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Pastor Dolapo Lawal, recently delivered an enlightening message on the topic, "Once saved, always saved," stating in unequivocal terms that a Christian's salvation can indeed be reversed and invalidated, when the Christian willfully decides to cultivate a sinful lifestyle.

The position of Pastor Adedolapo Lawal on this doctrine is 100% in conformity with the living word of GOD.

In Revelation 21:27, the word of GOD says, "And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life."

In other words, under no condition whatsoever will anyone that engages in those activities that defile(such as fraud, alcoholism, indecent/provocative dressing, forgery, backdating, exam malpractice, smoking, malice, unforgiveness etc.) or those that commit abominations( such as adultery, fornication, masturbation, MouthAction, anal sex, murder etc.) or those that lie, be allowed to enter Heaven.

In line with this, are there Christians that commit fraud?

The answer is, yes.

Are there Christians that still drink and other alcoholic drinks, and even still smoke cigarettes and other hard drugs?

The answer is, yes.

Are there still Christians that engage in exam malpractice?

The answer is, yes.

Are there still Christians that dress indecently and provocatively?

The answer is, yes.

Are there still Christians that commit fornication, adultery and confidently watch porn?

The answer is, yes.

Lastly, are there still Christians that lie constantly?

Again, the answer is, yes.

The volcanic question is, can these Christians sincerely expect to be welcomed to Heaven at the expiration of their time on earth?

The volcanic answer is, no!

A deafening no!

Any pastor that has a contrary view on this subject is a false prophet, and should not be accorded any audience by Christians who are walking on the narrow way that leads to Heaven.

The "Once saved, always saved," doctrine is the brainchild of the agents of darkness, and it does not even make sense to genuine Christians.

Or does it make sense that disobedient Christians who willfully and flagrantly disobey the commandments of GOD, will be allowed to enter Heaven at the end?

It should be known to all and sundry that Heaven is strictly reserved for the obedient and holy Christians.

Let those that have ears, hear what the Spirit is declaring to the Church – before it is too late!

https://ransomedbychrist.com/index.php?topic=3504.msg3507#msg3507

Even there are CRIMINALS in that Pastor DOLAPO'S CHURCH.

johnstin:
Pastor Dolapo Lawal, recently delivered an enlightening message on the topic, "Once saved, always saved," stating in unequivocal terms that a Christian's salvation can indeed be reversed and invalidated, when the Christian willfully decides to cultivate a sinful lifestyle.

The position of Pastor Adedolapo Lawal on this doctrine is 100% in conformity with the living word of GOD.

In Revelation 21:27, the word of GOD says, "And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life."

In other words, under no condition whatsoever will anyone that engages in those activities that defile(such as fraud, alcoholism, indecent/provocative dressing, forgery, backdating, exam malpractice, smoking, malice, unforgiveness etc.) or those that commit abominations( such as adultery, fornication, masturbation, MouthAction, anal sex, murder etc.) or those that lie, be allowed to enter Heaven.

So,how does pastor Dolapo Lawal relate this position with

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

In line with this, are there Christians that commit fraud?

The answer is, yes.

everybody commit sin„whether the person is Christian or not (Romsns 3:23)
Before God, sin is sin whether it fraud or any sin

Are there Christians that still drink and other alcoholic drinks, and even still smoke cigarettes and other hard drugs?

The answer is, yes.

everybody commit sin, whether the person is Christian or not. (Romsns 3:23)
Before God, sin is sin whether it is alcohol drinking or cigarettes or hard drugs

Are there still Christians that engage in exam malpractice?

The answer is, yes.

everybody commit sin, whether the person is Christian or not. (Romsns 3:23)
Before God, sin is sin whether it is examination malpractice or expo or whatever

The volcanic question is, can these Christians sincerely expect to be welcomed to Heaven at the expiration of their time on earth?

No!
The volcamic question is, are believers classified among anything that defiles in Revelation 21:27 simply because they are mere humans who live their lives by nature and commit sin like every other people on earth?

The answer is no!

Otherwise, the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is useless.

1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

Therefore, it is not your ability to stay way from your sin (which is not even possible in the first place) that justifies.
Rather, it is your FAITH that justifies !

SO PASTOR DOLAPO LAWAL IS WRONG ON THIS

paxonel:
So,how does pastor Dolapo Lawal relate this position with

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
everybody commit sin„whether the person is Christian or not (Romsns 3:23)..

Did the pastor say that we do not have sins? No.

What he said is to the effect that we must stop sinning exactly as Jesus commanded.

