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Bryanluke:
I saw this installed on aluminium roof. I'm not sure this person used rail on this 2pcs of 200w panel. But my own roof is slate

nothing bad installing there BUT like I said earlier, there are silly things one could get away with on smaller installations BUT when doing those much higher, shouldn't be. Also 2pcs of 200w or even 300w is small.

But for those without much technical knowHow, if you can't afford the standard mounting rails, kukuma go for the cheaper ones Aluminium or just use binding wire or the stainless abi wetin person just recommended above

Amovingman:
Be careful of bryanluke aka Stephen ayantoye on this thread

He's looking for a way to scam people's on this thread

Don't say I didn't warn you oooo

why not drop evidence supporting your claim or you don't think anyOne could come and say anything about one. Some of us are quick to hear negatives of others BUT when later such names are cleared, we rarely hear / read about them hence reason not to defame people anyhow

bassdow:
nothing bad installing there BUT like I said earlier, there are silly things one could get away with on smaller installations BUT when doing those much higher, shouldn't be. Also 2pcs of 200w or even 300w is small.

But for those without much technical knowHow, if you can't afford the standard mounting rails, kukuma go for the cheaper ones Aluminium or just use binding wire or the stainless abi wetin person just recommended above

yes I'm using binding wire jare.. thanks

bassdow:
Actually I just tell people to use those sockets with round holes and they should buy it tokunbo. Or just tell the seller it's for big electric cooker. You over paint a big picture so they get what you mean and compromise less.

Also should use minimum of 4mm AC wire though would suggest 6mm or higher

those round hole socket are known as 15ah socket

mctfopt:
If you buy the cheapo. Have been using mine for more than 4 years now with no issue.

Buy a good brand, don't cheap out and you are good.

Recently upgraded mine this year. Same result.

Don't just buy cheaply made one.

The pot cover of my recent purchase weighs 1.62kg

Who is your plug bro??

Bryanluke:
can you share the sample of the binding wire you talking about and also I'm not putting it on aluminium or iron roof. It's a slate roof like i said earlier

I dont have them, because l dont use them, I use Aluminum Window Profile as Railings for my Panels.
But l have seen them at the Market, when buying Iron, Binding Wires and other Building Materials in the Past.

My own advise is that: The risk of fire is very high, when things are not done properly and with standard materials.
Moreover, fire from Lithium Batteries should never happen to anyone, if is so ferocious and doesn't hear "e don do".

Spending extra #30,000+- for Aluminum Railings and steel Wires, to save one's property, family and House, is not a bad bargain though l understand that fingers are not equal.
Each man to his own, at the end of the day.

You're right and thanks for your concern and utmost understanding.. all hands are not equal however you said the aluminium railing for 2pcs of 200w won't cost me than 30k

Also to avoid roofing leakage, if i knack nail with the aluminium on the slate before placing panel, hope there won't be any roofing leakage boss

smallsmall:
I dont have them, because l dont use them, I use Aluminum Window Profile as Railings for my Panels.
But l have seen them at the Market, when buying Iron, Binding Wires and other Building Materials in the Past.

My own advise is that: The risk of fire is very high, when things are not done properly and with standard materials.
Moreover, fire from Lithium Batteries should never happen to anyone, if is so ferocious and doesn't hear "e don do".

Spending extra #30,000+- for Aluminum Railings and steel Wires, to save one's property, family and House, is not a bad bargain though l understand that fingers are not equal.
Each man to his own, at the end of the day.

smallsmall:
I dont have them, because l dont use them, I use Aluminum Window Profile as Railings for my Panels.
But l have seen them at the Market, when buying Iron, Binding Wires and other Building Materials in the Past.

My own advise is that: The risk of fire is very high, when things are not done properly and with standard materials.
Moreover, fire from Lithium Batteries should never happen to anyone, if is so ferocious and doesn't hear "e don do".

