality checks.

But, according to Bloomberg, external, its executives said the firm has rehired more than 300 "veteran" quality inspectors in recent years to make up for the pitfalls of automated systems.

"Artificial intelligence is a fantastic tool, but it's only as good as the information you use to train it," Charles Poon, vice president of vehicle hardware engineering, told reporters.

"Over prior years, we didn't pay as much attention as we should have to the experience of our most knowledgeable engineers that have been with us through many product cycles," he said.

The US automaker is among many to have seized on the buzz around AI, particularly amid Wall Street fervour about the tech's potential to increase margins.

"AI will leave a lot of white collar people behind," Ford boss Jim Farley said in an interview with author Walter Isaacson last June.

In an October earnings call, external, chief operating officer Kumar Galhotra said the firm was "deploying AI across the entire industrial system".

This included rolling out 900 AI-powered cameras in its plants "to detect quality issues at the source and help us mitigate supply disruptions", Galhotra told investors.

But Poon told reporters on Wednesday the firm's AI-driven checks had failed to live up to expectations.

"Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that would produce a high-quality product," he said.

Poon reportedly pointed to automated tools lacking the training and expertise of veteran technicians - many of whom he said had left the company before their knowledge could be used to improve its tech.

He said these human workers had since been reintroduced to train up its systems, as well as mentor younger workers.

"We recognised that for us to enhance some of our automation and machine learning and artificial intelligence tools we needed to ensure that they were trained by the most experienced individuals," he said, per Bloomberg.

Ford's admission of its AI failings came as it lauded its return to the top of an index used as an industry benchmark to measure vehicle quality.

It said it was the number one mainstream automaker in the US JD Power Initial Quality Study - a ranking it has not held since 2010.

In a press release, external marking the news, the company said "reaching best-in-class quality required a significant talent refresh".

This involved replacing senior leaders across engineering, supply chain and manufacturing, it said, as well as hiring the roughly 300 veteran engineers "who carry the hard-earned wisdom of decades of design".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrkd41n2v9o

Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Mattswaggz(op): 8:09pm On Jun 30
AI can hardly replace humans given that it is only as good as what humans put into it or train it to do......another angle is that AI can be trained to elite level which would mean that provided the right engineers and resources is being put into it's training it is expected to get better with time and could still serve as a threat to human expertise in certain aspects of human endeavors... nonetheless,this move looks like a Greek gift....these self centered employees are looking to have these rehired engineers train the AI with their own knowledge/expertise which could mean that if everything goes well, they will still be disposable in the nearest future....if I were them I will either refuse to train the AI or ask that my pay be made x10 or even include a huge payout clause on my contract that if I am fired to be replaced by AI I will be paid a huge amount of money as compensation.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by whitebeard(m): 8:36pm On Jun 30
Just the way a carpenter has his/her saw, hammer, screw driver, drills and other tools.

The painter with his painting brush and other tools,

A mechanic with his spanner and other tools.

AI is a tool. It shouldn't be used to replace humans in any way.

On a scale of 1-10, when humans venture onto something new they start at a 1 or 3, (lower numbers) but with AI, humans no longer start at such numbers we start at 7.

AI helps raise the standards and help humans do what they do better that's all.

Replacing humans with AI is just like a snake biting itself.

Imagine facebook replaces a significant numbers of items staffs with AI, now those staffs purchase certain goods and services from certain companies, organisations whatever. Now these certain companies pay facebook for advertisements, but now the number of people buying their goods and services have reduced cause people(replaces with AI) don't have money to do so they tell facebook, we won't be advertising anymore, facebook revenue also drops. Everything crashes and we are left asking what went wrong.

Replacing humans with AI is really dumb, but making sure humans use AI properly to improve their selves is the right way.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Tenses: 9:20pm On Jun 30
This AI might be what God will use to destroy the world, not fire like the Christians believe
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Fatbam003: 9:21pm On Jun 30
God pass you. Many are slaves of spirits
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Wizardslayer: 9:22pm On Jun 30
What man can do, no robot can ever do it better.