When you forgive your children's sins yesterday does it mean that you have forgiven today when they disrespectfully spited you in front of the family today? No.

Forgiveness today is for yesterday's sins and it cannot cover next week's sins, so the forgiven must stop sinning if he does not want to have fresh cases against him.

So, you are the one who is wrong

Dtruthspeaker:
Did the pastor say that we do not have sins? No.

What he said is to the effect that we must stop sinning exactly as Jesus commanded.

This has nothing to do with salvation, so why is he bringing salvation into it?

Or is he not aware that scriptures says the just shall live by his faith and not by his works ?

Another scripture says by strength shall no man prevail

So, you are the one who is wrong

No

Both of you are wrong

paxonel:
This has nothing to do with salvation, so why is he bringing salvation into it?

Or is he not aware that scriptures says the just shall live by his faith and not by his works ?

Another scripture says by strength shall no man prevail

No

Both of you are wrong

You don't want to know what salvation is if not you would have remembered that the same people who cried and said "who then can be saved" are the same ones who said

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.

Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

So making excuses that you are accustomed to sinning is proof that you are not saved and are not ready to be saved.

So the bottomline is that forgiveness today is always for yesterday's sins . It can never cover next week's sins, so you are the one who is wrong

Dtruthspeaker:
You don't want to know what salvation is if not you would have remembered that the same people who cried and said "who then can be saved" are the same ones who said

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.

Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

Yes, it is good not to sin!
But that does not translate to salvation.
Otherwise the Jews would have been saved being that they had the law and they kept the 10 commandments which the gentiles did not have.
Yet many of the gentiles were saved the Jews were casted away.

So making excuses that you are accustomed to sinning is proof that you are not saved

Lies!

The only proof of salvation is faith. Hebrews 11:1

And the benefit of not sinning is avoidance of it physical consequences.
For the wages of sin death.
If you commit murder for instance, you are liable to be sentenced to death.
Not that you will not make heaven as a Christian.

So the bottomline is that forgiveness today is always for yesterday's sins . It can never cover next week's sins, so you are the one who is wrong

Contrary to this, scripture says while we are yet sinners Christ died

paxonel:
Yes, it is good not to sin!
But that does not translate to salvation.
Otherwise the Jews would have been saved being that they had the law and they kept the 10 commandments which the gentiles did not have.
Yet many of the gentiles were saved the Jews were casted away.

Lies!

The only proof of salvation is faith. Hebrews 11:1

And the benefit of not sinning is avoidance of it physical consequences.
For the wages of sin death.
If you commit murder for instance, you are liable to be sentenced to death.
Not that you will not make heaven as a Christian.

Contrary to this, scripture says while we are yet sinners Christ died

Did I not say you don't want salvation is?

And see how you are proving that you are a deceiver?

Revelation 21:8, already Said that when God sentences you to death, you are going to the eternal Fire and not to heaven

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

And as i said forgiveness today is always for yesterday's sins and not for tomorrow's sins, so and Paul knowing that depraved minds like you must think as you do already answered you saying that you cannot crucify to yourself the Son of God afresh, and put Him to shame again. Christ cannot die everyday to wash away your sins.

forgiveness today is always for yesterday's sins and not for tomorrow's sins.

And already you fulfil Hebrews 10:26/27 seeing how you fear lake fire that you even lied to say that murderers won't go there.


For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

As I said it making excuses that you are accustomed to sinning is proof that you are not saved

Dtruthspeaker:
Did I not say you don't want salvation is?

And see how you are proving that you are a deceiver?

if you call me names again without being factual about it, please don't quote me again.
It's already a sign that you have lost the argument.

You see the way i make my argument from the beginning of this thread.
No insult
I'm not being emotional
I gave reasons why the pastor is wrong before concluding that he is wrong without insulting or calling him names

Revelation 21:8, already Said that when God sentences you to death, you are going to the eternal Fire and not to heaven

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

with this scripture you quoted, you have not prove that the resurrection of Christ is of no use to salvation, that your personal righteousness is what saves you

And as i said forgiveness today is always for yesterday's sins and not for tomorrow's sins, so and Paul knowing that depraved minds like you must think as you do already answered you saying that you cannot crucify to yourself the Son of God afresh, and put Him to shame again. Christ cannot die everyday to wash away your sins.

this your analogy does not follow!

Rather,

Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Romans 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

forgiveness today is always for yesterday's sins and not for tomorrow's sins.

you do not have any scripture in support of this your wrong assertion

b]Hebrews 10:26/27 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Is this not what I'm saying when i said If you commit murder for instance, you are liable to be sentenced to death.

