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DatNiggaDaz:


It is people like you work and get paid by a faaaake certttifficcate hollldderr that has made the country be what it is. You are lying and no one is attacking the Pastor

Since you data boiz are desperately searching for acknowledgement where your messiah has failed in every spheres of life you jump all lies and support it.

Pastor Adeboye knows himself that he is lying. You know that Pastor Adeboye is lying just as you lie always fir your messiah the faaaake certttifficcate hollldderr. The money you get from your faaake guru str*tegist to push the lies further has exposed you as those who lie about every failures of the roasted electricity fraud

No öne is surprised that you are jumping on the lies of Christian to defend the incompetence and cluelessness of the fraud you snatched and grabbed for
No one is attacking Adeboye. He is being called for defending what he castigated under our son GEJ. That is hypocrisy Mr data.

Thank you for proving the article correct with your own mouth.

You say “no one is attacking Pastor Adeboye,” then in the same breath call him a liar, accuse him of hypocrisy, and drag everybody into “fake certificate,” “data boys,” “snatch and grab,” “fraud,” and other recycled mindless street slogans.

If this is not attack, then what exactly do you call it — praise and worship?

This is the Obidient style I was talking about: when argument is required, abuse arrives first.

Let us separate the issues.

Pastor Adeboye did not say Nigeria is secure. He admitted insecurity has worsened. He spoke about terrorism, kidnapping, and the spread of insecurity. He also said security chiefs should be given clear orders and that sponsors of terrorism should be dealt with. The part you people hate is that he said the President cannot personally wear khaki and go to the battlefield.

You can disagree with that. You can say Tinubu must take full responsibility because he is Commander-in-Chief. That is a valid argument.

But instead of making that argument cleanly, you people went into ethnic labelling, personal abuse and religious disrespect.

On your claim that Adeboye castigated Jonathan but now defends Tinubu, I challenge you: bring the exact quote, date and context.

Because the popular evidence people keep circulating is false. That viral photo claiming Adeboye protested against Jonathan has been fact-checked repeatedly. It was not from Jonathan’s era; it was from a 2020 peace walk under Buhari.

In fact, what the public record shows is almost the opposite. Jonathan visited the RCCG camp in 2015 and knelt for prayers. Adeboye prayed for peaceful elections. Around the same period, Jonathan also met Obasanjo in Abeokuta in the presence of Adeboye and Bishop Oyedepo, a meeting widely reported as part of efforts to calm political tensions before the election.

So where exactly is this story that Adeboye “castigated” Jonathan?

This is the usual pattern: invent history, circulate it emotionally, then use it to justify abuse today.

You can disagree with Adeboye’s latest position. That is your right. You can say Tinubu must take more responsibility for insecurity. That is a valid argument. But do not rewrite history to excuse your movement’s standard behaviour of insulting anyone who refuses to echo your anger.

If Adeboye supported or prayed for Jonathan, he was a man of God. If he says something that does not condemn Tinubu in your preferred language, he suddenly becomes a tribal hypocrite.

That is not principle.

That is Obidient intolerance looking for a Bible verse.

Even if he criticised Jonathan before, that does not automatically mean every present statement must be anti-Tinubu to prove consistency. Circumstances, wording and context matter.

And please, enough of this “paid” nonsense. If my argument is false, rebut it. If I lied about Adeboye’s statement, show the lie. If Tinubu’s certificate is your issue, open that thread. Do not run from the topic and hide inside your usual insult basket.

The issue here is simple: can you disagree with a respected religious leader without abusing him?

So far, your answer is no.

Ekpeitut:
The issue is not that Pastor Adeboye expressed an opinion. The issue is that many Nigerians remember a time when he was far more vocal about the failures of previous governments. That is why his recent comments have attracted scrutiny.
You cannot build a reputation for speaking truth to power and then appear to lower the standard when your preferred leader is in office. Consistency is the foundation of moral authority.

When previous administrations struggled with insecurity, corruption, fuel scarcity, or economic hardship, Pastor Adeboye did not hesitate to call for urgent action and national repentance. Today, insecurity has become even more widespread, kidnappings have reached communities once considered safe, millions are battling unprecedented economic hardship, yet his public criticism appears noticeably restrained. Nigerians have every right to ask why.

Saying that the President only needs to give orders ignores the very essence of leadership. A Commander in Chief is not judged by the orders he gives but by the outcomes those orders produce. If insecurity continues to worsen, then leadership must be held accountable. That principle applied under previous governments and it must apply now.

