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IronGalaxy:
Exactly, my point..

jealous Southafrican,answer the simple question..

It's obvious that xenophobia is now a govt backed policy.

The Nigerian govt needs to respond in a cold, hard and calculating way.

Kalvan50:
Shifting blame by telling you to enforce your own laws instead of descend into mob rule?

If people are breaking your laws, arrest them, charge them and sentence them. Your inability to do that doesn’t justify the looting of businesses by fully grown men during business hours.

Refusing to own up to your criminality by pointing fingers at government is shifting blame.. whats stopping from behaving in other countries in the first place?

Tinubu supporters claim that he is a political strategist.

This is where we needs his so called strategic mind.

Lose what?
What are you talking about mate

Nteogwuija:
Because u stand to loose more.

Do you know how many Nigerians are on MTN and Stanbic's payroll?

PDPdestroyer:
I stand with the Southies on this, those drug dealers should be smoked out. Dem wan use Xenophobia take cover for the evil deeds of their brothers

Why are we not surprised from this your statement because same thing South Africa are doing to Nigeria is same thing you people are doing to your fellow Nigerians in this country called Nigeria.
We know how last Xenophobic exposed tribe that commit crime pass and littered all over South Africa which many of your people couldn't believe it and it was Allen Onyema,an Igbo man you poeple always hated that uses his Aircraft Airpeace to rescue your people which he is repeating again

IronGalaxy:
Refusing to own up to your criminality by pointing fingers at government is shifting blame.. whats stopping from behaving in other countries in the first place?

I’m sorry son, but do you struggle with English comprehension? Because if you do, I’m wasting my time trying to converse here…

My post implicitly and explicitly acknowledges that all forms of criminality both extant and imagined, should be addressed but follow due process not mob rule.

Laws exist because people, humans suck. Community pressure can only go so far. Once people started living in larger settlements, the establishment and enforcement of laws became the most effective ways to control the behavior of large swaths of people. Desmond Morris has a great book that touches on this - - the human zoo …

Nigeria should use military option if the south african government refuse

South Africans are drug lords themselves and should stop stigmatising and pointing fingers to other foreign nationals.

Minister Ntshavheni saying it like it is🇿🇦🏆

I've always maintained that African governments will be highly embarrassed once they put this issue on the AU agenda.

PDPdestroyer:
I stand with the Southies on this, those drug dealers should be smoked out. Dem wan use Xenophobia take cover for the evil deeds of their brothers

So the Nigerian Government is the one policing South Africa? No be una fault sha. If you people can believe a lunatic who told you you can get R1m per year! because of the current GDP wey go soon drop drastically in the short run.
I mean...
The near future will certainly tell.

Look at what the stupid minister is saying? U claim u are only after illegals so how do illegals get legally registered properties unless shes implying legals migrants with properties are also targeted. Hopeless dumbass xenophobics.

I don't blame the silly South African government for this insult on the whole Nigeria state.
I blame our weak government.
Who would have given Cyril Ramaphosa's regime this kind of insulting mouth during Abacha,Obj, Muritala or Buhari-Idiaogbon government?
Who born small Ch..I..cken Ramaphosa to try this no.n..se.nse during those men time?
Even big British government collect am wotowoto from Naija for something that wasn't as terrible as what Xenophobic Republic is doing now.
When they seized our plane with the crew members for Umaru Dikko saga in London, Buhari seized a whole British Airways in Lagos airport as a retaliation.
Paul Biya try that non..sense with Naija citizens in Bakassi Peninsula, Abacha became annoy and not even European super power like France was able to deliver Cameroun from Abacha's hand.
Before Biya could blink an eye, Naija military almost wiped out every living thing in Camerounian controlled territory.
Those were the men that made Nigeria to command great respect from the rest of the world.
Not this weakling we have now in position of leadership.

They can only do this because we have a useless government, when they tried it with the whites their president had to rush to the US to embarrass himself further.

drstranged:
I don't know why the Nigerian government cowardly allows this kind of shit from South Africa! Imagine these guys humiliating your citizens and even going as far as destroying their businesses and yet you allow South African companies remain in Nigeria and even extort Nigerians! That's why even the South African govt still spits in our faces because they know we have a stupid govt that will tolerate it. Can they do this to Americans under Donald Trump? The reason they disrespect us so much is because the Nigerian government doesn't value it's citizens and they know this well. Under Abacha this kind of nonsense would never have happened

A Government whose sole interest is to steal money cannot function properly. A lot will be destroyed in and out under such a Government.

ridwintin89:
Nigerians are liability to them.while their companies are asset to us.

Don't think Nigeria government is a fool,did you have a job for all MTN and DSTV staffs when government shut them down.

Please wise up,think deep.

Nigerians should learn how to travel legally,you cannot be a liability in someone land and expect them to be happy with you.