Human knowledge is irreplaceable. undecided
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by TheStoriesOfMan: 9:25pm On Jun 30
Mattswaggz:
AI can hardly replace humans given that it is only as good as what humans put into it or train it to do......another angle is that AI can be trained to elite level which would mean that provided the right engineers and resources is being put into it's training it is expected to get better with time and could still serve as a threat to human expertise in certain aspects of human endeavors... nonetheless,this move looks like a Greek gift....these self centered employees are looking to have these rehired engineers train the AI with their own knowledge/expertise which could mean that if everything goes well, they will still be disposable in the nearest future....if I were them I will either refuse to train the AI or ask that my pay be made x10 or even include a huge payout clause on my contract that if I am fired to be replaced by AI I will be paid a huge amount of money as compensation.
Engineers are not the problem. The problem is getting high quality data to the nearest accuracy. There are so many methods used to gather,clean and process data, but one thing is the "noise": not enough processes to actually do that.

The current noise-cancelling techniques for data cleaning is less than 80%. This is very dangerous to be used in real-time AI platforms, especially in medical or air travels.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by tobenuel(m): 9:26pm On Jun 30
Our senators behave like AI
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Wstation: 9:27pm On Jun 30
Mattswaggz:
AI can hardly replace humans given that it is only as good as what humans put into it or train it to do......another angle is that AI can be trained to elite level which would mean that provided the right engineers and resources is being put into it's training it is expected to get better with time and could still serve as a threat to human expertise in certain aspects of human endeavors... nonetheless,this move looks like a Greek gift....these self centered employees are looking to have these rehired engineers train the AI with their own knowledge/expertise which could mean that if everything goes well, they will still be disposable in the nearest future....if I were them I will either refuse to train the AI or ask that my pay be made x10 or even include a huge payout clause on my contract that if I am fired to be replaced by AI I will be paid a huge amount of money as compensation.
Absolutely. Artificial intelligence is a powerful tool, but it's only as good as the data, knowledge, and expertise used to build and train it.

If companies are hiring engineers back because AI couldn't meet expectations, those engineers should think beyond just returning as employees. They should negotiate better pay, build their retirement funds, and, where possible, work as consultants. The reality is that once the AI has been properly trained and the systems are mature, some of those roles may no longer be needed. They should make the most of the opportunity while their expertise is in high demand again.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 9:29pm On Jun 30
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To the those relying totally on AI trust me one of these days AI will mess you up

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Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by bluefilm: 9:29pm On Jun 30
Nonsense lipsrsealed

Don't spam the forum by advertising in the wrong places or posting the same content many times.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Amalekki: 9:29pm On Jun 30
Those fantasizing about AI hate it when it's emphasized that it's just a tool, but a very advanced one.

AI shouldn't replace you but someone using AI effectively will eventually replace you, if you are not that person!
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by DoctorAyukebot(m): 9:30pm On Jun 30
The future is definitely human
The day AI will acrobatically and sensually satisfy my girlfriend I will hand them the baton for the future
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 9:30pm On Jun 30
Una for employ AI to play this world cup naa....
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by TheStoriesOfMan: 9:31pm On Jun 30
whitebeard:
Just the way a carpenter has his/her saw, hammer, screw driver, drills and other tools.

The painter with his painting brush and other tools,

A mechanic with his spanner and other tools.

AI is a tool. It shouldn't be used to replace humans in any way.

On a scale of 1-10, when humans venture onto something new they start at a 1 or 3, (lower numbers) but with AI, humans no longer start at such numbers we start at 7.

AI helps raise the standards and help humans do what they do better that's all.

Replacing humans with AI is just like a snake biting itself.

Imagine facebook replaces a significant numbers of items staffs with AI, now those staffs purchase certain goods and services from certain companies, organisations whatever. Now these certain companies pay facebook for advertisements, but now the number of people buying their goods and services have reduced cause people(replaces with AI) don't have money to do so they tell facebook, we won't be advertising anymore, facebook revenue also drops. Everything crashes and we are left asking what went wrong.

Replacing humans with AI is really dumb, but making sure humans use AI properly to improve their selves is the right way.
There are processes where AI should replace humans and there are some processes that humans should handle.

Humans are unpredictable, which makes them adjust dynamically to the process, why AI are stoic but get the job delivered in "many" ways.

Let's use this car factory: AI can handle welding, body work, creating of electronic sensors etc. Humans? Their knowledge is good at inspection, QA/QC and certification process. But there is a problem: humans are not perfect. Some will overlook or undermine processes dud to bias, sentiments or ego.