It is ironic that some people who once applauded Adeboye for challenging those in power are now asking Nigerians not to question him. Respect for a pastor does not require silence in the face of apparent double standards. Public figures who comment on national issues should expect their past statements to be measured against their present ones.

Reducing every criticism to "Obidients are attacking him" is also misleading. Many of those questioning Pastor Adeboye are not doing so because of Peter Obi. They are doing so because they expect consistency from someone who has long been regarded as a moral voice in Nigeria.
This is not about tribe. It is not about religion. It is about credibility. If the standards used to judge former presidents are abandoned when the current president is involved, then people are justified in pointing out the inconsistency.

Nobody is above criticism, whether politician or pastor. The same courage required to speak against yesterday's government should exist today. Otherwise, people will inevitably conclude that the message changes depending on who occupies Aso Rock.
That is the real issue. Not ethnicity. Not political affiliation. Consistency.

Nobody is saying Pastor Adeboye is above criticism. He is not. If anyone disagrees with his statement on Tinubu and insecurity, they are free to disagree.

But let us not replace facts with vague memory.

You said Adeboye was “far more vocal” against previous governments. Fine. Bring the exact quote, date and context. The most popular claim being circulated — that Adeboye protested against Goodluck Jonathan — has been fact-checked repeatedly and found false. The viral protest photo was from a 2020 prayer walk under Buhari, not Jonathan.

In fact, public records show that Jonathan visited the RCCG camp in 2015, knelt for prayers, and Adeboye prayed for peaceful elections. Reports also showed Jonathan meeting Obasanjo in Abeokuta in the presence of Adeboye and Bishop Oyedepo. So where exactly is this story that Adeboye treated Jonathan with fire and Tinubu with perfume?

Even under Buhari, Adeboye’s 2020 walk was a prayer walk against killings and insecurity, not a partisan campaign rally. And even now under Tinubu, Adeboye did not say Nigeria is safe. He said insecurity has worsened, urged security chiefs to move fast, and called for terrorists and their sponsors to be dealt with. His controversial point was that the President is not expected to personally wear khaki and go to the battlefield.

You can disagree with that. I may even agree that a Commander-in-Chief must ultimately be judged by results, not instructions. But that is different from calling him a tribal hypocrite or pretending he never criticised insecurity under this government.

The real problem is that some people want Adeboye to use their exact political language. If he prays, they say he is silent. If he advises, they say he is soft. If he does not insult Tinubu, they say he is compromised.

Criticism is fair. Abuse is not.

So let us discuss consistency with evidence, not with rumours, recycled photos and emotional suspicion.

Image123:
Adeboye has consistently asked the government to do better. You're only pained because he's not openly supporting the fraud runaway candidate.

That's a weak deflection.

Whether someone supports Peter Obi or not has nothing to do with the substance of the argument. The issue is whether Pastor Adeboye has applied the same level of public pressure to this administration as he did to previous ones.

If he has consistently asked every government to do better with the same urgency and intensity, then fine. But if his tone becomes noticeably softer when the government is led by someone he is perceived to be close to, people are entitled to question that.

Dragging Peter Obi into every criticism of Tinubu or Adeboye is simply a way of avoiding the real conversation.

As for calling Obi a "fraud runaway candidate," that's just political name-calling. It doesn't answer the criticism. If your defence of Adeboye depends on attacking another politician instead of addressing the point being raised, then you've already conceded the argument.

oyichi:
That man's reputation has gone south, this administration revealed who he really is, an insincere, double standard in judgement, fake character who is just out there for his extreme flamboyant life style, to call this one a pastor is an insult to Christianity

Thank you for confirming the point: insult is not an accident in your camp; it is becoming a political inheritance.

You say no one is attacking Pastor Adeboye, then call him fake, insincere, double-standard, flamboyant, and “an insult to Christianity.” If that is not attack, then maybe abuse has now been renamed “constructive criticism” in Obidient dictionary.

Now let us be honest. In 2023, several pastors and Christian voices openly leaned toward Peter Obi or gave him visible platforms. Pastor Paul Enenche shared a photo with Peter Obi and Bishop David Oyedepo and described Obi as “the way to go.” Punch and Channels reported it as an endorsement.

