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Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by WorkTheTalk(op): 2:17pm On Jul 06

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogZ8BYg-kM

The South African government has failed its citizens. Many of the citizens no more have trust in the government, and are now taking laws into their hands. Immigrants, legal or illegal, have become the scapegoats.

Dudula is one of South Africa's most notorious anti-migrant groups whose members say they are standing up for ordinary South Africans let down by their government. The vigilante groups blame illegal migrants for South Africa's struggling economy, lack of housing, and rising drug abuse.

The uncomfortable parallel:

For the Nigerian audience, it should not just be "look how South Africans treat our people" — it is the mirror it holds up. When a state fails to deliver jobs, housing, security, and basic services, citizens do not always direct their anger upward at the institutions responsible. Often it is easier, and more immediately satisfying, to direct it sideways — at the neighbor, fellow citizens, the migrants, and people that cannot easily fight back.

Nigeria has its own history of this dynamic, just aimed differently: ethnic and religious scapegoating, "indigene vs. settler" tensions, "genocide", terrorism, banditry, violence attacks of its own within its borders.

That does not make the xenophobic attacks happening in South Africa acceptable — it makes it explicable, which is different. Migrants, documented or not, do not set housing policy, do not run the economy, and did not create unemployment. They are a visible, relatively powerless target in a country where the real grievances are with institutions too large and too entrenched to confront directly.

Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by WorkTheTalk(op):
The xenophobic attacks in South Africa, and the banditry attacks in Nigeria are clear cases of governance failures resulting in citizens taking laws into their hands.

dettolgel:
Taking laws into their hands without holding the responsible government accountable? Dey play grin
Have you been able to hold the Nigerian government accountable for the corruption and bad policies that lead to economic woes, insecurity, kidnappings and killings? Did you condemn the killings of the EndSars protesters who dared to stand up against the corrupt federal government institution?

They way things are going in South Africa, they citizens would finally revolt against the government. It's a matter of time.

What we are going through here in Nigeria are worst than what other Nigerians are going through in South Africa. That is the reason many of them don't want to come back.
Hopefully, Nigerians would leave tribalism and religion aside, and demand accountability from the government.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Kushites: 6:24pm On Jul 06
WorkTheTalk:
Xenophobic attack is a clear case of governance failure resulting in citizens taking laws into their hands.
Nlfpmod
So long as the white minority are allowed to own all that land and wealth in South Africa, forget about lifting up the black majority in a substantial way.

South Africa is still colonised, so I don't know what "governance failure" you're referring to.

If the govt decides to redistribute the wealth and land ownership, they'll get the Zimbabwe treatment from their western "partners". HEAVY ECONOMIC SANCTIONS that would ruin their economy.

So they are still colonised.

Only the eventual decline or collapse of western powers as a whole will lead to African emancipation.

The universe will make it happen.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Gotocourt: 7:22pm On Jul 06
Lots of Investors will leave
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Amovingman: 7:22pm On Jul 06
Where irongalaxy and randigital self
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by DeltaBachelor(m): 7:22pm On Jul 06
Hmmmm . South Africans will never learn ! Just like Nigerians . Madiba would be rolling in his grave due to these occurrences. So shameful !


Fought Apartheid, only to later succumb to Xenophobia. Just like a War veteran who has gone on so many missions for donkey years, only to d*e from a very minor illness.


Chai !
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by mykelsmile(m): 7:24pm On Jul 06
There is till apartheid in South africa but they choose there follow brothers for aggressive attacks so crazy South africa is no man's land believe bro
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by free2ryhme: 7:25pm On Jul 06
WorkTheTalk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogZ8BYg-kM

The South African government has failed its citizens. Many of the citizens no more have trust in the government, and are now taking laws into their hands. Immigrants, legal or illegal, have become the scapegoats.

Dudula is one of South Africa's most notorious anti-migrant groups whose members say they are standing up for ordinary South Africans let down by their government. The vigilante groups blame illegal migrants for South Africa's struggling economy, lack of housing, and rising drug abuse.

The uncomfortable parallel:

For the Nigerian audience, it should not just be "look how South Africans treat our people" — it is the mirror it holds up. When a state fails to deliver jobs, housing, security, and basic services, citizens do not always direct their anger upward at the institutions responsible. Often it is easier, and more immediately satisfying, to direct it sideways — at the neighbor, fellow citizens, the migrants, and people that cannot easily fight back.

Nigeria has its own history of this dynamic, just aimed differently: ethnic and religious scapegoating, "indigene vs. settler" tensions, "genocide", terrorism, banditry, violence attacks of its own within its borders.