What do you mean Nigerians are liabilities to them? A lot of Nigerians legally own big and thriving businesses in South Africa which even employ and feed a lot of South Africans. Don't use the bad eggs there to generalise for every Nigerian living there. Even the South African companies here in Nigeria are defrauding Nigerians in their own ways. That's also fraud. So if we're looking at bad eggs it goes both ways. The Nigerian government is just disappointing. They can nationalize these countries since that's what the stupid South Africans want

mightyleks:
Are you comparing Nigeria with the US??

Yes, there's no big deal in that. Countries would start respecting us the moment our government takes the welfare of it's citizens seriously. That's why US citizens are respected internationally. Because countries know that the US government will be willing to go to war for a single citizen of theirs

Now, tell me the role of the so called "African Union" (AU) in the whole this quagmire?

It's a very painful and retrogressive experience to watch all you laboured for on a foreign land to be abandoned on the same land over what you're not guilty of...

Dry bone shall surely rise again!

Watch as this dumb govt swallow the insult without doing anything.

drstranged:
What do you mean Nigerians are liabilities to them? A lot of Nigerians legally own big and thriving businesses in South Africa which even employ and feed a lot of South Africans. Don't use the bad eggs there to generalise for every Nigerian living there. Even the South African companies here in Nigeria are defrauding Nigerians in their own ways. That's also fraud. So if we're looking at bad eggs it goes both ways. The Nigerian government is just disappointing. They can nationalize these countries since that's what the stupid South Africans want

Nigerians owning business not company.

The reason for xenophobia was that the little business their less privilege people should be doing had been taken over by hungry foreigner.

Nigerians should own a company not petty business.

43Ronin:
No supply without demand. I lived in nigeria most of my life and I never saw cocaine or any hard-drugs like fentanyl or crack except for weed & other of its variants. There are also tens of millions of nigerians that havent seen or done hard-drugs except for weed.

^^^
This is dangerous.

First of all, 'weed and its other variants' are not harmless. It's called a gateway drug for a reason.

Second, there are people who use crack cocaine, heroin, crystal methamphetamines, rephnol, etc. in this country. Remember the mpuru miri explosion of a couple of years ago? There are markets for these drugs in major cities in this country - NDLEA has been warning for years that Nigeria risks a full blown drug explosion very soon if the drug trade isn't sucessfully contained.

This country is slowly making the transition from being a transit hub for moving these narcotics - to a production hub and - then finally, a consumer hub. When that happens we will all understand what hell really is.

Pacesetter123:
I don't blame the silly South African government for this insult on the whole Nigeria state.
I blame our weak government.
Who would have given Cyril Ramaphosa's regime this kind of insulting mouth during Abacha,Obj, Muritala or Buhari-Idiaogbon government?
Who born small Ch..I..cken Ramaphosa to try this no.n..se.nse during those men time?
Even big British government collect am wotowoto from Naija for something that wasn't as terrible as what Xenophobic Republic is doing now.
When they seized our plane with the crew members for Umaru Dikko saga in London, Buhari seized a whole British Airways in Lagos airport as a retaliation.
Paul Biya try that non..sense with Naija citizens in Bakassi Peninsula, Abacha became annoy and not even European super power like France was able to deliver Cameroun from Abacha's hand.
Before Biya could blink an eye, Naija military almost wiped out every living thing in Camerounian controlled territory.
Those were the men that made Nigeria to command great respect from the rest of the world.
Not this weakling we have now in position of leadership.

^^^
While your ire is understandable, Nigeria was never the big time player you think she was.

Buhari was in bed with the same UK whom you think he taught a retaliatory lesson in the 80s. Bakassi has been under Camerounian control for decades and will remain so, Abacha's theatrics notwithstanding. In the end, Cameroun solidified its control through legal means and Nigeria was left with nothing (as usual).

Fujiyama:
^^^
This is dangerous.

First of all, 'weed and its other variants' are not harmless. It's called a gateway drug for a reason.

Second, there are people who use crack cocaine, heroin, crystal methamphetamines, rephnol, etc. in this country. Remember the mpuru miri explosion of a couple of years ago? There are markets for these drugs in major cities in this country - NDLEA has been warning for years that Nigeria risks a full blown drug explosion very soon if the drug trade isn't sucessfully contained.

This country is slowly making the transition from being a transit hub for moving these narcotics - to a production hub and - then finally, a consumer hub. When that happens we will all understand what hell really is.

This is one of the greatest dangers we are not fully addressing or refusing to acknowledge.

As you rightly said, Nigeria is now emerging as a major drug market.

All those opiates imported from India and now cannabis strains from Canada alongside synthetic cannabis (kolos) are now being made here alongside Meth.

For the Mexican cartel to now set up shop in Nigeria by having clandestine labs deep in forests and jungles shows there's a massive demand for these drugs.