Peter Obi also appeared at Dunamis in 2022, where he received massive attention from worshippers. The controversial Obi-Oyedepo “Yes Daddy” audio also showed how seriously Obi’s camp valued clerical influence; TheCable reported Kenneth Okonkwo accepted the audio as authentic, while Labour defended it against claims of religious bigotry. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome also made widely reported 2023 election comments involving the major candidates and what he said an angel told him.

So let us stop pretending pastors in politics became a problem only because Adeboye said something that did not serve your anger.

When clerics appeared favourable to Obi, they were “voices of conscience.” When Adeboye speaks in a way you dislike, he becomes fake, tribal and an insult to Christianity.

That is not principle. That is selective outrage.

You can disagree with Adeboye. You can question consistency. You can demand stronger language on insecurity. But once your response becomes personal abuse, you prove the very intolerance being discussed.

The issue is simple: are pastors allowed to speak politically only when they support your candidate?

BOOZELEE:
I am not obidient

I just hate church leaders who don't say the truth because of there selfish interest and Adeboye is one of them.

My brother, it depends on what you call “the truth.”

In 2023, when some church leaders openly leaned toward Peter Obi, was that “truth” or politics?

When Pastor Paul Enenche posted Peter Obi with Bishop Oyedepo and declared him “the way to go,” was that truth or political endorsement?

When Obi appeared at Dunamis and the church atmosphere turned into political excitement, was that truth or pulpit politics?

When the controversial “Yes Daddy” audio involving Obi and Bishop Oyedepo surfaced, and even Kenneth Okonkwo admitted the audio was authentic, was that truth or religious mobilisation?

When Pastor Chris Oyakhilome released his angelic-style election message that many interpreted politically, was that truth or spiritualised campaigning?

You see the problem?

If a pastor speaks in a way that favours Obi, he is a courageous voice of conscience. If another pastor speaks in a way that does not condemn Tinubu with the anger you prefer, he is selfish, fake, compromised and not telling the truth.

That is not principle. That is selective outrage.

The real issue is not whether church leaders should be questioned. They should be. The issue is whether your camp applies the same standard to all of them.

If pastors must stay away from partisan politics, then say so consistently. If pastors may speak on national issues, then accept that they will not always speak your preferred political language.

But do not call it “truth” when it favours Obi and “selfish interest” when it does not.

That is not Christianity. That is political convenience wearing choir robe.

CharlesCNG:
Thank you for proving the article correct with your own mouth.

You say “no one is attacking Pastor Adeboye,” then in the same breath call him a liar, accuse him of hypocrisy, and drag everybody into “fake certificate,” “data boys,” “snatch and grab,” “fraud,” and other recycled mindless street slogans.

If this is not attack, then what exactly do you call it — praise and worship?

This is the Obidient style I was talking about: when argument is required, abuse arrives first.

Let us separate the issues.

Pastor Adeboye did not say Nigeria is secure. He admitted insecurity has worsened. He spoke about terrorism, kidnapping, and the spread of insecurity. He also said security chiefs should be given clear orders and that sponsors of terrorism should be dealt with. The part you people hate is that he said the President cannot personally wear khaki and go to the battlefield.

You can disagree with that. You can say Tinubu must take full responsibility because he is Commander-in-Chief. That is a valid argument.

But instead of making that argument cleanly, you people went into ethnic labelling, personal abuse and religious disrespect.

On your claim that Adeboye castigated Jonathan but now defends Tinubu, I challenge you: bring the exact quote, date and context.

Because the popular evidence people keep circulating is false. That viral photo claiming Adeboye protested against Jonathan has been fact-checked repeatedly. It was not from Jonathan’s era; it was from a 2020 peace walk under Buhari.

In fact, what the public record shows is almost the opposite. Jonathan visited the RCCG camp in 2015 and knelt for prayers. Adeboye prayed for peaceful elections. Around the same period, Jonathan also met Obasanjo in Abeokuta in the presence of Adeboye and Bishop Oyedepo, a meeting widely reported as part of efforts to calm political tensions before the election.

So where exactly is this story that Adeboye “castigated” Jonathan?

This is the usual pattern: invent history, circulate it emotionally, then use it to justify abuse today.

You can disagree with Adeboye’s latest position. That is your right. You can say Tinubu must take more responsibility for insecurity. That is a valid argument. But do not rewrite history to excuse your movement’s standard behaviour of insulting anyone who refuses to echo your anger.