Spending extra #30,000+- for Aluminum Railings and steel Wires, to save one's property, family and House, is not a bad bargain though l understand that fingers are not equal.
Each man to his own, at the end of the day.

pls is it aluminium profile used here or just binding wire in the image below

Bryanluke:
You're right and thanks for your concern and utmost understanding.. all hands are not equal however you said the aluminium railing for 2pcs of 200w won't cost me than 30k

Also to avoid roofing leakage, if i knack nail with the aluminium on the slate before placing panel, hope there won't be any roofing leakage boss

No! I was speaking generally.
That amount is what One Profile (about 20ft length) of Aluminum Cost, when l bought them.
You might even get small pieces (Offcut) of half or quarter length.
As for leakage, there si a felt they use to waterproof the joints. They also use Silicone to do the same Job.

Since your Panels are just two, you might not need to be too concerned, maybe l am just too risk-averse.
If you have space, why not do a sort of Car-port installation, instead of a Roof install?
Someone gave a good and detailed explanation of such installation, with pictures, not more than Ten pages behind this current page.

I just hope everyone doing DIY is safe, success of ONE is success of ALL.

Bryanluke:
pls is it aluminium profile used here or just binding wire in the image below

1) No Aluminum Profile was used.

2) I cant see the Binding Wire but l guess it is there, maybe the color blended with the Brown Roof.

3) Or maybe the installer Screwed the Panel Down, to the Wood of the Roof.

I dont recommend what l am seeing here but it does not mean it wont work..... it just present some level of elevated risk.

smallsmall:
No! I was speaking generally.
That amount is what One Profile (about 20ft length) of Aluminum Cost, when l bought them.
You might even get small pieces (Offcut) of half or quarter length.
As for leakage, there si a felt they use to waterproof the joints. They also use Silicone to do the same Job.

Since your Panels are just two, you might not need to be too concerned, maybe l am just too risk-averse.
If you have space, why not do a sort of Car-port installation, instead of a Roof install?
Someone gave a good and detailed explanation of such installation, with pictures, not more than Ten pages behind this current page.

I just hope everyone doing DIY is safe, success of ONE is success of ALL.

since it's just two like you said i might not need aluminium can place it on roof directly with binding wire.. for having car-port no space, however remember I said it earlier the landlord is skeptical doesn't want it either that it burns house .so he wanted to give me a free space on top of an old tank to use at his own store house roof which consume a lot of Dc wire before it get to my apartment

You mean this can easiiy get burnt if thunder strike cux i no want burn person house cux the landlord already said it burn house... so i need to be careful..

However, you also said 200w 2panels is stil good can't cause fire

smallsmall:
1) No Aluminum Profile was used.

2) I cant see the Binding Wire but l guess it is there, maybe the color blended with the Brown Roof.

3) Or maybe the installer Screwed the Panel Down, to the Wood of the Roof.

I dont recommend what l am seeing here but it does not mean it wont work..... it just present some level of elevated risk.

Bryanluke:
You mean this can easiiy get burnt if thunder strike cux i no want burn person house cux the landlord already said it burn house... so i need to be careful..

However, you also said 200w 2panels is stil good can't cause fire

You are misquoting me!
My bottom line is: Do it properly and you wont have to worry, and can be certain you wont burn anything.
I have Panels on my Roof since 2017, No Fire.


Probability of Thunder striking it on that Tank, is very, very low, due to its low height above ground.
Worst case, it will damage your Panels and maybe the connected Equipments inside the House (Inverter, Charge Controller, Electronics, etc).
It wont burn the Tank.

Mrreed:
The difference isn't significant

Yes with the new adjustable wattage infrared cooker I will prefer it to induction cooker.

micxwell:
Who is your plug bro??

Just check online or if you have people in China let them source for you there.

Or enter market and check kitchenware dealers. By their price, feel and build you shall know the real deal.

Bryanluke:
those round hole socket are known as 15ah socket

you speak language the common man understands ELSE you go dey find wetin dey your front

Bryanluke:
pls is it aluminium profile used here or just binding wire in the image below

for something of this capacity, doesn't make much sennse spending on mounting rails or even the Aluminium profile sef. Just use binding wire. Atimes we end up overPlanning things

in fact if doing less than 4pcs of 300w solar panels sef, still quicker andn cheaper using binding wire or the stainless steel wire someone suggested or binding wire with the solar panels sitting on top of it. Also using binding wire / stainless steel wires annd tying or nailing on the roof reduces risks of leakAges.

Instead spend those funds on getting bigger and more quality things such as inverters, charge controllers, battery, etc.