There's also the terrorism and criminal demand for these drugs like meth which are used by bandits and terrorists when carrying out their missions.

That's why the sentencing laws for importing or manufacturing class A drugs like Meth are now life sentence .

We have a very serious problem as you rightly said with cannabis being the gateway drug to other more dangerous and highly addictive substances .

No sane person will try crack cocaine or meth for the first time. They usually graduate to it after abusing cannabis and need something stronger.

If I tell you I have a solution to this growing drug menace which I see everywhere around me , I will be lying to you.

But the first step is to go after the dealers and importers and make their life hell on earth to serve as an example.

I have seen too many young people wasting their lives away on drugs and some will never ever get off it only by the special grace of God.

Crack cocaine is also very big menace. If you see how that drug will bring someone down below the level of a mad man you will weep .

Drugs are scary and those who deal in it as a business are pure evil.

damoobaba:
Your people stirred the hornet's nest by installing a king in another man's land. Same fate will befall you in Lagos.

Stupidd talk by a kid, you guys are too tribalistic, do you have anything in Lagos? You can't do anything to one of the biggest stakeholders in Lagos or any Nigerian as the city belong to all.

Fujiyama:
^^^
While your ire is understandable, Nigeria was never the big time player you think she was.

Buhari was in bed with the same UK whom you think he taught a retaliatory lesson in the 80s. Bakassi has been under Camerounian control for decades and will remain so, Abacha's theatrics notwithstanding. In the end, Cameroun solidified its control through legal means and Nigeria was left with nothing (as usual).

As for Buhari being in the bed with UK then,I can't argue with you because I don't have full information about that.But my point remains that he grew some balls by taking a retaliatory action against them.Something none of our presidents in recent time can do.

Then on the matter of Bakassi still being under the control of the Camerounian government till now,it still boils that to what I mentioned before.....weak government.And that was only possible bcuz Abacha was no longer on earth.Otherwise,the territory would have still been under the control of Nigeria.Why didn't the kangaroo court in the Hague try that nonsense during his regime?
They couldn't because even Camerounian was even afraid of approaching the court while he was still alive.

Also,you called Abacha's intervention in the Bakassi issue theatrics?That means you don't even know what went on there.You don't know a bit of what he did to the Cameroun and France, their master.
Though I was a primary school pupil then,I saw things with my 2 goro goro eye.
I am not talking about what you read in the news papers,I'm talking as an eye witness account there.
Go and ask, Nigeria was respected or should I say feared during his time by the international community.
I repeat, Cyril Ramaphosa wouldn't have tried this nonsense with Nigeria citizens during his time.Fear wouldn't have allowed him.

Osgilliat:
Hmm. Nigerian in the mud just because some bad ones among us won’t stop drug trafficking. It is well.

oga u folks are part of the negative image of the country abroad. Because u somehow believe u are attacking some other sections of the country u even support foreigners to attack your country. Many Asian countries are into drugs more than Nigeria let the southy government start attacking their citizens if them nor see shege.

Pacesetter123:
Then on the matter of Bakassi still being under the control of the Camerounian government till now,it still boils that to what I mentioned before.....weak government.And that was only possible bcuz Abacha was no longer on earth.Otherwise,the territory would have still been under the control of Nigeria.Why didn't the kangaroo court in the Hague try that nonsense during his regime?
They couldn't because even Camerounian was even afraid of approaching the court while he was still alive.

^^^


Ok.

It is easy to say these things now.

Buhari was also venerated as a no-nonsense military hard man - in the same manner you describe Sani Abacha. Buhari promised to deal with the Boko Haram problem and rout them within months of getting into office - and people believed him because he was a retired soldier. How did it turn out?

Abacha died before he could be put to the test with all these things you mention. That's the only reason he can be seen as a tough guy today by those who don't know how the system actually works.

Nigeria had a strong case for the Bakassi territory but in the usual Nigerian manner, we threw it all away. Nobody but Nigeria can be blamed for that - but that's a whole separate story on its own.

Pacesetter123:
Also,you called Abacha's intervention in the Bakassi issue theatrics?That means you don't even know what went on there.You don't know a bit of what he did to the Cameroun and France, their master.
Though I was a primary school pupil then,I saw things with my 2 goro goro eye.
I am not talking about what you read in the news papers,I'm talking as an eye witness account there.

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Ok.

It would be good to tell exactly what your young "2 goro goro eye" saw. I am waiting.

You are not the only one who believes that Abacha would have held on to Bakassi if he were alive. But for how long? If the matter had escalated, what were his options? Was he ready to remain in it for the long haul - without a humiliating retreat in the end?

Was he fully ready if the matter had deteriorated into open armed conflict - and he had to order Nigerian soldiers to go to war? This question is very relevant given how those same soldiers cannot fully contain Boko Haram today. How would they have fared against a Camerounian army fully supported by French interests?