If Adeboye supported or prayed for Jonathan, he was a man of God. If he says something that does not condemn Tinubu in your preferred language, he suddenly becomes a tribal hypocrite.

That is not principle.

That is Obidient intolerance looking for a Bible verse.

Even if he criticised Jonathan before, that does not automatically mean every present statement must be anti-Tinubu to prove consistency. Circumstances, wording and context matter.

And please, enough of this “paid” nonsense. If my argument is false, rebut it. If I lied about Adeboye’s statement, show the lie. If Tinubu’s certificate is your issue, open that thread. Do not run from the topic and hide inside your usual insult basket.

The issue here is simple: can you disagree with a respected religious leader without abusing him?

So far, your answer is no.

Data boi, you are not gaslighting any one other than your own self. You are desperately looking for support for the failure you are defending and there is none that will come your way.

Adeboye who is a Christian Pastor has now become someone to help whitewash the incompetence and cluelessness of the faaake muslim muslim ticket kriminal.

Adeboye is lying and sane Nigerians know he is lying and he himself knows that he is lying. Nigerians are the culprits of insecurity in the hands mandate snatchers and grabbers and Adeboye telling lies because of tribalism and using the Jezebel in the house to whitewash a failed kriminal is DOA.

When you lie, that this Chicago faaake certttifficcate holder is not to be blamed, it is what it is, a lie, and who ever said it is a liar. There is no insult there, that it what it is it.

Your aim of using a Pastor to defend the incompetence of the faaake ocean tamer and divide the Christians is also DOA.

There is no epistle you write that you aim to demonize those against the failed kriminal that will succeed

You are a testimony to that fact yourself that you have to create many epistles of lies, propaganda and deciet against your nightmare which are failing woefully prompting you to create more meaningless desperate threads

No peace for wick"d creatures

Ekpeitut:
That's a weak deflection.

Whether someone supports Peter Obi or not has nothing to do with the substance of the argument. The issue is whether Pastor Adeboye has applied the same level of public pressure to this administration as he did to previous ones.

If he has consistently asked every government to do better with the same urgency and intensity, then fine. But if his tone becomes noticeably softer when the government is led by someone he is perceived to be close to, people are entitled to question that.

Dragging Peter Obi into every criticism of Tinubu or Adeboye is simply a way of avoiding the real conversation.

As for calling Obi a "fraud runaway candidate," that's just political name-calling. It doesn't answer the criticism. If your defence of Adeboye depends on attacking another politician instead of addressing the point being raised, then you've already conceded the argument.

This sounds neat, but it still dodges the evidence.

You keep saying Adeboye applied “more pressure” to previous governments, especially Jonathan. Fine — bring the exact quote, date and context.
Because the most popular evidence people are using, the so-called Adeboye protest against Jonathan, has been fact-checked and found false. The photo was from a 2020 prayer walk under Buhari, not Jonathan.

In fact, the public record shows Adeboye did not treat Jonathan the way you people are claiming. Jonathan visited RCCG camp in 2015, knelt for prayers, and Adeboye prayed for peaceful elections and strength for him.

On Tinubu, Adeboye did not say Nigeria is secure. He admitted insecurity has worsened, urged the President to give security chiefs a strict deadline, and called for terrorists and their sponsors to be dealt with. The part people are angry about is his view that the President cannot personally go to the battlefield.


So the issue is not “consistency” until you prove the inconsistency with evidence.

Right now, what I see is this: when Adeboye prays for Jonathan, context matters. When he speaks under Buhari, people mislabel the photo. When he advises Tinubu, he suddenly becomes compromised.

That is not moral scrutiny. That is selective outrage looking for a witness.

CharlesCNG:
Nobody is saying Pastor Adeboye is above criticism. He is not. If anyone disagrees with his statement on Tinubu and insecurity, they are free to disagree.

But let us not replace facts with vague memory.

You said Adeboye was “far more vocal” against previous governments. Fine. Bring the exact quote, date and context. The most popular claim being circulated — that Adeboye protested against Goodluck Jonathan — has been fact-checked repeatedly and found false. The viral protest photo was from a 2020 prayer walk under Buhari, not Jonathan.

In fact, public records show that Jonathan visited the RCCG camp in 2015, knelt for prayers, and Adeboye prayed for peaceful elections. Reports also showed Jonathan meeting Obasanjo in Abeokuta in the presence of Adeboye and Bishop Oyedepo. So where exactly is this story that Adeboye treated Jonathan with fire and Tinubu with perfume?