Also if handling things yourself, be sure you know what you doing else even with the right tools, you still could end up with bad work than soemone who didn't spend on those things.

Extreeme care is mostly required and necessary for big setups, not these very small ones

Bro Just buy the rails. During dry season temperature of your panel go high which will affect your yield. The rail job is not just to mount but to also give clearance between your roof and panel and also let air pass through. The rail náà 6k and the hooks baa 200 naira per one

Bryanluke:
I saw this installed on aluminium roof. I'm not sure this person used rail on this 2pcs of 200w panel. But my own roof is slate

Baba you no suppose spend 10k

Bryanluke:
You're right and thanks for your concern and utmost understanding.. all hands are not equal however you said the aluminium railing for 2pcs of 200w won't cost me than 30k

Also to avoid roofing leakage, if i knack nail with the aluminium on the slate before placing panel, hope there won't be any roofing leakage boss

Who has Tiger one Billion V3 for sale?

Bryanluke:
since it's just two like you said i might not need aluminium can place it on roof directly with binding wire.. for having car-port no space, however remember I said it earlier the landlord is skeptical doesn't want it either that it burns house .so he wanted to give me a free space on top of an old tank to use at his own store house roof which consume a lot of Dc wire before it get to my apartment

bro I don’t know why you are disturbed really..See as long as your roof isn’t aluminum or zinc roofing material that generate a lot of heat during peak sun,u don’t need railings for 2 200w panels…..if your roofing material is slate/cement fibre place it directly and be done with it..I mounted 4 pieces of 200w on my previous apartment with cement fibre roof for 5 years during my bachelor days roughly 2 years back with binding…I just made sure every 2 years I check for rust and I never changed any binding wire…it was even easy to unmount them when I left..no leakages during and after…

Just find a professional to mount them,,don’t do them yourself….Now I want to mount this 4 panels on my mums slate roof and yes I will be using binding wire, most likely the anti rust own…Nah person wey go help me mount am I dey find.

U

AyarmBoye:
bro I don’t know why you are disturbed really..See as long as your roof isn’t aluminum or zinc roofing material that generate a lot of heat during peak sun,u don’t need railings for 2 200w panels…..if your roofing material is slate/cement fibre place it directly and be done with it..I mounted 4 pieces of 200w on my previous apartment with cement fibre roof for 5 years during my bachelor days roughly 2 years back with binding…I just made sure every 2 years I check for rust and I never changed any binding wire…it was even easy to unmount them when I left..no leakages during and after…

Just find a professional to mount them,,don’t do them yourself….Now I want to mount this 4 panels on my mums slate roof and yes I will be using binding wire, most likely the anti rust own…Nah person wey go help me mount am I dey find.

thanks for this boss.. I'm not mounting myself, I only shared the pic of the binding wire i got and also I'll be using an experience carpenter who do house roofing to climb and bind the 2pcs of 200w panel on the roof directly without using the aluminum profile since I do not have issues generating fire from it

AyarmBoye:
bro I don’t know why you are disturbed really..See as long as your roof isn’t aluminum or zinc roofing material that generate a lot of heat during peak sun,u don’t need railings for 2 200w panels…..if your roofing material is slate/cement fibre place it directly and be done with it..I mounted 4 pieces of 200w on my previous apartment with cement fibre roof for 5 years during my bachelor days roughly 2 years back with binding…I just made sure every 2 years I check for rust and I never changed any binding wire…it was even easy to unmount them when I left..no leakages during and after…

Just find a professional to mount them,,don’t do them yourself….Now I want to mount this 4 panels on my mums slate roof and yes I will be using binding wire, most likely the anti rust own…Nah person wey go help me mount am I dey find.

Abeg allow him/her take suggestions Ooo.

Me don talk ma own, me don rest. Even for 10 years, binding wire no go rust cut and I say these things because during my early years, it'sw what I used mostly including for my personal self. na most clients I dey do Oyinbo style for.

Also as for clearance to allow Air, funny enough that's mute reason for me as even those cheap rails don't give any spacing any more than the binding wire does.

Also even if the roofing sheet is aluminum or zinc, doesn't matter much except you really want to put in the effort to leave a gap of at least 6-inches between the solar panels and roofing sheet.