That does not make the xenophobic attacks happening in South Africa acceptable — it makes it explicable, which is different. Migrants, documented or not, do not set housing policy, do not run the economy, and did not create unemployment. They are a visible, relatively powerless target in a country where the real grievances are with institutions too large and too entrenched to confront directly.
what you've witnessed is the life of a typical black man
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by LordLicifer(m): 7:26pm On Jul 06
Maybe we should copy south africans and hold our corrupt govament to account at least south africans has the balls to querry their govament.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by shollyBi(m): 7:27pm On Jul 06
Is their work. Stupid fellows creating a bad image for their country globally. Well, South Africa was never free
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Hemanwel(m): 7:30pm On Jul 06
The reason black South Africans have embarked on this xenophobic exercise is simple: they are jealous of how other black Africans have become immensely successful on SA soil while they (the citizens) haven't gotten a life.

The land of SA has favoured the foreigners more than the citizens, so the thing they pain them gan!
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by soccerlite: 7:30pm On Jul 06
From the commentary,

That means they will soon start attacking themselves
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by soccerlite: 7:32pm On Jul 06
LordLicifer:
Maybe we should copy south africans and hold our corrupt govament to account at least south africans has the balls to querry their govament.
South African aren't holding their leaders accountable

They are just passing the buck

They've blamed whites
They're blamed immigrants

Now they will start attacking themselves
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by drips8(m): 7:33pm On Jul 06
Immigrants are blamed because they are easy pickings.

They won't attack the owners of big businesses as many of them depend on them for work.

So any anger will be taken out on the small scale trader foreigner.

That's it!
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by PheelzAlmighty: 7:34pm On Jul 06
Normally south Africa no suppose to murmur where naija dey..

Na condition make crayfish bend...
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Christlike01: 7:34pm On Jul 06
Amovingman:
Where irongalaxy and randigital self
They have gone "bek to deir kantry" because foreigners are "taking deir jabs".
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by MANNABBQGRILLS: 7:35pm On Jul 06
The way forward lies in the independent political mobilisation of South African and migrant workers alike against the capitalist system,
The state apparatus of repression and every party that defends them.
Only a socialist and internationalist movement, uniting workers across national, racial and ethnic lines in a common struggle for decent jobs, housing,
healthcare and social equality, can put an end to the cycle of xenophobic violence once and for all

Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by hatchy: 7:36pm On Jul 06
LordLicifer:
Maybe we should copy south africans and hold our corrupt govament to account at least south africans has the balls to querry their govament.
It can't happen here, not at all.
See ordinary presidential election where a man who have good intentions to lift the country out of poverty they turned it to tribal fight...Ibo will never be president.

Nigeria is doomed.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by LordLicifer(m): 7:36pm On Jul 06
soccerlite:
South African aren't holding their leaders accountable

They are just passing the buck

They've blamed whites
They're blamed immigrants

Now they will start attacking themselves
Well... Maybe we should leave them to get on with it and concentrate on our own corrupt looters who call themselves politicians
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by spiSeyi: 7:39pm On Jul 06
SA is already becoming a failed state and this is one the reasons why even a footballer like Nwabali has to leave the way he left, you will hardly see an ordinary SA that can afford 10k Rands whereas here in Nigeria that is believed to be a poor nation you will see hundreds of young guys with x2 of such an amount of money to ball. They will face the reality just like Nigeria is facing hers because investors will leave in numbers and will be reluctant to invest because their be only few people to afford whatever they are producing. Most black South Africans can't even afford to feed themselves, tourism one of their major sources of revenue will reduce drastically.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by sulaak(m): 7:43pm On Jul 06
Kushites:
So long as the white minority are allowed to own all that land and wealth in South Africa, forget about lifting up the black majority in a substantial way.

South Africa is still colonised, so I don't know what "governance failure" you're referring to.

If the govt decides to redistribute the wealth and land ownership, they'll get the Zimbabwe treatment from their western "partners". HEAVY ECONOMIC SANCTIONS that would ruin their economy.

So they are still colonised.

Only the eventual decline or collapse of western powers as a whole will lead to African emancipation.

The universe will make it happen.
Well said SA and Namibia cannot change the social and economic injustice to their people without facing Western economic sanctions hence the reason why they have decided to tolerate the attack on African immigrants. After the Africans have been kicked out, what next?
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Angelfrost(m): 7:45pm On Jul 06
Amovingman:
Where irongalaxy and randigital self
They are busy... There are shops and businesses to loot or take over. tongue
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by IronGalaxy: 7:54pm On Jul 06
Angelfrost:
They are busy... There are shops and businesses to loot or take over. tongue
I'm busy playing my PlayStation without a generator..you wont relate..
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by edogu(m): 7:56pm On Jul 06
A friend of mine used to operate a viewing centre where people come together to watch football. Out of envy, the landlord increased the rent of that place just to frustrate him. He eventually left the place for him to another place. Till date that place has continued to remain empty. No more money for the landlord as that place wa an empty land.

