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Judaism - Written: 1000 BCE
Expects the coming of the Messiah (Mashiach), a human leader from the line of David.
This figure is expected to restore Israel, bring peace, and rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem.
Has not been fulfilled in mainstream Jewish belief.

Christianity - Written: 50 CE
Are expecting the Second Coming of Christ, when Jesus returns to judge the world and complete salvation history.

Islam - Written: 610 CE
ʿĪsā (Jesus) is expected to return near the end times.
The Mahdi, a guided leader, is expected to appear and restore justice (especially emphasized in Shia Islam, also present in Sunni traditions).

Zoroastrianism - Written: 1200 BCE
Expects the Saoshyant, a future saviour who will bring about the final renovation of the world, defeat evil, and resurrect the dead.

Hinduism 1500 BCE
In some traditions, the god Vishnu is expected to appear as the final avatar:
Kalki, who will arrive at the end of the current age (Kali Yuga) to restore dharma (cosmic order).

Buddhism 1200 BCE
Expects Maitreya, the future Buddha, who will appear when the teachings of the current Buddha have been forgotten and will rediscover and teach the Dharma anew.

MindHacker9009:
Buddhism
Expects Maitreya, the future Buddha, who will appear when the teachings of the current Buddha have been forgotten and will rediscover and teach the Dharma anew.

This depends on understanding, as the concept of messianism is contrary to the same buddhism that suggests that you yourself possess the tools for your own salvation.

I'd even go further and suggest that messianism is a misunderstanding in Christianity, since one is advised to carry ones own cross. But as Christ is written to have taught, "the blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised", and the understanding of the message is only understood by those who seek it with all their hearts and souls and minds and beings, (according to the baur, which differs to mosts).

budaatum:
This depends on understanding, as the concept of messianism is contrary to the same buddhism that suggests that you yourself possess the tools for your own salvation.

I'd even go further and suggest that messianism is a misunderstanding in Christianity, since one is advised to carry ones own cross. But as Christ is written to have taught, "the blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised", and the understanding of the message is only understood by those who seek it with all their hearts and souls and minds and beings, (according to the baur, which differs to mosts).

Check when they were written:
Zoroastrianism — c. 1200 BCE
Hinduism — c. 1500 BCE
Judaism — c. 1000 BCE
Buddhism — c. 300 BCE
Christianity — c. 50 CE
Islam — c. 610 CE

MindHacker9009:
Check which are the oldest religions:
Hinduism — c. 1500 BCE
Zoroastrianism — c. 1200 BCE
Judaism — c. 1000 BCE
Buddhism — c. 500 BCE
Christianity — c. 30 CE
Islam — c. 610 CE

Why should I Check which are the oldest religions?

Does age somehow relate to understanding?

Atum was worshipped throughout the majority of Ancient Egyptian history, from predynastic times through the Roman period. His worship peaked during the Old Kingdom (c. 2686–2181 BCE), when he was the supreme creator god.

budaatum:
Why should I Check which are the oldest religions?

Does age somehow relate to understanding?

Atum was worshipped throughout the majority of Ancient Egyptian history, from predynastic times through the Roman period. His worship peaked during the Old Kingdom (c. 2686–2181 BCE), when he was the supreme creator god.

This is about the dates the Messianic ideas originated in each religion:

Judaism - Written: 1000 BCE
Expects the coming of the Messiah (Mashiach), a human leader from the line of David.
This figure is expected to restore Israel, bring peace, and rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem.
Has not been fulfilled in mainstream Jewish belief.

Christianity - Written: 50 CE
Are expecting the Second Coming of Christ, when Jesus returns to judge the world and complete salvation history.

Islam - Written: 610 CE
ʿĪsā (Jesus) is expected to return near the end times.
The Mahdi, a guided leader, is expected to appear and restore justice (especially emphasized in Shia Islam, also present in Sunni traditions).

Zoroastrianism - Written: 1200 BCE
Expects the Saoshyant, a future saviour who will bring about the final renovation of the world, defeat evil, and resurrect the dead.