As for you wey dey check your own evevry 2-years, I would be surprised if you have had any reason to change it. Those things no dey rust like that. It's not like it would stay submerged in water + if you do like I often suggest which is placing the solar panel above it or wearing it straw, then e go continue dey shine like the day you bought it.

One of the reasons a lot of people would need lots of talking to before they take suggestions is probably because they not paying for them.

Funny thing is, hope say at end of the day, after spending these unnecessary monies, He/She doesn't skimp on spending more on other places it really matters in.

Some go manage cement, buy yeye sand, mould/buy yeye blocks, rarely use pillars YET at end of the day, spend so much to do parapet and the likes.

Like I often suggest, most times, when using mounting rail on a rented property, abeg when leaving, try not to remove it except you ready to make the intentional effort into ensuring there wouldn't be any leakAges

Bryanluke:
U thanks for this boss.. I'm not mounting myself, I only shared the pic of the binding wire i got and also I'll be using an experience carpenter who do house roofing to climb and bind the 2pcs of 200w panel on the roof directly without using the aluminum profile since I do not have issues generating fire from it

Actually, those mounting accessories mostly make the work easier especially if you have a need to earth the solar panels.

bassdow:
for something of this capacity, doesn't make much sennse spending on mounting rails or even the Aluminium profile sef. Just use binding wire. Atimes we end up overPlanning things

in fact if doing less than 4pcs of 300w solar panels sef, still quicker andn cheaper using binding wire or the stainless steel wire someone suggested or binding wire with the solar panels sitting on top of it. Also using binding wire / stainless steel wires annd tying or nailing on the roof reduces risks of leakAges.

Instead spend those funds on getting bigger and more quality things such as inverters, charge controllers, battery, etc.

Also if handling things yourself, be sure you know what you doing else even with the right tools, you still could end up with bad work than soemone who didn't spend on those things.

Extreeme care is mostly required and necessary for big setups, not these very small ones

thanks for the relief you gave me.. I'll use the binding wire and mount on the slate roof directly . Cux am using a Bsc 60ah pwm controller.. thanks

bassdow:
Like I often suggest, most times, when using mounting rail on a rented property, abeg when leaving, try not to remove it except you ready to make the intentional effort into ensuring there wouldn't be any leakAges

na why I no want use anything. I prefer binding wire. Plug & play to avoid any leakage cux the man no won gree from the onset due to panel fire he saw online..I tried convincing him it's Ai.. he only agreed i install it at a far place to my apartment

bassdow:
Actually, those mounting accessories mostly make the work easier especially if you have a need to earth the solar panels.

do i still need to earth my 2pcs of 200w panel for person house. I need to do earthing again

AyarmBoye:
bro I don’t know why you are disturbed really..See as long as your roof isn’t aluminum or zinc roofing material that generate a lot of heat during peak sun,u don’t need railings for 2 200w panels…..if your roofing material is slate/cement fibre place it directly and be done with it..I mounted 4 pieces of 200w on my previous apartment with cement fibre roof for 5 years during my bachelor days roughly 2 years back with binding…I just made sure every 2 years I check for rust and I never changed any binding wire…it was even easy to unmount them when I left..no leakages during and after…

Just find a professional to mount them,,don’t do them yourself….Now I want to mount this 4 panels on my mums slate roof and yes I will be using binding wire, most likely the anti rust own…Nah person wey go help me mount am I dey find.

thanks for this. With this i and my landlord are good with the use of binding wire.. but which one is cement fibre roof

Bryanluke:
U thanks for this boss.. I'm not mounting myself, I only shared the pic of the binding wire i got and also I'll be using an experience carpenter who do house roofing to climb and bind the 2pcs of 200w panel on the roof directly without using the aluminum profile since I do not have issues generating fire from it

please go ahead….The highest current you can get from 400w panel during peak sun is 20a on parallel connections and 10a on series assuming you operate on a 12v system,just make sure to use better DC cable you will be absolutely fine….

Bryanluke:
thanks for this. With this i and my landlord are good with the use of binding wire.. but which one is cement fibre roof

abestors like roofing materials

Bryanluke:
do i still need to earth my 2pcs of 200w panel for person house. I need to do earthing again

I believe your system is small enough,,I don’t think it’s necessary,,just have good and proper rating surge protectors for both AC and DC…