When they sentence you to death by a court of law is that not judgement?

You that claim to be Christian go an commit murder or any sin let's see what will happen to you.

You think the resurrection of Christ will save you?

People like you
Your problem is you lack understanding

paxonel:
if you call me names again without being factual about it, please don't quote me again.
It's already a sign that you have lost the argument.

You see the way i make my argument from the beginning of this thread.
No insult
I'm not being emotional
I gave reasons why the pastor is wrong before concluding that he is wrong without insulting or calling him names
with this scripture you quoted, you have not prove that the resurrection of Christ is of no use to salvation, that your personal righteousness is what saves you
this your analogy does not follow!

Rather,

Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Romans 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
you do not have any scripture in support of this your wrong assertion

Is this not what I'm saying when i said If you commit murder for instance, you are liable to be sentenced to death.

When they sentence you to death by a court of law is that not judgement?

You that claim to be Christian go an commit murder or any sin let's see what will happen to you.

You think the resurrection of Christ will save you?

People like you
Your problem is you lack understanding

I did not call you names, you saw what scripture said and i pointed out that you fit the description.

Secondly, i already showed how a d why you are wrong then you you moved to salvation and now i have again answered and now you moved post to resurrection.

Man, i cannot do endless arguments It's your life or death! I have done. my part in warning you but you would not heed, so it's time to wait for The Judgement of God to settle these things

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paxonel:
So,how does pastor Dolapo Lawal relate this position with

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
everybody commit sin„whether the person is Christian or not (Romsns 3:23)
Before God, sin is sin whether it fraud or any sin
everybody commit sin, whether the person is Christian or not. (Romsns 3:23)
Before God, sin is sin whether it is alcohol drinking or cigarettes or hard drugs
everybody commit sin, whether the person is Christian or not. (Romsns 3:23)
Before God, sin is sin whether it is examination malpractice or expo or whatever
No!
The volcamic question is, are believers classified among anything that defiles in Revelation 21:27 simply because they are mere humans who live their lives by nature and commit sin like every other people on earth?

The answer is no!

Otherwise, the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is useless.

1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

Therefore, it is not your ability to stay way from your sin (which is not even possible in the first place) that justifies.
Rather, it is your FAITH that justifies !

SO PASTOR DOLAPO LAWAL IS WRONG ON THIS

So one after being a Christian can be a terrorist and be saved?

Dtruthspeaker:
I did not call you names, you saw what scripture said and i pointed out that you fit the description.

Secondly, i already showed how a d why you are wrong then you you moved to salvation and now i have again answered and now you moved post to resurrection.

Man, i cannot do endless arguments It's your life or death! I have done. my part in warning you but you would not heed, so it's time to wait for The Judgement of God to settle these things

Ok,
Let's wait for the Pastor Dolapo to comment on the matter.

If he is for real, I'm very sure by now, he will see the error in his post and do a quiet and simcere correction to himself

Truthseeker10:
So one after being a Christian can be a terrorist and be saved?

Nigerian pastors have been terrorizing Nigerians with fake prophecies and teachings, intimidating them with the African cultural and traditional myths and fictional beliefs and norms to gain acceptance and amass wealth from their ignorance without any government agency bold enough to step in, and regulate their illegal activities for more than a century now.
(Thank God for Governor Soludo of Anambra state who has taken a bold step recently to initiate a rescue)

Inspite their illegal activities, Nothing has stopped them from being Christians.

Does that not tell you that the concept of religion or spirituality or salvation is a vague concept which make sense only to the mind ?

paxonel:
Nigerian pastors have been terrorizing Nigerians with fake prophecies and teachings, intimidating them with the African cultural and traditional myths and fictional beliefs and norms to gain acceptance and amass wealth from their ignorance without any government agency bold enough to step in, and regulate their illegal activities for more than a century now.
(Thank God for Governor Soludo of Anambra state who has taken a bold step recently to initiate a rescue)

Inspite their illegal activities, Nothing has stopped them from being Christians.

Does that not tell you that the concept of religion or spirituality or salvation is a vague concept which make sense only to the mind ?

This is not the answer to my question.

So one after being a Christian can be a terrorist and be saved, yes or no?

Truthseeker10:
This is not the answer to my question.

So one after being a Christian can be a terrorist and be saved, yes or no?

And the summary of what i said is, your pastor is a terrorist.
Ask yourself, is he saved?
You will get your answer

paxonel:
And the summary of what i said is, your pastor is a terrorist.
Ask yourself, is he saved?
You will get your answer

You should answer the question. You claim to know what saves a man who is a terrorist. So please tell us.