Even under Buhari, Adeboye’s 2020 walk was a prayer walk against killings and insecurity, not a partisan campaign rally. And even now under Tinubu, Adeboye did not say Nigeria is safe. He said insecurity has worsened, urged security chiefs to move fast, and called for terrorists and their sponsors to be dealt with. His controversial point was that the President is not expected to personally wear khaki and go to the battlefield.

You can disagree with that. I may even agree that a Commander-in-Chief must ultimately be judged by results, not instructions. But that is different from calling him a tribal hypocrite or pretending he never criticised insecurity under this government.

The real problem is that some people want Adeboye to use their exact political language. If he prays, they say he is silent. If he advises, they say he is soft. If he does not insult Tinubu, they say he is compromised.

Criticism is fair. Abuse is not.

So let us discuss consistency with evidence, not with rumours, recycled photos and emotional suspicion.

This is selective outrage disguised as a defence of decency.

Yes, some Obidients abused Pastor Adeboye, and they were wrong. But let's not pretend abuse is unique to Obidients. Tinubu supporters and data boys have viciously attacked clerics, journalists, critics,ex president Jonathan/his dear wife and even Peter Obi.

Also, criticising Adeboye's comments is not the same as abusing him. You're deliberately conflating the two to shield his statement from scrutiny.

Ekpeitut:
That's a weak deflection.

Whether someone supports Peter Obi or not has nothing to do with the substance of the argument. The issue is whether Pastor Adeboye has applied the same level of public pressure to this administration as he did to previous ones.

If he has consistently asked every government to do better with the same urgency and intensity, then fine. But if his tone becomes noticeably softer when the government is led by someone he is perceived to be close to, people are entitled to question that.

Dragging Peter Obi into every criticism of Tinubu or Adeboye is simply a way of avoiding the real conversation.

As for calling Obi a "fraud runaway candidate," that's just political name-calling. It doesn't answer the criticism. If your defence of Adeboye depends on attacking another politician instead of addressing the point being raised, then you've already conceded the argument.

What level of public pressure, urgency or intensity do you refer to? What pressure did he put GEJ or fPMB to? He simply makes comments once in a while from his pulpit or programme. Meanwhile he openly endorsed and prayed for the same GEJ in ways he's never done for Tinubu. Recently, he gave Tinubu 90days or something. 2 days ago, he said things are worse and they've brought insecurity to him. What greater things did he do to GEJ. Did he shut down his government or campaign against him. Let me understand better.

floss:
But must yorubas, igbos and hausas live together as a country.... These too much hate between yorubas and igbos, is it not better for igbos to go and have their own country so that yorubas and hausas can enjoy Nigeria in peace.

You criticize tulumbu, they tag you obidients
You criticize too much insecurity and deaths due to the incapacitation of current government, they say
"can't you see the coastal road?

You look at the coastal road and question the way and manner the contract was awarded and who it was awarded, and how much was disbursed, they call you PAINED

The thing about this government and their supporters is that, you're not supposed to question anything, if you ask questions about how the resources is used, they tag you igbo and obidients


What is yorubas constant obsession with igbos that they tag every one not supporting evil as igbos and obidients ?

I expected that when a government is criticized, the government and their supporters come forward with explanations and plans on how to make amends and build the country through transparency so that everyone will stop asking questions.

But rather, their response to criticism is launching tribal attacks, verbal and online wars on people that are asking questions... If you feel attacked by a mere question seeking explanation then you're deliberate in your incompetency in governance

You took the words from my mouth...you are apt and on point,God bless you!

DatNiggaDaz:


Data boi, you are not gaslighting any one other than your own self. You are desperately looking for support for the failure you are defending and there is none that will come your way.

Adeboye who is a Christian Pastor has now become someone to help whitewash the incompetence and cluelessness of the faaake muslim muslim ticket kriminal.

Adeboye is lying and sane Nigerians know he is lying and he himself knows that he is lying. Nigerians are the culprits of insecurity in the hands mandate snatchers and grabbers and Adeboye telling lies because of tribalism and using the Jezebel in the house to whitewash a failed kriminal is DOA.

When you lie, that this Chicago faaake certttifficcate holder is not to be blamed, it is what it is, a lie, and who ever said it is a liar. There is no insult there, that it what it is it.