Hinduism 1500 BCE
In some traditions, the god Vishnu is expected to appear as the final avatar:
Kalki, who will arrive at the end of the current age (Kali Yuga) to restore dharma (cosmic order).

Buddhism 1200 BCE
Expects Maitreya, the future Buddha, who will appear when the teachings of the current Buddha have been forgotten and will rediscover and teach the Dharma anew.

MindHacker9009:
This is about the dates the Messiah ideas originated in each religion:

I can only suggest to you that the understanding of the religious ideas that originated whenever differ immensely from the understanding of some.

Take Judaism for instance. You say, written in 1000 BCE, and in the third chapter is it written that "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return". Yet later more recent additions mention a messiah, which in my own opinion contradicts that very verse, though you might yourself not see that a God that refuses to feed me and curses me to be responsible for my own food might also require me to be responsible for my own salvation.

Buddhism teaches The Truth of Suffering (Dukkha). The Origin of Suffering (Samudaya) is caused by craving, grasping, and ignorance. The Cessation of Suffering (Nirodha) (what some see as salvation), is by completely letting go of the cravings and attachments that bind us to dissatisfaction so as to achieve a state of liberation, peace, and enlightenment, known as Nirvana. And the Path to the End of Suffering (Magga) is by following the Noble Eightfold Path, which consists of eight interconnected practices that guide ethical conduct, mental discipline, and wisdom.

No where does it claim some messiah will come and save anyone, but as I said, some will be blind or lame or deaf or ill and seek messianic solutions, while some will seek to understand what they are told instead of just believing crap that only enslaves them.

The concept of messianism is not accepted by all in the religions you mentioned, and even in Christianity, some know they themselves are the saviour gods who will "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth" and be blessed with their own salvation.

Please know that I am having this conversation with you because you hack minds. To me it means you first hack your own mind so as to understand, and have done so regarding religions too.

budaatum:
I can only suggest to you that the understanding of the religious ideas that originated whenever differ immensely from the understanding of some.

Take Judaism for instance. You say, written in 1000 BCE, and in the third chapter is it written that "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return". Yet later more recent additions mention a messiah, which in my own opinion contradicts that very verse, though you might yourself not see that a God that refuses to feed me and curses me to be responsible for my own food might also require me to be responsible for my own salvation.

Buddhism teaches The Truth of Suffering (Dukkha). The Origin of Suffering (Samudaya) is caused by craving, grasping, and ignorance. The Cessation of Suffering (Nirodha) (what some see as salvation), is by completely letting go of the cravings and attachments that bind us to dissatisfaction so as to achieve a state of liberation, peace, and enlightenment, known as Nirvana. And the Path to the End of Suffering (Magga) is by following the Noble Eightfold Path, which consists of eight interconnected practices that guide ethical conduct, mental discipline, and wisdom.

No where does it claim some messiah will come and save anyone, but as I said, some will be blind or lame or deaf or ill and seek messianic solutions, while some will seek to understand what they are told instead of just believing crap that only enslaves them.

The concept of messianism is not accepted by all in the religions you mentioned, and even in Christianity, some know they themselves are the saviour gods who will "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth" and be blessed with their own salvation.

Please know that I am having this conversation with you because you hack minds. To me it means you first hack your own mind so as to understand, and have done so regarding religions too.

In the Ethiopian epic Kebra Nagast (“Glory of Kings”):

The Queen of Sheba visits King Solomon in Jerusalem.
Their son, Menelik I, later travels to Jerusalem.
He returns to Ethiopia with sacred objects and Levite priests.

This is why only Ethiopia has the original Jewish scriptures in the Kebra Nagast and are different from the Roman Empire version you have been taught, after the Roman Empire destroyed or took away and kept the original Jewish scriptures from Jerusalem and used their own new version to hack your mind. This is why my posts here are to de-hack your mind.

MindHacker9009:
In the Ethiopian epic Kebra Nagast (“Glory of Kings”):

The Queen of Sheba visits King Solomon in Jerusalem.
Their son, Menelik I, later travels to Jerusalem.
He returns to Ethiopia with sacred objects and Levite priests.