The above analogy is exactly what's happening in South Africa. Out of envy, immigrants have been asked to go home. They are not the government that is charged with the responsibility of providing basic amenities. Rather they contribute to the economy by paying taxes to the government, engage some of these South Africans. The transport sector is active as you need these people. Now that some of them have gone home, no more revenue to generate from them. The South Africans don't have the requisite skills to operate those businesses or be engaged by the White men.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by LordLicifer(m):
hatchy:
It can't happen here, not at all.
See ordinary presidential election where a man who have good intentions to lift the country out of poverty they turned it to tribal fight...Ibo will never be president.

Nigeria is doomed.
Correct, our tribalisms it too much and will not let us even you have proven it by your own utterances in your comment, so let's just allow our corrupt looting govament carry on, some have also conffessed that they rather die of hunger and hardship visited upon them by the corrupt regime as long as.......ibo will never be president.. nice!
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by iichidodo: 8:02pm On Jul 06
We are witnessing the epic collapse of South Africa...that of Xenophobia and the resulting tribalism that will cause massive shift in the way individual tribes in South Africa see themselves and their neighbors as far as the wealth of the country is concerned. Some people will want a division of the country...
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by dettolgel: 8:03pm On Jul 06
WorkTheTalk:
Xenophobic attack is a clear case of governance failure resulting in citizens taking laws into their hands.
Taking laws into their hands without holding the responsible government accountable? Dey play grin
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Wizardslayer: 8:11pm On Jul 06
The government of south African's shortcomings on her citizens.

The citizens are now transferring their aggression on legal and illegal migrants. grin grin
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by writeprof(m): 8:15pm On Jul 06
They will pay the price in due season not for "helping" their government to drive 'illegal' African migrants BUT for the "hatred" they're sowing for their generation to follow. Stealing, killing and other evils.

Exodus 22:21-24 NLT
"You must not mistreat or oppress foreigners in any way. Remember, you yourselves were once foreigners in the land of Egypt.

[22] "You must not exploit a widow or an orphan.

[23] If you exploit them in any way and they cry out to me, then I will certainly hear their cry.

[24] My anger will blaze against you, and I will kill you with the sword. Then your wives will be widows and your children fatherless.

Leviticus 19:33 NLT
"Do not take advantage of foreigners who live among you in your land.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19 NLT
"For the LORD your God is the God of gods and Lord of lords. He is the great God, the mighty and awesome God, who shows no partiality and cannot be bribed.

[18] He ensures that orphans and widows receive justice. He shows love to the foreigners living among you and gives them food and clothing.

[19] So you, too, must show love to foreigners, for you yourselves were once foreigners in the land of Egypt.

IF they would think critically, they wouldn't be manipulated.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by ClassicMan202(m): 8:21pm On Jul 06
IronGalaxy:
I'm busy playing my PlayStation without a generator..you wont relate..
Exactly the point... After playing PlayStation all day you'll look for one successful foreigner to hate on for having more money than you
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Apcshit: 8:24pm On Jul 06
WorkTheTalk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogZ8BYg-kM

The South African government has failed its citizens. Many of the citizens no more have trust in the government, and are now taking laws into their hands. Immigrants, legal or illegal, have become the scapegoats.

Dudula is one of South Africa's most notorious anti-migrant groups whose members say they are standing up for ordinary South Africans let down by their government. The vigilante groups blame illegal migrants for South Africa's struggling economy, lack of housing, and rising drug abuse.

The uncomfortable parallel:

For the Nigerian audience, it should not just be "look how South Africans treat our people" — it is the mirror it holds up. When a state fails to deliver jobs, housing, security, and basic services, citizens do not always direct their anger upward at the institutions responsible. Often it is easier, and more immediately satisfying, to direct it sideways — at the neighbor, fellow citizens, the migrants, and people that cannot easily fight back.

Nigeria has its own history of this dynamic, just aimed differently: ethnic and religious scapegoating, "indigene vs. settler" tensions, "genocide", terrorism, banditry, violence attacks of its own within its borders.

That does not make the xenophobic attacks happening in South Africa acceptable — it makes it explicable, which is different. Migrants, documented or not, do not set housing policy, do not run the economy, and did not create unemployment. They are a visible, relatively powerless target in a country where the real grievances are with institutions too large and too entrenched to confront directly.
This is a useless documentary. XENOPHOBIC IS NOT A DISEASE
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by IronGalaxy: 8:24pm On Jul 06
ClassicMan202:
Exactly the point... After playing PlayStation all day you'll look for one successful foreigner to hate on for having more money than you
Lol.. funny how yall somehow think you're these "hotshot, rich entrepreneurs..its amusing to watch.
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