Your aim of using a Pastor to defend the incompetence of the faaake ocean tamer and divide the Christians is also DOA.

There is no epistle you write that you aim to demonize those against the failed kriminal that will succeed

You are a testimony to that fact yourself that you have to create many epistles of lies, propaganda and deciet against your nightmare which are failing woefully prompting you to create more meaningless desperate threads

No peace for wick"d creatures

Slogan boi, thank you for confirming the entire point of the thread.

You say nobody is attacking Adeboye, then proceed to call him a liar, tribalist, whitewasher, and drag his wife with “Jezebel” language. If this is your definition of non-attack, then your dictionary must have been printed by the Ministry of Obidient Outrage.

This is exactly the behaviour being discussed: once someone does not speak in your preferred anti-Tinubu tone, you people don’t argue — you combust.

Adeboye did not say Nigeria is secure. He did not say Tinubu has solved insecurity. He acknowledged the spread of insecurity, called for urgent action, and said security chiefs should be held to task. His only offence is that he did not reduce the matter to your usual slogan of “criminal, fake certificate, snatch and grab.”

That is why your response is full of noise but empty of substance.

You call me “data boi” because I bring context. Fair enough. I would rather be a data boy than an abuse boy whose entire argument is certificate chants, tribal accusations and emotional gymnastics.

If Adeboye lied, quote the exact lie and rebut it. If his reasoning is wrong, show why. If you believe the President must take fuller responsibility as Commander-in-Chief, make that argument cleanly. Many reasonable people can even agree with that.

But all this “fake Muslim-Muslim ticket criminal,” “Jezebel,” “wicked creatures,” and “no peace” only proves that[b] insult is not an occasional Obidient mistake; it is becoming your political operating system.[/b]

You people keep saying you want a new Nigeria, but you cannot even produce a new argument.

Same abuse. Same slogans. Same conspiracy. Same anger.

So please, Slogan Boi, leave the fumes and face the issue: did Adeboye deny insecurity, or did he call for action while making a point about the limits of personal battlefield command?

Answer that, not your imaginary certificate choir.

Ekpeitut:
This is selective outrage disguised as a defence of decency.

Yes, some Obidients abused Pastor Adeboye, and they were wrong. But let's not pretend abuse is unique to Obidients. Tinubu supporters and data boys have viciously attacked clerics, journalists, critics,ex president Jonathan/his dear wife and even Peter Obi.

Also, criticising Adeboye's comments is not the same as abusing him. You're deliberately conflating the two to shield his statement from scrutiny.

nobody said abuse is exclusive to Obidients. Political abuse exists across camps. Tinubu supporters do it. PDP supporters do it. Obi supporters do it. That is not the argument.

The argument is more specific: in this particular Adeboye episode, the loudest and most vicious attacks I have seen are coming from people using Obidient language, Obidient talking points and Obidient grievance templates.

I also never said all Obidients are abusive. That would be unfair.

But many of the people who turn every disagreement into abuse, call everyone paid, tribalist, fake, compromised or wicked simply because they refuse to echo Obi-aligned anger, are usually Obidients. That pattern is too consistent to ignore.

Image123:
And the truth is that we should vote for Obi. SMH. He'll still lose terribly again. Sane people will not vote in terrorists and their enablers.
Anyone that doesn't support your fraud is evil and demonic, what kind of strategy is that one? You think Nigeria is that backward to fall for such useless nsogbu tactics?

Anybody against Adeboye is obidient

You have a brain in ur head.Try and use it.

CharlesCNG:
My brother, it depends on what you call “the truth.”

In 2023, when some church leaders openly leaned toward Peter Obi, was that “truth” or politics?

When Pastor Paul Enenche posted Peter Obi with Bishop Oyedepo and declared him “the way to go,” was that truth or political endorsement?

When Obi appeared at Dunamis and the church atmosphere turned into political excitement, was that truth or pulpit politics?

When the controversial “Yes Daddy” audio involving Obi and Bishop Oyedepo surfaced, and even Kenneth Okonkwo admitted the audio was authentic, was that truth or religious mobilisation?

When Pastor Chris Oyakhilome released his angelic-style election message that many interpreted politically, was that truth or spiritualised campaigning?

You see the problem?

If a pastor speaks in a way that favours Obi, he is a courageous voice of conscience. If another pastor speaks in a way that does not condemn Tinubu with the anger you prefer, he is selfish, fake, compromised and not telling the truth.