Pacesetter123:
Go and ask, Nigeria was respected or should I say feared during his time by the international community.
I repeat, Cyril Ramaphosa wouldn't have tried this nonsense with Nigeria citizens during his time.Fear wouldn't have allowed him.

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Ok.

Bluster is free and easy. It costs nothing.

Like I have said on here several times - this our unfortunate Boko Haram problem has punctured so many myths about Nigerian military capabilities. After the civil war, there was no test of those capabilities on Nigerian soil for several decades. A few peace keeping missions and interventions here and there simply don't count.

Those military capabilities have now been tested on Nigerian soil by assorted Jihadi groups for over a decade - and the results are clear.

Fujiyama:
^^^


Ok.

It is easy to say these things now.

Buhari was also venerated as a no-nonsense military hard man - in the same manner you describe Sani Abacha. Buhari promised to deal with the Boko Haram problem and rout them within months of getting into office - and people believed him because he was a retired soldier. How did it turn out?

Abacha died before he could be put to the test with all these things you mention. That's the only reason he can be seen as a tough guy today by those who don't know how the system actually works.

Nigeria had a strong case for the Bakassi territory but in the usual Nigerian manner, we threw it all away. Nobody but Nigeria can be blamed for that - but that's a whole separate story on its own.




^^^


Ok.

It would be good to tell exactly what your young "2 goro goro eye" saw. I am waiting.

You are not the only one who believes that Abacha would have held on to Bakassi if he were alive. But for how long? If the matter had escalated, what were his options? Was he ready to remain in it for the long haul - without a humiliating retreat in the end?

Was he fully ready if the matter had deteriorated into open armed conflict - and he had to order Nigerian soldiers to go to war? This question is very relevant given how those same soldiers cannot fully contain Boko Haram today. How would they have fared against a Camerounian army fully supported by French interests?



^^^


Ok.

Bluster is free and easy. It costs nothing.

Like I have said on here several times - this our unfortunate Boko Haram problem has punctured so many myths about Nigerian military capabilities. After the civil war, there was no test of those capabilities on Nigerian soil for several decades. A few peace keeping missions and interventions here and there simply don't count.

Those military capabilities have now been tested on Nigerian soil by assorted Jihadi groups for over a decade - and the results are clear.

My brother you have a point there that if he was still alive and maybe has opportunity to rule Nigeria again as a civilian,he may not had been as tough as he was during his military era just like Buhari turned out to be.
But the good thing is that he left the stage when the ovation was still loud howbeit through unforeseen circumstances.
So we measured his toughness and his ability to protect the territorial integrity of Nigeria and her citizens to the extent of his last day of military rule only and not what he would have done if he had transitioned to the civil rule since he never lived to be a civilian president for us to see.
So,we still hold him in high esteem in my place as regards what he did for us in terms of security.Though weak and fear fear OBJ and Donald Duke later rubbished Abacha's hard and good work by freely handing over the oil reach peninsula for no public reason.

Then as for what his exit routes were if the was a full blown out war?It was a full blown out war already nah.
So,I want to answer you convincingly that his only planned exit routes was TOTAL VICTORY against the OCCUPIER.
BUT not for his untimely de@th, Nigeria military would have reclaimed beyond Bakassi up to Ubenekang,Ekondo and Idombi deep inside southern Cameroun within a year to act as a buffer zone.
When that full fledge war broke out,for your information,it didn't take Nigeria up to a year to capture all the villages in Bakassi ranging from the L.G hqtrs in Abana to Diamond,Okopedi,Ekeya,Ibekwe,etc that were already under the control of Cameroun despite the French military supports to them.And it was only one Division of the the Army that was deployed which was 13 Amphibious Brigade of Calabar.
So don't underated Nigeria army capabilities.

Finally,are you serious you believe that the lingering Boko Haram insurgency has demystified Nigeria military capability?
Wow! My guy no be so..ooh!
Don't allow anybody to deceive you, right from Buhari time till date, nobody is fighting any Boko Haram anything and in anywhere in Nigeria.
All what you see is political.No war against any insurgency anywhere.
If Nigeria government really wants to fight Boko Haram,they cannot withstand Nigeria military for just 3 months.
In fact,they wouldn't have even used military, Police Mobile Force alone can wipe out the ragtag Boko Haram terrorists in just 6 months.How many days did it take Buhari as just a GOC to wipe out Cameroun military invaders and stopped their incursion in the Northern boarders in the early 80s?
He wasn't even the Head of State then..oo,a GOC in Maidugri.When he noticed President Shagari was doing semesme with the life of the citizens in the hands of foreign invaders,he moved in without waiting for approval from the presidency and almost enter inside the enemies territory in matter of days.
Abi you never hear am?
Then wetin come be Boko Haram?
Our leaders are just playing politics with it otherwise it will be PMF that will finish the job in few months.