The best thing is this: Human-computer interaction is the best.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Mirasteel: 9:31pm On Jun 30
AI can never replace humans, AI isn't everything.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by lagonovo: 9:32pm On Jun 30
Hmm abeg no trust women o!

DoctorAyukebot:
The future is definitely human
The day AI will acrobatically and sensually satisfy my girlfriend I will hand them the baton for the future
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by SixSeven: 9:33pm On Jun 30
Ai will take your job eeeish grin

Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by motymop: 9:33pm On Jun 30
Ai is over hyped, you still need human input

It is suppose to make your work efficient, help you not replace you
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by DeepSight(m): 9:34pm On Jun 30
Up humanity!!!!!
Xxxxxxxxxxx
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by TheStoriesOfMan: 9:34pm On Jun 30
Amalekki:
Those fantasizing about AI hate it when it's emphasized that it's just a tool, but a very advanced one.

AI shouldn't replace you but someone using AI effectively will eventually replace you, if you are not that person!
It's about using the right prompts. AI is a tool that can solve a problem in multiple ways.

Humans can do that, but slowly.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by AhmeduandOkopi: 9:35pm On Jun 30
At its current state, asides specialised expert systems and narrow AI applications, general AI still has some mileage to attain, to at least get a semblance of 'unaided intelligence' in it's applications.
Some much touted recent AI innovations and products basically functions at the brain power level of a lizard, more or less.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by 2RightHands1Coc(m): 9:36pm On Jun 30
This is just the beginning cheesy
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by TheStoriesOfMan: 9:36pm On Jun 30
Claude can code faster than a software engineer with a two year experience.

But I'm worried about humans using AI even to basic conversations.

Guy man go type "how do I woo a lady?"

Sheeeessshhhh
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by SixSeven: 9:37pm On Jun 30
motymop:
Ai is over hyped, you still need human input

It is suppose to make your work efficient, help you not replace you
I agree but the bar has been raised. Intelligence will now be expected as normal. If you don't have it, you can't give it. This is why younger people are having more trouble because intelligence is assumed as normal but instead of improving on existing intelligence, they are throwing their knowledge away and thinking the people who hired them are dumb and cannot use AI so they end up giving their bosses AI garbage. Own goal
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Mattswaggz(op): 9:37pm On Jun 30
Wstation:
Absolutely. Artificial intelligence is a powerful tool, but it's only as good as the data, knowledge, and expertise used to build and train it.

If companies are hiring engineers back because AI couldn't meet expectations, those engineers should think beyond just returning as employees. They should negotiate better pay, build their retirement funds, and, where possible, work as consultants. The reality is that once the AI has been properly trained and the systems are mature, some of those roles may no longer be needed. They should make the most of the opportunity while their expertise is in high demand again.
Exactly....these employees don't give a damn about them and want to use them to train and upgrade their AI system....which means that if they're done training the AI, they wouldn't be that useful again....let them negotiate a massive pay and be working on some side project as well in preparation for the D day.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by free2ryhme:
Mattswaggz:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrkd41n2v9o
The engineer should negotiate better employment contract and put clauses to protect them from situation like this
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by TheStoriesOfMan: 9:40pm On Jun 30
AhmeduandOkopi:
At its current state, asides specialised expert systems and narrow AI applications, general AI still has some mileage to attain, to at least get a semblance of 'unaided intelligence' in it's applications.
Some much touted recent AI innovations and products basically functions at the brain power level of a lizard, more or less.
We haven't reached up to 2% of specialized expert systems, especially in medicine, health and research.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by 99thEnemy(m): 9:43pm On Jun 30
At the current state of AI, replace we Engineers at your own peril.

Boeing and Airbus know better not to joke with this even in the next 10 years.

I no know about the rest oh!, but you see Avionics!!! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Even the almighty Claude Mythos fall our hand no be small, 17 hours before them restrict am grin
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by eepeepook: 9:45pm On Jun 30
Some, not all. If 300 were re-hired after 1,000 were laid off, A.I. won.
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by bentenny(m): 9:48pm On Jun 30
Guyman wanted to save cost by using AI 😆😆
Imagine if AI was used in the current world cup,all the players for don get red card😁
Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails To Match Quality Checks by Gotocourt: 9:49pm On Jun 30
wahala for who rely on AI.

AI depends on data uploaded by humans.
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