That is not principle. That is selective outrage.

The real issue is not whether church leaders should be questioned. They should be. The issue is whether your camp applies the same standard to all of them.

If pastors must stay away from partisan politics, then say so consistently. If pastors may speak on national issues, then accept that they will not always speak your preferred political language.

But do not call it “truth” when it favours Obi and “selfish interest” when it does not.

That is not Christianity. That is political convenience wearing choir robe.

Guy use ur brain.

Anyone against Adeboye is obidient in ur little understanding baa?

BOOZELEE:
Anybody against Adeboye is obidient

You have a brain in ur head.Try and use it.

Your master is a chief liar, no news.

Poster copied this from APC watsapp group.. Because of Obi you are employed.. But na nonsense work u de do

DatNiggaDaz:


Data boi, there is an urge to lie and gaslight yourself all the time. Is this not thesame Adeboye that gathered against our son GEJ protesting ? What people are calling out is his hypocrisy and that of you data boiz.

What the Adeboye said under the faaake certttifficcate holder is not what he said during GEJ's time. That is hypocrisy from a liar and you are not different working for a faaake guru str*tegist

And so what? Did adeboye stop you from protesting against tinubu if you want to,same GEJ you are killing yourself over doesn't even give a hoot about your existence and will always sit on same table with this same adeboye,wsnt the current SP akpabio part of that same govt but where is he now........you people enjoy dwelling on irelevances,even GEJ himself has distanced himself from the same PDP that made him president but here you are still sulking over nonsense......its apparent your angst against tinubu is just due to the fact he bettered whoever it is you have ever thrown up against him.....go get a life dude!!

Lithiumite:
And so what? Did adeboye stop you from protesting against tinubu if you want to,same GEJ you are killing yourself over doesn't even give a hoot about your existence and will always sit on same table with this same adeboye,wsnt the current SP akpabio part of that same govt but where is he now........you people enjoy dwelling on irelevances,even GEJ himself has distanced himself from the same PDP that made him president but here you are still sulking over nonsense......its apparent your angst against tinubu is just due to the fact he bettered whoever it is you have ever thrown up against him.....go get a life dude!!

CharlesCNG

Changing monikers to defend and support loes will not help you and will not change anything. Your messiah will be disgraced out of that snatched Office after decieving Muslims from the North and abandoned them to their fate.

Your faaaake certttifficcate holder faaaake guru str*tegist has been demystified as the woefull failure he is in all sectors.

No amount of gaslighting, lies, propaganda, religious big*try and tribalism you employ will save the roasted fraudulent electricity fraud

BOOZELEE:
Guy use ur brain.

Anyone against Adeboye is obidient in ur little understanding baa?

Please lend your own brain to the conversation first before asking others to use theirs.

I never said everyone criticising Adeboye is Obidient. That is your own invention.

What I said is that many of the loudest, most abusive attacks on him are coming with the familiar Obidient fingerprint: “paid,” “tribal,” “fake,” “data boy,” “criminal,” “certificate,” “snatch and grab,” and zero engagement with the actual statement.

If it quacks like an Obidient, insults like an Obidient, dodges facts like an Obidient, and shouts “data boy” like an Obidient, forgive me for recognising the duck.

There is a difference between criticism and abuse. A person can disagree with Adeboye without being Obidient. But when the response sounds exactly like the usual Obidient insult factory, people are allowed to notice the manufacturer.

So no, the issue is not “anyone against Adeboye is Obidient.”

The issue is: why do so many Obidient-style responses collapse into abuse whenever someone refuses to condemn Tinubu in their preferred language?

Use brain, yes. But first, stop using straw man as walking stick.

Tenses:
Truly, brain is not a requirement to be a tinubu supporter.


Just look at this child's reasoning. So sickening and disgusting.

Adult!! That wants to kill himself over what a fellow adult like him said......why not say yours and gather your own following to make your own mark in your currently irrelevant life.

Why is Adeboye NOT telling TINUBU the truth?

But was insulting...

Jonathan..

Una go cry BLOOD..

what do you expect from a bitter and hateful people who thinks everyone owe them their vote of voting obi…..let pastor Adeboye announce his support for obi tomorrow and watch them swallow their vomit they think they can bully and insult their way to presidency we wait to see how that will pan out

The people opposing Adeboye today supported GEJ back then. They are always looking for who will oppose the opposite figure them free of charge.