This is why only Ethiopia has the original Jewish scriptures in the Kebra Nagast and are different from the Roman Empire version you have been taught, after the Roman Empire destroyed or took away and kept the original Jewish scriptures and used their own new version to hack your mind. This is why my posts here are to de-hack your mind.

I was never "taught" what you think and I have already hacked my own mind, for that is how one gains understandimg.

The Orthodox Tewahedo biblical canon does not differ much from the Tanakh, and the messianic idea is a later Christian addition, though it prevailed in most religions before that, likely due to human helplessness.

And the messianic idea in buddhism, which promotes self reliance, is what some buddhist would use to separate fools from their money just as it is in most religions.

And for your information, the Kebra Nagast is not a collection of the original Jewish scriptures; rather, it is a 14th-century Ethiopian national and religious epic compiled in the Ge'ez language around the 1300s to document the legendary founding of the Ethiopian royal line by Menelik.

All history in religious texts are pseudo history from the eyes of their writers for their own nations glory.

MindHacker9009:
In the Ethiopian epic Kebra Nagast (“Glory of Kings”):

The Queen of Sheba visits King Solomon in Jerusalem.
Their son, Menelik I, later travels to Jerusalem.
He returns to Ethiopia with sacred objects and Levite priests.

This is why only Ethiopia has the original Jewish scriptures in the Kebra Nagast and are different from the Roman Empire version you have been taught, after the Roman Empire destroyed or took away and kept the original Jewish scriptures from Jerusalem and used their own new version to hack your mind. This is why my posts here are to de-hack your mind.

is it true queen Sheba demanded sex from Solomon when she came to visit him

Ebenezer2021:
is it true queen Sheba demanded sex from Solomon when she came to visit him

No it was king Solomon that a trap for queen Sheba which she walked into and king Solomon used that trap to enter her.

MindHacker9009:
No it was king Solomon that a trap for queen Sheba which she walked into and king Solomon used that trap to enter her.

but they had sex right?

budaatum:
I was never "taught" what you think and I have already hacked my own mind, for that is how one gains understand .

The Orthodox Tewahedo biblical canon does not differ much from the Tanakh, and the messianic idea is a later Christian addition, though it prevailed in most religions before that, likely due to human helplessness.

And the messianic idea in buddhism, which promotes self reliance, is what some buddhist would use to separate fools from their money just as it is in most religions.

And for your information, the Kebra Nagast is not a collection of the original Jewish scriptures; rather, it is a 14th-century Ethiopian national and religious epic compiled in the Ge'ez language around the 1300s to document the legendary founding of the Ethiopian royal line by Menelik.

All history in religious texts are pseudo history from the eyes of their writers for their own nations glory.

The Kebra Nagast tells of events during the time of King Solomon. Its significance is that it preserves Ethiopian traditions and interpretations that are not found in the biblical canon given by the Roman empire.

MindHacker9009:
The Kebra Nagast tells of events during the time of King Solomon. Its significance is that it preserves Ethiopian traditions and interpretations that are not found in the biblical canon given by the Roman empire.

It was written in 1300CE, and there is nothing original about it!

Even the Hebrew texts of the Israelites are not original, as Egypt will tell you a different version of the "history" of the Israelites whom they enslaved for centuries.

Ebenezer2021:
but they had sex right?

As written in the Ethiopian Kebra Nagast.

MindHacker9009:
As written in the Ethiopian Kebra Nagast.

thank you

budaatum:
It was written in 1300CE, and there is nothing original about it!

Even the Hebrew texts of the Israelites are not original, as Egypt will tell you a different version of the "history" of the Israelites whom they enslaved for centuries.

Saying "It was written in 1300 CE, and there is nothing original about it" oversimplifies the issue.

The Kebra Nagast was compiled in the 14th century, but that does not mean its content originated then. Like many ancient works, it draws on earlier Ethiopian and Jewish traditions, going back to the time of king Solomon.

Historians distinguish between the date of a manuscript or compilation and the age of the traditions it preserves. The same is true for many religious books and other ancient texts.