Truthseeker10:
You should answer the question. You claim to know what saves a man who is a terrorist. So please tell us.

Everyone in Christianity are saved be it a terrorist, scammer, prostitute, liar or whatever.
Including all the fraudulent pastors,
That is the essence of Christianity

paxonel:
Everyone in Christianity are saved be it a terrorist, scammer, prostitute, liar or whatever.
Including all the fraudulent pastors,
That is the essence of Christianity

The essence of Christianity is for a Christian to be a terrorist and be saved?

Truthseeker10:
The essence of Christianity is for a Christian to be a terrorist and be saved?

The right question you should ask is, how has Christianity made these people saved inspite that they are sinners?

And what is this salvation were are talking about?

paxonel:
The right question you should ask is, how has Christianity made these people saved inspite that they are sinners?

And what is this salvation were are talking about?

You can explain.

Truthseeker10:
You can explain.

What we call salvation is spiritual.
At the other hand, sin is physical. So there is nothing connects the two.

paxonel:
What we call salvation is spiritual.
At the other hand, sin is physical. So there is nothing connects the two.

bible verse?

Truthseeker10:
bible verse?

If you are sensitive enough to comprehend the logic behind this thing, it is called mutually exclusivity of two different scenario. That is, if it is the one, then it is not the other, or if it is the other, then it is not the one.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

That is, if it is Faith, then it is not the law, and if it is the law, then it is not Faith

paxonel:
If you are sensitive enough to comprehend the logic behind this thing, it is called mutually exclusivity of two different scenario. That is, if it is the one, then it is not the other, or if it is the other, then it is not the one.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

That is, if it is Faith, then it is not the law, and if it is the law, then it is not Faith

So a Christian who is a terrorist has faith?

Truthseeker10:
So a Christian who is a terrorist has faith?

That's why he is a Christian.
Christianity is the Faith.

But for his terrorism offence, he will certainly face the consequences

paxonel:
What we call salvation is spiritual.
At the other hand, sin is physical. So there is nothing connects the two.

So when a person wishes to steals those blocks of money we see in the bank in his mind he is not guilty of stealing because he has not physically stolen it, is that what you are saying?

paxonel:
That's why he is a Christian.
Christianity is the Faith.

But for his terrorism offence, he will certainly face the consequences

Faith is Christianity that makes a Christian who chooses to be a terrorist saved? If yes, where does the Bible say so?

Dtruthspeaker:
So when a wishes to steals those blocks of money we see in the bank in his mind he is not guilty of stealing because he has not physically stolen it, is that what you are saying?

No!

Salvation mean that a person is saved from death after he has died.
But how do we know that this fact is true seeing that nobody can go into the spirit realm to confirm the fact?
The only way we can know is to read the bible, that makes the fact a spiritual one.
On the other hand, some who commit sin can be seen, touched and even judged in a court. This makes every sin a physical exercise.
Therefore the only sin that is spiritual and deserve spiritual judgement is when you refuse to believe in Christ

paxonel:
No!

Salvation mean that a person is saved from death after he has died.
But how do we know that this fact is true seeing that nobody can go into the spirit realm to confirm the fact?
The only way we can know is to read the bible, that makes the fact a spiritual one.
On the other hand, some who commit sin can be seen, touched and even judged in a court. This makes every sin a physical exercise.
Therefore the only sin that is spiritual and deserve spiritual judgement is when you refuse to believe in Christ

I don't understand what you mean by "No". The question is clearly not a yes and no answer.

Secondly, Christ came from the spirit realm and told us that everything that happens on earth first happens in the spirit realm.

But no wahala, i know all these are your delus and wishes

Dtruthspeaker:
I don't understand what you mean by "No". The question is clearly not a yes and no answer.

Secondly, Christ came from the spirit realm and told us that everything that happens on earth first happens in the spirit realm.

But no wahala, i know all these are your delus and wishes

I also know that the gospel you preach are your delus and wishes. So can you stay on your own and stop quoting me or asking me questions you know you don't need the answers

paxonel:
No!

Salvation mean that a person is saved from death after he has died.
But how do we know that this fact is true seeing that nobody can go into the spirit realm to confirm the fact?
The only way we can know is to read the bible, that makes the fact a spiritual one.
On the other hand, some who commit sin can be seen, touched and even judged in a court. This makes every sin a physical exercise.
Therefore the only sin that is spiritual and deserve spiritual judgement is when you refuse to believe in Christ

Waoo!

Very correct on this.
The sin that men commit can only affect this physical rhelm