Ekpeitut:
The issue is not that Pastor Adeboye expressed an opinion. The issue is that many Nigerians remember a time when he was far more vocal about the failures of previous governments. That is why his recent comments have attracted scrutiny.
You cannot build a reputation for speaking truth to power and then appear to lower the standard when your preferred leader is in office. Consistency is the foundation of moral authority.

When previous administrations struggled with insecurity, corruption, fuel scarcity, or economic hardship, Pastor Adeboye did not hesitate to call for urgent action and national repentance. Today, insecurity has become even more widespread, kidnappings have reached communities once considered safe, millions are battling unprecedented economic hardship, yet his public criticism appears noticeably restrained. Nigerians have every right to ask why.

Saying that the President only needs to give orders ignores the very essence of leadership. A Commander in Chief is not judged by the orders he gives but by the outcomes those orders produce. If insecurity continues to worsen, then leadership must be held accountable. That principle applied under previous governments and it must apply now.

It is ironic that some people who once applauded Adeboye for challenging those in power are now asking Nigerians not to question him. Respect for a pastor does not require silence in the face of apparent double standards. Public figures who comment on national issues should expect their past statements to be measured against their present ones.

Reducing every criticism to "Obidients are attacking him" is also misleading. Many of those questioning Pastor Adeboye are not doing so because of Peter Obi. They are doing so because they expect consistency from someone who has long been regarded as a moral voice in Nigeria.
This is not about tribe. It is not about religion. It is about credibility. If the standards used to judge former presidents are abandoned when the current president is involved, then people are justified in pointing out the inconsistency.

Nobody is above criticism, whether politician or pastor. The same courage required to speak against yesterday's government should exist today. Otherwise, people will inevitably conclude that the message changes depending on who occupies Aso Rock.
That is the real issue. Not ethnicity. Not political affiliation. Consistency.

Can you tell us how many times he has spoken to power? Maybe once each during Buhari and Jonathan and he was younger then.

The problems of obedients is that, Nigeria must burn down because their preferred candidate came 3rd in an election, and most all them, not thinking with their brains but their emotions.

Anyone who is not blaming and attacking govt of the day, they must come for him, but if Satan is being critical of govt of the day, it automatically becomes their friend and lord.

Ekpeitut:
The issue is not that Pastor Adeboye expressed an opinion. The issue is that many Nigerians remember a time when he was far more vocal about the failures of previous governments. That is why his recent comments have attracted scrutiny.
You cannot build a reputation for speaking truth to power and then appear to lower the standard when your preferred leader is in office. Consistency is the foundation of moral authority.

When previous administrations struggled with insecurity, corruption, fuel scarcity, or economic hardship, Pastor Adeboye did not hesitate to call for urgent action and national repentance. Today, insecurity has become even more widespread, kidnappings have reached communities once considered safe, millions are battling unprecedented economic hardship, yet his public criticism appears noticeably restrained. Nigerians have every right to ask why.

Saying that the President only needs to give orders ignores the very essence of leadership. A Commander in Chief is not judged by the orders he gives but by the outcomes those orders produce. If insecurity continues to worsen, then leadership must be held accountable. That principle applied under previous governments and it must apply now.

It is ironic that some people who once applauded Adeboye for challenging those in power are now asking Nigerians not to question him. Respect for a pastor does not require silence in the face of apparent double standards. Public figures who comment on national issues should expect their past statements to be measured against their present ones.

Reducing every criticism to "Obidients are attacking him" is also misleading. Many of those questioning Pastor Adeboye are not doing so because of Peter Obi. They are doing so because they expect consistency from someone who has long been regarded as a moral voice in Nigeria.
This is not about tribe. It is not about religion. It is about credibility. If the standards used to judge former presidents are abandoned when the current president is involved, then people are justified in pointing out the inconsistency.

Nobody is above criticism, whether politician or pastor. The same courage required to speak against yesterday's government should exist today. Otherwise, people will inevitably conclude that the message changes depending on who occupies Aso Rock.
That is the real issue. Not ethnicity. Not political affiliation. Consistency.

In one sentence tell me the government that adeboye criticized

Who told you only obidients are the ones attacking the fake pastor. Sane Nigerians are the ones attacking the fraud, not Yoruba Muslims, bigots and brainwashed Christians.